#Botcon2016 Transformers Collector Club Figures: Counterpunch, Toxitron, Scorponok and More

I'm all for that GI Joe set!!

Seeing that there is a Pretender Megatron to go with Optimus, I now want both.

Masterpiece Ratbat? That's surprising.

Fractyl and Scorponok, eh. Sounds like something Sabrblade would be into.

Toxitron is awesome, surprised they're not using the Optimus version of the mold.

Generally good stuff, giving Pretender Optimus an arch-nemesis is a nice touch. The head retool on Toxitron seems like a bit of a waste though, especially considering that there are already two Optimus Prime molds for the Optimus/Motormaster body. (Is it still possible to mix-and-match between retools? Last I recall that happening was a helicopter exclusive, relatively recent.)

That is freakin' awesome to hear about Toxitron. I had mentioned a while back why HasTak hadn't considered this mold for him. Not that they heard me but good things come for those that wait...epic!

So I think it's safe to assume that 4.p and 5.0's 7th figures will be combiner wars decepticons so they can finish this combiner.

steals_your_goats wrote:So I think it's safe to assume that 4.p and 5.0's 7th figures will be combiner wars decepticons so they can finish this combiner.

If this is the case, he'd still need two more limbs. I guess you might could slap Offroad on there, but then you'd take away from either Menasor or Galvatronus (depending on if you've got Wildrider or not and are a stickler for team cohesion).

steals_your_goats wrote:So I think it's safe to assume that 4.p and 5.0's 7th figures will be combiner wars decepticons so they can finish this combiner.

Well if you count Terrorsaur then only one more would be needed. Isn't the seventh figure for 4.0 heavily rumored to be a CW Decepticon? I would imagine the 5.0 seventh figure would be Punch but that may just be too easy. Then again, Eject and Rewind. I'm more confused about the wasted potential of a fully complete combiner with Scorponok being made from Scamper and not Blackjack. Sure, there's Runabout and Runamuck but one should go to Grand Scourge and the other isn't out yet and will be fairly limited and expensive.

It's also pretty cool that they're reusing that Oilmaster Pretender shell and making another shell for Megatron but I'm not into those. I see them as wasted potential that could've gone to another larger figure or more extra smaller figures or weapons. They have to cater to all types though, or at least try, so it's ok though as I'll still get them and keep them.

Scorponok seems kinda odd - when I see a blue + bronzey orange little guy paired with Fractyl, my first thought is Packrat. Without a Scorponok paintjob or head, there isn't much tying this car guy to Scorps.

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Alpha Weltall wrote:It's also pretty cool that they're reusing that Oilmaster Pretender shell and making another shell for Megatron but I'm not into those. I see them as wasted potential that could've gone to another larger figure or more extra smaller figures or weapons. They have to cater to all types though, or at least try, so it's ok though as I'll still get them and keep them.

FunPub creating a last minute Pretender shell surprised me too, but it turns out it's a redeco of an existing Pretender - Grand Maximus's toy featured a Pretender shell for his Cerebro;

Double Headmaster Pretender Cityformer, yes.

That's pretty neat that Megatron's partner is Astrotrain! I think Cobra Commander or Donny Finkleberg might have been a better choice but its neat none the less.

RevTibe wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:It's also pretty cool that they're reusing that Oilmaster Pretender shell and making another shell for Megatron but I'm not into those. I see them as wasted potential that could've gone to another larger figure or more extra smaller figures or weapons. They have to cater to all types though, or at least try, so it's ok though as I'll still get them and keep them.

FunPub creating a last minute Pretender shell surprised me too, but it turns out it's a redeco of an existing Pretender - Grand Maximus's toy featured a Pretender shell for his Cerebro;

Double Headmaster Pretender Cityformer, yes.

Thanks for the info but I knew that already as I recognized it (I never said it was a NEW shell) and it's already in the description described by D-Maximus as well. It's still kind of a waste either way though.

Mindmaster wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:So I think it's safe to assume that 4.p and 5.0's 7th figures will be combiner wars decepticons so they can finish this combiner.

If this is the case, he'd still need two more limbs. I guess you might could slap Offroad on there, but then you'd take away from either Menasor or Galvatronus (depending on if you've got Wildrider or not and are a stickler for team cohesion).

The other two would be the two in this set.

Kinda pissed that the domestic release of MP Ratbat is for a club exclusive. Anybody else notice Cobra Commander is coming with the Megatron gun again?

I'm calling it now the 7th figure in FSS 5.0 will either be CW Mirage as Crasher/Fracture or CW Groove as Wreck Gar

I want that FSS (except for the Paradron medic), but I'm not sure I can drop that kind of money on it again.

Counterpunch losing Punch doesn't bother me because it's not a sudden development; the possibility has been hinted at since his Universe profile.

Not thrilled about Fractyl losing the HFG (or that Terrorsaur lost his) but it still looks nice. Scorponok doesn't appeal to me as much.

Toxitron looks badass, and the Pretender leaders are are both cool ideas, although Optimus turned out better.

steals_your_goats wrote:So I think it's safe to assume that 4.p and 5.0's 7th figures will be combiner wars decepticons so they can finish this combiner.

I'm guessing the 4.0 7th figure is Quake from CW Brawl. Their heads look similar enough, they have the same alt mode, Brawl's tank cannon can be used as a handheld weapon just like Quake's could, and it's confirmed to be a CW Deluxe. Quake's original toy was released alongside those of Needlenose and Spinister, so he'd fit in with the team even if he's not technically a member.

The G.I. Joe figures intrigue me and frustrate me at the same time.

Ninja Force Scarlett - The original was a hideous piece of junk with badly-malformed legs to accommodate her kicking action feature. I had her back in the day. I really wish Hasbro would've had NF Scarlett in their retail releases at some point (back before the current iteration of the retail line died).

Cobra Commander - Oh, wow, another reuse of the Crimson Guard torso, though this time it looks like they're mixing in the upper legs of the original 25th Anniversary Cobra Commander. It would be nice if Hasbro could actually do a new torso to represent CC's dress uniform, like they did back in the 90s.

Dr. Biggles-Jones - I have no issues here.

As to the Transformers stuff... I have concerns about that MP Ratbat deco. Guessing it's supposed to be a Generation 2 theme, but that doesn't make much sense because Ratbat was one of the few characters killed in the G1 comic who stayed dead in G2.

Shegotron wrote:As to the Transformers stuff... I have concerns about that MP Ratbat deco. Guessing it's supposed to be a Generation 2 theme, but that doesn't make much sense because Ratbat was one of the few characters killed in the G1 comic who stayed dead in G2.

I thinnnnk the blue instead of black's just a tribute to how he looked in the Marvel comics thanks to how they inked things (there was an MP Grimlock release with a similar visual tribute).

Not sure if he's really there to be a G2 tribute - I think it's just to give club members the chance to land a Masterpiece Ratbat without buying the Soundblaster set.

Zeedust wrote:Not thrilled about Fractyl losing the HFG (or that Terrorsaur lost his) but it still looks nice. Scorponok doesn't appeal to me as much.

Toxitron looks badass, and the Pretender leaders are are both cool ideas, although Optimus turned out better.

steals_your_goats wrote:So I think it's safe to assume that 4.p and 5.0's 7th figures will be combiner wars decepticons so they can finish this combiner.

I'm guessing the 4.0 7th figure is Quake from CW Brawl. Their heads look similar enough, they have the same alt mode, Brawl's tank cannon can be used as a handheld weapon just like Quake's could, and it's confirmed to be a CW Deluxe. Quake's original toy was released alongside those of Needlenose and Spinister, so he'd fit in with the team even if he's not technically a member.

Neither one of those guys lost their HFG they're just not pictured with them. And I think the two secret figures will be quake from brawl like you said and crankcase from first aid.

RevTibe wrote:

Shegotron wrote:As to the Transformers stuff... I have concerns about that MP Ratbat deco. Guessing it's supposed to be a Generation 2 theme, but that doesn't make much sense because Ratbat was one of the few characters killed in the G1 comic who stayed dead in G2.

I thinnnnk the blue instead of black's just a tribute to how he looked in the Marvel comics thanks to how they inked things (there was an MP Grimlock release with a similar visual tribute).

Not sure if he's really there to be a G2 tribute - I think it's just to give club members the chance to land a Masterpiece Ratbat without buying the Soundblaster set.

If it looked the same as the blue on Cobra Commander, I'd buy it, but it looks pastel in that shot. Yes, I know it's a pretty iffy photo of a projected Powerpoint image, so it's not exactly 100% clear, but until we get that clear image of it, I'm going to remain skeptical. Plus, the storyline in question was the lead-in to G2, and as I said before, Ratbat wasn't in it, so it still baffles me why he's included in this particular group shot if he doesn't have anything to do with G2.

My question is why the grand max shell, is there a reissue coming or is sdcc maximums coming with a shell.

* Masterpiece Ratbat is surely a nice surprise. Shame that's as far as the Club will go with MP releases, seeing as, y'know, FunPub's not going to have the license anymore.

* Now that I see there's going to be a Pretender Megatron, I suddenly want Pretender Optimus even more. That thing looks really awesome!

* Not into Lifeline. Not that I don't like her, it just doesn't pander to me, personally.

* Toxitron looks badass! Though why bother making a brand new head when you can just use the already-existing head mold?

* Punch seems pointless without Counterpunch... why couldn't it had been Slicer/Shattered Glass Wheeljack?

* Don't care about Fractyl. I'm not far enough into the BotCon legends to get into him.

* Pre-BW Scorponok from Scamper seems like an odd decision... would've preferred something like Waspinator from Viper or something.

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steals_your_goats wrote:Neither one of those guys lost their HFG they're just not pictured with them. And I think the two secret figures will be quake from brawl like you said and crankcase from first aid.

Sorry, just been hearing over and over that Terrorsaur doesn't have the HFG. And I like the HFG, so that disappointed me a little.

I almost forgot one more reason for it to be Quake: It gives them the opportunity to use Scoop's Targetmasters YET AGAIN.

And if you're right about Crankcase, I'm gonna be kind of annoyed that he got to be an FSS bonus, while Ratchet is only available as a custom class figure. So much for making a Team Prime themed combiner.