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* Generation One Krok from Generations IDW Megatron (sports a new head and comes with Gatoraider, a redeco of the crocodile Arms Micron)
* Generation 2 Starscream from (surprising nobody) Classics Starscream
* Nacelle from the Classics Seeker mold (regular Seeker noggin with BotCon 2007 Thrust's wings)
* Serpent O.R. from Takara's Generations Ratbat (who is G.I. Joe Serpentor homage and an homage to Devils Due Comics' GI Joe vs. the Transformers crossover series)
* Zap with G.B. Blackrock from Generations Bumblebee mold and is an homage to a canceled Block Town toy line that Takara was going to come out with in 1995. Blackrock is a Kreon companion for Zap.
* Tarantulas from the Junkion mold, and will be accompanied by Prime Airachnid's Arms Microns (possible Airachnoid homage?)
According to our team present at the panel, there will be a seventh mystery figure to be shipped with the sixth and final figure.
Check out the mock-ups of these figures below!
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Posted 3 days agoPosted by Midnight_Fox on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:24pm CDT
Posted by Zeedust on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT
ILL-Star wrote:Has anyone else realized that Chromia is a massive retooling of PRID Arcee?
I think it might be one of those similar designs with separate molds things, like how Energon Starscream is similar to G2 Smokescreen but they don't share any actual tooling.
Speaking of retools (and Starscream), they couldn't save either Nacelle or G2 Starscream for next year's FSS?
Posted by leakin' lubricant on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:35pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:35pm CDT
Posted by ausbot on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:43pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:48pm CDT
Don't hear anyone complaining about Arcee's butt flaps btw.
Posted by ILL-Star on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:48pm CDT
Aside from G2 Screamer and Nacelle, I'm pretty happy with the reveals as long as Tarantulas has his colors adjusted.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:50pm CDT
Posted by Mkall on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:52pm CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on June 21st, 2014 @ 6:59pm CDT
Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.
How?
I thought you had to buy the whole set...
All I want is Krok
Posted by Mindmaster on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:01pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.
How?
I thought you had to buy the whole set...
All I want is Krok
If there's any leftover stock after shipping the figures out, the Club usually sticks the individuals on the Club Store. Alternatively, one can go to online retailers such as Big Bad Toy Store or TFSource and get specific individuals from there.
Posted by Midnight_Fox on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:08pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.
How?
I thought you had to buy the whole set...
All I want is Krok
If there's any leftover stock after shipping the figures out, the Club usually sticks the individuals on the Club Store. Alternatively, one can go to online retailers such as Big Bad Toy Store or TFSource and get specific individuals from there.
Alternate alternatively, you can sometimes find someone to split a set with. I'm actually already in on 1/6th of a sub for Nacelle.
Posted by fenrir72 on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:08pm CDT
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Puppetpmprime.jpg
Posted by Rated X on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:10pm CDT
Weird blue seeker ? Why not ? Who is she anyways ?
Taruantlas...maybe...
The others totally suck.
Posted by Mindmaster on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:12pm CDT
Midnight_Fox wrote:Alternate alternatively, you can sometimes find someone to split a set with.
That too!
fenrir72 wrote:Prime' design reminds me of the big animatronic Powermaster in the old TF G1 videos with the Tommy Kennedy kid.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Puppetpmprime.jpg
Y'know, as I was looking at this thing, I was getting a Powermaster/Godmaster vibe from it for whatever reason. If this gets a third party Powermaster converting trailer/armor, I'd be game for it.
But besides that, I'm perfectly happy with my Classics Voyager. Had this been revealed exactly a year ago, I would've pounced on it, no questions asked.
Posted by Zeedust on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:12pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well it seems as though the tfss creative well is drying a bit. Oh well, at least i won't be missing out on anything important like these last two.
I think another part of the issue is that they've come up with plenty of things for their comics that are based on pre-existing toys and could easily be used for things like the FSS, and then not gone ahead and produced them. The "Beast Wars: Uprising" designs, in particular, are a very visible case of this, but it goes back way further. To say nothing of they fact that I'm not sure what's stopping them from doing pre-existing designs like Ser-Ket or Flatline that are already based on a pre-existing toy mold.
Posted by Rated X on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:15pm CDT
ILL-Star wrote:At this point I wish they would just stop using that stupid Classic Seeker mold. We've since gotten the newer and better FOC Seeker for them to use. Of course that's just my opinion. I know that G2 Starscream was just a repaint of the G1 figure so it makes sense for FP to use it. But would it really hurt to change the physical appearance of the character to better fit today's style? The Classics Seeker is clumsy, blocky, and old.
Aside from G2 Screamer and Nacelle, I'm pretty happy with the reveals as long as Tarantulas has his colors adjusted.
I love the seeker mold cant get enough of it. Hope we get that red seeker for the free figure. I would love that. The FOC seeker mold is just ok. Too video gamish for me...
Posted by YoungPrime on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:15pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.
How?
I thought you had to buy the whole set...
All I want is Krok
If there's any leftover stock after shipping the figures out, the Club usually sticks the individuals on the Club Store. Alternatively, one can go to online retailers such as Big Bad Toy Store or TFSource and get specific individuals from there.
Oh, what's the average rate for just one?
Posted by Midnight_Fox on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:16pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Weird blue seeker ? Why not ? Who is she anyways ?
Nacelle is a new Club original character. The deco is based on this proto-Thrust:
Source: http://www.tf-1.com/articles/eurous/ear ... plate.html
Posted by Mindmaster on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:18pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Mindmaster wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.
How?
I thought you had to buy the whole set...
All I want is Krok
If there's any leftover stock after shipping the figures out, the Club usually sticks the individuals on the Club Store. Alternatively, one can go to online retailers such as Big Bad Toy Store or TFSource and get specific individuals from there.
Oh, what's the average rate for just one?
There's really no average. It depends on the popularity of the character. If it's someone like Circuit, probably dirt cheap for a TFCC exclusive (thirty-ish bucks). If it's someone like Slipstream or Robots in Disguise Scourge, could go up to or more than $100.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:26pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well it seems as though the tfss creative well is drying a bit. Oh well, at least i won't be missing out on anything important like these last two.
I think another part of the issue is that they've come up with plenty of things for their comics that are based on pre-existing toys and could easily be used for things like the FSS, and then not gone ahead and produced them. The "Beast Wars: Uprising" designs, in particular, are a very visible case of this, but it goes back way further. To say nothing of they fact that I'm not sure what's stopping them from doing pre-existing designs like Ser-Ket or Flatline that are already based on a pre-existing toy mold.
If they did something like that, then sure I'd sign up. But as it stands, g2 Starscreams the only one I'm tempted by, but its mostly because im trying to build a neo g2 collection. I say next years going to be one of the cheapest tfss aftermarkets
Posted by Megatron Wolf on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:28pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:33pm CDT
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Nacelle
Posted by philswitch engage on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:35pm CDT
Posted by DEANO85 on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:47pm CDT
Posted by Tresob on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:49pm CDT
Posted by durroth on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:51pm CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:53pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:54pm CDT
Posted by Spider5800 on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:54pm CDT
Any idea where this exclusive is gonna be available at? I would love to pick these all up at once without having to search multiple Target's and TRU's in my area, lol.
Posted by Mindmaster on June 21st, 2014 @ 7:59pm CDT
Spider5800 wrote:
Any idea where this exclusive is gonna be available at? I would love to pick these all up at once without having to search multiple Target's and TRU's in my area, lol.
It's a Platinum Edition set. All of those are exclusive to Toy "R" Us.
Posted by necr0blivion on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:00pm CDT
Rated X wrote:I love the seeker mold cant get enough of it. Hope we get that red seeker for the free figure. I would love that. The FOC seeker mold is just ok. Too video gamish for me...
Yeah, I'm surprised Red Wing *giggle* didn't make it on this list. But he could still be the 7th figure, next year's free sub figure, the companion sell figure, or even in next year's BotCon set. But seeing how we've got seeker mold representing here, I'm hoping he's the 7th figure.
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:01pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:04pm CDT
There's even a direct reference to "Farmageddon"!
Posted by Midnight_Fox on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:11pm CDT
necr0blivion wrote:Rated X wrote:I love the seeker mold cant get enough of it. Hope we get that red seeker for the free figure. I would love that. The FOC seeker mold is just ok. Too video gamish for me...
Yeah, I'm surprised Red Wing *giggle* didn't make it on this list. But he could still be the 7th figure, next year's free sub figure, the companion sell figure, or even in next year's BotCon set. But seeing how we've got seeker mold representing here, I'm hoping he's the 7th figure.
As the child of a podiatrist, I fervently hope Red Wing gets made some day. I want a Seeker named after a shoe company.
Posted by ScoutBumblebee on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:16pm CDT
Posted by Zeedust on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:21pm CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:31pm CDT
Posted by Grahf_ on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:32pm CDT
So we have Rattrap, Waspinator and Rhinox but Depthcharge, Rampage, Tarantulas and possibly Silverbolt are exclusive retools. If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.
Possibly for the SS after this one they're advertising for now or maybe even next years incentive figure but that might be too soon for a mold that's not even out yet.
I checked as many of the comments as I could however it seems that everyone is too busy calling that Optimus "ugly" but I see something interesting when I look at it's design. To me, it absolutely screams Machine Wars Optimus Prime/Thunderclash update. The alt modes are very reminiscent of each other and the parts layout and transformation are similar too. Just give it a new chest plate and head and it would be perfect as Thunderclash/MW Optimus.
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /611/1/26/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /640/1/37/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /640/1/66/
Posted by craggy on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:34pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:Anyone have any idea why they changed which mold they were using for Nightbeat, BTW?
I've missed this in all the news, who is Nightbeat a repaint of now?
Posted by Zeedust on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:46pm CDT
craggy wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Anyone have any idea why they changed which mold they were using for Nightbeat, BTW?
I've missed this in all the news, who is Nightbeat a repaint of now?
He was based on the "Reveal the Shield" Jazz mold, with a new head and speakers replaced by searchlights. Now they're using the Generations Bumblebee mold with a new head but no other retooling. I was wondering if they said anything at Botcon about the reason for the switch.
Posted by Zeedust on June 21st, 2014 @ 8:53pm CDT
Alpha Weltall wrote:If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.
I doubt Fun Pub will do Airazor either, since they already got her early on. And honestly, if someone does decide to do a retool or windblade, I think a more interesting idea would be to go back to the concept ideas that are out there which feature her as a knight or a Roman-style warrior. And if Funpub does a Knight Windblade, they could get reuse out of the knight insignia they designed for Botcon this year to boot.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 21st, 2014 @ 9:03pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:Alpha Weltall wrote:If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.
I doubt Fun Pub will do Airazor either, since they already got her early on. And honestly, if someone does decide to do a retool or windblade, I think a more interesting idea would be to go back to the concept ideas that are out there which feature her as a knight or a Roman-style warrior. And if Funpub does a Knight Windblade, they could get reuse out of the knight insignia they designed for Botcon this year to boot.
I hope they 'll pull a springer/sandstorm, tfp arcee/chromia and make slipstream from windblade. You can say they won't because of the club, but what else is there for femjets.
Posted by gothsaurus on June 21st, 2014 @ 9:09pm CDT
Posted by Zeedust on June 21st, 2014 @ 9:14pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Alpha Weltall wrote:If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.
I doubt Fun Pub will do Airazor either, since they already got her early on. And honestly, if someone does decide to do a retool or windblade, I think a more interesting idea would be to go back to the concept ideas that are out there which feature her as a knight or a Roman-style warrior. And if Funpub does a Knight Windblade, they could get reuse out of the knight insignia they designed for Botcon this year to boot.
I hope they 'll pull a springer/sandstorm, tfp arcee/chromia and make slipstream from windblade. You can say they won't because of the club, but what else is there for femjets.
You're right, I can't say they won't because of the club. The club doesn't really seem to have any influence on what Hasbro does except maybe indirectly.
I'm not sure how likely it is, but this sort of major retool would have to be doon by Hasbro/Takara themselves. And given the way they've got Generations set up currently, they'd probably want to have Slipstream in the IDW comics so they could have something to reprint with her toy (and let's be honest, there's other good reasons for this to happen too). So if it does happen, we'll probably see it coming.
Maybe if they make that Slipstream, they could also turn Chromia into Flamewar?
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 21st, 2014 @ 9:29pm CDT
You did a headmaster scorpinok, yeah thats cool we made an all new headmaster mold without having to Frankenstein an energon mold and a g1 headmaster. Also his head can turn, the little guy can actually fit in the vehicle mode cockpit, and we didnt missassemble our toy.
Posted by T-Macksimus on June 21st, 2014 @ 9:35pm CDT
Pretty cool to see some of the other Generations figures though although I'm a bit disappointed that they are still getting lazy and bringing in figures from different lines and repainting them and passing them off as our beloved "Classic" characters. I find that rather insulting.
Not sure what to make of that Voyager Prime but I can tell from the pics that I already like it better than the Evasion Mode Prime so I guess I'll be adding that one to my Prime collection. Disappoints that Megatrons guns are so puny but that's tolerable since I like the rest of the figure in both tank and robot modes. Haven't seen a decent Megs since Classics line first started (I'm not counting the recent Legends figure. It's very cool but too tiny to be lumped in with the others)
Posted by knightsix on June 21st, 2014 @ 9:36pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 21st, 2014 @ 9:37pm CDT
Posted by Zeedust on June 21st, 2014 @ 9:42pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Nah to soon for flamewar unless someone at Hasbros in a massive pissing contest with someone at funpub.
It's the only female Decepticon I could think of who'd work with Chromia's mold. Really, I just think if they do Slipstream, they might as well do some gal-pals for her so she's not the only female Decepticon in the entire IDW universe.
knightsix wrote:I doubt we'll see a Slipstream anytime soon. They just had her in the TFSS last year. Plus Nautica was already designed to be a retool of Windblade, so that's likely the next variant we see out of her. But she'll be a general release. Nautica's a submersible, though, so can anyone be retooled or repainted from her?
Thunderblast, maybe?