BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review

Monday, January 16th, 2012 10:02PM CST

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Full Metal Hero's Stripe has gotten his hands on the BotCon exclusive HFTD Voyager Sea Spray repaint, Shattered Glass Otcopunch, and posted a pictorial review. Click here to view the rest of Stripe's images and read his review of the figure.

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Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334659)
Posted by LiKwid on January 16th, 2012 @ 10:06pm CST

Quack Quack Quack! LoL... Meh Looks good. Maybe if the green was a tad darker but all in all it's nice..

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334663)
Posted by Blurrz on January 16th, 2012 @ 10:18pm CST

WUT THE DUCK IS GOING ON

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334665)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2012 @ 10:20pm CST

Wow! That looks MUCH better than before. These pics justify a purchase of it for me.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334668)
Posted by MGrotusque on January 16th, 2012 @ 10:45pm CST

Yeah....what is going on with those ducks! They should have made the windows blue and left it at that. At least the windows are in the same vicinity as the tubes on the original.

'sigh'.....Failure.....IMO :roll:

EDIT: and yes.....clearly they are not meant to be ducks but they SURE AS HELL LOOK LIKE DUCKS!

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334670)
Posted by Rated X on January 16th, 2012 @ 10:57pm CST

Looks good, I like it. But if it is indeed meant to be shattered glass, shouldnt it be SG Seaspray AKA Octopunch ??? Kinda like SG Tracks AKA Road Rage ???

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334673)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2012 @ 11:02pm CST

Rated X wrote:Looks good, I like it. But if it is indeed meant to be shattered glass, shouldnt it be SG Seaspray AKA Octopunch ??? Kinda like SG Tracks AKA Road Rage ???

Cuz there's already a SG Seaspray (whose design is repurposed from movie Storm Surge).

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334675)
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on January 16th, 2012 @ 11:10pm CST

Can't....stop....laughing at ducks.....

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334676)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on January 16th, 2012 @ 11:11pm CST

Ohp, seems like someones grill is only half painted blue.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334677)
Posted by DISCHARGE on January 16th, 2012 @ 11:13pm CST

He definitely looks more Classics than Shattered Glass, I think Deep Dive looks the best of the three.
Also think they should have made the blue paint symmetrical on the abdomen

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334680)
Posted by dedcat on January 16th, 2012 @ 11:21pm CST

I'm suddenly a bit upset I passed on Deep Dive.

Also, quack.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334681)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2012 @ 11:30pm CST

DISCHARGE wrote:He definitely looks more Classics than Shattered Glass,

Well, there are a handful of SG characters who, instead of having familiar bodies with reverse colors, have different bodies with familiar colors. Galvatron, Jazz, Alpha Trion, etc.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334682)
Posted by dinogeist on January 16th, 2012 @ 11:43pm CST

Personally,this botcon 2012 octopunch is the worst colored of the trio.

I sincerly doubt the rumored octopunch new head sculpt is gonna save this figure being all kinds of horrible.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334684)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2012 @ 11:48pm CST

TigerMegatron wrote:I sincerly doubt the rumored octopunch new head sculpt is gonna save this figure being all kinds of horrible.

What are you talking about? This is the final product. These images clearly show that there is no new headsculpt.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334691)
Posted by DISCHARGE on January 17th, 2012 @ 12:28am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:He definitely looks more Classics than Shattered Glass,
Well, there are a handful of SG characters who, instead of having familiar bodies with reverse colors, have different bodies with familiar colors. Galvatron, Jazz, Alpha Trion, etc.

I see your point, but for me at least, the use of alternate colors sticks out more as a SG theme than the use of a previously unused alt mode. Using the base colors of a character with a new alt mode is done on a regular basis with the onset of many new lines. In the end though I really don't care, aren't too many SG figures I like anyway.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334702)
Posted by kevinblevins on January 17th, 2012 @ 12:39am CST

I think it's hilarious that we're seeing a convention exclusive before all the box set figures have been fully revealed.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334705)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2012 @ 12:41am CST

kevinblevins wrote:I think it's hilarious that we're seeing a convention exclusive before all the box set figures have been fully revealed.

We've already seen Metalhawk in the BotCon registration.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334722)
Posted by zodconvoy on January 17th, 2012 @ 1:16am CST

Since there are more pictures of the actual toy to talk about, I made a new thread in the Scratch Build Forum for the helmet I'm working on. Tell me what you think!

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334734)
Posted by Mkall on January 17th, 2012 @ 2:28am CST

I think I'm just going to slap some reprolabels on him and call him Classics.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334742)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 17th, 2012 @ 3:11am CST

so why did they decide to use the shell design for the figure instead of using the actual robot?

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334745)
Posted by Dead Metal on January 17th, 2012 @ 3:28am CST

Megatron Wolf wrote:so why did they decide to use the shell design for the figure instead of using the actual robot?

Because that's the most iconic part of him, plus all Pretender homages have been based off of the shell.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334777)
Posted by Scaleface on January 17th, 2012 @ 5:36am CST

Dead Metal wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:so why did they decide to use the shell design for the figure instead of using the actual robot?

Because that's the most iconic part of him, plus all Pretender homages have been based off of the shell.

Except deluxe Bludgeon SG Bludgeon and SG Submarauder.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334780)
Posted by Delicon on January 17th, 2012 @ 5:41am CST

My wife will like this figure solely for the bright colors and duck tentacles, you could have named him anything.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334800)
Posted by Deathsanras on January 17th, 2012 @ 7:38am CST

Cannot...

unsee...

ducks.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334804)
Posted by GuyIncognito on January 17th, 2012 @ 7:51am CST

I'm not familiar with all the Transformers fiction. Can someone explain the "ducks" thing to me?

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334808)
Posted by RiddlerJ on January 17th, 2012 @ 8:11am CST

Maybe the tentacles looking like ducks is intentional, because he's a good guy.

Ducktopunch.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334810)
Posted by Delicon on January 17th, 2012 @ 8:17am CST

GuyIncognito wrote:I'm not familiar with all the Transformers fiction. Can someone explain the "ducks" thing to me?

They're not supposed to be ducks, unless someone was making an inside joke. They are tentactles that just happen to look like ducks.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334817)
Posted by Dead Metal on January 17th, 2012 @ 8:40am CST

Delicon wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:I'm not familiar with all the Transformers fiction. Can someone explain the "ducks" thing to me?

They're not supposed to be ducks, unless someone was making an inside joke. They are tentactles that just happen to look like ducks.

I think I like the explanation someone else said earlier in the thread better than the ducks one, it looks like two tentacles fondle his nipples.

Scaleface wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:so why did they decide to use the shell design for the figure instead of using the actual robot?

Because that's the most iconic part of him, plus all Pretender homages have been based off of the shell.

Except deluxe Bludgeon SG Bludgeon and SG Submarauder.

I believe you're talking about the ROTF repaint of Wreackage?
That doesn't refference the shell due to not being meant as an update of the original character, while the Voyager version was designed as a Classics version of the character.
SG Bludgeon is just a purpose of RID Bludgeon and ment as a nice nod to that incarnation of the character. I give you that on Submarauder though.

Also another reason why they homaged the shell with this one is the simple fact that, there is no toy that turns into a crab in any of the recent toy-lines, which they limited themselves to.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334828)
Posted by Rated X on January 17th, 2012 @ 9:09am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:He definitely looks more Classics than Shattered Glass,
Well, there are a handful of SG characters who, instead of having familiar bodies with reverse colors, have different bodies with familiar colors. Galvatron, Jazz, Alpha Trion, etc.

The Botcon 2007 Alpha Trion figure was not classified as "Shattered Glass". The SG concept came out a year later in 2008. Now if they started using SG stories in the comics before Botcon 2008, I honestly wouldnt know.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334830)
Posted by Rated X on January 17th, 2012 @ 9:14am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:Looks good, I like it. But if it is indeed meant to be shattered glass, shouldnt it be SG Seaspray AKA Octopunch ??? Kinda like SG Tracks AKA Road Rage ???
Cuz there's already a SG Seaspray (whose design is repurposed from movie Storm Surge).

TF wiki says Storm Surge is a Target exclusive, not a Botcon exclusive. Since I have never read the comic, are you saying Target based this repaint on a SG character ???

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334831)
Posted by Blurrz on January 17th, 2012 @ 9:19am CST

Rated X wrote:The Botcon 2007 Alpha Trion figure was not classified as "Shattered Glass". The SG concept came out a year later in 2008. Now if they started using SG stories in the comics before Botcon 2008, I honestly wouldnt know.

Rated X wrote:TF wiki says Storm Surge is a Target exclusive, not a Botcon exclusive. Since I have never read the comic, are you saying Target based this repaint on a SG character ???

Rather both those figures and many others were repurposed into SG fiction.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334840)
Posted by zodconvoy on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:04am CST

Here's a list of repurposed Heroic Decepticons and one of Evil Autobots.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334845)
Posted by Delicon on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:27am CST

zodconvoy wrote:Here's a list of repurposed Heroic Decepticons and one of Evil Autobots.

Not exactly a fluid read.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334847)
Posted by GetRightRobot on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:30am CST

You know, seeing him next to G1 Octopunch, Ducktopunch doesn't seem so bad. I don't see any indication of SG other than the red Decepticon logo, which for me, is a good thing. Slap a real Decepticon logo on him and we have ourselves and acceptable classics Pretender.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334852)
Posted by Tigertrack on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:45am CST

I may get him. He's looking decent. Especially if he is paired with the right 'other toy'.

But the ducks need to come off...

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334854)
Posted by DISCHARGE on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:49am CST

zodconvoy wrote:Here's a list of repurposed Heroic Decepticons and one of Evil Autobots.

Doesn't mean a whole lot to re-purpose Autobots and Decepticons into a theme if people don't read the media or even care about the theme.

I don't buy it anyway, Shattered Glass needs to follow the basic themes, and one of them is swapping the colors of the factions. I mean these go back as far as Beast Machines Tigertron? WTF!? That's garbage. Basically you can just say that any recolor is Shattered Glass and BOOM! you got yourself an army of evil Autobots.

In media I'm fine with, that's laying down some mythology for people to read in to. But as official toys, I may be old school, when the corporate suits have their Chinese orphans working 18 hours a day stamp or sticker or however they wanna do it, a Transformer is labeled that faction 4Life.

If people want to take toys out of their own collection and re-purpose that's fine too, do what you want with your toys, but all of a sudden Fun Pub wants to write them into a story and they are officially Shattered Glass toys, it's just gonna cause headaches.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334856)
Posted by Marcdachamp on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:52am CST

Once you see the ducks, you really can't unsee them. :lol:

Still, this is a pretty solid repaint. They really nailed the colors.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334875)
Posted by Andrius on January 17th, 2012 @ 11:41am CST

Marcdachamp wrote:Once you see the ducks, you really can't unsee them.

Makes me think of this:

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334883)
Posted by GuyIncognito on January 17th, 2012 @ 12:06pm CST

O, I C D ducks! M R ducks!

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334963)
Posted by El Duque on January 17th, 2012 @ 4:01pm CST

Once you see the duck there really is no unseeing them. How on Earth did the designer of that deco not see them?

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1334965)
Posted by zodconvoy on January 17th, 2012 @ 4:06pm CST

DISCHARGE wrote:
zodconvoy wrote:Here's a list of repurposed Heroic Decepticons and one of Evil Autobots.

Doesn't mean a whole lot to re-purpose Autobots and Decepticons into a theme if people don't read the media or even care about the theme.

I don't buy it anyway, Shattered Glass needs to follow the basic themes, and one of them is swapping the colors of the factions. I mean these go back as far as Beast Machines Tigertron? WTF!? That's garbage. Basically you can just say that any recolor is Shattered Glass and BOOM! you got yourself an army of evil Autobots.

In media I'm fine with, that's laying down some mythology for people to read in to. But as official toys, I may be old school, when the corporate suits have their Chinese orphans working 18 hours a day stamp or sticker or however they wanna do it, a Transformer is labeled that faction 4Life.

If people want to take toys out of their own collection and re-purpose that's fine too, do what you want with your toys, but all of a sudden Fun Pub wants to write them into a story and they are officially Shattered Glass toys, it's just gonna cause headaches.

FunPub isn't changing anything about the original intent Hasbro had for the toy or character. They're offering existing fill-ins for characters they know they aren't going to get to. Plus, if they use a character in a prose story, readers are naturally going to want to know what the character looks like and some are going to want to put one on display with the real Shattered Glass figures. So they have two choices: create a character with no toy and be called bastards for not giving people the, say, Shattered Glass Huffer they want or say that the black version of Armorhide (who they already used as Huffer themselves) was evil Huffer and move on with their lives.

It doesn't change the original toy, it just gives the option to the people who want it.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335031)
Posted by Mkall on January 17th, 2012 @ 6:56pm CST

zodconvoy wrote:It doesn't change the original toy, it just gives the option to the people who want it.

Aye, if it wasn't for some of their SG characterisations, I would not have gotten some figures.

Black Huffer is an awesome figure

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335042)
Posted by DISCHARGE on January 17th, 2012 @ 7:57pm CST

Mkall wrote:
zodconvoy wrote:It doesn't change the original toy, it just gives the option to the people who want it.

Aye, if it wasn't for some of their SG characterisations, I would not have gotten some figures.

Black Huffer is an awesome figure

Maybe I'm not reading your post right, but it sounds like you wouldn't have been interested in the toy if someone else hadn't been able to give you the insight of what it could be. And regardless of how good said toy is you would never know with out the re-purposing.

Has it really come down to a group like Fun Pub to tell us what is what in the toy collective? It's one thing when fans and TF forum posters express what they do with toys from a past line. When Fun Pub does it they are just messing with continuity. Like I said, maybe I'm just looking at it from an old school perspective.
Using a Universe connotation is one thing, or even Timelines, to encompass all Transformers into one big collective or mythos. But when you use the clubs Jetfire repaint Astrotrain and say it is now Shattered Glass it gets a little confusing and pointless, what with a huge purple Con tag stamped on his bay doors. So now he is Shattered Glass Shattered Glass where the opposite is the opposite of the opposite? (meaning that the tag colors would not be reversed they would stay the same, but the moral grounds they stand on would still be the opposite ie: Evil Autobots-red\Heroic Decepticons-purple)

zodconvoy wrote: So they have two choices: create a character with no toy and be called bastards for not giving people the, say, Shattered Glass Huffer they want or say that the black version of Armorhide (who they already used as Huffer themselves) was evil Huffer and move on with their lives.

By not using a character that exists in a previous line it allows them to build upon their own idea of Shattered Glass\Timelines and offer them as actual club offerings in terms of repaints exclusive to club members and convention attendees. Something that the club should recognize for themselves.
All re-purposing does is help fuel the ebay sales of the listed re-purposed figures and give people generic Shattered glass figures in their collections.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335068)
Posted by Rated X on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:16pm CST

Wow you guys are digging a little too deep into the whole Shattered Glass concept. I hope some guy from Funpub isnt reading these posts and saying give em more repaints because they cant get enough of them on the forums. I have a couple KO shattered glass figures that I use as "Cybertronian Decpeticons". I dont really like the SG concept because it just seems too "comic bookish" to be used on the big screen or a TV mini-series.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335071)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:30pm CST

Rated X wrote:Wow you guys are digging a little too deep into the whole Shattered Glass concept. I hope some guy from Funpub isnt reading these posts and saying give em more repaints because they cant get enough of them on the forums. I have a couple KO shattered glass figures that I use as "Cybertronian Decpeticons". I dont really like the SG concept because it just seems too "comic bookish" to be used on the big screen or a TV mini-series.

Well, had Animated gone into its fourth season, there would have been a Shattered Glass-themed episode with Bulkhead and Sari winding up in the SG Animated universe. We probably would have seen these people in said episode:

And the the whole concept seems to have originated with the Mirror Universe of Star Trek (a TV series).

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335074)
Posted by El Duque on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:44pm CST

So if I grow a fu manchu I can become Shattered Glass El Duque? Interesting...............

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335077)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:49pm CST

I don't collect SG but what I wouldn't give to have a figure of that SG Animated Optimus Prime.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335078)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:51pm CST

LOST Cybertronian wrote:I don't collect SG but what I wouldn't give to have a figure of that SG Animated Optimus Prime.

There's also Megatron and Swindle, but we don't know what they look like.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335079)
Posted by Mkall on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:51pm CST

DISCHARGE wrote:
Mkall wrote:
zodconvoy wrote:It doesn't change the original toy, it just gives the option to the people who want it.

Aye, if it wasn't for some of their SG characterisations, I would not have gotten some figures.

Black Huffer is an awesome figure

Maybe I'm not reading your post right, but it sounds like you wouldn't have been interested in the toy if someone else hadn't been able to give you the insight of what it could be. And regardless of how good said toy is you would never know with out the re-purposing.

Nope, that's an accurate statement. I was high after Botcon '08 with Shattered Glass and wanted to increase the universe, I got and used the Black Huffer as well as other repaints to fill it. I had the Huffer mold from before with Botcon '07 Huffer and Cybertron Armorhide (My Classics Pipes) before so I know from experience what a good mold it is. I just didn't have the justification to get Black Huffer until SG came out.

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335083)
Posted by GetRightRobot on January 17th, 2012 @ 11:16pm CST

I like how facial hair is becoming a calling card of Shattered Glass. O M G, I just had a great idea for a custom! Shave my Armada Unicron's face, turn his horns down and color him like a pack Skittles! :lol:

Re: BotCon 2012 Octopunch Pictorial Review (1335085)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2012 @ 11:27pm CST

GetRightRobot wrote:I like how facial hair is becoming a calling card of Shattered Glass.

All thanks to Mirror Universe Spock.

GetRightRobot wrote: O M G, I just had a great idea for a custom! Shave my Armada Unicron's face, turn his horns down and color him like a pack Skittles!

Unicron cannot ever have an SG counterpart due to his being a Multiversal Singularity.

On a relate note, the SG Transformers never knew of Primus until Classics Cliffjumper told them about him, in which Primus was described to them as a benevolent creator.

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