Additional Images of Devil Horns Custom Kit for Classics Cliffjumper

Hmmm, I was excited by this before, now, not so much. The "helmet" part is great, but the face is too feminine. Not that I could do any better.

It's OK, but it's really going to depend on the price. My WFC CJ head currently on my Classics was only 9 bucks, and came with a hand gun and a sweet model car

The face looks strange to me...but I still like it

hopefully will get price and availability soon

Nice !!! Too bad I missed out on Cliffjumper. Maybe Henkei will reissue him again without the annoying graphics like the new United Bumblebee. But then theyll probally create a new head mold and this guy will be screwed. Anybody know a company selling Cliffjumper at a reasonable price ???

Nice !!! Too bad I missed out on Cliffjumper. Maybe Henkei will reissue him again without the annoying graphics like the new United Bumblebee. But then theyll probally create a new head mold and this guy will be screwed. Anybody know a company selling Cliffjumper at a reasonable price ???

reasonable price no cmdstore.com selling theres for 70. theres one on amazon going for 42. its nice set that head makes him sauraish looking very screen accuate.

Wow, this is awesome. I can see him now, taking the worst aim at Megatron ever with his Sniper Rifle.

"I've got Megatron in my Sniper Scope!" ~Cliffjumper

Had better be affordable...

I was thrilled by this kit when I first saw it, but these close in pics have me rethinking it. The Red helmet looks awesome, and the guns are nice too, but the facesculpt is awful. The eyes are too squinty and the mouth too feminine. Maybe the eye sockets can be widened by filing out the top, and the 'full luscious lips' filed off, and a simple smirk engraved in, but that is a lot of work...

It is strange, the lineart pic of the head on the back of the box looks absolutely fine, bigger eyes and just a neat line for his mouth.

I guess if it is cheap enough I may be willing to take that job on, but otherwise I may just get a Generations Cliffjumper and paint the head to match.

I like it, but I do wish the weapons were black.

I like it. Simple and straightforward.

Though, FP takes the cake here because their set modified the robot and vehicle mode to differentiate him from being a mere redeco of Bumblebee.

It's a shame this company didn't do the same. It didn't have to be a replication of FP's work, but along those lines would've been nice.

Idunno...I wasn't a fan of FPs vehicle mods--just looked forced, IMO. Adding something somewhere just for the sake of making it look different. And their head was pretty goofy looking.

As for the grey guns, it amazes me that people are considering full-on makeovers of the head sculpt, yet no one is willing to say that they can just paint the dang guns black if they don't like the grey.

Wrong pedestal folks. Should have gone with Taurus instead of Aries. (Mess with the Bull and you'll get the horns.)

Aside from that minor nitpick which I had to make on account of I'm a Taurus, all I have to say about this set is Sign Me Up!

Guns = yes
Head = no

Holy cow, Clifjumper is now the God of War!

Yea I don't like the face, although the helmet is pretty nice.

Whats with all the satanic stuff??? Screw that I am scared to buy something like that all my other TF's might become possesed

T-Macksimus wrote:Wrong pedestal folks. Should have gone with Taurus instead of Aries. (Mess with the Bull and you'll get the horns.)

Aside from that minor nitpick which I had to make on account of I'm a Taurus, all I have to say about this set is Sign Me Up!

You do know a Ram or Goat's head is a satanic symbol, right?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:Wrong pedestal folks. Should have gone with Taurus instead of Aries. (Mess with the Bull and you'll get the horns.)

Aside from that minor nitpick which I had to make on account of I'm a Taurus, all I have to say about this set is Sign Me Up!

You do know a Ram or Goat's head is a satanic symbol, right?

So? Aries isn't the devil.

I like the helmet but I do not like the face at all. If it's less than 30 bucks ills probably pick it up though.

This had better be cheap-o with a captial "cheap".

I like it. I do wish the weapons were black and that they could somehow store on his back. The face seems a little pinched too, like the eyes are too close together or something. For $20-$30 this is just right. Much more than that and I'd probably pass. I might end up with this and whatever Venksta has in the works. His project sounded a little more ambitious (read:interesting).

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:Wrong pedestal folks. Should have gone with Taurus instead of Aries. (Mess with the Bull and you'll get the horns.)

Aside from that minor nitpick which I had to make on account of I'm a Taurus, all I have to say about this set is Sign Me Up!

You do know a Ram or Goat's head is a satanic symbol, right?

Since I don't know the tone or intent behind this, I'm refraining from being over reactionary and going into a**-hole mode. I was only trying to have a bit of fun when I made my Zodiac reference. Something to offset the negative stuff I've been spewing about DotM lately and maybe restore a little Karmic balance. I could care less about the Satanic iconography, of which I am not at all ignorant. I prefer to think that the horn reference is more in line with his recent TF:Prime incarnation but hey, it's a relatively free planet. If someone wants to throw old CJ in with the the Satanist's, that options there. (not saying that you are in that camp JelZe, I'm just trying to not step on anyones toes and probably failing miserably).

I think people are taking this stupid thing way too far. It's a head, two guns, and comes in a box labeled Devil Horns. That is ALL there is to it.

ALL.

Satanic imagery this and that and blah blah blah, lolwhut?

No. Buy it, don't buy it, but don't make it out to be something it's not.

It's going to be an overpriced accessory set, that's all.

Autobot032 wrote:I think people are taking this stupid thing way too far. It's a head, two guns, and comes in a box labeled Devil Horns. That is ALL there is to it.

ALL.

Satanic imagery this and that and blah blah blah, lolwhut?

No. Buy it, don't buy it, but don't make it out to be something it's not.

It's going to be an overpriced accessory set, that's all.

Haha, I dont think anyones making any big deal at all about it, they're just saying whatever.

Its just the creator's styling for his box art, I think its cool (and it is sorta satanic with the pentagram and such), but then again i'm a metalhead. It really has nothing to do with the world of transformers other than maybe the horns.. even then, CJ is way too much of a good guy to have any connection to satan, or my TF version of satan, which is Unicron.

That face really turned me off. I just bought Cybertronian Cliffjumper and decapitated it. I have reshaped the horns to make them more 'Cliffjumpery' and will paint it to match Classics Cliffjumper when I next dig it out of storage.

Is this the reason Cliffjumper's price has gone through the friggin' roof of late? I supposedly bought one through the BTS forum at TFW two months ago, but dude stiffed me so I had to file a paypal dispute and since then the damn thing has jumped to 40+ dollars! I really hope Takara releases this guy in the not too distant future...especially without the lame silver deco.

I definitely want this!! It looks fantastic! (Now I just need to find a Cliffjumper ) Does anyone know if the usual internet stores (i.e. BBTS, TFSource etc.) will carry this set? (Totally new to buying 3rd party stuff, so please pardon any noobishness on my part )

I'm getting this mostly because my Cliffjumpers face wasn't painted. I do like it, but wish the guns were black.....

I'd really like some solid info on this set. Maybe even some interaction from the creator if he's seeing comments that is. I know my Cliffjumper has lived this long without a new noggin but I'm feeling anxious about this. Heh.


:EDIT:
Not even 5 minutes after posting this, TFSource lists their pre-orders. http://www.tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/2266/

Looking to upgrade your Classics Cliffjumper, but don't want to take out a second mortgage to afford the FansProject set? Site sponsor TFsource has a more affordable option. The Classics Cliffjumper - Devil Horns - Custom Kit is now available for preorder!

This great custom upgrade kit includes everything you will need to upgrade your Classics Cliffjumper! Included is an all new head sculpt, and two guns: A Hand-Held Beam Cannon and a Special Function Laser Gun!

All parts of this product are made from ABS material,the eyes of the head sculpt are transparent blue and are made from PC material.

I have been trying to preorder this thing but TFSource says my zipcode is invalid. That can't be true because I ordered Universe Grapple from them this very morning using the exact same payment information!!!!

Is anyone else having a problem preodering this thing??

Naked Magnus wrote:I have been trying to preorder this thing but TFSource says my zipcode is invalid. That can't be true because I ordered Universe Grapple from them this very morning using the exact same payment information!!!!

Is anyone else having a problem preodering this thing??

Same here, glad it's not just me.

I was having that problem too but I forgot I wanted to add the Kup head to my order. Once I did that, I had no issue. I can imagine you guys don't want to have to buy an extra item though. Also, shouldn't I get the news cred for this or at least shared credit?

Flux Convoy wrote:I was having that problem too but I forgot I wanted to add the Kup head to my order. Once I did that, I had no issue. I can imagine you guys don't want to have to buy an extra item though. Also, shouldn't I get the news cred for this or at least shared credit?

In the words of Optimus Prime, "My bad". Credit given.

No problem. Did you guys get it sorted out?

Flux Convoy wrote:No problem. Did you guys get it sorted out?

I haven't tried again yet.

I have faith in Venksta. I'm sure Cliffjumper will be able to tow any included weapons (transformable cannon would be epic) on the bot mode jetpack/alt mode wavecrusher. In line with all the other stuff Venksta does, the head will be classictastic. On topic: Not bad for an initial product. Really just wish it came in a plastic bag and cost 15.00 - honestly, $20+ and shipping on top of that... so really - $30 for a three piece (two small one medium) add-on kit for a deluxe? Kinda steep, Devildood...

I hope Hasbro just reissues cliffjumper without the stupid white graphics and the WFC head so people dont even have to deal with this drama.

Also, dont you hate these little b***hes who triple the price of a retail item when a 3rd party accessory comes out ??? I like to take the person who invented that idea and slap him in the face. STRAIGHT UP.

If it comes to BBTS, sure, I'll get it.

The preorder seems to be working now, just placed an order.

Mkall wrote:If it comes to BBTS, sure, I'll get it.

Same here, in which I'm pretty sure they will......

Why would I by this? For the head mold, which is about it. His guns are that dull toned grey and are so unapealing. At least the Fansproject's had nice black guns, a spoiler to differentiate Cliff and Bumblebee's alt modes, and a nice head mold. So who would pick this set over Fansproject's?

Pr1meSuspect wrote:Why would I by this?

Your arguments are dead on. I would submit that it's more about availability and price than anything else. We must also remember that the FansProject 300 limited run was a garage kit made out of hardened resin opposed to plastic (not to mention one must superglue the alt mode kit parts to the figure). I would prefer those kind of parts like the spoiler and front accent kit to be snap on - allowing for resale/trade of the original figure. I think Renderform's Venksta might be on to this - not to mention a few extras that might follow the engineering gimmicks of other transforming toy add-on manufacturers. I buy transforming 3rd party add-ons at a premium price because they are inspired by the facet of the transforming gimmick. Artwork on packaging and insert trays are nice, but if it tacks on an extra 5 bucks and possibly more on the shipping - I'd prefer cheaper packaging and lower shipping rates. This Devil Horns Kit is great for those wanting a minor upgrade to the Cliffjumper character in the classics aesthetic. I would prefer at least some kind of transformation in the weapons, if I'm dropping more than $20 on a few pieces of plastic. This is what makes/made FansProject's Sidearm so successful - price, aesthetic, and gimmick.

Pr1meSuspect wrote:So who would pick this set over Fansproject's?

FPs set for $300 or so vs. this set for about $20? Count me as one that would choose the latter. All things being equal? Sure, gimme the FP set...but that's not really an option at this point.

Kibble wrote:

Pr1meSuspect wrote:So who would pick this set over Fansproject's?

FPs set for $300 or so vs. this set for about $20? Count me as one that would choose the latter. All things being equal? Sure, gimme the FP set...but that's not really an option at this point.

I agree. Though some of us should go together, group buy the FP set and repro it for cheap prices. We'd make our investment back, and fast.

Autobot032 wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Pr1meSuspect wrote:So who would pick this set over Fansproject's?

FPs set for $300 or so vs. this set for about $20? Count me as one that would choose the latter. All things being equal? Sure, gimme the FP set...but that's not really an option at this point.

I agree. Though some of us should go together, group buy the FP set and repro it for cheap prices. We'd make our investment back, and fast.

It's been repro'd to ill effect. It looks like carved Velveeta. Honestly, after doing some info searches and reading reviews of the FansProject kit, I was disappointed but relieved by what I read. Apparently, the paint can be pretty fragile. This new one looks like molded plastic rather than paint. Sure, I'd like some of the other upgrade bits from the FP set too but this one will certainly work for me at this cost. I really only require the new head, so this works. The weapons are a nice bonus despite my wish that they were black.

I am a proud owner of the FP Cliffjumper kit. It is not the same quality that we are used to from City Commander and up. That said it is a pretty unique piece and I am very glad to have it.

This kit is a more than serviceable upgrade to Cliffjumper. It looks to be of quite good quality, and does it's job of differentiating CJ from BB. And I would not at all be hesitant to hit those guns with a quick coat of a good quality black spray paint. This appears to be a great alternative for those without the $300 for the FP kit, and no shame in having this as opposed to the FP one.

Now If I can fin CJ for a reasonable price.

What would be the best paint to use in reproing the guns? I'm definitely getting this set.

If I could afford the FP kit, I would so get it. Was $300 the original price for it?

headsortails wrote:What would be the best paint to use in reproing the guns? I'm definitely getting this set.

If I could afford the FP kit, I would so get it. Was $300 the original price for it?

I would think that krylon fusion would work well. The FP kit was originally $30 through TFclub. The problem was that most people on these forums can't read the site so it was difficult to order. The price seemed to go up by $10 a week for a while. By the time I figured out how to get one it was up to $90. It continued to go up for another couple weeks and then sold out.

Wow from 30 to 300!! Yeah, I wish I could have caught that one a long time ago.

I've been waiting for this to be available from BBTS so I could add it to my POL...well, they finally put a preorder up for it but the dicks are charging $7 more for it than TFsource! I may just skip it altogether now as I was already debating if it was worth it... Piss me off!

Sorry, just wanted to vent.