Product Codes for Commander Class Armada Optimus Prime and Titan Class Nemesis Uncovered + More

Dammit. I already have siege Magnus with dna upgrade but if that commander Magnus is good I'll have to get it!!! lol

I skipped 86 grimlock because I have MP but SG version would be cool if it's anything like the customs and digibashes I've seen. Probably gonna cost an arm and a leg though

Razorbeast88 wrote:Dammit. I already have siege Magnus with dna upgrade but if that commander Magnus is good I'll have to get it!!! lol

I skipped 86 grimlock because I have MP but SG version would be cool if it's anything like the customs and digibashes I've seen. Probably gonna cost an arm and a leg though

Commander Magnus? SG Grimlock? What?

william-james88 wrote:It's a Christmas miracle!!!!!!!! While we are very adamant about not checking desperately at Walgreens for transformers exclusives until they have been reported, we are happy to now report that Minerva was found there. Specifically at a California location. We knew this toy was in the US for a long while but Walgreens always puts up their toys later, with this year really pushing it far into the holiday season. But it's been found, that's what matters. So maybe checking your nearby Walgreens might not be a wasted trip anymore. The image of proof of purchase comes from Zombie F Body who posted their find on the TFW2005 board.

Here is a review of the toy if ever you want to see it more in depth.

Funny thing, I almost forgot I reviewed Minerva.

sol magnus wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Dammit. I already have siege Magnus with dna upgrade but if that commander Magnus is good I'll have to get it!!! lol

I skipped 86 grimlock because I have MP but SG version would be cool if it's anything like the customs and digibashes I've seen. Probably gonna cost an arm and a leg though

Commander Magnus? SG Grimlock? What?

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Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

I'm more interested in those collab and select listing like the $299.99 one. I know there's been rumours of the guardian robot coming from Siege Omega but could they be adding anything else?

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

Hasbro whiffed their opportunity to give the Ark the head of Auntie, which makes more sense than the Last Autobot if you've read the earliest UK comics, so maybe the sentient Nemesis will be--

Anti-Auntie?

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

If the bot mode actually have a feminine appearance and is not just a "her" for clout-points, I'll be all for it.

I'll be able to ship both ships together!

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

If the bot mode actually have a feminine appearance and is not just a "her" for clout-points, I'll be all for it.

I'll be able to ship both ships together!

It wouldnt be for Clout points, regardless, as Nemesis is a female name. And ships tend to be gendered female in English (more a cultural thing than a grammar thing).

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm more interested in those collab and select listing like the $299.99 one. I know there's been rumours of the guardian robot coming from Siege Omega but could they be adding anything else?

It's the guardian robot with nothing more, 299.99 is just how much standard titans cost in Canada now (just like how deluxes were 29.99 when they were 19.99 in the US)

Sabrblade wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Dammit. I already have siege Magnus with dna upgrade but if that commander Magnus is good I'll have to get it!!! lol

I skipped 86 grimlock because I have MP but SG version would be cool if it's anything like the customs and digibashes I've seen. Probably gonna cost an arm and a leg though

Commander Magnus? SG Grimlock? What?

Scroll up.

I was so busy reading the codes I didn't read william-james' explanation above that. Silly me.

More to the point, which Nemesis will the Titan be based on?

A Titan Nemesis would be interesting to see. Basing it on the ship in the tv show would be a challenge. That ship was a lot more spindly than the ark, with lots of tapered extensions and whatnot.

I think we have an idea what it's going to look like, based on the Nemesis showing up on Legacy Metroplex's box. I know it doesn't have to be that design, but it's a general idea.

A quick google later and it seems like the Beast Wars/Dreamwave Nemesis is the winner, potentially?



It will be interesting to see how/where the cross wings are integrated into the bot design.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

If the bot mode actually have a feminine appearance and is not just a "her" for clout-points, I'll be all for it.

I'll be able to ship both ships together!

It wouldnt be for Clout points, regardless, as Nemesis is a female name. And ships tend to be gendered female in English (more a cultural thing than a grammar thing).

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm more interested in those collab and select listing like the $299.99 one. I know there's been rumours of the guardian robot coming from Siege Omega but could they be adding anything else?

It's the guardian robot with nothing more, 299.99 is just how much standard titans cost in Canada now (just like how deluxes were 29.99 when they were 19.99 in the US)

Ah I thought that was US Dollars, missed the part about it being Canadian.

Have we had any rumours about forthcoming collabs?

I think the design between all versions of the Nemesis (except for the Aligned Continuity/Trypticon) are basically the same. If the toy comes out in 2023, and it looks basically like it does on any of the the box art for the last couple of years, whether people want to call it the original, or from BW, or from the comics, its all basically the same.

What I thought was interesting though was, in the few times the Nemesis & Ark have been seen together, they are *roughly* the same size, or at least in the ballpark, with the Nemesis probably being longer in some dimensions, but probably overall not more than 10-20% larger than The Ark.

For WFC specifically however, the Nemesis is HUUUUUGE!!!! (I only know this from purchasing the artbook from the series, since the ships never were on screen in the same frame with any sense of scale IIRC)

Obviously, the Titan for 2023, will probably be in scale with the others. However if it was made to have a slightly taller Robot Mode than The Ark, that would not be inaccurate.

If Hasbro makes the ship female, she's definitely got a lot of junk in the trunk.

Also, it appears there are at least 2 more selects coming besides the Omega Sentinel. They appear to be deluxes if my CAD prices are correct. All the Diaclone updates have been nice, but it would be nice to see something different as well. I dont see a Leader Selects on that List. So Cryotek from TM2 Megatron still isn't confirmed yet, unless its later revealed as a retailer exclusive.

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

If the bot mode actually have a feminine appearance and is not just a "her" for clout-points, I'll be all for it.

I'll be able to ship both ships together!

It wouldnt be for Clout points, regardless, as Nemesis is a female name. And ships tend to be gendered female in English (more a cultural thing than a grammar thing).

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm more interested in those collab and select listing like the $299.99 one. I know there's been rumours of the guardian robot coming from Siege Omega but could they be adding anything else?

It's the guardian robot with nothing more, 299.99 is just how much standard titans cost in Canada now (just like how deluxes were 29.99 when they were 19.99 in the US)

Ah I thought that was US Dollars, missed the part about it being Canadian.

Have we had any rumours about forthcoming collabs?

There is a "bear" crossover TF and those collab prices could simply be the streetfighter sets which have yet to be released in Canada.

o.supreme wrote:I think the design between all versions of the Nemesis (except for the Aligned Continuity/Trypticon) are basically the same.

Oh, and, here's Animated's Nemesis, just to round off the ones with the traditional look:

SS Commander intrigues me.

While I can understand it being SS-86 Magnus, part of me wonders if Hasbro isn't doing an actual SS-86 Prime in Commander Class.

By all accounts Earthrise Prime is pretty much SS-86 Prime, but one can argue the same thing about Kingdom Magnus.

The Commander Class is puzzling, as they have proven they can make a Magnus in Leader Class, and it still works fine. Not sure I can find any valid reason for it being Commander Class. However as has been pointed out, there's no other character in the 1986 movie that would technically fit the price class.

If this were a new G1 Prime mold that is both larger and more detailed, that could be used as a Magnus inner robot, it might make a bit more sense. Maybe Magnus is the pretool to a brand new Prime.


I just don't see them doing another Magnus this soon and not a Prime too.

Of course there's always the possibility it's just Kingdom Magnus with a bunch of accessories to make up the price difference.

The collabs there are also interesting. 2 through 6, which implies 1 is already released in Canada?

Also, what is an "Animatronic Changer" for Rise of the Beasts?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'll take Astrotrain as a doghouse-sized shuttle that can fit CW Devastator

Another Ultra Magnus is not exciting. I really like the character and his design but wow, it's too much lately.

Overcracker wrote:SS Commander intrigues me.

While I can understand it being SS-86 Magnus, part of me wonders if Hasbro isn't doing an actual SS-86 Prime in Commander Class.

By all accounts Earthrise Prime is pretty much SS-86 Prime, but one can argue the same thing about Kingdom Magnus.

The Commander Class is puzzling, as they have proven they can make a Magnus in Leader Class, and it still works fine. Not sure I can find any valid reason for it being Commander Class. However as has been pointed out, there's no other character in the 1986 movie that would technically fit the price class.

If this were a new G1 Prime mold that is both larger and more detailed, that could be used as a Magnus inner robot, it might make a bit more sense. Maybe Magnus is the pretool to a brand new Prime.


I just don't see them doing another Magnus this soon and not a Prime too.

Of course there's always the possibility it's just Kingdom Magnus with a bunch of accessories to make up the price difference.

The collabs there are also interesting. 2 through 6, which implies 1 is already released in Canada?

Also, what is an "Animatronic Changer" for Rise of the Beasts?

Unless it's a magnus with a g1 accurate trailer

Commander class will just be animated prowl with his side car or maybe they are going more in scale for the G1 dinobots

If it were Titan class I may have joked it was a transforming autobot city playset

Also I wouldn't expect a white prime from ss86 ultra magnus, as pointed out, there wasn't one in the toon

Sabrblade wrote:bunch of pics

Well that first one is Planet Nemesis from BWII (not a ship, not even the same thing). We've already covered Trypticon in the Aligned continuity, and the rest of those I have no idea what they are, so it doesn't really matter.

The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:



Or some slight variation thereof, and that is likely what the toy will look like in Ship Mode, according to Box Art from the past few Generations toy lines.

That makes one Magnus release ever years for the last several, so yeah that's overkill. Granted they have all been from different sources but still, and this one is SS86 which means it's just Kingdom in essence. A new trailer isn't enough to justify another $50+ to buy another version.

I wouldn't mind a better more improved Astrotrain, I just don't know that they can ever truly deliver it being that he's a triplechanger. I mean look at Blitzwing, and I like it for the most part.

I think I'm entering a phase where I'll likely dip out of this line as I'm not interested in ROTB and so far nothing seems to be coming that interests me. Between the Cosmos issue and Hound not turning out like I wanted those two long sought after updates are a wash.

Those prices did have me for a minute before seeing it was CAD, I'm like $35 for DLX I'm out! lol

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:bunch of pics

Well that first one is Planet Nemesis from BWII (not a ship, not even the same thing).

It's an artificial planet. It flies through space on a plotted course controlled by living operators. It may have a rocky exterior, but inside are rooms and corridors with floors, walls, and ceilings made of metal. There's even an engine room. It's a vessel.

o.supreme wrote:We've already covered Trypticon in the Aligned continuity, and the rest of those I have no idea what they are, so it doesn't really matter.

Movie Nemesis, ROTF Nemesis, Titans Return Nemesis, and Cyberverse Nemesis.

Armada Prime is coming!
With Starscream out and and a rumored Megatron in the future, I'm hyped!

Day 1088 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

o.supreme wrote:
The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:

But when you ask hasbro.... it's just the guns that come with WFC galvatron

blackeyedprime wrote:

o.supreme wrote:
The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:

But when you ask hasbro.... it's just the guns that come with WFC galvatron

Did Hasbro ever call them the Nemesis?

I have been thinking and since it's SS86, Magnus could be a White Prime version of the ER OP mold as the base with some changes, sporting a Matrix Chamber and a trailer closed to the cartoon and original toy with more parts to cover the cab and opening and closing hands so eh can hold the Matrix. Another thing they could do is have it where he can disassemble as a nod to being blown apart in the movie.

But that's still not enough to get me. I got two already.

At this point, SS86 Springer is a given. They'll just tidy up the Siege toy, probably give him a better sword as well. Would be nice if they included a tool-in wrist laser cannon.

I'm looking forward to Armada Optimus, and I may also get the Nemesis as well to go alongside my Ark. I'm guessing the "BB SS Deluxe" listings are the Hound and Hatchet we saw a while ago, if indeed they're still coming out, or perhaps Hound is part of the "BB SS TF-86 2 Pack", maybe with a Sunstreaker repaint? While it's nice that Studio Series is getting the Commander Class, I'm happy with my Kingdom Ultra Magnus and have no desire for another one.

ZeroWolf wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:

o.supreme wrote:
The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:

But when you ask hasbro.... it's just the guns that come with WFC galvatron

Did Hasbro ever call them the Nemesis?

Probably not considering they’re actually based on Galvatron’s ship the Revenge, not the Nemesis.

blackeyedprime wrote:

o.supreme wrote:
The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:

But when you ask hasbro.... it's just the guns that come with WFC galvatron

Those were molded to resemble The Revenge however, not The Nemesis

that makes more sense thanks.

Buster Claus wrote:I have been thinking and since it's SS86, Magnus could be a White Prime version of the ER OP mold as the base with some changes, sporting a Matrix Chamber and a trailer closed to the cartoon and original toy with more parts to cover the cab and opening and closing hands so eh can hold the Matrix. Another thing they could do is have it where he can disassemble as a nod to being blown apart in the movie.

But that's still not enough to get me. I got two already.

At this point, SS86 Springer is a given. They'll just tidy up the Siege toy, probably give him a better sword as well. Would be nice if they included a tool-in wrist laser cannon.

Doubtful for the animation accurate line to go the white Prime route

The chance of me not getting Commander Class Ultra Magnus is zero. Even if I think they're going back to the well a bit too much.

Wait, I just realized, why are we talking about a Studio Series figure in the Legacy thread?

sol magnus wrote:

Even more sold on this guy now. Definitely getting 2 of this mold, just not sure if I want skyquake and dreadwing or dreadwing and one of the other inevitable uses of the mold. Looks awesome though

For those of you wondering "Why has my local Target not recieved any Wave 2 Deluxe" ? well...

They could have been inept like the employees at my local store, and only had 1 peg dedicated to Legacy deluxe (which had only 4 Elita-1 for nearly a month), and instead of moving pegs to get more product out, which is normal, they just sat on product until the few they had out moved or...

UNTIL... Probably ordered from higher up...Now that there are sales, they are forced to put out everything they've been sitting on. See the pic my daughter just took below. If you are still waiting for wave 2 to arrive in your area, it might be worth checking now.

I'm very down for a Titan class Nemesis to fight the Ark. But wasn't the head revealed a while ago?

https://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/upl ... Art-01.jpg

I'm excited for the collabs. I love those. I hope it's not the Street Fighter ones. I just ordered some off ebay.

86 Ultra Magus ... I'm really starting to hate that I bought any version of the Kingdom mold now. They have to do these characters right the first the. Not the second or the third time!

Sabrblade wrote:Wait, I just realized, why are we talking about a Studio Series figure in the Legacy thread?

All the listings are in this thread.

TulioDude wrote:Armada Prime is coming!
With Starscream out and and a rumored Megatron in the future, I'm hyped!

Day 1088 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

I was wondering what your reaction would be

I'm thrilled with that in particular as well. It would be awesome to have an Armada super mode prime with.....





...knee joints! (GASP!)

First-Aid wrote:I'm thrilled with that in particular as well. It would be awesome to have an Armada super mode prime with.....





...knee joints! (GASP!)

Now now, let's not get ahead of ourselves here

Usually Emgo is good for pointing out odd design choices on toys. He totaly missed "Space Rabbit" on Tarn

o.supreme wrote:Also, it appears there are at least 2 more selects coming besides the Omega Sentinel. They appear to be deluxes if my CAD prices are correct. All the Diaclone updates have been nice, but it would be nice to see something different as well.

These two, perhaps?

Those arent Deluxe sized

ZeroWolf wrote:Those arent Deluxe sized

True. But are they just being pragmatic in making them Deluxe? Two very obscure redecos/minor retools might not sell for Titan Class pricing. How many would buy a Spreem that big?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Those arent Deluxe sized

True. But are they just being pragmatic in making them Deluxe? Two very obscure redecos/minor retools might not sell for Titan Class pricing. How many would buy a Spreem that big?

The Omega Sentinel that o.supreme was referring to is a blue-and-white Guardian Robot-colored redeco of Titan class Omega Supreme, so that's already covered.