Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire
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Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user Sabrblade has pointed us in the direction of twitter user @UNOYUKIN07153 who has tweeted what looks like excerpts from an upcoming issue of Figure King Magazine (Same source as these Rodimus Prime images and the red redco of Masterpiece Skids).
The last news to come out of these shared magazine scans is a small bit of text, that hints that, not only is Masterpiece Raiden still coming out, but that there's also a possible MP Skyfire to join the Masterpiece ranks. There's a mention of Unite Warrior size but it's unclear who it's referring to and if it's talking about the five member unite Warrior teams like Superion, or UW Devastator.
![Transformers News: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire]( "Transformers News: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire")
While Takara have given no official confirmation to a MP Skyfire, it could be am indication of big things to come for the Masterpiece line.
What do you think of this news? Will you be all in on an MP Skyfire?
Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
The last news to come out of these shared magazine scans is a small bit of text, that hints that, not only is Masterpiece Raiden still coming out, but that there's also a possible MP Skyfire to join the Masterpiece ranks. There's a mention of Unite Warrior size but it's unclear who it's referring to and if it's talking about the five member unite Warrior teams like Superion, or UW Devastator.
While Takara have given no official confirmation to a MP Skyfire, it could be am indication of big things to come for the Masterpiece line.
What do you think of this news? Will you be all in on an MP Skyfire?
Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Credit(s): @UNOYUKIN07153 on Twitter
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099313)
Posted by o.supreme on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:31pm CDT
Raiden by far is my most wanted combiner. I would have preferred it to be a Generation Selects. However I figure it is a win-win for me.
If Raiden is 18 inches, then he will be the perfect rival for PotP Predaking. If he is smaller in scale with the other combiners, that works also considering in my collection Evil Combiners currently outnumber the Heroic ones 17-15.
I know the term "mini masterpiece" is going around a lot with respects to some of the current SS86, and WFC toys. However I would think that even an 18 inch Raiden would be too small to be considered Masterpiece? Unless it is because of the sheer amount of engineering that is involved. At any rate it would be perfect for me. If it was any larger however, it wouldn't work.
If Raiden is 18 inches, then he will be the perfect rival for PotP Predaking. If he is smaller in scale with the other combiners, that works also considering in my collection Evil Combiners currently outnumber the Heroic ones 17-15.
I know the term "mini masterpiece" is going around a lot with respects to some of the current SS86, and WFC toys. However I would think that even an 18 inch Raiden would be too small to be considered Masterpiece? Unless it is because of the sheer amount of engineering that is involved. At any rate it would be perfect for me. If it was any larger however, it wouldn't work.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099316)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:32pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:32pm CDT
I really, really hope Skyfire is as solid and fun as MP Starsaber.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099319)
Posted by Mindmaster on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:37pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:37pm CDT
A Masterpiece Skyfire/Jetfire would be neat but I’m perfectly happy with my Siege guy fulfilling that role. Nice to see Raiden is still in the works (unlike Armada Prime, sadly ![:(]( "Sad")
). I’m curious what they mean by Unite Warriors size though.
). I’m curious what they mean by Unite Warriors size though.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099320)
Posted by o.supreme on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:43pm CDT
UW (and thus CW) Devastator is 18 inches (according to TT 45 CM). This also applies to PotP Predaking
However all other UW Combiners, (and by extension CW, PotP, Selects etc...) are *roughly* 12 inches.
As I stated above, either one works for me. An official TT/Hasbro MP Combiner has yet to be released, but many 3P ones scale a bit larger in the 20-22 inch range, so not sure how hardcore MP fans will feel. But I'm encouraged by this news.
Posted by o.supreme on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:43pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:I’m curious what they mean by Unite Warriors size though.
UW (and thus CW) Devastator is 18 inches (according to TT 45 CM). This also applies to PotP Predaking
However all other UW Combiners, (and by extension CW, PotP, Selects etc...) are *roughly* 12 inches.
As I stated above, either one works for me. An official TT/Hasbro MP Combiner has yet to be released, but many 3P ones scale a bit larger in the 20-22 inch range, so not sure how hardcore MP fans will feel. But I'm encouraged by this news.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099321)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:44pm CDT
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Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Devastator Gallery
I'm fairly certain Devastator size to make room for all the engineering.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 25th, 2021 @ 4:44pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:A Masterpiece Skyfire/Jetfire would be neat but I’m perfectly happy with my Siege guy fulfilling that role. Nice to see Raiden is still in the works (unlike Armada Prime, sadly). I’m curious what they mean by Unite Warriors size though.
Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Devastator Gallery
I'm fairly certain Devastator size to make room for all the engineering.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099330)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 25th, 2021 @ 5:22pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 25th, 2021 @ 5:22pm CDT
If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?Sabrblade wrote:In this Tweet, a magazine scan of Japanese text gives us some major news.
First, it mentions something about Masterpiece Skids and a second use of that mold, which I've already posted here in Skids's thread.
Next, the text mentions that Raiden is still coming.
Third, it seems to mention... Masterpiece Skyfire!![:shock:]( "Shocked")
And finally, I cannot tell specifically whether this next point is for Skyfire or Raiden since both are mentioned in the same paragraph as this, but whichever of the two this is for, the one it is talking about will be of comparable size to "Unite Warriors size" (but it also doesn't seem to specify if it means the size of the normal non-Titan combiners or the size of UW Devastator, which would make more sense for either of the two at MP scale).
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099338)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 25th, 2021 @ 6:42pm CDT
The original Raiden had a lot of parts forming to complete the super robot. Unlike Devastator the parts were fairly important to the vehicle modes as they were the tops of the trains, and bits to connect them to each other.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 25th, 2021 @ 6:42pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Mindmaster wrote:A Masterpiece Skyfire/Jetfire would be neat but I’m perfectly happy with my Siege guy fulfilling that role. Nice to see Raiden is still in the works (unlike Armada Prime, sadly). I’m curious what they mean by Unite Warriors size though.
Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Devastator Gallery
I'm fairly certain Devastator size to make room for all the engineering.
The original Raiden had a lot of parts forming to complete the super robot. Unlike Devastator the parts were fairly important to the vehicle modes as they were the tops of the trains, and bits to connect them to each other.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099343)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 7:01pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 7:01pm CDT
The Masterpiece line doesn't have size classes, so it wouldn't make sense to use a size class term for a line that doesn't have them.Rodimus Prime wrote:If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099346)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 7:19pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 7:19pm CDT
As for the size that's mentioned in the text, it would make the most sense for it to refer to the size of Devastator, yes. But, were that the case, one would think that the text would actually mention Devastator by name since he was the only one of his size in the UW line, but it doesn't. It just says "Unite Warriors size".
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099350)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 25th, 2021 @ 8:05pm CDT
I also figured if Skyfire was going to have a MP it would be the size of the Commander figure. Except much better quality. And probably triple the price.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 25th, 2021 @ 8:05pm CDT
You misunderstood. I didn't say he should be called a Titan MP or a MP Titan. I was saying that if he will be Devastator's size, why not call him a Titan instead of a Masterpiece?Sabrblade wrote:The Masterpiece line doesn't have size classes, so it wouldn't make sense to use a size class term for a line that doesn't have them.Rodimus Prime wrote:If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?
I also figured if Skyfire was going to have a MP it would be the size of the Commander figure. Except much better quality. And probably triple the price.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099354)
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2021 @ 8:39pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2021 @ 8:39pm CDT
I mean, technically they could be referring to both sizes. Star Saber is about the same size as a regular combiner and I wouldn't expect Skyfire to be bigger than him. It's basically the size of the Commander Class Jetfire.
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(Yes, I realize pegging down his size is hard, especially when he's been as tall as Wheeljack in scenes, but I like him at this size).
And then Raiden would be at the 18" size and that makes sense since the individual Constructicons are at a good comparable MP scale.
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I probably should point out that Commander class Jetfire cost $200 in Japan, sooo... $400?
Emerje
(Yes, I realize pegging down his size is hard, especially when he's been as tall as Wheeljack in scenes, but I like him at this size).
And then Raiden would be at the 18" size and that makes sense since the individual Constructicons are at a good comparable MP scale.
I probably should point out that Commander class Jetfire cost $200 in Japan, sooo... $400?
Emerje
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099355)
Posted by Changewinds on March 25th, 2021 @ 9:37pm CDT
Posted by Changewinds on March 25th, 2021 @ 9:37pm CDT
Hmm, it’d be odd if MP Skyfire is the same size as Siege Jetfire, since, for the most part, MPs are bigger than their CHUG counterparts. I just got my Siege Jetfire and I like him despite his flaws, so I don’t think I’ll pick up the MP one, but I am curious to see how they handle him.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099357)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 11:21pm CDT
Not everything the size of a Titan is a Titan. Epic Optimus Prime and Stomp & Chomp Grimlock, for instance, were Titan-sized, but I sure wouldn't call either of them one given how cheap their budgets and engineering were, compared to the actual Titan class figures.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2021 @ 11:21pm CDT
Because, being a MP, it would have a much higher budget and engineering level than what Titans are usually allotted. And potentially diecast parts, which no Titan has ever had.Rodimus Prime wrote:You misunderstood. I didn't say he should be called a Titan MP or a MP Titan. I was saying that if he will be Devastator's size, why not call him a Titan instead of a Masterpiece?Sabrblade wrote:The Masterpiece line doesn't have size classes, so it wouldn't make sense to use a size class term for a line that doesn't have them.Rodimus Prime wrote:If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?
Not everything the size of a Titan is a Titan. Epic Optimus Prime and Stomp & Chomp Grimlock, for instance, were Titan-sized, but I sure wouldn't call either of them one given how cheap their budgets and engineering were, compared to the actual Titan class figures.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099358)
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2021 @ 11:27pm CDT
Not to mention Titan is a price point, not an indication of size, and many MPs have exceeded the Titan price point which Skyfire and Raiden will do with ease.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2021 @ 11:27pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Because, being a MP, it would have a much higher budget and engineering level than what Titans are usually allotted. And potentially diecast parts, which no Titan has ever had.Rodimus Prime wrote:You misunderstood. I didn't say he should be called a Titan MP or a MP Titan. I was saying that if he will be Devastator's size, why not call him a Titan instead of a Masterpiece?Sabrblade wrote:The Masterpiece line doesn't have size classes, so it wouldn't make sense to use a size class term for a line that doesn't have them.Rodimus Prime wrote:If they will make Skyfire Devy-sized, why not just call him a Titan? Or would it look stupid since they already released a Commander version?
Not everything the size of a Titan is a Titan. Epic Optimus Prime and Stomp & Chomp Grimlock, for instance, were Titan-sized, but I sure wouldn't call either of them one given how cheap their budgets and engineering were, compared to the actual Titan class figures.
Not to mention Titan is a price point, not an indication of size, and many MPs have exceeded the Titan price point which Skyfire and Raiden will do with ease.
Emerje
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099363)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2021 @ 12:50am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2021 @ 12:50am CDT
Clarity from a Japanese speaker: This is indeed confirming a MP Skyfire in the works, and the "Unite Warriors size" (whichever size that may be) does refer to Raiden.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099372)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 26th, 2021 @ 4:23am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 26th, 2021 @ 4:23am CDT
With the last extra money of my tax return, I caved in for a MP-49 Nemesis Prime.
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I got it from Mandarake and despite the hefty DHL shipping and the sureshot custom fees, it's the best overall price. I did want MP-44 but without having to pay DOUBLE for a trailer that I'll never display. So Nemesis was the best alternative. Plus his knee problem is fixed. I'm looking forward to transform the guy!![8-)]( "Cool")
I got it from Mandarake and despite the hefty DHL shipping and the sureshot custom fees, it's the best overall price. I did want MP-44 but without having to pay DOUBLE for a trailer that I'll never display. So Nemesis was the best alternative. Plus his knee problem is fixed. I'm looking forward to transform the guy!
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099375)
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 26th, 2021 @ 5:35am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 26th, 2021 @ 5:35am CDT
Cool on raidan YAY, as for jetfire I think im good with my £45 Wfc version (that and he is already next to mp starsabre).
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099583)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2021 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2021 @ 2:55pm CDT
Still interested in Raiden, looking forward to seeing what they put out.
Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099591)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:07pm CDT
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:07pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Re: Transformers Masterpiece- Raiden Still Coming And Possible MP Skyfire (2099596)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:16pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 28th, 2021 @ 3:16pm CDT
Exactly. SS Grimlock is miles ahead of Siege Jetfire in terms of quality.-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists
It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.
