Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix

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In a piece of good news out there for Combiner Wars fans, it looks like the combiner hip design found on Wave 1's Optimus Prime and Wave 2's Motormaster torsos, which didn't allow a squared hip pose in the Combiner mode, has been corrected with the release of Wave 4's Battle Core Optimus Prime. I received my BC Prime today from Amazon, and grabbed some pictures of this design change to help explain what you can expect if you pick this figure up.

First, the original issue:

The hip assembly on Optimus Prime and Motormaster don't allow Menasor and a Combiner using the Optimus Prime torso to stand straight legged when the hip panels are locked into place. You can see that Optimus Maximus, on the right, is able to stand in a straight legged pose with no issues, even with the hip panels locked in.

Here I've illustrated the same thing with just Menasor and Optimus Maximus.

Attempting to bend Menasors hip inwards, while leaving the hip lock intact, leads to imbalance as well. Battle Core Optimus Prime also holds on to Legends Rodimus much more securely than Motormaster or Optimus Prime can, though I can't find any obvious engineering reason for it.

If we look at just the torsos, it highlights the issue with the initial runs of this mold. And yes, I need to clean my table. I'll bring my dog over to your living room and we'll see how long yours stays clean

The problem here clearly comes down to the hips of the Voyager torso itself. This mold has angled feet, so the individual robot mode really wasn't intended to stand hips-squared, but the original Optimus Prime usage of it and the subsequent Motormaster release both allow this.

Upon opening up the hips, you can see this pretty clearly. This is the default position of the hip ratchet when you open the figures, with Battle Core Optimus Prime on the left and the original Optimus on the right. It isn't extremely obvious here what they did to fix it. They couldn't have just changed the position, because then mere clicks one way or another on the original mold would solve the problem. What did they do?

See it yet? Don't count teeth, it won't help.

As you can see in the pictures above, this single piece is the change. By shifting the gear teeth by half a tooth, the Combiner that you can build with the figure can now give you a tall, proud, standing-up-straight pose.

With Motormaster scheduled to be re-released in Wave 4, will a running change be made to him as well to allow for sturdier Menasors? You know, there's hope in not knowing

If you do get a Motormaster out of this wave's case assortment, give it a look and be sure to let our News Team know if this fix has been applied to his re-release as well.

Credit(s): Hasbro

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Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721909)
Posted by Powered Convoy on August 28th, 2015 @ 9:36pm CDT

Takara Motormaster has the fix too.

Randy

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721910)
Posted by joeprime276 on August 28th, 2015 @ 9:37pm CDT

Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721911)
Posted by ScottyP on August 28th, 2015 @ 9:38pm CDT

Powered Convoy wrote:Takara Motormaster has the fix too.

Randy

I really did mean to bring that up, as it inspired me to check on BC Prime in the first place. Instead, I had three beers and then wrote the news post :HEADHURTS:

joeprime276 wrote:Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

Personally, yes, absolutely. Easy money and I'm sure the Breakdown head might even work for it.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721913)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 28th, 2015 @ 9:53pm CDT

joeprime276 wrote:Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

In the back of the comic that came with Sunstreaker they show the yellow body with what appears to be Sideswipes head. Food for thought; we know there's a Ratchet coming and they might follow the Generations beat and release Tracks as a re-tool of Wheeljack, add in Sideswipe and you have three limbs in place for another torso.

I really didn't want to buy battle Core Optimus, I really didn't, I... Guaranteed delivery September 1st

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721915)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 28th, 2015 @ 9:59pm CDT

Good to see a fix. I still will not get him, but at least he is fixed. I may get a second mm if the hips are fixed in him though

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721917)
Posted by william-james88 on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:02pm CDT

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Good to see a fix. I still will not get him, but at least he is fixed. I may get a second mm if the hips are fixed in him though

Umm... you could always try Hasbro customer service and tell them your MM has problems with his hips and is defective. And then ask them if you could send it back to them. They will then tell you if they have any of your item left. They usually dont and you are sent something totally random. BUT in this case, we know that they have a new batch of MMs, so they could say they can make the exchange. If so, then you get an upgraded MM for free.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721919)
Posted by ScottyP on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:06pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Good to see a fix. I still will not get him, but at least he is fixed. I may get a second mm if the hips are fixed in him though

Umm... you could always try Hasbro customer service and tell them your MM has problems with his hips and is defective. And then ask them if you could send it back to them. They will then tell you if they have any of your item left. They usually dont and you are sent something totally random. BUT in this case, we know that they have a new batch of MMs, so they could say they can make the exchange. If so, then you get an upgraded MM for free.

Do not do this. Very good chance you'll end up with something like an AOE Voyager. Not worth it.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721920)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:13pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
joeprime276 wrote:Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

In the back of the comic that came with Sunstreaker they show the yellow body with what appears to be Sideswipes head. Food for thought; we know there's a Ratchet coming and they might follow the Generations beat and release Tracks as a re-tool of Wheeljack, add in Sideswipe and you have three limbs in place for another torso.

I really didn't want to buy battle Core Optimus, I really didn't, I... Guaranteed delivery September 1st

Who said there was going to be a ratchet?

And so help me, if this ends up being true, and we get another '84 team... :BOOM:

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721935)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:43pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I really didn't want to buy battle Core Optimus, I really didn't,

You didn't need to! you could've just painted the standard one white.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721937)
Posted by william-james88 on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:48pm CDT

ScottyP wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Good to see a fix. I still will not get him, but at least he is fixed. I may get a second mm if the hips are fixed in him though

Umm... you could always try Hasbro customer service and tell them your MM has problems with his hips and is defective. And then ask them if you could send it back to them. They will then tell you if they have any of your item left. They usually dont and you are sent something totally random. BUT in this case, we know that they have a new batch of MMs, so they could say they can make the exchange. If so, then you get an upgraded MM for free.
Do not do this. Very good chance you'll end up with something like an AOE Voyager. Not worth it.

My advice was not to do it but to attempt it. Hasbro will say if they have the figure he needs before he sends his over to them.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721950)
Posted by Shockwave7 on August 28th, 2015 @ 11:50pm CDT

Neat pictoral of the MM/Prime hip issues. Is there any chance at all we could just ask Hasbro to mail out replacement ratchets? I'm sure enterprising owners would undertake the labor to fix the hips themselves. Heck, I'd pay five bucks or so just to get a couple new ratchets with the fix applied....

Or maybe the folks who are making those 3D printed hand and feet replacements for the CW combiners could be given the specs for the fixed versions of those ratchet teeth wheels and start printing out some of those to sell...

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721951)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 29th, 2015 @ 12:06am CDT

Shockwave7 wrote:Neat pictoral of the MM/Prime hip issues. Is there any chance at all we could just ask Hasbro to mail out replacement ratchets? I'm sure enterprising owners would undertake the labor to fix the hips themselves. Heck, I'd pay five bucks or so just to get a couple new ratchets with the fix applied....

Or maybe the folks who are making those 3D printed hand and feet replacements for the CW combiners could be given the specs for the fixed versions of those ratchet teeth wheels and start printing out some of those to sell...

nonnef already has them ready to be shipped. vangeleus has also reviewed them, and I have heard nothing but positive things about it on the nonnef tfw thread; check 'em out

http://www.nonnef.com/collections/combiner-wars-upgrades/products/combiner-wars-hip-ratchet-upgrade

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721958)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 29th, 2015 @ 12:26am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Good to see a fix. I still will not get him, but at least he is fixed. I may get a second mm if the hips are fixed in him though

Umm... you could always try Hasbro customer service and tell them your MM has problems with his hips and is defective. And then ask them if you could send it back to them. They will then tell you if they have any of your item left. They usually dont and you are sent something totally random. BUT in this case, we know that they have a new batch of MMs, so they could say they can make the exchange. If so, then you get an upgraded MM for free.
Do not do this. Very good chance you'll end up with something like an AOE Voyager. Not worth it.

My advice was not to do it but to attempt it. Hasbro will say if they have the figure he needs before he sends his over to them.

Nah, I don't want to do this whole online over the mail return and exchange thing. No one in my family has had that end well. I can live with my MM, and if the new one is fixed, ill use him for combined mode and the other will be a stand alone

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721961)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 29th, 2015 @ 12:39am CDT

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Good to see a fix. I still will not get him, but at least he is fixed. I may get a second mm if the hips are fixed in him though

Umm... you could always try Hasbro customer service and tell them your MM has problems with his hips and is defective. And then ask them if you could send it back to them. They will then tell you if they have any of your item left. They usually dont and you are sent something totally random. BUT in this case, we know that they have a new batch of MMs, so they could say they can make the exchange. If so, then you get an upgraded MM for free.
Do not do this. Very good chance you'll end up with something like an AOE Voyager. Not worth it.

My advice was not to do it but to attempt it. Hasbro will say if they have the figure he needs before he sends his over to them.

Nah, I don't want to do this whole online over the mail return and exchange thing. No one in my family has had that end well. I can live with my MM, and if the new one is fixed, ill use him for combined mode and the other will be a stand alone

You should at least consider it. I sent a rusty hotspot back and got 2 in return

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721962)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 29th, 2015 @ 12:42am CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
joeprime276 wrote:Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

In the back of the comic that came with Sunstreaker they show the yellow body with what appears to be Sideswipes head. Food for thought; we know there's a Ratchet coming and they might follow the Generations beat and release Tracks as a re-tool of Wheeljack, add in Sideswipe and you have three limbs in place for another torso.

I really didn't want to buy battle Core Optimus, I really didn't, I... Guaranteed delivery September 1st

Who said there was going to be a ratchet?

And so help me, if this ends up being true, and we get another '84 team...

Back of First Aid's comic showed the mold with a Ratchet head.

Stuartmaximus wrote:You didn't need to! you could've just painted the standard one white.

Yeah but I wouldn't have the new hip ratchets.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721963)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 29th, 2015 @ 12:47am CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
joeprime276 wrote:Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

In the back of the comic that came with Sunstreaker they show the yellow body with what appears to be Sideswipes head. Food for thought; we know there's a Ratchet coming and they might follow the Generations beat and release Tracks as a re-tool of Wheeljack, add in Sideswipe and you have three limbs in place for another torso.

I really didn't want to buy battle Core Optimus, I really didn't, I... Guaranteed delivery September 1st

Who said there was going to be a ratchet?

And so help me, if this ends up being true, and we get another '84 team...

Back of First Aid's comic showed the mold with a Ratchet head.

Stuartmaximus wrote:You didn't need to! you could've just painted the standard one white.

Yeah but I wouldn't have the new hip ratchets.

Well, that's not confirmation, and F$%k it if it is, I am in no need for more

's when there are

to be had; I would however get the ratchet mold because the first-aid mold makes for exceptional limbs >:oP

And really if you need hip ratchets, check out nonnefs store page; we really need a nonnef thread, like tfw >:oP

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721973)
Posted by william-james88 on August 29th, 2015 @ 1:05am CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote: I would however get the ratchet mold because the first-aid mold makes for exceptional limbs

I totally agree, those changes to the mold make the robot arms stay put in arm mode and give a more solid leg in leg mode.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721975)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 29th, 2015 @ 1:10am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote: I would however get the ratchet mold because the first-aid mold makes for exceptional limbs

I totally agree, those changes to the mold make the robot arms stay put in arm mode and give a more solid leg in leg mode.

Moreso that the additional bulk around the wrist, and overall sleekness of the leg mode are far and away the best of any (bulky-style) limb. But the wrist-slots do help immensely

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721976)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 29th, 2015 @ 1:10am CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:You didn't need to! you could've just painted the standard one white.

Yeah but I wouldn't have the new hip ratchets.

So lemme get this right....you paid all that money....for the sake of new hip ratchets? for the same bloody figure!(albeit with a new paint job).

Hey! it's your money & you can do whatever you like with it, but I'm sure other people wouldn't go to those extremes(some might! but not all).

+ you probably wanted it to do your reviews with anyway.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1721985)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 29th, 2015 @ 3:26am CDT

Powered Convoy wrote:Takara Motormaster has the fix too.

Randy

Oh goody then! Sometimes it pays to wait.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722012)
Posted by Burn on August 29th, 2015 @ 7:25am CDT

So I was fiddling around with Rook while watching the original Mission Impossible movie tonight.

Not a big fan of the figure, I get what his alt mode is, I just don't like. Robot mode is ... okay.

What I do like though is you can basically turn him into a walking armoury. Combiner feet/hands can plug into each shoulder, you can then plug another weapon onto his back (the pack can then fold up for a over-the-shoulder weapon ... gosh ... that's something that could be done for Impactor) plus the obligatory weapons on his forearms and to top it off, one to plug into his foot.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722023)
Posted by Flashwave on August 29th, 2015 @ 9:21am CDT

I've been debating on getting this because he's totlly not painted like Nova Prime... but I can't deside if I want this or the TFCC fig... I won't be combining, (unless Botcon 2016 gives us Army-Builder Sweeps... where's that new guy? I wanna give him a suggestion) so the hip pose is actually WORSE now for me than with Prime.

Burn wrote:So I was fiddling around with Rook while watching the original Mission Impossible movie tonight.

Not a big fan of the figure, I get what his alt mode is, I just don't like. Robot mode is ... okay.

What I do like though is you can basically turn him into a walking armoury. Combiner feet/hands can plug into each shoulder, you can then plug another weapon onto his back (the pack can then fold up for a over-the-shoulder weapon ... gosh ... that's something that could be done for Impactor) plus the obligatory weapons on his forearms and to top it off, one to plug into his foot.

offrod's vehicle mode is good for this too.

1) attach his gun to the post in his bed in foot formation
2) Attach Drag Strip's gun to the top of Offroad's foot piece using the peg hole under the "toes"/ Knuckle Guns. Unfold the hand so that it wraps around Offroad's footgun.
3) attach remaining Menasor handfeets to the hand-hold holes in Drag Strip's piece.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722098)
Posted by Seibertron on August 29th, 2015 @ 2:11pm CDT

Not sure if this is something new I discovered or not, but I figured out a different configuration for Sunstreaker's accessories in vehicle mode which seems a little more like Sunstreaker with the intakes and engine on top.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722099)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 29th, 2015 @ 2:15pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:Not sure if this is something new I discovered or not, but I figured out a different configuration for Sunstreaker's accessories in vehicle mode which seems a little more like Sunstreaker with the intakes and engine on top.

Can be done on Breakdown too, plus that's the original discovery that lead to the Sunstreaker rumor.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722103)
Posted by Seibertron on August 29th, 2015 @ 2:22pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Can be done on Breakdown too, plus that's the original discovery that lead to the Sunstreaker rumor.

Thanks for the info. Surprised I missed this. Anyone else have alternate accessory configurations in vehicle mode?

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722110)
Posted by RAcast on August 29th, 2015 @ 2:31pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Can be done on Breakdown too, plus that's the original discovery that lead to the Sunstreaker rumor.

Thanks for the info. Surprised I missed this. Anyone else have alternate accessory configurations in vehicle mode?

On that line of thought, there are some small tabs on top of Fireflight's jet mode fuselage that don't seem to be used for anything, anybody have ideas? I've been wondering for awhile, but I could never get the kibblehand to peg on there.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722113)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 29th, 2015 @ 2:42pm CDT

Stuartmaximus wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:You didn't need to! you could've just painted the standard one white.

Yeah but I wouldn't have the new hip ratchets.

So lemme get this right....you paid all that money....for the sake of new hip ratchets? for the same bloody figure!(albeit with a new paint job).

Hey! it's your money & you can do whatever you like with it, but I'm sure other people wouldn't go to those extremes(some might! but not all).

+ you probably wanted it to do your reviews with anyway.

Actually no I was going to use the original Prime as the new head didn't look "New" enough for me. I'm really not that handy and when it comes to fixing ratchet joints I've been lucky and don't wanna push my chances. Keep in mind I have gift cards from Amazon so I didn't pay THAT much. Of course you know this will be part of a Christmas sale on Amazon now.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Not sure if this is something new I discovered or not, but I figured out a different configuration for Sunstreaker's accessories in vehicle mode which seems a little more like Sunstreaker with the intakes and engine on top.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Not sure if this is something new I discovered or not, but I figured out a different configuration for Sunstreaker's accessories in vehicle mode which seems a little more like Sunstreaker with the intakes and engine on top.

Can be done on Breakdown too, plus that's the original discovery that lead to the Sunstreaker rumor.

I showed this off in my review a while back. Breakdown, Offroad, and Dragstrip were the only three bots at the time that had limb module integration. With every new figure I check since they don't mention it in the instructions.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722117)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 29th, 2015 @ 2:58pm CDT

RAcast wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Can be done on Breakdown too, plus that's the original discovery that lead to the Sunstreaker rumor.

Thanks for the info. Surprised I missed this. Anyone else have alternate accessory configurations in vehicle mode?

On that line of thought, there are some small tabs on top of Fireflight's jet mode fuselage that don't seem to be used for anything, anybody have ideas? I've been wondering for awhile, but I could never get the kibblehand to peg on there.

Those are for his fists to peg into in arm mode >:oP

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722119)
Posted by william-james88 on August 29th, 2015 @ 3:09pm CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:
RAcast wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Can be done on Breakdown too, plus that's the original discovery that lead to the Sunstreaker rumor.

Thanks for the info. Surprised I missed this. Anyone else have alternate accessory configurations in vehicle mode?

On that line of thought, there are some small tabs on top of Fireflight's jet mode fuselage that don't seem to be used for anything, anybody have ideas? I've been wondering for awhile, but I could never get the kibblehand to peg on there.

Those are for his fists to peg into in arm mode

Yup, the reason it isnt apaprent is because they are a different shape from the hole but they surprisingly fit in quite snug.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722120)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on August 29th, 2015 @ 3:13pm CDT

I know that Takara's Motormaster probably has the fix too, but I hope Hasbro re-releases Motormaster with the fix, cuz the biggest reason why I've been hesitating getting him, is because of the hips. (The other reason is the horns, which look kinda weird to me, but I can fix that, by cutting them a bit, and painting them black.) :saint:

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722123)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 29th, 2015 @ 3:22pm CDT

Concerning this:

I'm guessing this is the result of a misinterpretation of the line art for that particular part. Just switch the high and low areas, the lines are the same.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722124)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on August 29th, 2015 @ 3:30pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Concerning this:

I'm guessing this is the result of a misinterpretation of the line art for that particular part. Just switch the high and low areas, the lines are the same.

Yeah good point.
Idk maybe someone on Ebay will eventually sell those fixed parts, so that I can get them and switch those out on Motormaster (if they don't release a fixed Motormaster other than the Takara one that is). >:oP

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722126)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on August 29th, 2015 @ 3:33pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Remember when stickers were released for the first two waves of Combiner Wars? Well, there are stickers/decals for every other wave as well as some for Devastator. Fenrir72 gave us the tip for Devy and we found the rest on Robot Kingdom's facebook page. It seems all of these sticker sheets are predominantly for the Asian market, as the previous ones were. Robot Kingdom will be including the Wave 3 and 4 sheets depending on the amount spent on an order of Generations figures and the Devastator decals appear to be only released for Taiwan as is explained on the snakas blog.

Here are the images of these stickers as well as how they look like applied on Devastator. However, please note that the panel lining technique is used on those images and thus simply applying the stickers may not yield the same overall look.

When I look at the stickered version of him, I realize that they also added a bit of paint wash to him, like in the panel lines for example. So really, when you think it's all the stickers doing the job, actually it's mostly the paint wash. >:oP

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722135)
Posted by william-james88 on August 29th, 2015 @ 4:21pm CDT

SillySpringer wrote:
When I look at the stickered version of him, I realize that they also added a bit of paint wash to him, like in the panel lines for example. So really, when you think it's all the stickers doing the job, actually it's mostly the paint wash.

Yeah, its written in the actual article you quoted:

Here are the images of these stickers as well as how they look like applied on Devastator. However, please note that the panel lining technique is used on those images and thus simply applying the stickers may not yield the same overall look.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722142)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on August 29th, 2015 @ 4:35pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
When I look at the stickered version of him, I realize that they also added a bit of paint wash to him, like in the panel lines for example. So really, when you think it's all the stickers doing the job, actually it's mostly the paint wash.

Yeah, its written in the actual article you quoted:

Here are the images of these stickers as well as how they look like applied on Devastator. However, please note that the panel lining technique is used on those images and thus simply applying the stickers may not yield the same overall look.

Sorry I didn't notice where it said that, but even if I did, some people seemed to not notice, so I was just restating it.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722145)
Posted by Burn on August 29th, 2015 @ 4:42pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Concerning this:

I'm guessing this is the result of a misinterpretation of the line art for that particular part. Just switch the high and low areas, the lines are the same.

Doubt it. They would have done a 3D render before it was sent to production. Chances are this particular piece was a generic piece that didn't even require designing so they just used it.

It would explain why it was never picked up until final release forcing them back to the design screen.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722170)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 29th, 2015 @ 6:19pm CDT

Burn wrote:So I was fiddling around with Rook while watching the original Mission Impossible movie tonight.

Not a big fan of the figure, I get what his alt mode is, I just don't like. Robot mode is ... okay.

What I do like though is you can basically turn him into a walking armoury. Combiner feet/hands can plug into each shoulder, you can then plug another weapon onto his back (the pack can then fold up for a over-the-shoulder weapon ... gosh ... that's something that could be done for Impactor) plus the obligatory weapons on his forearms and to top it off, one to plug into his foot.

He literally is a walking armory!

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722171)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 29th, 2015 @ 6:24pm CDT

SillySpringer wrote:I know that Takara's Motormaster probably has the fix too, but I hope Hasbro re-releases Motormaster with the fix, cuz the biggest reason why I've been hesitating getting him, is because of the hips. (The other reason is the horns, which look kinda weird to me, but I can fix that, by cutting them a bit, and painting them black.)

If I get confirmation that the new MM alongside optimus does have the fix, I will buy him and use the other one as a stand alone.
AS for the horns, I really like them. They're not the originals, but they look pretty sweet to me. I like updates more than straight up redoing the same thing over again

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722202)
Posted by RAR on August 29th, 2015 @ 9:21pm CDT

Any toy customizers able to confirm if the ratchets are identical across more than one mould of a toy or if they are unique - it just seems like perhaps there is some old Unicron Trilogy toy we might be able to disassemble and save a lot of both with some appropriately donated Female top* Ratchets.

*By this I mean the groove is at the top rather than the ridge.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722238)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 29th, 2015 @ 11:24pm CDT

FYI, if Hasbro re-releases Motormaster with the fixed hips, I have a feeling it won't be easy to tell, especially if you order online. When Takara did a running change with Jinbu from TF-Go, BBTS told me there was no way for them to know if they had the fixed figure.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722241)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 29th, 2015 @ 11:28pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:FYI, if Hasbro re-releases Motormaster with the fixed hips, I have a feeling it won't be easy to tell, especially if you order online. When Takara did a running change with Jinbu from TF-Go, BBTS told me there was no way for them to know if they had the fixed figure.

My cheerios taste a bit salty now...

Even so, not surprised. hard to tell if the fix is internal

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722264)
Posted by RAR on August 30th, 2015 @ 1:00am CDT

I don't know if they still do this but didn't they used to stamp in the boxes a impressed serial number that differs for each design change - and it may even be the case that the white or black numbers tampographed on the toys differ too (but that might be more to do with mould and factory origin IDs).

I've not had reason to look in recent times though I do recall it being the case on Cybertron toys.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722276)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 30th, 2015 @ 2:25am CDT

I think a new team of 'destructicons' or something like that, would be cool. Like weaponized construction vehicles (like BMach scavenger - an excellent figure) they could have rook (with just cannon/ports, instead of molded hands), swindle, a new mold based on BMach scavenger, a re-use of first-aid/re-mold of brawl, and hotspot with a big excavator arm with mini-guns attached to the bucket.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722346)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 30th, 2015 @ 11:26am CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:I think a new team of 'destructicons' or something like that, would be cool. Like weaponized construction vehicles (like BMach scavenger - an excellent figure) they could have rook (with just cannon/ports, instead of molded hands), swindle, a new mold based on BMach scavenger, a re-use of first-aid/re-mold of brawl, and hotspot with a big excavator arm with mini-guns attached to the bucket.

So DotM Wreckers style? I loved those guys. Possibly my favorite alt modes of all time. really. And Topspin was an incredible Deluxe too!

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722382)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 30th, 2015 @ 1:10pm CDT

RAR wrote:I don't know if they still do this but didn't they used to stamp in the boxes a impressed serial number that differs for each design change - and it may even be the case that the white or black numbers tampographed on the toys differ too (but that might be more to do with mould and factory origin IDs).

I've not had reason to look in recent times though I do recall it being the case on Cybertron toys.

Close: the ones on the box they were production run numbers. The last major time we paid close attention to them was for DotM Crankcase from 2011, to separate the long fingered from the (badly) clipped and retooled ones.

Nowadays, it seems Hasbro is doing more to help customers differentiate between variants, like placement of accessories in the box.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722404)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 30th, 2015 @ 2:20pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RAR wrote:I don't know if they still do this but didn't they used to stamp in the boxes a impressed serial number that differs for each design change - and it may even be the case that the white or black numbers tampographed on the toys differ too (but that might be more to do with mould and factory origin IDs).

I've not had reason to look in recent times though I do recall it being the case on Cybertron toys.

Close: the ones on the box they were production run numbers. The last major time we paid close attention to them was for DotM Crankcase from 2011, to separate the long fingered from the (badly) clipped and retooled ones.

Nowadays, it seems Hasbro is doing more to help customers differentiate between variants, like placement of accessories in the box.

I thought we did that for the fixed Brainstorm?

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722408)
Posted by no-one on August 30th, 2015 @ 2:25pm CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:I thought we did that for the fixed Brainstorm?

The fixed Brainstorm is super easy to spot. He has clear rubberbands holding his head in place.

I just spotted one last week and at a good discount at that.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722409)
Posted by william-james88 on August 30th, 2015 @ 2:26pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RAR wrote:I don't know if they still do this but didn't they used to stamp in the boxes a impressed serial number that differs for each design change - and it may even be the case that the white or black numbers tampographed on the toys differ too (but that might be more to do with mould and factory origin IDs).

I've not had reason to look in recent times though I do recall it being the case on Cybertron toys.

Close: the ones on the box they were production run numbers. The last major time we paid close attention to them was for DotM Crankcase from 2011, to separate the long fingered from the (badly) clipped and retooled ones.

Nowadays, it seems Hasbro is doing more to help customers differentiate between variants, like placement of accessories in the box.

This reddit thread was sent our way and does show the fix and the different number stamped in the back:

http://imgur.com/a/FwlfC

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722410)
Posted by steals_your_goats on August 30th, 2015 @ 2:27pm CDT

carytheone wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I thought we did that for the fixed Brainstorm?
The fixed Brainstorm is super easy to spot. He has clear rubberbands holding his head in place.

I just spotted one last week and at a good discount at that.

Am I the only one who has never had a problem with brainstorm? I constantly hear about a floppy neck but mine is nice and tight.

Re: Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime Factory Installed Hip Fix (1722412)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 30th, 2015 @ 2:30pm CDT

steals_your_goats wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I thought we did that for the fixed Brainstorm?
The fixed Brainstorm is super easy to spot. He has clear rubberbands holding his head in place.

I just spotted one last week and at a good discount at that.

Am I the only one who has never had a problem with brainstorm? I constantly hear about a floppy neck but mine is nice and tight.

Yeah, there was a large spectrum of qc issues;

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