Activision and Hasbro Officially Reveal Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark
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UPDATE: Courtesy of GameStop, we have a confirmed release date of 24th June 2014 (shortly before the Age of Extinction cinema opening), and a price tag of $59.99.
And thanks to CVG.com, we have a couple of additional screenshots from the game, mostly featuring the two versions of Optimus Prime, below.
Mark Blecher, SVP Digital Gaming and Corporate Development at Hasbro, Inc. said:
Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark is an arc between the Cybertron and Earth based worlds of this popular franchise. This year marks 30 incredible years of TRANSFORMERS. This game tells another chapter in the TRANSFORMERS story that all fans will love.
As a follow-up to both Age of Extinction and games War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron, Rise of the Dark Spark tells the tale of the search for an ancient, powerful relic—the Dark Spark. Players can switch between factions throughout the single-player campaign. Gameplay will include fast-paced running and shooting combat, along with vehicle action and large, dynamic conflicts.
Players will also be able to access multiplayer mode, Escalation, which allows for wave-based, survival-style gameplay for up to four online players cooperatively. Rise of the Dark Spark will feature new, upgradeable defense systems, recognizable opponents, and an expanded roster of characters, past and present. A new level system unifies single- and multi-player into one consistent character development path. Any experience earned in any part of the game will unlock awards and tactical loadout choices, like new characters, stronger weapons, special abilities, and consumable bonuses, which will be available through the entire game.
Rise of the Dark Spark is currently rated “RP” which is Rating Pending by the ESRB. Watch for the latest information.
About Hasbro, Inc.
Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS) is a branded play company dedicated to fulfilling the fundamental need for play for children and families through the creative expression of the Company’s world class brand portfolio, including TRANSFORMERS, MONOPOLY, PLAY-DOH, MY LITTLE PONY, MAGIC: THE GATHERING, NERF and LITTLEST PET SHOP.
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Posted by Mindmaster on February 17th, 2014 @ 1:48pm CST
Though how the crew of the Ark and the Nemesis will make a return for Rise of the Dark Spark will be the question. Unless it'll take place behind the scenes of Fall of Cybertron, before they go into the unstable Space Bridge.
Posted by kaijuguy19 on February 17th, 2014 @ 2:31pm CST
Also if the game has the same features like WFC and FOC wehn it comes to customizing characters and using them in multiplayer that'll be cool. If you can indeed play 40 different characters I hope we'll see WFC Arcee and Slipstream in it as well as the sisters from ROTF.
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on February 17th, 2014 @ 3:42pm CST
Did I miss something?
Posted by KnightStrike on February 17th, 2014 @ 4:19pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 17th, 2014 @ 5:04pm CST
Because High Moon Studios is no more.DecepticonFinishline wrote:Why the change in developer, though? I thought that High Moon hit it out of the park!
Did I miss something?
Posted by ChrisRiss on February 17th, 2014 @ 5:56pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Because High Moon Studios is no more.DecepticonFinishline wrote:Why the change in developer, though? I thought that High Moon hit it out of the park!
Did I miss something?
High Moon Studios still exists. They did cut a bunch of staff after Deadpool, but from what I read, that was mostly staff that worked on that game.
Posted by DoctorOblivian on February 17th, 2014 @ 6:12pm CST
Posted by dreadwing95 on February 17th, 2014 @ 6:28pm CST
DoctorOblivian wrote:i just realized something... this game idea alone ruins hasbro's idea of the Aligned continuity being separate from the primary multiverse that we are so used to. Because if that was the case, the Movie Transformers universe and the WFC/Prime universe would not be able to cross over in the first place.
this does mess everything up doesnt it. it really makes absolutely no sense at all
Posted by DoctorOblivian on February 17th, 2014 @ 6:42pm CST
dreadwing95 wrote:DoctorOblivian wrote:i just realized something... this game idea alone ruins hasbro's idea of the Aligned continuity being separate from the primary multiverse that we are so used to. Because if that was the case, the Movie Transformers universe and the WFC/Prime universe would not be able to cross over in the first place.
this does mess everything up doesnt it. it really makes absolutely no sense at all
actually, i for one am glad it screws with everything. granted it breaks more than it fixes, but i have always been partial to the fact the Unicron Primus and the thirteen are ALL multiversal singularities. The whole aligned thing ruined that, that the ALIGNED version of all these characters where separate entities. thanks to this game though, they are back to being the same individuals.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 17th, 2014 @ 6:51pm CST
It doesn't mess up anything. Just because the Aligned continuity is outside of the multiverse doesn't mean that travel between the two is impossible. Several characters have already crossed over between the two, with Lio Convoy leaving the Multiverse to go into the Aligned Continuity as Leo Prime, and Aligned Slipstream having come into the Multiverse from the Aligned continuity. TransTech Rhinox even got a glimpse of the Aligned Continuity, which he did not recognize as any known (to the TransTech) universe, noting how it was farther away than any other universe he's glimpsed at.DoctorOblivian wrote:dreadwing95 wrote:DoctorOblivian wrote:i just realized something... this game idea alone ruins hasbro's idea of the Aligned continuity being separate from the primary multiverse that we are so used to. Because if that was the case, the Movie Transformers universe and the WFC/Prime universe would not be able to cross over in the first place.
this does mess everything up doesnt it. it really makes absolutely no sense at all
actually, i for one am glad it screws with everything. granted it breaks more than it fixes, but i have always been partial to the fact the Unicron Primus and the thirteen are ALL multiversal singularities. The whole aligned thing ruined that, that the ALIGNED version of all these characters where separate entities. thanks to this game though, they are back to being the same individuals.
And with the revelations given in the Covenant of Primus book, the Aligned continuity can't be inside the Multiverse since Megatronus wasn't evil (unlike The Fallen of the mutliverse), Alpha Trion and Optimus Prime were members of the Thirteen (which is impossible for any of the many Multiversal versions of them), and Logos Prime is missing from the Aligned Thirteen.
Thus, it's better to consider there being two different groups of the Thirteen (one Multiversal and one Aligned) instead of just one set.
Posted by DoctorOblivian on February 17th, 2014 @ 7:04pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:It doesn't mess up anything. Just because the Aligned continuity is outside of the multiverse doesn't mean that travel between the two is impossible. Several characters have already crossed over between the two, with Lio Convoy leaving the Multiverse to go into the Aligned Continuity as Leo Prime, and Aligned Slipstream having come into the Multiverse from the Aligned continuity. TransTech Rhinox even got a glimpse of the Aligned Continuity, which he did not recognize as any known (to the TransTech) universe, noting how it was farther away than any other universe he's glimpsed at.DoctorOblivian wrote:dreadwing95 wrote:DoctorOblivian wrote:i just realized something... this game idea alone ruins hasbro's idea of the Aligned continuity being separate from the primary multiverse that we are so used to. Because if that was the case, the Movie Transformers universe and the WFC/Prime universe would not be able to cross over in the first place.
this does mess everything up doesnt it. it really makes absolutely no sense at all
actually, i for one am glad it screws with everything. granted it breaks more than it fixes, but i have always been partial to the fact the Unicron Primus and the thirteen are ALL multiversal singularities. The whole aligned thing ruined that, that the ALIGNED version of all these characters where separate entities. thanks to this game though, they are back to being the same individuals.
And with the revelations given in the Covenant of Primus book, the Aligned continuity can't be inside the Multiverse since Megatronus wasn't evil (unlike The Fallen of the mutliverse), Alpha Trion and Optimus Prime were members of the Thirteen (which is impossible for any of the many Multiversal versions of them), and Logos Prime is missing from the Aligned Thirteen.
Thus, it's better to consider there being two different groups of the Thirteen (one Multiversal and one Aligned) instead of just one set.
well then now it just feels like a cop out in that case. if they really wanted to make aligned separate from the multiverse then it should have been off limits for anyone doing multiverse related lore. Also wasn't Alpha Trion already confirmed be be a member of the thirteen before any of the aligned shenanigans? like, we knew he was one of the thirteen way back when Animated was still airing. I think anyway. don't quote me on that.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 17th, 2014 @ 7:12pm CST
How do you mean?DoctorOblivian wrote:well then now it just feels like a cop out in that case. if they really wanted to make aligned separate from the multiverse then it should have been off limits for anyone doing multiverse related lore.
Nope. By the time Animated was going, Alpha Trion had a Shattered Glass counterpart made, negating any Multiversal Alpha Trion from being a 13er.DoctorOblivian wrote:Also wasn't Alpha Trion already confirmed be be a member of the thirteen before any of the aligned shenanigans? like, we knew he was one of the thirteen way back when Animated was still airing. I think anyway. don't quote me on that.
Posted by DoctorOblivian on February 17th, 2014 @ 7:38pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:How do you mean?DoctorOblivian wrote:well then now it just feels like a cop out in that case. if they really wanted to make aligned separate from the multiverse then it should have been off limits for anyone doing multiverse related lore.
Meh, its just personal preference really. But i feel that the fact that the Multiverse in any way shape or form CAN even acknowledge the existence of Aligned at all, let alone allow travel between them, makes it not so special or separate anymore does it? It's supposed to be something SO far out, something SO separate that it needs its own incarnations of Unicron and Primus, you know, the gods created at the dawn of reality itself (that i believe are actually catagorized as Omniversal singularities if i'm not mistaken, or at least Unicron was at some point by someone) Yet Rhinox can find it just by sitting behind his computer? It just doesn't feel right. By all logic, Aligned SHOULD now technically BE part of the multiverse if it can be interacted with BY the multiverse regardless of who says what, and with Rise of the Dark Spark tearing down those walls so easily? I call BS on the whole thing.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 17th, 2014 @ 8:04pm CST
I get what you're saying, and can partly agree in some ways. Though, I liked how Rhinox's peculiar acknowledgement of it made clear of its specialness since he didn't just stumble upon it easily. Rather, his viewing into it was more like a fluke and extraordinarily brief since he lost the signal before he could catalog it. His spelling out just how alien it was to him (he who sees all worlds) does help note its uniqueness.DoctorOblivian wrote:Meh, its just personal preference really. But i feel that the fact that the Multiverse in any way shape or form CAN even acknowledge the existence of Aligned at all, let alone allow travel between them, makes it not so special or separate anymore does it? It's supposed to be something SO far out, something SO separate that it needs its own incarnations of Unicron and Primus, you know, the gods created at the dawn of reality itself (that i believe are actually catagorized as Omniversal singularities if i'm not mistaken, or at least Unicron was at some point by someone) Yet Rhinox can find it just by sitting behind his computer? It just doesn't feel right. By all logic, Aligned SHOULD now technically BE part of the multiverse if it can be interacted with BY the multiverse regardless of who says what, and with Rise of the Dark Spark tearing down those walls so easily? I call BS on the whole thing.
Though, as for traveling between the two, we actually don't really know how it was done in the two cases that we know about. For Leo Prime, we're just told that he "suddenly appeared" in that dimension, without going into the specifics of his dimension-hopping methods.
For Slipstream, we're not even told that she did dimenson-hop, but based on the fact that she's seen in Axiom Nexus (a place known for frequent dimension-hopping) combined with her bio pointing out who she is, we can put the pieces together. Only thing remains a mystery of her dimension-hopping is the dimension-hopping itself.
So, for all we know, the methods through which these two transcended the multiversal border could have been the most unorthordox, most unheard of methods ever concocted.
Posted by DoctorOblivian on February 17th, 2014 @ 8:25pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:I get what you're saying, and can partly agree in some ways. Though, I liked how Rhinox's peculiar acknowledgement of it made clear of its specialness since he didn't just stumble upon it easily. Rather, his viewing into it was more like a fluke and extraordinarily brief since he lost the signal before he could catalog it. His spelling out just how alien it was to him (he who sees all worlds) does help note its uniqueness.DoctorOblivian wrote:Meh, its just personal preference really. But i feel that the fact that the Multiverse in any way shape or form CAN even acknowledge the existence of Aligned at all, let alone allow travel between them, makes it not so special or separate anymore does it? It's supposed to be something SO far out, something SO separate that it needs its own incarnations of Unicron and Primus, you know, the gods created at the dawn of reality itself (that i believe are actually catagorized as Omniversal singularities if i'm not mistaken, or at least Unicron was at some point by someone) Yet Rhinox can find it just by sitting behind his computer? It just doesn't feel right. By all logic, Aligned SHOULD now technically BE part of the multiverse if it can be interacted with BY the multiverse regardless of who says what, and with Rise of the Dark Spark tearing down those walls so easily? I call BS on the whole thing.
Though, as for traveling between the two, we actually don't really know how it was done in the two cases that we know about. For Leo Prime, we're just told that he "suddenly appeared" in that dimension, without going into the specifics of his dimension-hopping methods.
For Slipstream, we're not even told that she did dimenson-hop, but based on the fact that she's seen in Axiom Nexus (a place known for frequent dimension-hopping) combined with her bio pointing out who she is, we can put the pieces together. Only thing remains a mystery of her dimension-hopping is the dimension-hopping itself.
So, for all we know, the methods through which these two transcended the multiversal border could have been the most unorthordox, most unheard of methods ever concocted.
All very true and i agree on fact that the methods on which it happened to each of these characters is unknown helps reinforce their own contained instances, but the point still stands, i feel that the fact that these things happened AT ALL makes Aligned not so special anymore.
We'll have to wait and see how things go down in Rise of the Dark Spark, hopefully seeing how this game will be the most prevalent of the multiverse/aligned crossings, HOW the game does it will either help or hurt the "separate multiverse" thing hasbro has been trying to do with Aligned. If the universe hopping is the result of something as simple as a space bridge malfunction or the meddling super being like Unicron then I'm gona just call straight out that Aligned being separate from the multiverse is complete BS regardless of what hasbro says.
Also it wouldn't really hurt too much by being part of the multiverse, things contradict themselves as it is to begin with. Adding aligned wouldn't be too much of a stretch. The multiverse Fallen's history is something to be said for that! In which case evil Alpha Trion as part of the 13 would fit right in! lol.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 17th, 2014 @ 8:33pm CST
No it wouldn't. Both that and SG Optimus Prime go against the very nature of Multiversal Singularities, in that Mult Sings do not and can not have SG counterparts, as it is simply an impossibility.DoctorOblivian wrote:In which case evil Alpha Trion as part of the 13 would fit right in! lol.
And Logos Prime is a member of the Multiversal 13, but isn't in the Aligned 13.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on February 17th, 2014 @ 8:43pm CST
If there is one message I'd want to convey to the developers: DON'T SCREW US WITH ONLINE SUPPORT. With how terrible BF4 effed the gaming community (with single player no less), this had better not start becoming a trend with selling half-broken games, otherwise you better believe i'm going to stop buying legit copies and just torrent the hell outa pirated copies.
With all that said, it sounds like its going to be cool, but I don't think anyone can tell just yet. Got to play it or see gameplay vids first.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 17th, 2014 @ 8:46pm CST
Apparently, DoctorOblivian and myself do since we're having some fun discussing it.MINDVVIPE wrote:Who cares about all that aligned and multiverse crap.
Pardon us for being nerds on a nerd-based forum.
Posted by Mindmaster on February 17th, 2014 @ 8:48pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Apparently, DoctorOblivian and myself do since we're having some fun discussing it.MINDVVIPE wrote:Who cares about all that aligned and multiverse crap.
I'd join in the fun, if my head wasn't hurting from precalculus right now.
Posted by It Is Him on February 17th, 2014 @ 9:47pm CST
Yeah, we may have lost High Moon Studios, but we gained what might be the best pixel-art game studio in the gaming biz.
They have serious gaming chops. Evidence: Ducktales Remastered, Shantae series, double dragon neon, bloodrayne betrayel, contra 4. The list is long and impressive. Do a little research and buy a couple of their games. You will be impressed. Heck, I'm now going to have to buy a 3ds for this.
Posted by #Sideways# on February 17th, 2014 @ 11:09pm CST
Maybe they should have used a picture that showed Prime's feet not clipping into the ground.
Posted by noctorro on February 17th, 2014 @ 11:44pm CST
kaijuguy19 wrote:If you can indeed play 40 different characters I hope we'll see WFC Arcee and Slipstream in it as well as the sisters from ROTF.
OMP, that's the best idea this week!
Posted by noctorro on February 17th, 2014 @ 11:49pm CST
DoctorOblivian wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I get what you're saying, and can partly agree in some ways. Though, I liked how Rhinox's peculiar acknowledgement of it made clear of its specialness since he didn't just stumble upon it easily. Rather, his viewing into it was more like a fluke and extraordinarily brief since he lost the signal before he could catalog it. His spelling out just how alien it was to him (he who sees all worlds) does help note its uniqueness.DoctorOblivian wrote:Meh, its just personal preference really. But i feel that the fact that the Multiverse in any way shape or form CAN even acknowledge the existence of Aligned at all, let alone allow travel between them, makes it not so special or separate anymore does it? It's supposed to be something SO far out, something SO separate that it needs its own incarnations of Unicron and Primus, you know, the gods created at the dawn of reality itself (that i believe are actually catagorized as Omniversal singularities if i'm not mistaken, or at least Unicron was at some point by someone) Yet Rhinox can find it just by sitting behind his computer? It just doesn't feel right. By all logic, Aligned SHOULD now technically BE part of the multiverse if it can be interacted with BY the multiverse regardless of who says what, and with Rise of the Dark Spark tearing down those walls so easily? I call BS on the whole thing.
Though, as for traveling between the two, we actually don't really know how it was done in the two cases that we know about. For Leo Prime, we're just told that he "suddenly appeared" in that dimension, without going into the specifics of his dimension-hopping methods.
For Slipstream, we're not even told that she did dimenson-hop, but based on the fact that she's seen in Axiom Nexus (a place known for frequent dimension-hopping) combined with her bio pointing out who she is, we can put the pieces together. Only thing remains a mystery of her dimension-hopping is the dimension-hopping itself.
So, for all we know, the methods through which these two transcended the multiversal border could have been the most unorthordox, most unheard of methods ever concocted.
All very true and i agree on fact that the methods on which it happened to each of these characters is unknown helps reinforce their own contained instances, but the point still stands, i feel that the fact that these things happened AT ALL makes Aligned not so special anymore.
We'll have to wait and see how things go down in Rise of the Dark Spark, hopefully seeing how this game will be the most prevalent of the multiverse/aligned crossings, HOW the game does it will either help or hurt the "separate multiverse" thing hasbro has been trying to do with Aligned. If the universe hopping is the result of something as simple as a space bridge malfunction or the meddling super being like Unicron then I'm gona just call straight out that Aligned being separate from the multiverse is complete BS regardless of what hasbro says.
Also it wouldn't really hurt too much by being part of the multiverse, things contradict themselves as it is to begin with. Adding aligned wouldn't be too much of a stretch. The multiverse Fallen's history is something to be said for that! In which case evil Alpha Trion as part of the 13 would fit right in! lol.
Boy am I happy that I didn't read the comics.
I'd be so furious over a game that I already really like because of the "story inconsistencies"
I think some High Moon dudes/dudettes must be involved. They use FOC models and probably gameplay as well. So it won't be to different from FOC (gameplay wise)... hopefully
On a side note: The story isn't correct, I hate this "game"
aaaah, amusement.
Posted by ZackRoyer on February 18th, 2014 @ 6:00am CST
#Sideways# wrote:
Maybe they should have used a picture that showed Prime's feet not clipping into the ground.
Isn't that place from Metal Gear Solid?
Posted by It Is Him on February 18th, 2014 @ 6:06am CST
Posted by VirusCarnage on February 18th, 2014 @ 6:09am CST
#Sideways# wrote:
Maybe they should have used a picture that showed Prime's feet not clipping into the ground.
Not really uncommon in these TF games tho, the feet clip into the ground happen all the time in the games.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2014 @ 8:39am CST
Which ones?noctorro wrote:Boy am I happy that I didn't read the comics.
Posted by DoctorOblivian on February 18th, 2014 @ 3:19pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Apparently, DoctorOblivian and myself do since we're having some fun discussing it.MINDVVIPE wrote:Who cares about all that aligned and multiverse crap.
I'd join in the fun, if my head wasn't hurting from precalculus right now.
i duno, multiversal singularities can be a a bit of a beast to understand themselves. i would say the calculus and Mult Sings are on the same level, wouldn't you agree Sabrblade? XD
Posted by DoctorOblivian on February 18th, 2014 @ 3:34pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:No it wouldn't. Both that and SG Optimus Prime go against the very nature of Multiversal Singularities, in that Mult Sings do not and can not have SG counterparts, as it is simply an impossibility.DoctorOblivian wrote:In which case evil Alpha Trion as part of the 13 would fit right in! lol.
And Logos Prime is a member of the Multiversal 13, but isn't in the Aligned 13.
treading into speculative head canon territory here but i think i found some easy ways to fix the problems with SG OP and logos. Trion is a bit harder to fix... don't have anything for him yet. what i have for OP and Logos are pretty straight forward.
Thirteen was the member of the original 13, Optimus is just his reincarnation. If one wanted to interpret it this way, Thirteen wanted to live as a "normal" cybertronian and everything that goes with it. so it could be just a mater of the fact that Thirteen was the Mult Sing, but Optimus ISNT.
the act of reincarnation itself stripped him what what it was to be one of the 13. Also regardless of that fact the OP was Thirteen reborn, he still had to EARN his right to be a prime again. This allows SG Optimus to exist without clashing with Thirteen being a Mult Sing.
For Logos Prime, Why couldn't The Liege Maximo BE Logos? isn't it implied that Leige Maximo is just his title? . We don't know too much about Logos other than he was an evil member of the 13. It would be quite easy to just merge the two together and have no real contradictions or consequences.
Logos Prime: The Liege Maximo
Granted this still leave SG Trion as the thorn.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2014 @ 4:32pm CST
Can't say for certain, since I took Trig instead of Calc.DoctorOblivian wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Apparently, DoctorOblivian and myself do since we're having some fun discussing it.MINDVVIPE wrote:Who cares about all that aligned and multiverse crap.
I'd join in the fun, if my head wasn't hurting from precalculus right now.
i duno, multiversal singularities can be a a bit of a beast to understand themselves. i would say the calculus and Mult Sings are on the same level, wouldn't you agree Sabrblade? XD
That's some dangerous territory, there.DoctorOblivian wrote:treading into speculative head canon territory here
The Afterword of the Covenant of Prime book had Alpha Trion clarify that "Optimus Prime" was Thirteen's real name.DoctorOblivian wrote:Thirteen was the member of the original 13, Optimus is just his reincarnation. If one wanted to interpret it this way, Thirteen wanted to live as a "normal" cybertronian and everything that goes with it. so it could be just a mater of the fact that Thirteen was the Mult Sing, but Optimus ISNT.
the act of reincarnation itself stripped him what what it was to be one of the 13. Also regardless of that fact the OP was Thirteen reborn, he still had to EARN his right to be a prime again. This allows SG Optimus to exist without clashing with Thirteen being a Mult Sing.
Also, though his body was different, present day Optimus displayed that he still had his original Prime nature when he wielded both the powers of both the Forge and the Star Saber. He was a mystical Prime like the 13, whereas a guy like Sentinel Zeta Prime was only a secular Prime with no mystical nature, having been made a Prime through political machination only, rather than any authentic endowment like the Matrix or Primus's power itself. For Optimus, since he already had his original nature locked away within himself, the Matrix simply unlocked that which he requested be hidden away until his time of need came to awaken him.
I highly doubt that Hirofumi Ichikawa created the character with the intent of it being the same person as Simon Furman's character who was perceived to be his own 13er at the time. Otherwise, I also doubt there was very little stopping Ichikawa from just using Maximo instead of creating the seemingly new character of Logos Prime. So if the two were to be the person, it is very likely that Galaxy Force Soundblaster would have just been Liege Maximo and that we'd have no "Logos Prime" like we do now.DoctorOblivian wrote:For Logos Prime, Why couldn't The Liege Maximo BE Logos? isn't it implied that Leige Maximo is just his title? . We don't know too much about Logos other than he was an evil member of the 13. It would be quite easy to just merge the two together and have no real contradictions or consequences.
Logos Prime: The Liege Maximo
Posted by DoctorOblivian on February 18th, 2014 @ 5:48pm CST
The Afterword of the Covenant of Prime book had Alpha Trion clarify that "Optimus Prime" was Thirteen's real name.Thirteen was the member of the original 13, Optimus is just his reincarnation. If one wanted to interpret it this way, Thirteen wanted to live as a "normal" cybertronian and everything that goes with it. so it could be just a mater of the fact that Thirteen was the Mult Sing, but Optimus ISNT.
the act of reincarnation itself stripped him what what it was to be one of the 13. Also regardless of that fact the OP was Thirteen reborn, he still had to EARN his right to be a prime again. This allows SG Optimus to exist without clashing with Thirteen being a Mult Sing.
Also, though his body was different, present day Optimus displayed that he still had his original Prime nature when he wielded both the powers of both the Forge and the Star Saber. He was a mystical Prime like the 13, whereas a guy like Sentinel Zeta Prime was only a secular Prime with no mystical nature, having been made a Prime through political machination only, rather than any authentic endowment like the Matrix or Primus's power itself. For Optimus, since he already had his original nature locked away within himself, the Matrix simply unlocked that which he requested be hidden away until his time of need came to awaken him.
ah, didn't know that actually. i haven't been able to get around to getting the covenant yet.
Posted by Henry921 on February 18th, 2014 @ 9:04pm CST
If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2014 @ 9:12pm CST
This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
Posted by Henry921 on February 18th, 2014 @ 9:33pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.
That's a fair point.
The feel of War for Cybertron was very G1. It had some movie aesthetics (especially in transformation and weapon design) but felt like it could easily have been a broad adaptation of the G1 origin story, and its ending seemed to set up the Autobots leaving in an ark.
Then Fall of Cybertron adapted in so many of the cartoon's elements that it felt like the game's aesthetics and backstory were being co-opted, whereas the Prime cartoon has always been intentionally vague about the war on Cybertron and only a handful of events (most notably Optimus receiving the Matrix from the core of Cybertron) being referred to in detail. Whereas War for Cybertron stood on its own, Fall felt like it had been altered so it could accommodate the cartoon, whereas the cartoon didn't seem to change in any significant way in its latter two seasons to tie in with the High Moon games.
Posted by Miles Wolf on February 21st, 2014 @ 9:55am CST
I mean, what was great of the War of/Fall of Cyberrtron games was the fact it's a new universe with a good story and good-looking characters. They gave me what the horrible Michael Bay Movies didn't, and now they have to mix both universes! Pfffff I was waiting for a new game of this series, but if it's like this I'll pass. I don't want to know anything related with Bay's movies.
This universe was great, why they had to ruin it like this...
Posted by Sodan-1 on February 23rd, 2014 @ 12:42pm CST
Mark Blecher wrote:Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark is an arc between the Cybertron and Earth based worlds of this popular franchise. This year marks 30 incredible years of TRANSFORMERS. This game tells another chapter in the TRANSFORMERS story that all fans will love.
Shallow, meaningless words from another suit who doesn't know anything. This strikes me as a quick cash-in to make the most of the two big Transformers events this year by doing a shameless Marvel vs. Capcom style crossover. I can only hope that a true sequel to FoC is in the works at some level. I'll probably end up treating this game like a fart in an interview.
Posted by leakin' lubricant on February 23rd, 2014 @ 3:12pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
War for Cybertron deluxe Cliffjumper = G1 head
Fall of Cybertron Cliffjumper render = TF Prime head
Thats why?
Posted by VirusCarnage on February 23rd, 2014 @ 3:16pm CST
leakin' lubricant wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
War for Cybertron deluxe Cliffjumper = G1 head
Fall of Cybertron Cliffjumper render = TF Prime head
Thats why?
Cliffjumnper just likes to try on prototype heads that Ratchet finds is all.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 23rd, 2014 @ 3:28pm CST
And what about before FOC came out, huh? People were saying it back then as well.leakin' lubricant wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
War for Cybertron deluxe Cliffjumper = G1 head
Fall of Cybertron Cliffjumper render = TF Prime head
Thats why?
And the cartoon is just as guilty of taking designs from the games as the FOC was with Cliffjumper's head:
Posted by leakin' lubricant on February 23rd, 2014 @ 3:35pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:And what about before FOC came out, huh? People were saying it back then as well.leakin' lubricant wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
War for Cybertron deluxe Cliffjumper = G1 head
Fall of Cybertron Cliffjumper render = TF Prime head
Thats why?
And the cartoon is just as guilty of taking designs from the games as the FOC was with Cliffjumper's head:
-Well the dicision would have had to have been made before FoC as it could not have been changed after.
-Seeing as WfC came before Prime and the dicision to align continuities came after WfC then it makes sence that Prime took designs from WfC.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 23rd, 2014 @ 3:38pm CST
Dude, the decision came even before WFC was even made. Hasbro was already putting together the Aligned continuity timeline and chronology even before High Moon Studios approached them about doing a video game. WFC's story was adapted from Hasbro's existing Aligned material in the Binder of Revelation.leakin' lubricant wrote:-Well the dicision would have had to have been made before FoC as it could not have been changed after.
-Seeing as WfC came before Prime and the dicision to align continuities came after WfC then it makes sence that Prime took designs for WfC.
Posted by leakin' lubricant on February 23rd, 2014 @ 3:52pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Dude, the decision came even before WFC was even made. Hasbro was already putting together the Aligned continuity timeline and chronology before High Moon Studios approached them about doing a video game. WFC's story was adapted from Hasbro's existing Aligned material in the Binder of Revelation.leakin' lubricant wrote:-Well the dicision would have had to have been made before FoC as it could not have been changed after.
-Seeing as WfC came before Prime and the dicision to align continuities came after WfC then it makes sence that Prime took designs for WfC.
I'm not disputing the creative merits of an aligned continuity, or the fact that Hasbro had been planning it for some time, what I dislike is that Hasbro chose to create a series that related to WfC/FoC yet used completley differing aesthetic (which in all honesty was more in keeping with movieverse). This latest game is just Hasbro yet again telling us that two differing Transverses are conected mearly because they want them to be.
Posted by ScoutBumblebee on February 23rd, 2014 @ 11:45pm CST
Seibertron has discovered listings on Target.com for upcoming game, Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark. Listings are for PS3 for $49.99, Nintendo 3DS for $29.99, Wii U for $49.99, PS4 for $59.99, Xbox 360 for $49.99, and Xbox One for $59.99. All show available for pre-order, with an in-store availability date of June 24, 2014. The game is still rated as rating pending. Here’s the overview from the listing:
Where two worlds collide!
Explore two unique worlds as your favorite TRANSFORMERS characters from both the movie, TRANSFORMERS: Age of Extinction, and Cybertron universes in a battle to secure an ancient and powerful relic, the Dark Spark!
Game Features:
-GO BEYOND THE MOVIE: For the first time ever, fight your way through both earth and Cybertron universes in an unforgettable battle to secure the Dark Spark.
-OVER 40 PLAYABLE CHARACTERS: Including: OPTIMUS PRIME, BUMBLEBEE and MEAGTRON!
-CHANGE FORM ANYTIME: Switch between robot and vehicle form on the fly!
-EPIC MULTIPLAYER BATTLES: Expanded four-player co-op online escalation mode with new upgradeable defenses and challenging Power Foes!
-NEW UNLOCK SYSTEM: Leveling system spans campaign and escalation, allowing players to unlock rewards that will aid progression in both modes!
Posted by noctorro on February 24th, 2014 @ 5:14am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Which ones?noctorro wrote:Boy am I happy that I didn't read the comics.
Any from what I read here.
Hopefully they'll add something new (like Bruticus in FOC).
And I'll probably get a ps4 -_-, I always hate first editions of consoles. Buggy as hell.
Posted by Mindmaster on February 24th, 2014 @ 8:41am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 11th, 2014 @ 5:20am CDT
Posted by El Duque on March 25th, 2014 @ 2:17pm CDT
Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark will merge the Cybertron game universe with the Michael Bay films. And there will be more than one version of Optimus Prime playable, including a long-time fan favorite.
Posted by VirusCarnage on March 25th, 2014 @ 2:26pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2014 @ 2:38pm CDT
Posted by VirusCarnage on March 25th, 2014 @ 2:41pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:For those concerned about continuity, the inclusion of G1 Optimus could just be a as bonus feature like how FOC had him as well.
Figured as much, I hope they include more then Optimus G1 though.