A Better Look at Studio Series ROTF Deluxe Sideways
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Posted by Emerje on May 4th, 2022 @ 3:09am CDT
First-Aid wrote:That would rock. But i wonder if marketing costs (paying Mountain Dew) would make that figure cost-prohibitive...
Doesn't have to be Mountain Dew, just has to sort of look like it.
Emerje
Posted by Bounti76 on May 4th, 2022 @ 4:23am CDT
Posted by Barricade.it on May 4th, 2022 @ 5:15am CDT
IMHO, in some cases, SS molds aren't better then previous molds and this is one of those cases.
Posted by Barricade.it on May 4th, 2022 @ 6:09am CDT
Emerje wrote:First-Aid wrote:That would rock. But i wonder if marketing costs (paying Mountain Dew) would make that figure cost-prohibitive...
Doesn't have to be Mountain Dew, just has to sort of look like it.
Emerje
Which TF is that? awesome!
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 4th, 2022 @ 6:28am CDT
Barricade.it wrote:I think ROTF mold was better. This one is more poseable, buti is less accurate, both fot bot mode and alt mode.
IMHO, in some cases, SS molds aren't better then previous molds and this is one of those cases.
Can't be helped if they can't get the licence. As for bot mode accuracy, wait for instructions/stock pics first before casting judgement.
Posted by Emerje on May 4th, 2022 @ 7:39am CDT
Barricade.it wrote:Emerje wrote:First-Aid wrote:That would rock. But i wonder if marketing costs (paying Mountain Dew) would make that figure cost-prohibitive...
Doesn't have to be Mountain Dew, just has to sort of look like it.
Emerje
Which TF is that? awesome!
It's a retooled Payload figure for Japan's Movie Advance line. It isn't shown in that picture, but the top of the truck is painted up like a vending machine to tie the whole thing together.
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 4th, 2022 @ 8:05am CDT
Posted by Spider5800 on May 4th, 2022 @ 8:05am CDT
I'll wait to see some comparison pics with the original. At the very least it looks a lot easier to stand and pose than the RotF version, that thing had some weak ankles.
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 4th, 2022 @ 10:34am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 4th, 2022 @ 10:55am CDT
Spider5800 wrote:Hmmmm...I think it's definitely a more accurate bot mode compared to the RotF version, and the colors are certainly better. But it's clearly a LOT smaller than that version, and still has an unlicensed generic vehicle mode.
I'll wait to see some comparison pics with the original. At the very least it looks a lot easier to stand and pose than the RotF version, that thing had some weak ankles.
Note Seibs used his wheels as heels. Still, I have the Dead End version and it is indeed a balancing act.
Sometimes genericized can't be helped, Audi was a semi-last addition to the lineup, but they only wanted their car featured in the movie, and never had the thought to license it for Sideways' toys.
Posted by Overcracker on May 4th, 2022 @ 11:09am CDT
william-james88 wrote:I like the alt mode quite a bit. Looks like a fun toy
Me too.
Totally not a licensed R8, specially the back, but damn if it does not look like a cool and fun toy to fiddle with.
Posted by RotorstormNZ on May 4th, 2022 @ 3:58pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:So if Thundercracker and Galvatron are 89and 90, I wonder what 87 and 88 are? One may be the leaked Sideways? Not sure about the other
As a 1987 baby I'm hoping SS87 is something tailored to my interests like ROTF Breakway!
Rtron wrote:Now that almost all the Bumblebee movie bots are out of the way, I hope we get Core Class Dispensor one day. I know it's probably not going to happen, but the existence of the core class makes it a bit less implausible now.
Me too! It would be a fantastic fit!
First-Aid wrote:Rtron wrote:Core Class Dispensor
That would rock. But i wonder if marketing costs (paying Mountain Dew) would make that figure cost-prohibitive...
Mood Whiplash to the rescue, baby!
Posted by LinaNui on May 4th, 2022 @ 6:13pm CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:More pictures of Sideways where he’s much better transformed than in the Chefatron review, note that the head sits much higher and the backpack can compress more:
Oh now that looks so much better. Can not wait to get this guy and Galvatron!
Posted by o.supreme on May 4th, 2022 @ 7:27pm CDT
Hasbro had many exclusive SS deco variants not released by TT which caused Hasbro's numbering system to be much higher for a long time. (The first 8 SS releases lined up between both Hasbro and TT, but starting with SS-09 Thundercracker from Hasbro, it became more and more distant with each Hasbro exclusive)
However, Hasbro also used the 86XX system for toys from TF:TM, which TT also didn't follow, but they have released all those toys. Lastly, TT has incorporated the numbering system into SS Core toys where Hasbro did not.
All these events combined have caused Hasbro & TT's SS Numbering system to *almost* realign again
TF:TM Sludge is TT SS-89, which means TT SS-90 will likely be BB Thundercracker, and TT SS-91 be AoE Galvatron , just one number off
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 4th, 2022 @ 8:51pm CDT
Scored big today. I have obtained DotM Ratchet, the final retail SS figure I did not own. I cannot wait to assemble the squads when i can finally unpack the SS guys.
Posted by william-james88 on May 4th, 2022 @ 9:09pm CDT
RotorstormNZ wrote:o.supreme wrote:So if Thundercracker and Galvatron are 89and 90, I wonder what 87 and 88 are? One may be the leaked Sideways? Not sure about the other
As a 1987 baby I'm hoping SS87 is something tailored to my interests like ROTF Breakway!
Isn't SS87 the rereleased AOE BB in the Buzzworthy line?
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 4th, 2022 @ 9:32pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sideways looks nicer in those photos, I figured the backpack would work like that. Stupid earlier reviewers/leakers with mistransformations.
Scored big today. I have obtained DotM Ratchet, the final retail SS figure I did not own. I cannot wait to assemble the squads when i can finally unpack the SS guys.
Nice! DOTM Ratchet is one of my favorites.
william-james88 wrote:Isn't SS87 the rereleased AOE BB in the Buzzworthy line?
The rereleased High Octane Bee is SS-79. DOTM Bumblebee and Sideways likely have the SS-87/88 numbers
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on May 5th, 2022 @ 2:13pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:RotorstormNZ wrote:o.supreme wrote:So if Thundercracker and Galvatron are 89and 90, I wonder what 87 and 88 are? One may be the leaked Sideways? Not sure about the other
As a 1987 baby I'm hoping SS87 is something tailored to my interests like ROTF Breakway!
Isn't SS87 the rereleased AOE BB in the Buzzworthy line?
Yep, High Octane Bee was 79. My guess is 87 will be an exclusive.
Posted by william-james88 on May 5th, 2022 @ 4:38pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:william-james88 wrote:RotorstormNZ wrote:o.supreme wrote:So if Thundercracker and Galvatron are 89and 90, I wonder what 87 and 88 are? One may be the leaked Sideways? Not sure about the other
As a 1987 baby I'm hoping SS87 is something tailored to my interests like ROTF Breakway!
Isn't SS87 the rereleased AOE BB in the Buzzworthy line?
Yep, High Octane Bee was 79. My guess is 87 will be an exclusive.
Thanks guys, I had my numbers mixed up.
Posted by SpaceEagle on May 5th, 2022 @ 8:09pm CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:More pictures of Sideways where he’s much better transformed than in the Chefatron review, note that the head sits much higher and the backpack can compress more:
Thank you for this. Had a feeling something seemed really off about the backpack being that egregious. I know movie bots can't always have the cleanest look due to how complicated their CGI models are but that butt bumper would've really killed the look!
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 5th, 2022 @ 8:40pm CDT
Notably, he includes the alt mode rocket launcher seen in the movie, which we didn't know about until now. I think it's neat that he has some back detailign in bot mode too!
The kibble on the back of the truck in alt mode is a little unfortunate, but I can understand how difficult it would be to translate this design into a figure.
Posted by william-james88 on May 6th, 2022 @ 1:17am CDT
SS-90 Age of Extinction Galvatron
“That is why I have no fear! I am GALVATRON!”
Well this release came about prematurely, but its official SS Voyager Wave 3 is here. So lets get into the details on Galvatron! AOE introduced a total redesign for our core bots, along with a major aesthetic change to help refresh some of the design. While the look of these bots were fantastic, there was certainly a new engineering challenge that was presented in terms of how these guys were going to transform. To make that even more difficult, enters Galvatron.
Galvatron was the reforge body of Megatron by K.S.I. who would utilize matter shifting to transform into his first earth bound vehicle form, a Freightliner Argosy (which would later be reused by Paramount as Dr. Robotnik’s convoy in the first Sonic Movie). Absolutely none of the vehicle mode is present on Galvatron’s robot design, so Takara had their work cut out for them with this design. Regardless, it was absolutely amazing to get Frank Welker to make his return as the theatrical voice of this character.
Thankfully, Yuya Onishi was up to the task. Yuya has been such a fantastic design partner at TT, and this figure was no exception. Yuya and the team got to work on a pretty faithful design plan that would do a pretty substantial job of eliminating most of the exposed vehicle paneling from the robot mode, while retaining a fully licensed vehicle design. We were able to maintain his difficult arm cannon, while also including a removable missile cluster that could be mounted to the figures arm, or loaded onto the side fairing of the truck as it was used in the film.
For the deco of the figure, I took learning from the existing AOE design, and knew where the shortfalls were on the molded silver plastic. I tried to work more from the matte base color of the truck, so that I could allocated most of the paint operations to the robot mode. I think this figure would benefit from a bit more paint, but he used up the budget quick since none of the truck paint really carries over to the robot mode which isn’t often the case.
All in all, I am pretty happy with how this figure came out given the number of challenges that it faced, and I look forward to tackling more of the AOE designs. I mean, if we can figure out Galvatron, the rest of them should be a cake walk.
Posted by whacko on May 6th, 2022 @ 1:30am CDT
The square frame behind the robot mode chest give this figure one-step changer vibes, and the kibble on the back of the truck mode doesn't even pretend to not be robot parts they couldn't find a place to store. If you're gonna put robot feet on the back of a truck at least do it G1 Prime style. Sure they'll still look like obvious feet, but at least it doesn't break the silhouette of the truck.
Posted by jtanimator on May 6th, 2022 @ 2:35am CDT
Posted by jtanimator on May 6th, 2022 @ 2:36am CDT
whacko wrote:It just looks... bad.
The square frame behind the robot mode chest give this figure one-step changer vibes, and the kibble on the back of the truck mode doesn't even pretend to not be robot parts they couldn't find a place to store. If you're gonna put robot feet on the back of a truck at least do it G1 Prime style. Sure they'll still look like obvious feet, but at least it doesn't break the silhouette of the truck.
Haha this made me laugh out loud. I was JUST on another forum mentioning how it looks exactly like a 2011 one step changer in both modes. Thank heavens I’m not going crazy.
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 6th, 2022 @ 2:44am CDT
Still, I like it for what the designers are trying to achieve and how they reduced the back pack from the original Voyager. The feet thing I can overlook quite easily.
Posted by Barricade.it on May 6th, 2022 @ 3:28am CDT
As others have already said, the back part of the robot makes it all appear boxy.
In the alt mode, those two "things" on the rear have nothing to do with the original design and have no reason to be.
It's clear that Galvatron was a difficult job: but this isn't a great figure.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 6th, 2022 @ 4:33am CDT
I'll be preordering that Galvatron for sure. That transformation will be a blast!
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 6th, 2022 @ 5:15am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Considering that impossible design had to be worked in voyager size and budget, it's a valiant effort. I can forgive the bot cancer growth as a "trailer hitch" for the truck mode, but the boxy chest is indeed an eyesore. Yet they reduced the backpack to a minimum and even added bot details on the back which makes me very forgiving of the boxy chest.
I'll be preordering that Galvatron for sure. That transformation will be a blast!
Agreed, seems people were expecting the impossible for some reason (especially at that price point)
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Posted by Emerje on May 6th, 2022 @ 9:21am CDT
Barricade.it wrote:The problem is not the backpack itself: the problem is that the lower part of the squared shape is exacùtly where the pelvis begins: so it looks kinda a cube with a robot inside...
I suspect it wont quite have that same silhouette in hand. Just look at how much it changed just turning his waist and leaning him forward a bit.
I think there's probably more of a gap between his really big (screen accurate) hips and the squaring off of his lower torso that doesn't come across so well in a flat photo.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on May 6th, 2022 @ 9:38am CDT
Barricade.it wrote:The problem is not the backpack itself: the problem is that the lower part of the squared shape is exacùtly where the pelvis begins: so it looks kinda a cube with a robot inside...
Yes, hence why people equate this to a one step design where you basically have a robot mode sculpted on a facade (which looks really like that when you compare the CG model with the toy side to side).
There is nice sculpted detail and the transformation will be really something, I am looking forward to that. I do still enjoy that prevous voyager, it has one of the best truck modes of all time.
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Day 857 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 6th, 2022 @ 11:28am CDT
william-james88 wrote: I do still enjoy that prevous voyager, it has one of the best truck modes of all time.
I remember way back then that you didn't liked AoE Voyager Galvatron at all. So it means that one day, you found one for cheap, bought it because "why not", then warmed to it once in hand?
Posted by just_aCloud on May 6th, 2022 @ 11:29am CDT
Posted by cloudballoon on May 6th, 2022 @ 2:30pm CDT
I'm keeping the original AOE (repainted & modded -- the backpack is now a shield) Galvatron, it looks a ton better.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 6th, 2022 @ 3:53pm CDT
The truck mode is probably my 2nd favorite villain in Bayverse after Sentinel Prime. This figure seems to get it right with the exception of those things on the back.
The robot mode is alright, it's a slight improvement over the original voyager. I'm not as bothered by the boxy effect as some of you, but it is noticeable.
I still think that if this 7.5-inch figure (since saying "voyager-size" when referring to actual size is now a reason for some to get butthurt) received leader class budgeting, the engineering could have improved it some. They did it to SS86 Hot Rod, so why not here?
I was really looking forward to this, but my enthusiasm has been dampened some. This will be an in-hand decision.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 6th, 2022 @ 4:52pm CDT
Posted by cloudballoon on May 6th, 2022 @ 4:56pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:The truck mode is probably my 2nd favorite villain in Bayverse after Sentinel Prime. This figure seems to get it right with the exception of those things on the back.
The robot mode is alright, it's a slight improvement over the original voyager. I'm not as bothered by the boxy effect as some of you, but it is noticeable.
I think if you pull out the old AOE Galvy to compare the truck modes, the new SS version is also worse - exposed hinges, more panel lines, and of course the kibble at the back of the truck.
Robot mode, it's not just about the boxy torso, it's just... not as imposing looking as the old version from the early renders. To my eyes anyway.
The 2 major gripes (i.e. something I can't solve by modding) I have with the old version is the position of the knees & hip joints, which the SS no doubt solved by better engineering. So it's not like the new SS version doesn't have its merit.
Posted by cloudballoon on May 6th, 2022 @ 5:02pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:If they wanted to do a proper Galvatron, just use leftover Kreo bricks. Build the truck, then take it apart to build the robot, just like in the movie.
No, not Kreo. They should license Nanoblock for the job on ALL the "Transformium" bots.
Sorry for the rant, but Transformium... what a stupid idea. It's not even visually impressive in the movie and does Hasbro no favor for toy engineering.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 6th, 2022 @ 6:14pm CDT
We would need DUST "bricks".
Posted by DeathReviews on May 6th, 2022 @ 7:56pm CDT
But, those who like the Bayverse figures can once again make off like bandits, because they won't have to worry about ME taking any of these and reducing their chances of finding one...