BotCon 2013 Lithograph Revealed

Clever, making the jets look like the original MW toys. Especially the larger Starscream one look menacing.

That's a very cool spread. Wish the comic had used this art style.

loving the anime metal shine look. but whats with the air show?

griftimus prime wrote:loving the anime metal shine look. but whats with the air show?

If I saw an air show like that I'd be like *CENSORED*, as they're the Clones.

Well, that's definitely Hubcap and Mirage on the Left of Hoist and Thundercracker on the right of Skywarp.

I love how the disjointed-ness of the molds of this Botcon are what binds them together.

Classics for Mirage, and the Rainmakers
Generations for Hoist (and Electro), and Strika (and Blastcharge)
Revenge of the Fallen for Skywarp (and Thundercracker)
Autobot Alliance (Transformers 2010 toyline) for Obsidian, and Starscream
Dark of the Moon for Sandstorm
Prime: Robots in Disguise for Megaplex

The question is, with all these molds and figures...

What happened to Optimus, Megatron, Prowl, Hubcap and Soundwave? I haven't seen them confirmed at all. They're the only figures missing from the entire Machine Wars line.

I guess maybe Hubcap got his name changed to Electro though? Considering what Electro looks like?

Gearslide wrote:What happened to Optimus, Megatron, Prowl and Soundwave? I haven't seen them confirmed at all. They're the only figures missing from the entire Machine Wars line.

They most likely aren't receiving their own exclusives. But, despite the general dislike for such a move, I wouldn't mind seeing Soundwave from Reveal the Shield Perceptor.

Mindmaster wrote:

Gearslide wrote:What happened to Optimus, Megatron, Prowl and Soundwave? I haven't seen them confirmed at all. They're the only figures missing from the entire Machine Wars line.

They most likely aren't receiving their own exclusives. But, despite the general dislike for such a move, I wouldn't mind seeing Soundwave from Reveal the Shield Perceptor.

I would dig it. Would keep things in a nice scale, versus the behemoth that is Cybertron Red Alert.

Gearslide wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Gearslide wrote:What happened to Optimus, Megatron, Prowl and Soundwave? I haven't seen them confirmed at all. They're the only figures missing from the entire Machine Wars line.

They most likely aren't receiving their own exclusives. But, despite the general dislike for such a move, I wouldn't mind seeing Soundwave from Reveal the Shield Perceptor.

I would dig it. Would keep things in a nice scale, versus the behemoth that is Cybertron Red Alert.

Considering I don't even own that certain mold, I'd dig it as well.

As for Optimus and Megatron, if it were not for the limitations placed on Unicron Trilogy molds due to their usefulness wrought out, I would have suggested Energon Rodimus and Starscream, respectively.

Mindmaster wrote:

Gearslide wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Gearslide wrote:What happened to Optimus, Megatron, Prowl and Soundwave? I haven't seen them confirmed at all. They're the only figures missing from the entire Machine Wars line.

They most likely aren't receiving their own exclusives. But, despite the general dislike for such a move, I wouldn't mind seeing Soundwave from Reveal the Shield Perceptor.

I would dig it. Would keep things in a nice scale, versus the behemoth that is Cybertron Red Alert.

Considering I don't even own that certain mold, I'd dig it as well.

As for Optimus and Megatron, if it were not for the limitations placed on Unicron Trilogy molds due to their usefulness wrought out, I would have suggested Energon Rodimus and Starscream, respectively.

Thing is, for Megatron at least, as soon as I saw Megaplex, I kinda figured they would just use that mold painted differently for Bucket head, considering that Megaplex is his clone (Same thing with Prowl being an easy repaint from the Mirage mold they're already using).

As for Optimus, I could easily see the Beast Hunters Voyager Prime mold used for him. Just repaint all the blue bits Dark Grey, add some Grey to the front of the cab, nix the sword, and you have a great Machine Wars O.P. He even has the mouth and chunky legs that Machine Wars Prime had.

Well, in storyline, this is still the Wings Universe, which follows from the G1 cartoon to a certain extent. The pre-show announcement of the fiction mentioned that both Optimus Prime and Galvatron are offline when Megaplex and his clone army attack, so there weren't going to be Optimus and Megatron/Galvatron toys anyway.

That said, I really wish we'd had a Soundwave, but the lack of a new head means there really isn't anything viable to redeco. At least Terradive kind of looks like Machine Wars Starscream if you squint.

Though the original Hoist head looked vaguely Soundwave-ish. Its final production sample... not so much.

Henry921 wrote:Well, in storyline, this is still the Wings Universe, which follows from the G1 cartoon to a certain extent. The pre-show announcement of the fiction mentioned that both Optimus Prime and Galvatron are offline when Megaplex and his clone army attack, so there weren't going to be Optimus and Megatron/Galvatron toys anyway.

That said, I really wish we'd had a Soundwave, but the lack of a new head means there really isn't anything viable to redeco. At least Terradive kind of looks like Machine Wars Starscream if you squint.

Though the original Hoist head looked vaguely Soundwave-ish. Its final production sample... not so much.

Too bad they couldn't use the e-hobby Magnificus head mold with the Perceptor body for Soundwave. That might pass for slightly Soundwave-ish.

Gearslide wrote:Too bad they couldn't use the e-hobby Magnificus head mold with the Perceptor body for Soundwave. That might pass for slightly Soundwave-ish.

Maybe they still can. In a later, subsription service figure release.

For all those Seibertron.com users who are currently enjoying the BotCon experience, why not meet up with fellow board members, including site owner Ryan (aka Seibertron himself!) and News Admin El Duque.

People will be meeting at Charlie's, part of the Town and Country resort, all evening and into the night. So pop by to say hi, meet old acquantainces and make new friends who share the same passion as you!

When are folks heading over? 7? 8?

Someone needs to sneak up behind Soby for me, give him a big cuddly hug from behind and say "Burn says hi" in the creepiest voice possible.

Wish I could go. But any money I have would only cover the cost of getting there. Plus, I would not want to bore you guys with how my 2013 had me sell a chunk of my collection for more Encore pieces... And now selling my non-Headmaster stuff for more Headmasters.

But despite that... I hope you guys had fun.

Wish I could be there... but alas! Maybe next year. If only San Diego wasn't soooooo far away!

Alright, dumb question. Does anyone know about the current stock of souvenir sets or how I can find out if there are any left? Do you need to be pre-registered to pick some up? I'm planning to be there tomorrow (Saturday).

Seibertron was present at BotCon's Friday evening special Golden Ticket Reception at the Tiki Pavilion, which saw the likes of actor Glenn Morshower mingling with the fans and other guests. Take a look at the gallery here, or click on any of the images below!

Finally back, settled in, mostly unpacked, and on a computer!

Had a fantastic time! Many thanks to Joevill, Seibertron, El Duque, Agent Adam, James, the Captured Prey crew, Christian, and plenty of others whose names I don't remember because booze. No, seriously, that shit will make you forget stuff you never intended to forget.

It was a blast sharing stories, causing hijinx, and recording a... something? A podcast? Or a hilarious interlude to a future podcast? Either way, was a good time, but holy hell that will need some serious patience and editing

Thanks again for a great time everyone, it's been a long time since cops broke up a party I was at.