BotCon 2011 Box Set - Animated Motormaster Revealed

Seibertron wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Oh wow, look at that head sculpt.

That looks horrible. I had so hoped that my source was wrong. Hopefully it looks better in person. Really wish they had used Wreck-Gar.

* sigh *

TeenTianswhat?

It almost looks like his face is just painted onto the flat side of his boxy head. Really hope that's not the case.

I can see a head swap coming for this one.

That is soooooooo wrong looking....

But the body color is cool and all.

Goldbug794 wrote:It almost looks like his face is just painted onto the flat side of his boxy head. Really hope that's not the case.

Ya, it does look like that. But I am pretty confident it just looks that way in the photo. The black on the sides of his face really obscure any depth.

Seibertron wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Oh wow, look at that head sculpt.

That looks horrible. I had so hoped that my source was wrong. Hopefully it looks better in person. Really wish they had used Wreck-Gar.

* sigh *

^This x 1000

Wreck-Gar was the more appropriate mold to use. I know people whined about his neck, but if FP can do 2007's Thrust Wings, they could have changed that too.

Just like if we're getting that supposed Toxitron, I'd rather have the Wreck-Gar mold for that figure as well. It fits the name so much better with a garbage truck rather than a fire truck.

Maybe, the head on Motormaster would look a bit better if they would have sculpted the square outside portion as a helmet, rather than an actual part of the head. I dunno.

I think Yuck on all these repaints

I appreaciate what botcon does (sometimes) without being a member but....

I agree with you Ryan.

think the deluxe prime would've looked better. still say its to early for an animated botcon set you can still find all of these molds in stores & since theres very little remolding, they're not really all that special.

I think everyone was expecting a repaint of Animated Optimus Prime so it's no surprise. But I can't get past that head module remold. That box-looking remold is horrendous.

Yup, just like myself and several others figured. So we've got, essentially, a Shattered Glass TFA Voyager Prime with a swapped head that just barely surpasses 2 dimensional face detailing, that makes the team leader for a combiner team that actually doesn't combine, and this is the exclusive set for the biggest annual convention devoted to Transformers held on the face of God's green earth? I'm just a touch underwhelmed. Granted, I still like it more than most of the DotM toys I've seen but I still think that, after some of our past Convention sets, that the bar would be just a little bit higher. Just my opinion, everyone has their own tastes and for those of you that like this years offering, I'm genuinely happy for you but this one just isn't quite my cup of tea.

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When I look at the other figures in this set, their repaints/remolds make them look like entirely different characters. Motormaster looks like a Prime repaint that someone broke the head off of, and then stuck a lego block in there to look like a head.

This set is so very, very underwhelming, IMHO. I used to try and find these exclusives, but the recent ones just aren't worth it. I'm not even gonna go into box for a head Motormaster they've put out. I'm sorry, this is just horrible...

he's a dick in a box.

Wow......Motor Master really sucks. Figures they go the Optimus Prime repaint route. That head would look fine if it was on Wreckgar, but it just looks stupid on Primes body.

Lord Onixprime wrote:That head would look fine if it was on Wreckgar, but it just looks stupid on Primes body.

Ya, but then he'd be a garbage truck, not a semi...

HELL YEAH! NOW THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! WOOT! WHEN CAN I SIGN UP!??!

Jesterhead wrote:

Lord Onixprime wrote:That head would look fine if it was on Wreckgar, but it just looks stupid on Primes body.

Ya, but then he'd be a garbage truck, not a semi...

He still isn't a Semi, he is a fire truck.

craggy wrote:he's a dick in a box.

Gotta love Mother Lovin'. Hilarious stuff indeed.

Oh Motormaster, http://nooooooooooooooo.com/. The paint job looks great, that head is all wrong for the body though. I don't see why Wreck-Gar couldn't have been used. The body would have worked better all around and less resculpting would have been necessary for a new head/face. The chest windows just look kinda stupid. I actually kinda wish that they'd just gone wild with these guys now that we've seen em all. This isn't G1, why only gamble on the one figure (Drag Strip)?

Lord Onixprime wrote:

Jesterhead wrote:

Lord Onixprime wrote:That head would look fine if it was on Wreckgar, but it just looks stupid on Primes body.

Ya, but then he'd be a garbage truck, not a semi...

He still isn't a Semi, he is a fire truck.

Wreck-Gar without a remolded head sans garbage truck forklifts would have been the absolutely 100% correct choice for this without a doubt. They could have even gone the extra mile to give us a new Motormaster head on the Wreck-Gar body to make it a little more unique and everyone still would have been happy.



Who's got a few minutes to do a quick digital mockup of Wreck-Gar in these colors as Motormaster? I wish I knew how to do that easily in Photoshop.

This set is just poorly thought out.

They could have saved us the whole "drag queen" Drag Strip fiasco by calling the Dead End or Breakdown body "Drag Strip" and calling the Arcee mold one of those characters. Dead End would've been my first choice. That Arcee mold would have looked awesome in Dead End's colors (black and red). But instead, they went the typical fan boy route and gave us some fun immature drag queen innuendos instead (couldn't have called the Arcee mold "Wildrider" for innuendo reasons also).

I still think that the Blurr mold would've been the best Drag Strip usage. Because they're giving us TFA Cheetor, having the Blurr mold colored yellow again was decided against ... but I don't really recall anyone clamoring for a TFA Cheetor so maybe they should have done something different with those molds, or swapped the Arcee mold out of the BotCon set, used the Blurr mold for Drag Strip, and then given us Paradron Medic or something desirable out of the Arcee mold as a Club exclusive. Ah, what am I talking about? That would make too much sense.

I really wish they'd stop going out of their way to not do what they did in 2007. The BotCon 2006 and 2007 sets were two of the most well thought out and fan wank sets imaginable. Those sets were what convention sets should be all about.

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I love everything about the new coloring except for the head. I would have rather that they just used the base head design for the G1 toy without the box look.

One plus to this is that I now know how I'm going to make my combiner parts. Since I've got most of these lying around the house, I should be able to start working on making something that will help these figures combine.

I'm gonna get a Menasor out of this set if it kill me!

Seibertron wrote:They could have saved us the whole "drag queen" Drag Strip fiasco by calling the Dead End or Breakdown body "Drag Strip" and calling the Arcee mold one of those characters. Dead End would've been my first choice. That Arcee mold would have looked awesome in Dead End's colors (black and red). But instead, they went the typical fan boy route and gave us some fun immature drag queen innuendos instead (couldn't have called the Arcee mold "Wildrider" for innuendo reasons also).

My only issue with that would have been that Drag Strip was a F1 car, while Dead End, Breakdown, and Wildrider were all street legal cars. Flip that over to the animated 'verse, and Arcee's cybertronian car fits the bill of a F1 car much, much better than Jazz, Rodimus, or Lockdown with their Earth mode styled bodies.

Seibertron wrote:Who's got a few minutes to do a quick digital mockup of Wreck-Gar in these colors as Motormaster? I wish I knew how to do that easily in Photoshop.

Vanishing Point already did one, and it looks great!

If the forks were gone/retooled, then ya, it would be a way better Motormaster...

Vanishing Point wrote:I did a quick digibash of what I would do for Motormaster

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Vanishing Point wrote:I did a quick digibash of what I would do for Motormaster

That's closer to what I'm thinking of ... but needs some more TLC. It definitely looks better than Optimus Prime with a brick head for Motormaster.



Maybe it's because the BotCon Motormaster is black instead of grey. I think he would've looked better as a grey truck with black legs to match closer to the original design cues on the character. They took the cues too literally from alt mode.

I'm disappointed they went with the predictable Optimus Prime redeco, but I think they did a good job Animated-ising his head.

bluecatcinema wrote:I'm disappointed they went with the predictable Optimus Prime redeco, but I think they did a good job Animated-ising his head.

I actually don't have a problem with that head. I just have a problem with that head on that body.

Head is a little too boxy, but it still looks amazing!

This looks awesome ...



This looks horrible ...



Some things are not meant to translate well. Wyatt had a great idea, but it doesn't work with the actual Prime body.

head belongs on a Wreck-Gar body, boooooooo

Jesterhead wrote:My only issue with that would have been that Drag Strip was a F1 car, while Dead End, Breakdown, and Wildrider were all street legal cars. Flip that over to the animated 'verse, and Arcee's cybertronian car fits the bill of a F1 car much, much better than Jazz, Rodimus, or Lockdown with their Earth mode styled bodies.

And maybe that's what someone was thinking. I for one could care less about that and am more interested in the silhouette. I guess Blurr's alt mode screams dragster with those big ass wheels far more than Arcee's Cybertronian vehicle mode. Unfortunately, our discussion just further proves the dilemma the BotCon folks face with each of these decisions since you can't please everyone all the time.

One could argue that that's not Motormaster's original body, rather his second after his original body was destroyed by Oil Slick's Cosmic Rust. That way the head not matching the style of body makes sense, especially considering heads can be easily transplanted in Animated (see the Headmaster episodes).

Man, you could tell that Dead End was the first one revealed for a reason, it's clearly the best of the bunch.

Makes me feel better about not being able to go this year. I forsee a lot of these sets on eBay.

Oi!

Not what I was expecting at all. That's the worst head of the bunch really. Although the colourscheme is really nice.

I dig it!

Predictable, yes, but he looks neat to me.

I'm a bit iffy on Dragstrip, and I think Wildrider looks TOO MUCH like a Lockdown redeco, and not an actual different character. But I like Motormaster, Brakedown and Dead End.

I really feel that Wreck-gar WOULD have been better, with a retooled head and removed forks, he could have passed for an actual box-truck.

But they are 3 for 5 with me, and the other 2 are still OK.

If it had been up to me I would have made different choices for base characters, but que serra serra.

I feel like this set will go the way of Shattered Glass and other botcon sets. 90% of fans hate it right now. 2 - 3 years from now, Motormaster will be going for $400 on ebay like Shattered Glass Prime.

I love Motormaster's mustache!

The set overall looks good, but individually some of the toys have flaws. I think most people have already summed up the problems with Motormaster, but for me the Optimus Prime body is too slender for the tough, hardened character of Motormaster. Now I guess its time to predict the souvenir sets... I call Autotroopers, Cliffjumper, Ramjet and Sideswipe.

OlivusPrime wrote:The set overall looks good, but individually some of the toys have flaws. I think most people have already summed up the problems with Motormaster, but for me the Optimus Prime body is too slender for the tough, hardened character of Motormaster. Now I guess its time to predict the souvenir sets... I call Autotroopers, Cliffjumper, Ramjet and Sideswipe.

Did you see the ones that we posted from our anonymous source?

How about this mockup image that TFW's Blitz posted on TFW2005.com?



That is pure win in my book.

Looks seriously awesome!

I'm a big fan of the what BotCon decided to do, but that is total win!

I have always been a fan of the stunticons and enjoyed the Animated series...but yikes. Not impressed at all with these figures. They got the colors right and all but they are not convincing me to spend all that money on the box set, a hotel, and flights across the country!

Blurrz wrote:Motormaster has always been a semi. This mold makes him a semi. Problem solved.

It makes him a black and purple firetruck. Taking the forklifts off Wreck-Gar would've turned him into a semi-truck with a trailer.

i want these guys, gonna definatly have to order the non attendee package

so close to ordering a non-attendee package after i missed out on shattered glass but.... meh!

this has no appeal to me at all now. I'll stick to my e-hobby united figures as my big purchase of the year. Id rather blow a few hundred on SG Prime or Rodimus (just to legitimise my shadow scyther purchase) than order this.

Wreck Gar repaint cudda swung me, but they just dont look that cool to me. Wildrider looks more G2 (bright and annoying) than badass.

Damn FP, so close to awesome yet so far

I have to say....not so upset I'm not getting these. Motormasters head, while resembling G1 cartoon M.M. is a complete Whisky Tango Foxtrot. I get the box shape "It's how the animators designed it in the G1 cartoon because the toy had a massive box-top with no shoulders or neck." I get it, but I don't want it. I LOVE GENERATION 1, but these figures remind me of a low budget toy line about a group of gender confused Mexican wrestlers. Vehicle mode, they did well. Colors, again, well done. Overall awesomeness: Not as much as I have come to expect from Botcon exclusives.

Uhhhhhh........... Definitely NOT what I was expecting... And to make it even more weirder, he has one of those truck-driver goatees. Ok, that was probably coming, since he does transform into a truck... just not a firetruck...

meh. i like what we got. save for arcee as dragstrip. again, why no blurr?