Buyer Beware: KO Human Alliance Barricade

Maybe it ISN'T a knockoff, nut the real deal. They just bring the price down, so people will buy there first. Well, but then calling it a KO doesn't make much sense. there's sense in there somewere.

BeastProwl wrote:Maybe it ISN'T a knockoff, nut the real deal. They just bring the price down, so people will buy there first. Well, but then calling it a KO doesn't make much sense. there's sense in there somewere.

If you look at some of the auctions, you'll see they're selling multiples, sometimes 10 or more. I find it hard to believe that Hasbro or TakaraTomy made case after case of just Barricades and they somehow got misplaced so these guys could hock 'em for low prices.

I get where you're coming from, but I'm gonna believe the seller. If he claims it's a KO, I'm not gonna argue.

thats pretty expensive for a KO good thing i have a real one, picked mine up on clearance at TRU for $18

I know it has to be the standard intro for KO news, but "Buyer Beware" just sounds silly when all the sellers so far have fessed up to what they are.

I too already got the real deal on clearance, but yeah, "beware". Especially if they start selling exact replicas of HA Mudflap for under $50, allowing an opener like myself to have the bike-sisters trio in scale with other Bayniverse figures. Then I'll be REALLY "scared".

Or if someone KOed that cancelled vs. pack of the 3 Legends bike-sisters fighting deluxe Sideways. Then I'll be "terrified".

I know I'm taking a morally dubious stand by wishing for more new KOs, but if Hasbro really has a problem with this, perhaps they could give us their full definition of "retired" I.P. As in what might have happened to the Dinobots without FOC. Now THAT barely averted a situation of which I'd "beware".

Hell..If it was a decant looking KO and was at a good price.I would buy one to hack up for some mods I want to do to one of my real HA Barricades.That's where I find mods perfectly acceptable when you are going to chop them up to use for mods.

I was looking at one of these the othe rnight but my good sense alarm went and said a Ha baricade for under $50? B.S..I passed and Im glad I did. Someday I'll have that HA series complete and 100% authentic

I got my barricade for $9.99 at tj max I'm pretty sure I have every HA figure to date let's see barricade,jazz,bee yellow and black,skids green and black,mudflap,sideswipe silver,black and artic,leadfoot,roadbuster with outlined 88 and not outlined 88 and soundwave am I missing anyone oh and no I don't own the Takara version of leadfoot because I don't want him

If your gonna knock off a figure, why waste plastic KO'ing cheap retail figures ??? How about knocking off something thats a little bit more rare...

Shouldn't this be reported to eBay?

GuyIncognito wrote:Shouldn't this be reported to eBay?

No because the seller is telling you in his listing that it's a KO

Rated X wrote::lol:

If your gonna knock off a figure, why waste plastic KO'ing cheap retail figures ??? How about knocking off something thats a little bit more rare...

Because I think it what mold they can get their hands on and barricade is one of the rarer HA figures next to mudflap

Hotrodimust wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:Shouldn't this be reported to eBay?

No because the seller is telling you in his listing that it's a KO

You really could report it, though. After the big KO purge a few years back people began to list things as "remake" or "china reissue" to avoid being taken down outright by being overly honest and calling their stuff a KO.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:Shouldn't this be reported to eBay?

No because the seller is telling you in his listing that it's a KO

You really could report it, though. After the big KO purge a few years back people began to list things as "remake" or "china reissue" to avoid being taken down outright by being overly honest and calling their stuff a KO.

But why do it when it comes down to it it's someone trying to make a living and he's being honest about what he's selling. I'm a seller on eBay and I can't count how many times someone buys my item without reading the description. It's the stupid that make things so difficult

Hotrodimust wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:Shouldn't this be reported to eBay?

No because the seller is telling you in his listing that it's a KO

You really could report it, though. After the big KO purge a few years back people began to list things as "remake" or "china reissue" to avoid being taken down outright by being overly honest and calling their stuff a KO.

But why do it when it comes down to it it's someone trying to make a living and he's being honest about what he's selling. I'm a seller on eBay and I can't count how many times someone buys my item without reading the description. It's the stupid that make things so difficult

Well, no argument from me on that point.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:Shouldn't this be reported to eBay?

No because the seller is telling you in his listing that it's a KO

You really could report it, though. After the big KO purge a few years back people began to list things as "remake" or "china reissue" to avoid being taken down outright by being overly honest and calling their stuff a KO.

But why do it when it comes down to it it's someone trying to make a living and he's being honest about what he's selling. I'm a seller on eBay and I can't count how many times someone buys my item without reading the description. It's the stupid that make things so difficult

Well, no argument from me on that point.

Lol

Rated X wrote::lol:

If your gonna knock off a figure, why waste plastic KO'ing cheap retail figures ??? How about knocking off something thats a little bit more rare...

I have no idea why as it's a mediocre figure, but this thing is/was selling for over $100 MISB and around $100 even loose. I just so happened to have an extra that I couldn't unload for $20 a year ago...then somehow it became a highly desired fig and I listed it on eBay for $20 w/ free shipping...bastard sold for $112. Thanks to all the people that passed when I was trying to unload it for cheap

I shoulda sold my own loose copy before the KO was released, too.

Have just recieved a HA Barricade for $40 on ebay. Since I have the original Hasbro version, I can safely say, there is absolutely no difference in packaging or toy quality. Boxes are identical in colour and size. All writings, trademarks ect are exactly how they should be. Barcode is exact. Plastic quality is the same. No loose parts. Frenzy same. If it is indeed a ko (which the price suggests), it's damn, damn good! In fact, I'm 100% sure that the original manufacturer, Hasbro, would not be able to tell you which was which. It may be an original. Stolen stock? Who knows?
But just because it's cheap.....it ain't a clear ko.

punishandenslave wrote:Have just recieved a HA Barricade for $40 on ebay. Since I have the original Hasbro version, I can safely say, there is absolutely no difference in packaging or toy quality. Boxes are identical in colour and size. All writings, trademarks ect are exactly how they should be. Barcode is exact. Plastic quality is the same. No loose parts. Frenzy same. If it is indeed a ko (which the price suggests), it's damn, damn good! In fact, I'm 100% sure that the original manufacturer, Hasbro, would not be able to tell you which was which. It may be an original. Stolen stock? Who knows?
But just because it's cheap.....it ain't a clear ko.

Hmm. That's really bad news, then. Have to wonder, then...are they stolen legit items, or just that good? Perplexing turn of events...

One way to tell if it shares an identical mold is to try and parts swap. Often, while it may seem identical in hand a bit of parts swapping shows things don't measure up completely.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:One way to tell if it shares an identical mold is to try and parts swap. Often, while it may seem identical in hand a bit of parts swapping shows things don't measure up completely.

Part swap is fine. Just recieved another reputed ko and a loose original HA Barricade. I'm now fully convinced that these are NOT ko's! Everything is identical and fits perfectly. I'm going with either "fell off the back of a truck" stock or plain and simple overstock. I'd be more worried about collectors paying $100 plus for a HA Barricade! Rediculous. It's not rare, and never was made in limited numbers. It is by no means a "Limited Edition"!

punishandenslave wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:One way to tell if it shares an identical mold is to try and parts swap. Often, while it may seem identical in hand a bit of parts swapping shows things don't measure up completely.

Part swap is fine. Just recieved another reputed ko and a loose original HA Barricade. I'm now fully convinced that these are NOT ko's! Everything is identical and fits perfectly. I'm going with either "fell off the back of a truck" stock or plain and simple overstock. I'd be more worried about collectors paying $100 plus for a HA Barricade! Rediculous. It's not rare, and never was made in limited numbers. It is by no means a "Limited Edition"!

Same goes for HA Soundwave and Sideswipe. Will let you know on others I get .

Hi,
I am from the Netherlands and i want to buy 2 reasonably cheap human alliance figures Sideswipe and Barricade, together they cost 90 euro's but here in the Netherlands we don't pay as much for the expensive figures. My question is if there is a way of finding the difference between the original and the KO because i don't want to be ripped off.
Thanks.

blackunicron79 wrote:Hi,
I am from the Netherlands and i want to buy 2 reasonably cheap human alliance figures Sideswipe and Barricade, together they cost 90 euro's but here in the Netherlands we don't pay as much for the expensive figures. My question is if there is a way of finding the difference between the original and the KO because i don't want to be ripped off.
Thanks.

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In looking at this thread, perusing threads in other forums, and looking at some pictures, there may not really be a way tell the difference, even with both in hand. The speculation has been that maybe the units are overstock from Has/Tak or perhaps stolen. The other option is that the KO is so good as to be indistinguishable from the original.

If this latter is true, it is the one thing I really hate about KOs. To me, a KO should be obvious, poorer quality, and noted by some packaging cue. Something like this, if not real, becomes a counterfeit. It is pretending to be the real thing to fool people into believing that it is the real thing. KOs, when obvious make be feel queasy. KOs that are made to look just like the original to fool people who want the original make me mad. (I had an issue with Encore Metroplex a number of years ago when I got one that appeared to be a KO and the store I bought from got snippy with me.)

So, now that I went on for a novel, the short answer is that it may not be possible to tell the difference. It may come down to just how much you want the figure. If you are not going to keep him MISB and just want to play with him, then it may not matter much. If you plan on keeping him or selling him at a later time? Then it makes it more of a risk.

Heck, I have MISB Leadfoot and Baracade that I was hoping to sell at some point here coming up. With these KOs about, I may never get top value for mine. I know I bought them from Target on clearance. But any buyers would have to trust me, and that's hard to do on the Internets...