BBC North West Showcases Alleged Biggest Transformers Collection
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The collection in the video, belonging to Mancunian Louis Georgiou, is claimed to be around 1900-2000 items strong, but also appears to include non-official products from third party companies and knock-offs (I see you, offcolour RID Wheeljack), alongside many new and older Hasbro and Takara Tomy figures (including a Sixshot and Victory Leo!). Nonetheless, the clip is warming in that it shows another perspective to mainstream media audiences about the hobby as sometimes does not happen, mentions that the collection started by buying toys for his son first of all, and is shown to the office co-workers regularly, as they all wait in that space. Check it out below, and join our discussion on what makes a full collection, what makes Your collection, how many is too many or how many is the most - all in the Energon Pub boards!
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Posted by ausbot on May 17th, 2018 @ 4:43am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 17th, 2018 @ 5:25am CDT
I don't think I could ever own that many. There's not that many Transformers figures I would like to have and I like to keep my collections managable. Selling off ones I'm bored with and keeping my absolute faves.
Impressive collection though.
Posted by ScottyP on May 17th, 2018 @ 7:08am CDT
Neat seeing someone's collection though.
Posted by sol magnus on May 17th, 2018 @ 7:15am CDT
Posted by Rated X on May 17th, 2018 @ 7:58am CDT
ScottyP wrote:One day the person with the actual largest collection will go public with it and I look forward to seeing it. It's not mine, by a long shot!
Neat seeing someone's collection though.
If Guinness says this is the largest collection why would you dispute them?
Posted by Seibertron on May 17th, 2018 @ 8:24am CDT
Rated X wrote:ScottyP wrote:One day the person with the actual largest collection will go public with it and I look forward to seeing it. It's not mine, by a long shot!
Neat seeing someone's collection though.
If Guinness says this is the largest collection why would you dispute them?
Because it's not the biggest, not by a long shot. I have a far larger collection, and I doubt even mine is the largest. I've estimated for years that I own around 8,000+ Transformers. Over 4,000 of which I have photographed for this site. When you've been obsessively collecting only Transformers primarily for 34 years, 1,000 Transformers is an extremely easy number to surpass.
Posted by MECHdirge on May 17th, 2018 @ 8:26am CDT
That said, I am definitely a casual collector.
I have a few other hobbies that make a lot more sense, but I still enjoy unboxing new figures every 3-4 months (big shipments from BBTS). I have about half on display on wall shelves in my man cave, but we really don’t use the room for much aside from exercise equipment.
I can only imagine the hardcore collectors have four and five thousand figures, although I guess some have specialties that get increasingly expensive and difficult to locate. I still haven’t added a few “holy grail” type G1 figures to my collection... Fort Max, for example, although I bought the recent Titans. I don’t keep my toys in the box (no room, nor interest). I’m not looking for the thousand dollar plus chase figures and Japanese exclusives. If I have half as many figures as this guy, I would guess he’s not even in the ballpark for a world record collection.
That said, it’s still neat to see how, why, and what other Transformer collectors like. I really don’t have any interest in conventions and only have bumped into one other collector in the last 17 years (coworker of my wife). I am mostly a lurker on these forums. It’s not a very “social” hobby, at least for me, compared to other interests (tabletop gaming and car shows). I would definitely like to see more on why people collect and what their particular interests are. I really have never been able to answer the “why” adequately... save I enjoy having new versions of the toys I was very fond of for a short time as a child. **Shrugs**
Posted by kurthy on May 17th, 2018 @ 8:34am CDT
https://t.co/MQKyJMEP9X?amp=1
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 17th, 2018 @ 8:39am CDT
Seibertron wrote:Rated X wrote:ScottyP wrote:One day the person with the actual largest collection will go public with it and I look forward to seeing it. It's not mine, by a long shot!
Neat seeing someone's collection though.
If Guinness says this is the largest collection why would you dispute them?
Because it's not the biggest, not by a long shot. I have a far larger collection, and I doubt even mine is the largest. I've estimated for years that I own around 8,000+ Transformers. Over 4,000 of which I have photographed for this site. When you've been obsessively collecting only Transformers primarily for 34 years, 1,000 Transformers is an extremely easy number to surpass.
Before I choose to downsize it, my own collection was easily 3000+ figures. 2000 is impressive, but nowhere near the biggest even on this site. Just look over some of the collection threads.
Posted by Super Megatron on May 17th, 2018 @ 8:56am CDT
2000 figure isn't a "collection" - it's a section of any real collectors.
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:23am CDT
Super Megatron wrote:This is so cute.
2000 figure isn't a "collection" - it's a section of any real collectors.
This is going to sound personal, but it's not.
I don't like the above attitude. It doesn't matter if you have 1 figure, a 100, or 10000, a collection is what you make of it.
That's different for everyone.
Posted by Seibertron on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:24am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Super Megatron wrote:This is so cute.
2000 figure isn't a "collection" - it's a section of any real collectors.
This is going to sound personal, but it's not.
I don't like the above attitude. It doesn't matter if you have 1 figure, a 100, or 10000, a collection is what you make of it.
That's different for everyone.
Like they always say, it's not the size the matters...
Posted by ScottyP on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:25am CDT
Rated X wrote:ScottyP wrote:One day the person with the actual largest collection will go public with it and I look forward to seeing it. It's not mine, by a long shot!
Neat seeing someone's collection though.
If Guinness says this is the largest collection why would you dispute them?
Because unlike other records dealing with size, mine is actually larger in this case
Posted by Rated X on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:27am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Seibertron wrote:Rated X wrote:ScottyP wrote:One day the person with the actual largest collection will go public with it and I look forward to seeing it. It's not mine, by a long shot!
Neat seeing someone's collection though.
If Guinness says this is the largest collection why would you dispute them?
Because it's not the biggest, not by a long shot. I have a far larger collection, and I doubt even mine is the largest. I've estimated for years that I own around 8,000+ Transformers. Over 4,000 of which I have photographed for this site. When you've been obsessively collecting only Transformers primarily for 34 years, 1,000 Transformers is an extremely easy number to surpass.
Before I choose to downsize it, my own collection was easily 3000+ figures. 2000 is impressive, but nowhere near the biggest even on this site. Just look over some of the collection threads.
I hear you. But just like all those "worlds largest animal" records, there are always alleged sightings made by people who claimed to see larger but failed to document it. If you truly believe your collection is a better contender for that title, why not document it?
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:28am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Super Megatron wrote:This is so cute.
2000 figure isn't a "collection" - it's a section of any real collectors.
This is going to sound personal, but it's not.
I don't like the above attitude. It doesn't matter if you have 1 figure, a 100, or 10000, a collection is what you make of it.
That's different for everyone.
This I be agreeing with. My collection will probably never exceed something like 35-50 figures at any one time but it's still my collection.
Posted by ScottyP on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:49am CDT
Speaking for myself: it's a ton of work, I don't collect for recognition, and I know for a fact it is not a "world record" collection even if it were to be given that title by a for-profit company like GuinnessRated X wrote:If you truly believe your collection is a better contender for that title, why not document it?
I think everyone's collection is awesome despite the size and there are enough things in life that are competitive. Don't need to extend that to this hobby too!
Posted by President-prime on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:59am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 17th, 2018 @ 10:00am CDT
What they said. If it's done right, a collection is for personal enjoyment, not the expectations of anyone else. I have roughly 120 figures in my collection, and it continuously changes. I buy new ones, I get rid of those I get tired of. Unfortunately, sometimes later on I regret getting rid of certain figures and get them back. That's the only aspect of my collecting I need to get under control.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Super Megatron wrote:This is so cute.
2000 figure isn't a "collection" - it's a section of any real collectors.
This is going to sound personal, but it's not.
I don't like the above attitude. It doesn't matter if you have 1 figure, a 100, or 10000, a collection is what you make of it.
That's different for everyone.
This I be agreeing with. My collection will probably never exceed something like 35-50 figures at any one time but it's still my collection.
Posted by President-prime on May 17th, 2018 @ 10:01am CDT
Posted by Treetop Maximus on May 17th, 2018 @ 10:47am CDT
President-prime wrote:Here’s some pictures of one of my walls.
Man, how do you keep all that dusted? I've got a few hundred but it's mostly just MPs and TLK figures on display at the moment.
Posted by Lore Keeper on May 17th, 2018 @ 11:55am CDT
Seibertron wrote:Rated X wrote:ScottyP wrote:One day the person with the actual largest collection will go public with it and I look forward to seeing it. It's not mine, by a long shot!
Neat seeing someone's collection though.
If Guinness says this is the largest collection why would you dispute them?
Because it's not the biggest, not by a long shot. I have a far larger collection, and I doubt even mine is the largest. I've estimated for years that I own around 8,000+ Transformers. Over 4,000 of which I have photographed for this site. When you've been obsessively collecting only Transformers primarily for 34 years, 1,000 Transformers is an extremely easy number to surpass.
*gasps* Do you have them all out? I wanna see!!!
Posted by blackeyedprime on May 17th, 2018 @ 11:58am CDT
I'm no where near but at approx 250 figures on display, lots more in storage with the 'rents, sold off almost all my beast wars collection which included most of the japanese figures, most of my beast machines, binaltechs, Baynus and all of my animated and then have about 50 figures to sell from various lines/my old figures and a few boxes of stuff I don't have the room to display at the moment. It soon adds up and consumes space which is why I was meant to only be collecting MP figures
Posted by Black Bumblebee on May 17th, 2018 @ 12:24pm CDT
President-prime wrote:Here’s some pictures of one of my walls.
Where are those giant versions of the Witwicky family from that are behind the Masterpiece Spike?
Posted by dragons on May 17th, 2018 @ 12:35pm CDT
Posted by Hip-Hoptimus Rime on May 17th, 2018 @ 12:56pm CDT
President-prime wrote:Here’s some pictures of one of my walls.
Seeing Metroplex up that high makes me nervous.
Posted by william-james88 on May 17th, 2018 @ 2:02pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:One day the person with the actual largest collection will go public with it and I look forward to seeing it. It's not mine, by a long shot!
I did think it was yours.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on May 17th, 2018 @ 2:27pm CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on May 17th, 2018 @ 2:56pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 17th, 2018 @ 3:46pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on May 17th, 2018 @ 3:57pm CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:I have to agree with what others have said, theres no way thats the biggest collection. I myself have over 1800 transformers, ive seen collections in person that are twice the size of mine and i know many people on this site alone have more than that. The Guinness people need to do more research.
They'll only record a record that they themselves have personally observed and counted. Seibertron might have over 8,000 figures, but unless he has them come over to count them he isn't getting the record. Pictures aren't enough, it has to be verifiable.
I would imagine there's someone very wealthy out there that has a private collection that's nearly complete and maybe has some multiples for loose and MIB.
Emerje
Posted by Cobotron on May 17th, 2018 @ 4:02pm CDT
People ask all the time, but I've never taken a head count.
I think maybe I don't want to know.
It would be nice to know what's bigger, my Transformers collection, or my 3 3/4 Star Wars.
I'm betting at this point, TFs is bigger.
Posted by zko on May 17th, 2018 @ 5:32pm CDT
I'm guessing I'm around 3000-4000 right now, but that is just a guess.
Posted by william-james88 on May 17th, 2018 @ 6:12pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Maybe it's time I finally count them.
People ask all the time, but I've never taken a head count.
I think maybe I don't want to know.
I know I don't want to know, because then my wife will know.
Posted by sol magnus on May 17th, 2018 @ 6:17pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Maybe it's time I finally count them.
People ask all the time, but I've never taken a head count.
I think maybe I don't want to know.
I know I don't want to know, because then my wife will know.
My wife knows how many, but she doesn't know how much. She can never know.
Posted by kurthy on May 17th, 2018 @ 6:22pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Maybe it's time I finally count them.
People ask all the time, but I've never taken a head count.
I think maybe I don't want to know.
I know I don't want to know, because then my wife will know.
Also begs the question of how to count? Do you count by how it was packaged or individual robot modes? Example would be UW Menasor as one but CW Menasor as six and CW G2 Menasor as one.
Then there's issues like headmasters, targetmasters, SS Blackout, and don't get me started on the different ways to count Metroplex or Grand Maximus.
Posted by shajaki on May 17th, 2018 @ 6:34pm CDT
Its either fear or laziness holding me back from the task. Not sure whichCobotron wrote:Maybe it's time I finally count them.
Honestly, I'd be surprised if I broke the 1,000 mark...
Posted by dryxler on May 17th, 2018 @ 8:03pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:16pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:25pm CDT
kurthy wrote:william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Maybe it's time I finally count them.
People ask all the time, but I've never taken a head count.
I think maybe I don't want to know.
I know I don't want to know, because then my wife will know.
Also begs the question of how to count? Do you count by how it was packaged or individual robot modes? Example would be UW Menasor as one but CW Menasor as six and CW G2 Menasor as one.
Then there's issues like headmasters, targetmasters, SS Blackout, and don't get me started on the different ways to count Metroplex or Grand Maximus.
I have everything cataloged in a Google spreadsheet. I try to be consistent and use common sense. To me I consider UW and CW as the same when counting, and it works for me. I don't consider the heads of TR figures separate cuz that's just nuts. I'm sure everyone has an opinion on all this.
Posted by fenrir72 on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:43pm CDT
So the current record is 1000 +?
Anyways, China......from the toys to the movies, especially the latter though floundering, is the movie market's only saving grace (TLK......barff)!
Toys on the other hand, China IS the "one" in terms of TF product macro consumption!
Posted by Zobovor on May 17th, 2018 @ 10:25pm CDT
Va'al wrote:what is claimed to be the Guinness World Record beating Transformers collection - currently recorded at 1000 figures
I photodocumented my collection in 2008 and I had around 1500 Transformers. Suffice to say, I've bought a few more in the last ten years. (I know mine couldn't possibly be the biggest collection because there's a lot of stuff I've skipped.)
Posted by President-prime on May 17th, 2018 @ 11:01pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on May 18th, 2018 @ 1:16pm CDT
In my application, I provided this description for them
Ryan Yzquierdo wrote:There are many fans around the world that have far more than 1,000 Transformers toys. I've been collecting for 34 years non-stop. I probably have close to 7,000 or 8,000, though I've never actually counted my collection. I do not own unlicensed Transformers products like the "current" record hold does. My collection is entirely legit Hasbro or Takara Tomy licensed Transformers products. I am the owner of Seibertron.com, one of the world's largest Transformers fansites, which has been around for 18 years. At a minimum, I have photographed galleries on Seibertron.com for over 4,200 individual Transformers toys (most of which is from my personal collection) which you can view at https://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/galleries/ ... which I have claimed for years is the world's largest collection of Transformers galleries. I'm not really interested in claiming that my collection is the "largest", I'm just disappointed that Guinness didn't do easy due diligence to verify that the current record holder's claim was valid. Looking forward to talking with someone from Guinness in the near future.
For those of you saying "well why don't you submit something to Guinness if you think you have a larger collection?" to users claiming they have a larger collection, here's why ... it's a pain-in-the-ass time consuming process just to get some bragging rights that apparently aren't worth a lot since Guinness actually doesn't verify the claim, so I'll give the current record holder credit for actually going through with all of this.
Guinness World Records wrote:You are almost there! But before you continue please read below, where you will find the General Rules and evidence requirements for all records in this category. These rules are there for you to better understand the record you are applying for. By clicking Continue at the bottom of the page you will submit your application to Guinness World Records. If you think you are unable to follow all the rules and provide all the evidence below, then please go back and choose a different record. If your application is accepted you will receive a full Guidelines pack, including ALL specific points relating to this record. You cannot attempt a record until you have received a full Guidelines Pack.
'largest collection' records
Please make sure you follow ALL these rules: a. The assessment of the collection must take place in a public place or in a venue open to public inspection. b. The collection must be assessed and counted by two independent witnesses at least one of whom must be a representative from a relevant, established and recognized society specializing in the subject area of the collection submitted. c. The record is based on the total number of different individual items in the collection. d. Duplicates will not be counted. e. If items are usually paired (i.e. earrings or cufflinks) the number of matching pairs must be given.
Please make sure you supply the following evidence: • One cover letter must be submitted providing full details of the person attempting the record, including details on age, nationality, background and a brief history of when (year) and why the collection began. It is also of interest to know where the collection is housed and if there is a particular favourite, giving reasons why. Please also indicate the date, time and exact location of the counting process, your chosen witnesses and your final record attempt measurement. • Two witness statements confirming the exact number of items in the collection, that the guidelines above have been adhered to and that all the items in the collection are relevant to the subject matter. The witnesses must list the points that they have verified during the attempt. • A concise, clear and audited inventory must be submitted for all claims. This may come in the form of a spreadsheet or log book. The total number of items in the collection must be clearly stated on this inventory, which must be counter-signed by the two witnesses. • Photographic evidence of all the items of the collections, individually or in groups, should provide evidence to confirm the size of the collection. • Video evidence of the person counting the collection showing the objects being counted to confirm the final number of the collection. • Schedule 2 should be signed by you when you are sending in evidence which you either own or have permission to allow Guinness World Records to use. • If you include any photographs or video in your evidence which you do not own or have permission to allow Guinness World Records to use, then you must include Schedule 3. • Media articles (newspaper, online, TV or radio) should be submitted as part of the evidence requirements. This is not compulsory evidence. Please read the Guide to Your Evidence document, where you will find further information about the evidence requirements and evidence templates. It is paramount this document is read before you submit your evidence.
My biggest disappointment is that Guinness didn't really do any follow up to verify the current record holders claim. I don't think that I have the world's largest collection either, but I sure as heck have a lot more than 1,000.
For the record, I submitted my collection as 5,000 because of this ...
Duplicates will not be counted. e. If items are usually paired (i.e. earrings or cufflinks) the number of matching pairs must be given.
I have no idea if they would consider reissues as separate counts, or how they would handle Hasbro and Takara variants, or how they would handle Micromaster and Mini-Con/Micron teams, Combiner Wars gift sets, G1 Cassettes (which were sold in the US as pairs but in Japan individually), etc. I consider Victorion as 6 Transformers toys, but they might only consider it as 1, but I would argue that Combiner Wars Defensor is 6 figures, but they were all sold individually whereas Victorion was only ever sold as a set, so who knows how all of that shakes down.
Posted by Emerje on May 20th, 2018 @ 1:40am CDT
I guess that guy from the video got away with several of the stipulations simply by luck. His office may be considered a public space and he probably has had media coverage before. Gotta get cracking on that museum, Ryan.
Emerje
Posted by Lore Keeper on May 20th, 2018 @ 4:28pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I think the worst part is the obvious fluff stipulations like what your favorite is and why, what does that have to do with the size of your collection? I can understand some of this since there's a chance that a group of friends could get together and claim their collections are a single collection.
I guess that guy from the video got away with several of the stipulations simply by luck. His office may be considered a public space and he probably has had media coverage before. Gotta get cracking on that museum, Ryan.
Emerje
This is actually a dream I have, owning a museum showcasing every aspect of the toy franchise. Not a very practical dream, but a dream nonetheless.
Posted by Beardy on May 21st, 2018 @ 5:13am CDT
ausbot wrote:Why get them to beat a record? Very uninspiring.
The previous record number was uninspiring.
And the video / interview is heavily edited.
The main reason for his collection is that he loves the figures, otherwise there are easier titles to attain if it's glory hunting Louis is after.
I think it's funny that no one bothered to officially claim the title and are now whining about the amount.
If people really care about that - all they have to do is submit and get the record.
Louis is a stand out fellow and some of these comments on here and other sites about him range from amusing to just plain out of order.
Posted by joevill on May 23rd, 2018 @ 9:20pm CDT
Posted by X3ROhour on May 27th, 2018 @ 12:22am CDT
Seibertron wrote:Rated X wrote:ScottyP wrote:One day the person with the actual largest collection will go public with it and I look forward to seeing it. It's not mine, by a long shot!
Neat seeing someone's collection though.
If Guinness says this is the largest collection why would you dispute them?
Because it's not the biggest, not by a long shot. I have a far larger collection, and I doubt even mine is the largest. I've estimated for years that I own around 8,000+ Transformers. Over 4,000 of which I have photographed for this site. When you've been obsessively collecting only Transformers primarily for 34 years, 1,000 Transformers is an extremely easy number to surpass.
True, true!
I didn't think that 1000 pieces was even close to a world record.
I have 11 totes (I'm in the processes of moving) pluss whatever I have loose. That's gotta be more than 1000! I've been collecting since 1984. It makes for an exhaust load of plastic crack!