Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire
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Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user Sabrblade has pointed us in the direction of twitter user @UNOYUKIN07153 who has tweeted what looks like excerpts from an upcoming issue of Figure King Magazine (Same source as these Rodimus Prime images and the red redco of Masterpiece Skids).
The last news to come out of these shared magazine scans is a small bit of text, that hints that, not only is Masterpiece Raiden still coming out, but that there's also a possible MP Skyfire to join the Masterpiece ranks. There's a mention of Unite Warrior size but it's unclear who it's referring to and if it's talking about the five member unite Warrior teams like Superion, or UW Devastator.
While Takara have given no official confirmation to a MP Skyfire, it could be am indication of big things to come for the Masterpiece line.
What do you think of this news? Will you be all in on an MP Skyfire?
Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
The last news to come out of these shared magazine scans is a small bit of text, that hints that, not only is Masterpiece Raiden still coming out, but that there's also a possible MP Skyfire to join the Masterpiece ranks. There's a mention of Unite Warrior size but it's unclear who it's referring to and if it's talking about the five member unite Warrior teams like Superion, or UW Devastator.
While Takara have given no official confirmation to a MP Skyfire, it could be am indication of big things to come for the Masterpiece line.
What do you think of this news? Will you be all in on an MP Skyfire?
Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Credit(s): @UNOYUKIN07153 on Twitter
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099313)
Posted by o.supreme on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:31pm CDT
Raiden by far is my most wanted combiner. I would have preferred it to be a Generation Selects. However I figure it is a win-win for me.
If Raiden is 18 inches, then he will be the perfect rival for PotP Predaking. If he is smaller in scale with the other combiners, that works also considering in my collection Evil Combiners currently outnumber the Heroic ones 17-15.
I know the term "mini masterpiece" is going around a lot with respects to some of the current SS86, and WFC toys. However I would think that even an 18 inch Raiden would be too small to be considered Masterpiece? Unless it is because of the sheer amount of engineering that is involved. At any rate it would be perfect for me. If it was any larger however, it wouldn't work.
If Raiden is 18 inches, then he will be the perfect rival for PotP Predaking. If he is smaller in scale with the other combiners, that works also considering in my collection Evil Combiners currently outnumber the Heroic ones 17-15.
I know the term "mini masterpiece" is going around a lot with respects to some of the current SS86, and WFC toys. However I would think that even an 18 inch Raiden would be too small to be considered Masterpiece? Unless it is because of the sheer amount of engineering that is involved. At any rate it would be perfect for me. If it was any larger however, it wouldn't work.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099316)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:32pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:32pm CDT
I really, really hope Skyfire is as solid and fun as MP Starsaber.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099319)
Posted by Mindmaster on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:37pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:37pm CDT
A Masterpiece Skyfire/Jetfire would be neat but I’m perfectly happy with my Siege guy fulfilling that role. Nice to see Raiden is still in the works (unlike Armada Prime, sadly 
). I’m curious what they mean by Unite Warriors size though.
). I’m curious what they mean by Unite Warriors size though.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099320)
Posted by o.supreme on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:43pm CDT
UW (and thus CW) Devastator is 18 inches (according to TT 45 CM). This also applies to PotP Predaking
However all other UW Combiners, (and by extension CW, PotP, Selects etc...) are *roughly* 12 inches.
As I stated above, either one works for me. An official TT/Hasbro MP Combiner has yet to be released, but many 3P ones scale a bit larger in the 20-22 inch range, so not sure how hardcore MP fans will feel. But I'm encouraged by this news.
Posted by o.supreme on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:43pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:I’m curious what they mean by Unite Warriors size though.
UW (and thus CW) Devastator is 18 inches (according to TT 45 CM). This also applies to PotP Predaking
However all other UW Combiners, (and by extension CW, PotP, Selects etc...) are *roughly* 12 inches.
As I stated above, either one works for me. An official TT/Hasbro MP Combiner has yet to be released, but many 3P ones scale a bit larger in the 20-22 inch range, so not sure how hardcore MP fans will feel. But I'm encouraged by this news.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099321)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:44pm CDT
Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Devastator Gallery
I'm fairly certain Devastator size to make room for all the engineering.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:44pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:A Masterpiece Skyfire/Jetfire would be neat but I’m perfectly happy with my Siege guy fulfilling that role. Nice to see Raiden is still in the works (unlike Armada Prime, sadly
Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Devastator Gallery
I'm fairly certain Devastator size to make room for all the engineering.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099330)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 25th, 2021 @ 5:22pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 25th, 2021 @ 5:22pm CDT
If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?Sabrblade wrote:In this Tweet, a magazine scan of Japanese text gives us some major news.
First, it mentions something about Masterpiece Skids and a second use of that mold, which I've already posted here in Skids's thread.
Next, the text mentions that Raiden is still coming.
Third, it seems to mention... Masterpiece Skyfire!
And finally, I cannot tell specifically whether this next point is for Skyfire or Raiden since both are mentioned in the same paragraph as this, but whichever of the two this is for, the one it is talking about will be of comparable size to "Unite Warriors size" (but it also doesn't seem to specify if it means the size of the normal non-Titan combiners or the size of UW Devastator, which would make more sense for either of the two at MP scale).
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099338)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 25th, 2021 @ 6:42pm CDT
The original Raiden had a lot of parts forming to complete the super robot. Unlike Devastator the parts were fairly important to the vehicle modes as they were the tops of the trains, and bits to connect them to each other.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 25th, 2021 @ 6:42pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Mindmaster wrote:A Masterpiece Skyfire/Jetfire would be neat but I’m perfectly happy with my Siege guy fulfilling that role. Nice to see Raiden is still in the works (unlike Armada Prime, sadly
Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Devastator Gallery
I'm fairly certain Devastator size to make room for all the engineering.
The original Raiden had a lot of parts forming to complete the super robot. Unlike Devastator the parts were fairly important to the vehicle modes as they were the tops of the trains, and bits to connect them to each other.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099343)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 7:01pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 7:01pm CDT
The Masterpiece line doesn't have size classes, so it wouldn't make sense to use a size class term for a line that doesn't have them.Rodimus Prime wrote:If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099346)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 7:19pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 7:19pm CDT
As for the size that's mentioned in the text, it would make the most sense for it to refer to the size of Devastator, yes. But, were that the case, one would think that the text would actually mention Devastator by name since he was the only one of his size in the UW line, but it doesn't. It just says "Unite Warriors size".
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099350)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 25th, 2021 @ 8:05pm CDT
I also figured if Skyfire was going to have a MP it would be the size of the Commander figure. Except much better quality. And probably triple the price.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 25th, 2021 @ 8:05pm CDT
You misunderstood. I didn't say he should be called a Titan MP or a MP Titan. I was saying that if he will be Devastator's size, why not call him a Titan instead of a Masterpiece?Sabrblade wrote:The Masterpiece line doesn't have size classes, so it wouldn't make sense to use a size class term for a line that doesn't have them.Rodimus Prime wrote:If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?
I also figured if Skyfire was going to have a MP it would be the size of the Commander figure. Except much better quality. And probably triple the price.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099354)
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2021 @ 8:39pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2021 @ 8:39pm CDT
I mean, technically they could be referring to both sizes. Star Saber is about the same size as a regular combiner and I wouldn't expect Skyfire to be bigger than him. It's basically the size of the Commander Class Jetfire.
(Yes, I realize pegging down his size is hard, especially when he's been as tall as Wheeljack in scenes, but I like him at this size).
And then Raiden would be at the 18" size and that makes sense since the individual Constructicons are at a good comparable MP scale.
I probably should point out that Commander class Jetfire cost $200 in Japan, sooo... $400?
Emerje
(Yes, I realize pegging down his size is hard, especially when he's been as tall as Wheeljack in scenes, but I like him at this size).
And then Raiden would be at the 18" size and that makes sense since the individual Constructicons are at a good comparable MP scale.
I probably should point out that Commander class Jetfire cost $200 in Japan, sooo... $400?
Emerje
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099355)
Posted by Changewinds on March 25th, 2021 @ 9:37pm CDT
Posted by Changewinds on March 25th, 2021 @ 9:37pm CDT
Hmm, it’d be odd if MP Skyfire is the same size as Siege Jetfire, since, for the most part, MPs are bigger than their CHUG counterparts. I just got my Siege Jetfire and I like him despite his flaws, so I don’t think I’ll pick up the MP one, but I am curious to see how they handle him.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099357)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 11:21pm CDT
Not everything the size of a Titan is a Titan. Epic Optimus Prime and Stomp & Chomp Grimlock, for instance, were Titan-sized, but I sure wouldn't call either of them one given how cheap their budgets and engineering were, compared to the actual Titan class figures.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 11:21pm CDT
Because, being a MP, it would have a much higher budget and engineering level than what Titans are usually allotted. And potentially diecast parts, which no Titan has ever had.Rodimus Prime wrote:You misunderstood. I didn't say he should be called a Titan MP or a MP Titan. I was saying that if he will be Devastator's size, why not call him a Titan instead of a Masterpiece?Sabrblade wrote:The Masterpiece line doesn't have size classes, so it wouldn't make sense to use a size class term for a line that doesn't have them.Rodimus Prime wrote:If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?
Not everything the size of a Titan is a Titan. Epic Optimus Prime and Stomp & Chomp Grimlock, for instance, were Titan-sized, but I sure wouldn't call either of them one given how cheap their budgets and engineering were, compared to the actual Titan class figures.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099358)
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2021 @ 11:27pm CDT
Not to mention Titan is a price point, not an indication of size, and many MPs have exceeded the Titan price point which Skyfire and Raiden will do with ease.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2021 @ 11:27pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Because, being a MP, it would have a much higher budget and engineering level than what Titans are usually allotted. And potentially diecast parts, which no Titan has ever had.Rodimus Prime wrote:You misunderstood. I didn't say he should be called a Titan MP or a MP Titan. I was saying that if he will be Devastator's size, why not call him a Titan instead of a Masterpiece?Sabrblade wrote:The Masterpiece line doesn't have size classes, so it wouldn't make sense to use a size class term for a line that doesn't have them.Rodimus Prime wrote:If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?
Not everything the size of a Titan is a Titan. Epic Optimus Prime and Stomp & Chomp Grimlock, for instance, were Titan-sized, but I sure wouldn't call either of them one given how cheap their budgets and engineering were, compared to the actual Titan class figures.
Not to mention Titan is a price point, not an indication of size, and many MPs have exceeded the Titan price point which Skyfire and Raiden will do with ease.
Emerje
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099363)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2021 @ 12:50am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2021 @ 12:50am CDT
Clarity from a Japanese speaker: This is indeed confirming a MP Skyfire in the works, and the "Unite Warriors size" (whichever size that may be) does refer to Raiden.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099372)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 26th, 2021 @ 4:23am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 26th, 2021 @ 4:23am CDT
With the last extra money of my tax return, I caved in for a MP-49 Nemesis Prime.
I got it from Mandarake and despite the hefty DHL shipping and the sureshot custom fees, it's the best overall price. I did want MP-44 but without having to pay DOUBLE for a trailer that I'll never display. So Nemesis was the best alternative. Plus his knee problem is fixed. I'm looking forward to transform the guy!
I got it from Mandarake and despite the hefty DHL shipping and the sureshot custom fees, it's the best overall price. I did want MP-44 but without having to pay DOUBLE for a trailer that I'll never display. So Nemesis was the best alternative. Plus his knee problem is fixed. I'm looking forward to transform the guy!
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099375)
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 26th, 2021 @ 5:35am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 26th, 2021 @ 5:35am CDT
Cool on raidan YAY, as for jetfire I think im good with my £45 Wfc version (that and he is already next to mp starsabre).
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099583)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2021 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2021 @ 2:55pm CDT
Still interested in Raiden, looking forward to seeing what they put out.
Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099591)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:07pm CDT
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:07pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099596)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:16pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:16pm CDT
Exactly. SS Grimlock is miles ahead of Siege Jetfire in terms of quality.-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099601)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:23pm CDT
Not in Skyfires case. The Siege on is literally MP scale, he is Star Saber sized. He's the size of the 3P MP ones too.
this is a case of literal apples to apples.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:23pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Not in Skyfires case. The Siege on is literally MP scale, he is Star Saber sized. He's the size of the 3P MP ones too.
this is a case of literal apples to apples.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099608)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:35pm CDT
The only info we gave so far is that MP Skyfire is "United Warrior sized". This mean nothing.
Beside, the MP will not be made out of semi-soft plastics with hollow spaces all over the place.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:35pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Not in Skyfires case. The Siege on is literally MP scale, he is Star Saber sized. He's the size of the 3P MP ones too.
this is a case of literal apples to apples.
The only info we gave so far is that MP Skyfire is "United Warrior sized". This mean nothing.
Beside, the MP will not be made out of semi-soft plastics with hollow spaces all over the place.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099609)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:37pm CDT
If he is the size of UW Devastator, then he fails at his mission.
If he is the size of a standard combiner, which is Commander Skyfire, 3P MP, and MP Star Saber sized, then he is comparable to the Siege one.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:37pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Not in Skyfires case. The Siege on is literally MP scale, he is Star Saber sized. He's the size of the 3P MP ones too.
this is a case of literal apples to apples.
The only info we gave so far is that MP Skyfire is "United Warrior sized". This mean nothing.
If he is the size of UW Devastator, then he fails at his mission.
If he is the size of a standard combiner, which is Commander Skyfire, 3P MP, and MP Star Saber sized, then he is comparable to the Siege one.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099611)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:41pm CDT
It was confirmed that unite Warrior size refers to Raiden. Jury is out on skyfire. He could be even bigger since Takara know people will pay it.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:41pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Not in Skyfires case. The Siege on is literally MP scale, he is Star Saber sized. He's the size of the 3P MP ones too.
this is a case of literal apples to apples.
The only info we gave so far is that MP Skyfire is "United Warrior sized". This mean nothing.
Beside, the MP will not be made out of semi-soft plastics with hollow spaces all over the place.
It was confirmed that unite Warrior size refers to Raiden. Jury is out on skyfire. He could be even bigger since Takara know people will pay it.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099670)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 28th, 2021 @ 8:40pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 28th, 2021 @ 8:40pm CDT
Star Saber is undersized. His MP is CHUG-scaled. He should have at least been the height of Armada Unicron, if not even taller. His Combiner-sized "Battle Up!" form shouldn't be the same height as Ultra Magnus.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Not in Skyfires case. The Siege on is literally MP scale, he is Star Saber sized.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099672)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 28th, 2021 @ 8:58pm CDT
The "Unite Warriors sized" referred to Raiden, not Skyfire.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 28th, 2021 @ 8:58pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Not in Skyfires case. The Siege on is literally MP scale, he is Star Saber sized. He's the size of the 3P MP ones too.
this is a case of literal apples to apples.
The only info we gave so far is that MP Skyfire is "United Warrior sized". This mean nothing.
Beside, the MP will not be made out of semi-soft plastics with hollow spaces all over the place.
The "Unite Warriors sized" referred to Raiden, not Skyfire.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099930)
Posted by Ultra Mad on March 30th, 2021 @ 8:46pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Mad on March 30th, 2021 @ 8:46pm CDT
With Black Zarak coming and Masterpiece Raiden...my wallet is going to cry but my itch to bring more japanese characters to my collection will be satisfied. I wonder what is the time table for this Raiden figure... I'm sure it's closer then we might think. However...I did see an interesting unofficial Trainbot combiner on the horizon...Choices, choices... 
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099959)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 31st, 2021 @ 2:29am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 31st, 2021 @ 2:29am CDT
Well, Black Zarak has been announced for a December release. Alongside rendered images of what he will look like.
MP Raiden, currently only exists as name without details. So I wouldn't expect to see him this year.
Meanwhile 3P Raiden/Radiatron also has a release date of December. Again with rendered images.
MP Raiden, currently only exists as name without details. So I wouldn't expect to see him this year.
Meanwhile 3P Raiden/Radiatron also has a release date of December. Again with rendered images.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099971)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2021 @ 4:44am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2021 @ 4:44am CDT
I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.
Also, Ladder Magic!
Also, Ladder Magic!
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099979)
Posted by Syclone on March 31st, 2021 @ 8:03am CDT
I wish everything was as nice as inferno/grapple and iron hide/ratchet. They were really on to something with those guys. Solid, stable, entertaining transformations without being crazy.
Posted by Syclone on March 31st, 2021 @ 8:03am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.
Also, Ladder Magic!
I wish everything was as nice as inferno/grapple and iron hide/ratchet. They were really on to something with those guys. Solid, stable, entertaining transformations without being crazy.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099988)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2021 @ 10:15am CDT
Was it the real deal then?
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2021 @ 10:15am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.
Also, Ladder Magic!
Was it the real deal then?
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099996)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2021 @ 11:34am CDT
I have absolutely no idea how to tell. Plus the Reprolabels won't help in identifying the thing.
Regardless, after playing with him, he feel damn solid and fun. So that's good I guess.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2021 @ 11:34am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.
Also, Ladder Magic!
Was it the real deal then?
I have absolutely no idea how to tell. Plus the Reprolabels won't help in identifying the thing.
Regardless, after playing with him, he feel damn solid and fun. So that's good I guess.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2100002)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2021 @ 12:25pm CDT
Well, at least he's not falling apart on you, that's probably a good sign regarding its origin.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2021 @ 12:25pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.
Also, Ladder Magic!
Was it the real deal then?
I have absolutely no idea how to tell. Plus the Reprolabels won't help in identifying the thing.
Regardless, after playing with him, he feel damn solid and fun. So that's good I guess.
Well, at least he's not falling apart on you, that's probably a good sign regarding its origin.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:19pm CDT
Full English translation of the Masterpiece interview with Kōjin Ōno from the latest issue of Figure King that talked about Skids, Reboost, Raiden, and Skyfire:
Note that by "Car Robots" he means the original Diaclone molds that became the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars.Here is a message from Mr Ono, the legendary toy designer who worked on the latest Masterpiece Skids.
The recent Masterpiece figures are difficult to transform, I feel it's much better to focus on a more mechanical transformation…. For Skids, the starting point was to create a Masterpiece figure which took a different direction and this is very different from the current trend of figures. Another aim was to keep the costs down without affecting the quality. After all the "Transformers" started with the Car Robots and they have such a strong presence especially when these vehicles turn into robots. When thinking of characters yet to receive the MP treatment, Skids the Honda City came to mind. It's true he only appeared twice in the cartoon but the overall look of the City is so attractive; and currently the 80’s is enjoying a resurgence. That's why I decided to take the challenge with Skids, not only to bring out more characters from the cartoon but also to add to the appeal of this car. Back in the day, the City was very popular, sporty and cool. It was fascinating. I used to own a red City R so I’m quite attached to it.
Having designed the Car Robots I’d never have expected to be handed this project however I was determined to do something I was unable to do in the past. The development is being handled by Yuya Onishi’s team. Due to the schedule the design has not been outsourced and has been drawn up completely by Onishi.
The colours chosen respect the animation and the weapons have been designed in a similar fashion. Additionally we wanted to follow the original Car Robot play aspect to allow us to seat the small figures, sold previously in the Masterpiece series, in the driver's seat. Unfortunately the Motocompo is not included. When you talk about the City, you can’t not think about the Motocompo but when Skids became a Transformer the Motocompo was omitted. That's the reason I didn’t include it with this version of Skids. I thought about including it when we would release a Diaclone version.
As development progressed there was a feeling in the team that if we wanted to recreate the City it would have to be “red”. This year is the 40th Anniversary of the City so my boss simply said “Don’t you think we should release two colours simultaneously?”. I thought that was a great idea for car fans to pick up two Masterpieces at the same time; Skids the Transformer and a brand new character who transforms from City to robot, Reboost! As Reboost is a brand new character we had to release it with a little extra which is why the Motocompo is included.
Several Masterpieces are currently being developed at the same time, these include the Trainbots and a brand new Skyfire. Raiden will be of a similar size to the Unite Warriors. I know everyone has been anticipating this release so please stay tuned.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:27pm CDT
Only "currently"?
Indeed. Although it is still really disappointing. Neither last year for Car Robots or this one for RiD are likely to receive any fanfare for that anniversary at all. It's ok though. They will rush to celebrate the 40th anniversary of a Honda instead....
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:27pm CDT
Mr Ono wrote: currently the 80’s is enjoying a resurgence.
Only "currently"?
Sabrblade wrote:Note that by "Car Robots" he means the original Diaclone molds that became the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars.
Indeed. Although it is still really disappointing. Neither last year for Car Robots or this one for RiD are likely to receive any fanfare for that anniversary at all. It's ok though. They will rush to celebrate the 40th anniversary of a Honda instead....
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:37pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:37pm CDT
It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Note that by "Car Robots" he means the original Diaclone molds that became the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars.
Indeed. Although it is still really disappointing. Neither last year for Car Robots or this one for RiD are likely to receive any fanfare for that anniversary at all. It's ok though. They will rush to celebrate the 40th anniversary of a Honda instead....
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Posted by Ultra Mad on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:49pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Mad on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:49pm CDT
I actually am curious about the last few sentences. When he said people have been looking to the trainbots and to staying tuned. News or reveal soon for Raiden? I'm really enthusiastic about Raiden because after I got UW Computron, I was kind of hoping for Raiden to finish my G1 autobots combiners. The fact he will be UW size (Devy or standard CW size) is still the best thing I could have hoped for since he will go with the rest of my Chug scale figures and not my masterpiece ones. Not looking forward for the price tag on it though...
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:54pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 1:54pm CDT
"Stay tuned" is corporate talk for "We have nothing to say right now about this future project, so just keep waiting."Ultra Mad wrote:I actually am curious about the last few sentences. When he said people have been looking to the trainbots and to staying tuned. News or reveal soon for Raiden?
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Posted by Ultra Mad on April 2nd, 2021 @ 2:14pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Mad on April 2nd, 2021 @ 2:14pm CDT
If "Stay tuned" is their version of "We have nothing", it is really disappointing...
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 2:16pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 2:16pm CDT
It's just a reminder/reassurance that the project isn't dead/is still happening.Ultra Mad wrote:If "Stay tuned" is their version of "We have nothing", it is really disappointing...
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 2nd, 2021 @ 2:20pm CDT
Be that as it may, a 20th anniversary is a big deal. Yet as far as Hasbro is concerned, not one that matters if it isn't G1.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 2nd, 2021 @ 2:20pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore.
Be that as it may, a 20th anniversary is a big deal. Yet as far as Hasbro is concerned, not one that matters if it isn't G1.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 2nd, 2021 @ 5:19pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 2nd, 2021 @ 5:19pm CDT
So is Skids going to be easier or even harder to transform?
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 7:23pm CDT
And lacked the runaway smash hit success of a certain other filler line from a few years later that spawned numerous sequel lines that continue to this day.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2021 @ 7:23pm CDT
As much as we like it, in all truth to be told, it was just a filler line at the time, on both sides of the Atlantic.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore.
Be that as it may, a 20th anniversary is a big deal. Yet as far as Hasbro is concerned, not one that matters if it isn't G1.
And lacked the runaway smash hit success of a certain other filler line from a few years later that spawned numerous sequel lines that continue to this day.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 3rd, 2021 @ 5:23am CDT
Indeed. In all honesty though, I just want a new version of Gigatron. Literally the best Multiformer they ever made. A one-off MP would be great. To me, he is the only original figure in that line that is worth further recognition.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 3rd, 2021 @ 5:23am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:As much as we like it, in all truth to be told, it was just a filler line at the time, on both sides of the Atlantic.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore.
Be that as it may, a 20th anniversary is a big deal. Yet as far as Hasbro is concerned, not one that matters if it isn't G1.
And lacked the runaway smash hit success of a certain other filler line from a few years later that spawned numerous sequel lines that continue to this day.
Indeed. In all honesty though, I just want a new version of Gigatron. Literally the best Multiformer they ever made. A one-off MP would be great. To me, he is the only original figure in that line that is worth further recognition.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on April 3rd, 2021 @ 6:42am CDT
What would you like to see in a potential mp gigatron?
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 3rd, 2021 @ 6:42am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:As much as we like it, in all truth to be told, it was just a filler line at the time, on both sides of the Atlantic.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore.
Be that as it may, a 20th anniversary is a big deal. Yet as far as Hasbro is concerned, not one that matters if it isn't G1.
And lacked the runaway smash hit success of a certain other filler line from a few years later that spawned numerous sequel lines that continue to this day.
Indeed. In all honesty though, I just want a new version of Gigatron. Literally the best Multiformer they ever made. A one-off MP would be great. To me, he is the only original figure in that line that is worth further recognition.
What would you like to see in a potential mp gigatron?
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Posted by JoeIsNotCool on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:04am CDT
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:04am CDT
Decided to catch up on the MPM figures, still waiting on Optimus and Bumblebee to arrive (thankfully on their way). Got Ironhide and Jazz for cheaper than I anticipated at £90 for the two! I'm excited to complete the set.
Definitely gonna need to increase shelf space!
Definitely gonna need to increase shelf space!
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:44am CDT
As a figure from 2000 he holds up surprisingly well. So as a MP, mostly just quality of life improvements, such as improved articulation. Ignoring that whole "toon accuracy" thing, which is mostly irrelevant to him. Since his default figure was that already. I'd say give him the full 10 transformations too. With the "Devil Gigatron/Galvatron" redeco, being just that. Also, as the original 'Hand Mode' could be added to G1 Fort Max. Enable the MP to connect to TR Fort Max.
Naturally he needs to be bigger too. Ignore that this is Galvatron for a moment. The TM 2 Cybershark mold is a tall figure. So a 'Commander Class' sized MP would be about right for Gigatron.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:44am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
What would you like to see in a potential mp gigatron?
As a figure from 2000 he holds up surprisingly well. So as a MP, mostly just quality of life improvements, such as improved articulation. Ignoring that whole "toon accuracy" thing, which is mostly irrelevant to him. Since his default figure was that already. I'd say give him the full 10 transformations too. With the "Devil Gigatron/Galvatron" redeco, being just that. Also, as the original 'Hand Mode' could be added to G1 Fort Max. Enable the MP to connect to TR Fort Max.
Naturally he needs to be bigger too. Ignore that this is Galvatron for a moment. The TM 2 Cybershark mold is a tall figure. So a 'Commander Class' sized MP would be about right for Gigatron.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:48am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:48am CDT
I'd see a MP Gigatron as the same size of MP Beast Wars Megatron... and the price to match.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:53am CDT
It is easy to forget how big MP Megs was
I'd like to see a comparison image between him and Siege Jetfire. But it doesn't look like anyone has taken those images.
EDIT: Fixing image problems.. Again
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 3rd, 2021 @ 8:53am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd see a MP Gigatron as the same size of MP Beast Wars Megatron... and the price to match.
It is easy to forget how big MP Megs was
I'd like to see a comparison image between him and Siege Jetfire. But it doesn't look like anyone has taken those images.
EDIT: Fixing image problems.. Again
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 3rd, 2021 @ 11:20am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 3rd, 2021 @ 11:20am CDT
Source?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Also, as the original 'Hand Mode' could be added to G1 Fort Max.
TFormers doesn't permit hotlinking.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd see a MP Gigatron as the same size of MP Beast Wars Megatron... and the price to match.
It is easy to forget how big MP Megs was
I'd like to see a comparison image between him and Siege Jetfire. But it doesn't look like anyone has taken those images.
