Additional footage of the Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Series; Panel footage, featuring Fembot Maxima #SDCC #HasbroSDCC

Kurona wrote:Anyone else finding themselves getting less and less excited for this?

Deadput wrote:At least it's a new character instead of Optimus or Bumblebee being the main character for the billionth time.

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:At least it's a new character instead of Optimus or Bumblebee being the main character for the billionth time.

Stop missing the point, man. It doesn't matter that she's a new character or not. The thing we don't like about this is that it's taking the brand new character that many of us know and love and depicting her in a negative light. The naive, altruistic, optimistic, and dutiful Windblade from the comics, whose personality we were hoping to see reflected here, has been reduced to a homicidal psychopathic maniac. Even disregarding the personality of IDW Windblade, that kind of personality is never acceptable for our main heroic protagonist gateway character, especially in a work related to a children's toy brand. She's basically an Arcee knockoff at this point, and no one wanted that. Just because it's doing something different doesn't automatically make it good.

Autobot N wrote:Seriously? If Windblade can take down Combiners that easily, then why are they a huge threat in the first place?

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Really? Not this video crap again.

But really? Windblade can just cut down combiners like that? sheesh!

Sigma Magnus wrote:Well...she wants to kill all combiners. Maybe she just made anti-combiner weapons to help with that?

YoungPrime wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Really? Not this video crap again.

But really? Windblade can just cut down combiners like that? sheesh!

Yeah, I can see some clueless exec at a Hasbro board meeting going, "Yeah...lets make her the She-Ra of the TF Universe! I'm telling you, fans will love it!"

*Shudders with revolution*

Sabrblade wrote:There's something else about the animation I feel is worth mentioning, but it's something that might make folks re-think their positive opinions about it. We were told previously that the animation for this would be in an anime style. Upon watching the video, I kept that in mind and at first thought "This doesn't look like an anime at all. It looks like a normal cel-shaded CGI Western cartoon."

BUT... Then I noticed the mouth movement, and went "Oh... OH! So that's what they meant by... Oh... Oh no... Oh NO! No. No no no no no no nonononononoooooo!"

That mouth movement is exactly the same kind of underdetailed featureless mouth movement that is common to many anime, and which we got back in both Energon and Cybertron.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I have seen worse. Not from a Transformers cartoon, but I have seen something. Something that makes Energon look like a film from Studio Ghibli.

Sabrblade wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I have seen worse. Not from a Transformers cartoon, but I have seen something. Something that makes Energon look like a film from Studio Ghibli.

Yes yes, we know there's animation out there as bad as Food Fight, but that doesn't change the fact that Energon-grade animation is still bad.

Xarmech wrote:I see Maxima fighting Menasor, but I don't see her anywhere else in the trailer. I hope they don't pull a "Cliffjumper" and kill her off before we get to know her.

P.S. Starscream sounds more like his G1 character, why so mad, and Windblade has been murder crazy in the comics before and at least she's not like her RID counterpart.

YoungPrime wrote:The Developers of this show should know better.

Sabrblade wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:The Developers of this show should know better.

Ah, but, see, the creators of this series had a similar goal in mind to that of the creators of the Prime cartoon, but whereas the Prime creators set out to make that show as "epic" as possible, this show's creators set out make this show as "bad-A-double-S" as possible. It is evident from what we've seen of this show so far where their priorities lay.

gantzrunner wrote:Jeez the animation looks beautiful, but it is so chopy it irritates my eyes. Look, we know it's 3d, so can we stop the practice of ditching frames to try and make it look like traditional animation? It feels like watching a clip on a bad connection, not quite buffering but not running smooth either. Hopefully the official release will look better, but there are a lot of animated shows that handle cg this way so I'm worried.

Sabrblade wrote:BUT... Then I noticed the mouth movement, and went "Oh... OH! So that's what they meant by... Oh... Oh no... Oh NO! No. No no no no no no nonononononoooooo!"

That mouth movement is exactly the same kind of underdetailed featureless mouth movement that is common to many anime, and which we got back in both Energon and Cybertron.

william-james88 wrote:And you talk of Cybertron but its not eve there, Cybertron had very fluid transformation sequences (the best ever, to me). Too bad they were never against an actual show background though

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And you talk of Cybertron but its not eve there, Cybertron had very fluid transformation sequences (the best ever, to me). Too bad they were never against an actual show background though

Hey, at least they had a nice clean background to make the sequences easier to use as a replacement set of instructions

VOICE TALENT

• ANNA AKANA, Victorion. With her 1.8M followers across YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram, Akana is a social media powerhouse. As an actress, she has had roles in Marvel’s Ant Man, Hello, My Name is Doris, and Freeform’s The Fosters.
• JON BAILEY, Optimus Prime. Otherwise known as the “EpicVoiceGuy,” Bailey is perhaps most recognizable as the current narrator of Honest Trailers.
• CHARLIE GUZMAN, Menasor. Known best to his 2.6M YouTube subscribers as, “DashieGames,” Guzman has made a career out of gameplay videos. He’s built his impressive fan base by taking games like Grand Theft Auto and Mario Kart, and adding comedic commentary to his gameplay.
• RICKY HAYBERG, Computron. Ricky is an actor, writer, and the host for Machinima’s franchise show, ETC.
• AMY JOHNSTON, Maxima. Best known for her work with the production company, Bat in the Sun, Johnston has also cameoed in Machinima’s recent Street Fighter: Resurrection series.
• JASON MARNOCHA, Megatron. Marnocha is an actor and writer known best for his work on Throne of Atlantis, Deathstroke: Arkham Assassin, and Justice League War Abridged.
• LANA MCKISSACK, Mistress of Flame. McKissack is perhaps most well known for her YouTube channel, thanks to her comedy sketches. She also has an extensive list of acting credits that includes Four Rooms, The Magic Pearl, and The Passing.
• BEN PRONSKY, Rodimus Prime. Pronsky is a voice actor with various TV and video game credits. He’s provided the voice to characters in shows like Aldnoah.Zero, and Magi: The Kingdom of Magic, and for games such as Dynast Warriors 8 and D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die.
• PATRICK SEITZ, Devastator. With over 200 credits to his name, Seitz has provided voices for a variety of well-known films, TV shows, and video games. His work includes Inside Out, Monsters University, and Resident Evil: Damnation.
• FRANK TODARO, Starscream. Todaro is a voice actor with various video game credits. They include Shardlight, Technobabylon, and LittleBigPlanet 1 & 2 where he was the voice of the Buzz Lightyear.
• ABBY TROTT, Windblade. Trott is a voice actress with credits that include the TV series The Seven Deadly Sins and Miss Monochrome, as well as the video game Killer Instinct.

CREATORS

• ERIC CALDERON, Executive Producer. With over 20 years in animation, Calderon has developed more than a dozen animated TV series, including Afro Samurai with Samuel L. Jackson on SpikeTV.
• GEORGE KRSTIC, Head Writer. Krstic’s 20+ year writing and producing career has spanned comedy and action animation with big franchises like Clone Wars and Speed Racer, as well as stylish originals like MTV’s Downtown and The Five Killers. He is also the creator of the Cartoon Network series Megas XLR and writes for comics and major video game titles.
• FJ DESANTO, Writer. As a long itme development and production executive, Desanto has played an integral role in the Batman franchise and for films like Constantine and The Spirit. He has also served as a writer for DC Comics, Boom Studios, Archaia Entertainment, and Shopro Books. Desanto currently serves as President and Head of Development for Silver Fox Entertainment.
• TATSUNOKO PRODUCTION Japanese production company, Tatsunoko, serves as one of the legendary story-telling forces in Japanese anime and hero culture. They’re known for creating worldwide classics such as Speed Racer and Gatchaman (Battle of the Planets).

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So there are only 3 combiners? That's.... kinda lame

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So there are only 3 combiners? That's.... kinda lame

Four. Victorion, Menasor, Computron, Devastator.

At least, four who have speaking roles, that is. Others could appear with no dialogue.

We've seen Wheeljack in the trailer, yet he's not credited here. He might not have any lines.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:But really though, where are the rest?

Sabrblade wrote:Others could appear with no dialogue.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:But really though, where are the rest?

Sabrblade wrote:Others could appear with no dialogue.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:What I was more hoping for was some sort of idk say sneak peak at them, maybe showing up in the background like Devastator did...

Xarmech wrote:I see Maxima fighting Menasor, but I don't see her anywhere else in the trailer. I hope they don't pull a "Cliffjumper" and kill her off before we get to know her.

Sabrblade wrote:And Devastator happens to be the only character in this show who's voiced by a relatively known voice actor (Patrick Seitz) instead of a YouTube person or an unknown.

Delicon wrote:Here's my thoughts.

First, the animation is great. It looks modern but has the G1 feel at the same time.

The length is a major bummer. This whole series we've been waiting for is as long as 2 standard episodes? Why were they not upfront about it? It's not even the length of a TV movie or miniseries.

As far as the voices go, we honestly didn't hear many but let me tackle the Optimus Prime voice. They really dropped the ball here. It seems obvious they didn't want to pay Peter Cullen. Anyone who has heard Jon Bailey's Optimus voice knows that it is the next best thing and actually sounds more like G1 Prime than Cullen himself has in recent years. The problem is that this isn't Bailey's Prime voice, it's a very generic sounding voice that really misses the mark. I would hope that we'll get more G1 based animation in the future and a real series and hopefully Jon can return as Optimus and do the voice the way he has before.

Randomhero wrote:It's pretty cool John Bailey is doing the voice of Optimus Prime officially. First watch I didn't catch him doing Optimus, only the narration and it made me go "seriously? You're having John Bailey narrate but not him as Optimus?" But second watch, yeah that John. Awesome

Sabrblade wrote:So, on the voice acting side, it's mostly YouTube people, minor actors, and Patrick Seitz.

jON3.0 wrote:So for those who don't know, I'm going to be the voice of Optimus Prime in Transformers: Combiner Wars. It's been painful, to be honest, wading through all of the hate and negativity even here where I always felt was a safe place from haters. I've been imitating Optimus since I was 5 years old. 32 years of practice. I can't say that I've unofficially filled in for a certain voice before and no one ever even noticed. The voice of Optimus was what inspired me to pursue this career along with my wife's motivation and it's always been a lifelong dream to work on something official for this brand. It finally happened for me. The reactions are divided because let's face it, TF fans hate change and only ever want the original cast on the other hand I've had plenty of supportive friends that are happy for me. I have the experience and chops to back this up, people. I've been doing voiceover work since 2009 professionally in over 3,000 jobs. I've voices over a dozen video game characters in XCOM, Dishonored 2, etc., the voices for toys, commercials, trailers, documentaries, a reality series this October, network promos for ABC & NBC, filled in for some of the biggest Hollywood actors, cartoon characters on FOX ADHD and much more. Some of the other cast members have also done legitimate professional voice acting and/or on-camera work. It's an insult to them to say we're second-hand or unprofessional. You all have done jobs that others have done before you, yes? Just because you're doing the job now doesn't mean you're as good as your predecessor or maybe you're better but I bet if someone used a term to categorize you as inferior compared to the previous employee, it would offend you. Different doesn't always have to be "bad" and there's a lot on the production side of animation that only those who work in the industry would know about and understand.

jON3.0 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:And Devastator happens to be the only character in this show who's voiced by a relatively known voice actor (Patrick Seitz) instead of a YouTube person or an unknown.

Um, ouch?

Deadput wrote:I'm sure that Hasbro is purposely limiting the budget and trying to make this show bomb so we don't ask for anything like it again.


Probably not but that's what I would do if I was making a show for a non stop complaining fandom.

dragons wrote:And for this series not everyone have Netflix I don't want need Netflix I don't stream you need wifi to stream bad weather bad wifi this series will be bad if you can't download to computer