"Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 Predacon General Cicadacon Toy Revealed
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Posted by Autobot N on October 22nd, 2015 @ 7:03pm CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on October 22nd, 2015 @ 7:19pm CDT
I guess making a jet the color of the toy would look too much like Armada Thrust. Though in this scheme, his jet mode looks like it's supposed to be yet another Armada Starscream, which could be fixed by changing the yellow bits to a dash of his original green.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 22nd, 2015 @ 7:23pm CDT
Then he would look like Christmas colors.Bumblevivisector wrote:OH, oh, right, the color scheme from The Agenda. For a second I thought he was supposed to be all bloody as a sort of Halloween gag.
I guess making a jet the color of the toy would look too much like Armada Thrust. Though in this scheme, his jet mode looks like it's supposed to be yet another Armada Starscream, which could be fixed by changing the yellow bits to a dash of his original green.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on October 22nd, 2015 @ 7:31pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 22nd, 2015 @ 7:34pm CDT
I'd... rather we not risk another incident like that again.SW's SilverHammer wrote:They should've seen if they could cast the wings in translucent plastic and then paint over them, similar to their machine wars skywarp.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 22nd, 2015 @ 7:38pm CDT
Posted by Lucky Logician on October 22nd, 2015 @ 7:45pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on October 22nd, 2015 @ 7:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I'd... rather we not risk another incident like that again.SW's SilverHammer wrote:They should've seen if they could cast the wings in translucent plastic and then paint over them, similar to their machine wars skywarp.
How so? I never heard anything bad happening to the figure. Also if this an aesthetic thing, deco-ed clear wings on a jet character that eventually becomes a bug might not be bad.
Posted by Mkall on October 22nd, 2015 @ 7:53pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 22nd, 2015 @ 8:14pm CDT
The specific areas of Skywarp's wings that were supposed to represent his teleporting ability (as in, these parts were supposed to be fully translucent with no paint apps) got painted over in solid white, ruining the effect.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'd... rather we not risk another incident like that again.SW's SilverHammer wrote:They should've seen if they could cast the wings in translucent plastic and then paint over them, similar to their machine wars skywarp.
How so? I never heard anything bad happening to the figure. Also if this an aesthetic thing, deco-ed clear wings on a jet character that eventually becomes a bug might not be bad.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on October 22nd, 2015 @ 8:22pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The specific areas of Skywarp's wings that were supposed to represent his teleporting ability (as in, these parts were supposed to be fully translucent with no paint apps) got painted over in solid white, ruining the effect.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'd... rather we not risk another incident like that again.SW's SilverHammer wrote:They should've seen if they could cast the wings in translucent plastic and then paint over them, similar to their machine wars skywarp.
How so? I never heard anything bad happening to the figure. Also if this an aesthetic thing, deco-ed clear wings on a jet character that eventually becomes a bug might not be bad.
Oh, see what I was thinking was cast the wings in translucent plastic and adding the line work of the bug wings to them.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 22nd, 2015 @ 8:31pm CDT
Yeah, but, with what happened last time they tried "translucent wings with paint pattern" I'd rather they not risk making something go wrong again (as so recently happened with the black helmet sides of everyone's TFSS G2 Starscream).SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The specific areas of Skywarp's wings that were supposed to represent his teleporting ability (as in, these parts were supposed to be fully translucent with no paint apps) got painted over in solid white, ruining the effect.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'd... rather we not risk another incident like that again.SW's SilverHammer wrote:They should've seen if they could cast the wings in translucent plastic and then paint over them, similar to their machine wars skywarp.
How so? I never heard anything bad happening to the figure. Also if this an aesthetic thing, deco-ed clear wings on a jet character that eventually becomes a bug might not be bad.
Oh, see what I was thinking was cast the wings in translucent plastic and adding the line work of the bug wings to them.
Plus, there's already a red and silver deco on the undersides of the wings, so that might show through the translucent topsides of the wings, making them look more red than clear.
Posted by Poyguimogul on October 22nd, 2015 @ 9:40pm CDT
Tarantulas was, at best interesting.
Ram horn was, at best awesome.
Cicadacon is at best, underwhelming.
*because of Windsweeper*
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 22nd, 2015 @ 10:09pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on October 23rd, 2015 @ 6:48am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Ya know, I've leveled my well-founded complaints, but, I just can't do it for this guy, every time I scroll down, I just go: "D@yum those wing decals"
Yea, I'm pretty happy with this guy. The only thing I would have wanted to see is a bit of black line detail to break up the face. That's it.
Posted by Autobot N on October 23rd, 2015 @ 7:16am CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on October 23rd, 2015 @ 8:42am CDT
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Cicadacon looks very good, but I think the best figure in the box set is Tarantulas. I've always loved the Rook mold, so any use of it is good in my book.
He's my favorite too but I feel that he's the only one who doesn't really fit as far as color goes. All the others are red black and silver and then there's me. neon green and purple.
Posted by Evil Eye on October 23rd, 2015 @ 8:48am CDT
AAAAND FUNPUB DROPS THE BALL AGAIN
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 23rd, 2015 @ 10:38am CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:So first they mistake the red light illuminating the Council as their actual colours (as opposed to, you know, colouring them like the actual toys). And now, as one of their special, limited edition convention exclusives, they give us...a straight redeco with absolutely no retooling whatsoever.
AAAAND FUNPUB DROPS THE BALL AGAIN
Well, what were you expecting, a drill gun? They said they were going to give us 5 new heads, so unless you're willing to skip the combiner head, one of them was always going to have a normal head
Besides, there's not much precedent (like, none at all actually to my knowledge) of them doing any re-tooling besides heads, so Ramhorns drill would be a first.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 23rd, 2015 @ 11:22am CDT
The drill isn't from Fun Pub. It's believed to be preexisting tooling from Hasbro/Takara that hasn't been used yet.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:So first they mistake the red light illuminating the Council as their actual colours (as opposed to, you know, colouring them like the actual toys). And now, as one of their special, limited edition convention exclusives, they give us...a straight redeco with absolutely no retooling whatsoever.
AAAAND FUNPUB DROPS THE BALL AGAIN
Well, what were you expecting, a drill gun? They said they were going to give us 5 new heads, so unless you're willing to skip the combiner head, one of them was always going to have a normal head
Besides, there's not much precedent (like, none at all actually to my knowledge) of them doing any re-tooling besides heads, so Ramhorns drill would be a first.
In the past, Fun Pub has retooled new wings for BotCon 2007 Thrust, and a new neck piece for BotCon 2014 Scorponok. But other than those, it's mostly been new heads.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 23rd, 2015 @ 11:30am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The drill isn't from Fun Pub. It's believed to be preexisting tooling from Hasbro/Takara that hasn't been used yet.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:So first they mistake the red light illuminating the Council as their actual colours (as opposed to, you know, colouring them like the actual toys). And now, as one of their special, limited edition convention exclusives, they give us...a straight redeco with absolutely no retooling whatsoever.
AAAAND FUNPUB DROPS THE BALL AGAIN
Well, what were you expecting, a drill gun? They said they were going to give us 5 new heads, so unless you're willing to skip the combiner head, one of them was always going to have a normal head
Besides, there's not much precedent (like, none at all actually to my knowledge) of them doing any re-tooling besides heads, so Ramhorns drill would be a first.
In the past, Fun Pub has retooled new wings for BotCon 2007 Thrust, and a new neck piece for BotCon 2014 Scorponok. But other than those, it's mostly been new heads.
I buy that, trust has/tak to have thought ahead on the technobots;
But, yeah, no real precedent for new parts aside from heads;
Should really reign in those expectations
Posted by Sabrblade on October 23rd, 2015 @ 11:44am CDT
You do know that in the cartoon it was their bodies that glowed red when the meeting began, right? We see them enter the room colored gray, and when they each turn on a red light on the table, their bodies physically glow red upon their touching the table lights. The lights on the table aren't illuminating the three as we see the bright overhead white light shine directly on Ram Horn and Sea Clamp, revealing them to still be red when exposed to that much brighter light than the little lights on the table. In short, the three are Color Changers.Delta Magnus wrote:So first they mistake the red light illuminating the Council as their actual colours (as opposed to, you know, colouring them like the actual toys). And now, as one of their special, limited edition convention exclusives, they give us...a straight redeco with absolutely no retooling whatsoever.
AAAAND FUNPUB DROPS THE BALL AGAIN
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 23rd, 2015 @ 12:14pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The drill isn't from Fun Pub. It's believed to be preexisting tooling from Hasbro/Takara that hasn't been used yet.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:So first they mistake the red light illuminating the Council as their actual colours (as opposed to, you know, colouring them like the actual toys). And now, as one of their special, limited edition convention exclusives, they give us...a straight redeco with absolutely no retooling whatsoever.
AAAAND FUNPUB DROPS THE BALL AGAIN
Well, what were you expecting, a drill gun? They said they were going to give us 5 new heads, so unless you're willing to skip the combiner head, one of them was always going to have a normal head
Besides, there's not much precedent (like, none at all actually to my knowledge) of them doing any re-tooling besides heads, so Ramhorns drill would be a first.
In the past, Fun Pub has retooled new wings for BotCon 2007 Thrust, and a new neck piece for BotCon 2014 Scorponok. But other than those, it's mostly been new heads.
I buy that, trust has/tak to have thought ahead on the technobots;
But, yeah, no real precedent for new parts aside from heads;
Should really reign in those expectations
Let us not forget that there are several toys that are just straight repaints. They cannot afford to do full on retools. Last year Packrat was a straight redeco as was Oilmaster without his shell.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 23rd, 2015 @ 12:50pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The drill isn't from Fun Pub. It's believed to be preexisting tooling from Hasbro/Takara that hasn't been used yet.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:So first they mistake the red light illuminating the Council as their actual colours (as opposed to, you know, colouring them like the actual toys). And now, as one of their special, limited edition convention exclusives, they give us...a straight redeco with absolutely no retooling whatsoever.
AAAAND FUNPUB DROPS THE BALL AGAIN
Well, what were you expecting, a drill gun? They said they were going to give us 5 new heads, so unless you're willing to skip the combiner head, one of them was always going to have a normal head
Besides, there's not much precedent (like, none at all actually to my knowledge) of them doing any re-tooling besides heads, so Ramhorns drill would be a first.
In the past, Fun Pub has retooled new wings for BotCon 2007 Thrust, and a new neck piece for BotCon 2014 Scorponok. But other than those, it's mostly been new heads.
I buy that, trust has/tak to have thought ahead on the technobots;
But, yeah, no real precedent for new parts aside from heads;
Should really reign in those expectations
Let us not forget that there are several toys that are just straight repaints. They cannot afford to do full on retools. Last year Packrat was a straight redeco as was Oilmaster without his shell.
Exactly, the point is: there are no re-toolings, reign in your expectations
Posted by Sabrblade on October 23rd, 2015 @ 1:50pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 23rd, 2015 @ 1:53pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The drill isn't from Fun Pub. It's believed to be preexisting tooling from Hasbro/Takara that hasn't been used yet.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:So first they mistake the red light illuminating the Council as their actual colours (as opposed to, you know, colouring them like the actual toys). And now, as one of their special, limited edition convention exclusives, they give us...a straight redeco with absolutely no retooling whatsoever.
AAAAND FUNPUB DROPS THE BALL AGAIN
Well, what were you expecting, a drill gun? They said they were going to give us 5 new heads, so unless you're willing to skip the combiner head, one of them was always going to have a normal head
Besides, there's not much precedent (like, none at all actually to my knowledge) of them doing any re-tooling besides heads, so Ramhorns drill would be a first.
In the past, Fun Pub has retooled new wings for BotCon 2007 Thrust, and a new neck piece for BotCon 2014 Scorponok. But other than those, it's mostly been new heads.
I buy that, trust has/tak to have thought ahead on the technobots;
But, yeah, no real precedent for new parts aside from heads;
Should really reign in those expectations
Let us not forget that there are several toys that are just straight repaints. They cannot afford to do full on retools. Last year Packrat was a straight redeco as was Oilmaster without his shell.
Exactly, the point is: there are no re-toolings, reign in your expectations
But this one repaint still does look very good though. Love the paint on the wings
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 23rd, 2015 @ 2:02pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The drill isn't from Fun Pub. It's believed to be preexisting tooling from Hasbro/Takara that hasn't been used yet.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:So first they mistake the red light illuminating the Council as their actual colours (as opposed to, you know, colouring them like the actual toys). And now, as one of their special, limited edition convention exclusives, they give us...a straight redeco with absolutely no retooling whatsoever.
AAAAND FUNPUB DROPS THE BALL AGAIN
Well, what were you expecting, a drill gun? They said they were going to give us 5 new heads, so unless you're willing to skip the combiner head, one of them was always going to have a normal head
Besides, there's not much precedent (like, none at all actually to my knowledge) of them doing any re-tooling besides heads, so Ramhorns drill would be a first.
In the past, Fun Pub has retooled new wings for BotCon 2007 Thrust, and a new neck piece for BotCon 2014 Scorponok. But other than those, it's mostly been new heads.
I buy that, trust has/tak to have thought ahead on the technobots;
But, yeah, no real precedent for new parts aside from heads;
Should really reign in those expectations
Let us not forget that there are several toys that are just straight repaints. They cannot afford to do full on retools. Last year Packrat was a straight redeco as was Oilmaster without his shell.
Exactly, the point is: there are no re-toolings, reign in your expectations
But this one repaint still does look very good though. Love the paint on the wings
The wings look great, everything else is lost in the red, so, not really.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 23rd, 2015 @ 3:49pm CDT
But these three red guys will display really really well together. I hope they do more unified color schemes in the future... Hasbro and Takara included.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 23rd, 2015 @ 3:52pm CDT
This is the first time in a while that I've seen someone praise a combiner for having a coherent color scheme. That Victorion does is among the many complaints people have about her deco.gothsaurus wrote:Actually, I think these guys having the same red color scheme may be what wins me over. That's been a huge complaint with combiners, box sets, etc. They don't look like an integrated, coherent design.
But these three red guys will display really really well together. I hope they do more unified color schemes in the future... Hasbro and Takara included.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 23rd, 2015 @ 4:11pm CDT
But yeah, a good integrated color scheme can do wonders for a combiner. I think God Neptune is the best example of a winning, integrated combiner scheme out there. (Aside from Devastator, of course.) There are a number of jewel-tone accent colors to give each toy a little different personality (gold, copper, dark teal), but there is an overall white and gray unified primary scheme. Looks great combined and split up. You can tell they are a team.
Actually thinking back, ALL of the seacon variants have had pretty nicely integrated color schemes... right down to the recent Kabaya one.
Superion also a great example — sporting an almost monochromatic red scheme, though there are a few gold accents. Rail Racer also fantastic in blue and white. PowerCore dino combiner also integrated nicely. (I thought those were all very under-appreciated. Very cheap and fun sets. Great bang for the buck.)
Hope Hasbro is reading this. There have been a few shining examples of a great color scheme out of a LOAD of hodgepodge looking mismatched frankensteins.
Posted by Bed Bugs on October 23rd, 2015 @ 5:02pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 23rd, 2015 @ 5:11pm CDT
Mine's less of a prediction but more of a preference: Hot Spot. For five reasons.Bed Bugs wrote:So what's your prediction for Sea Clamp?
1. A fire truck and a lobster are both affiliated with water.
2. The Hot Spot mold has thin legs and broad shoulders, much like what Sea Clamp's original toy had.
3. Using the Hot Spot mold and not the Onslaught version of the mold would keep it from being too similar to the TFSS 4.0 Thunder Mayhem combiner that uses the Onslaught torso.
4. I really don't think any of the torso molds are appropriate enough matches for Sea Clamp, but the Hot Spot mold seems to be the least-inappropriate for the three reasons given above, for the one reason I'm about to give below, and because I really don't see the Optimus/Motormaster mold working for Sea Clamp very well, nor the Silverbolt/Cyclonus mold (Sky Lynx wouldn't be available for the Club to use just yet).
5. The Hot Spot mold can do this:
Just fold down the ladder to make it less scorpion-like and more lobster-like.
Posted by Bed Bugs on October 23rd, 2015 @ 5:24pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 23rd, 2015 @ 5:46pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Actually, I think these guys having the same red color scheme may be what wins me over. That's been a huge complaint with combiners, box sets, etc. They don't look like an integrated, coherent design.
But these three red guys will display really really well together. I hope they do more unified color schemes in the future... Hasbro and Takara included.
That's why I really like Victorion with the matching scheme and the Aerielbots and protectobots all have fairly uniform white and red decos (with blue thrown in for Defensor). Makes them look pretty slick and uniform
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 23rd, 2015 @ 11:00pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:This is the first time in a while that I've seen someone praise a combiner for having a coherent color scheme. That Victorion does is among the many complaints people have about her deco.gothsaurus wrote:Actually, I think these guys having the same red color scheme may be what wins me over. That's been a huge complaint with combiners, box sets, etc. They don't look like an integrated, coherent design.
But these three red guys will display really really well together. I hope they do more unified color schemes in the future... Hasbro and Takara included.
I too like it, but the mock-up paint lost points for being garish, almost neon versions of the color (at least the pics make it seem that way, even if it isn't) and the scheme overall really could use a tertiary color to help break up the red and teal
Posted by Shockwave 8 on October 24th, 2015 @ 8:03pm CDT
Posted by DeadCaL on October 24th, 2015 @ 9:33pm CDT
Kikadacon?, Kisadacon? Sisadacon? Sikadacon?
Posted by Sabrblade on October 24th, 2015 @ 9:35pm CDT
"Sih-kay-duh-con" (as in "cicada + con").DeadCaL wrote:Exactly how do you pronounce Cicadacon?
Kikadacon?, Kisadacon? Sisadacon? Sikadacon?
Posted by Henry921 on October 25th, 2015 @ 1:03am CDT
Maybe something for the Subscription Service in the future...
Posted by Sabrblade on October 25th, 2015 @ 11:23am CDT
Skydive's wings are more akin to those of MW Skywarp/Thundercracker. Perhaps Air Raid or Firefly would have fit better for MW Megatron/Megaplex.Henry921 wrote:Wow. This guy would've made a great Machine Wars Megatron.
Maybe something for the Subscription Service in the future...
Posted by Bed Bugs on October 25th, 2015 @ 11:15pm CDT
Totally going to be in one of the Souvenir Sets. I guarantee it. It'll sport the Transmetal Paint Job too, just like Tarantulas.
Posted by Henry921 on October 26th, 2015 @ 12:50am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Skydive's wings are more akin to those of MW Skywarp/Thundercracker. Perhaps Air Raid or Firefly would have fit better for MW Megatron/Megaplex.Henry921 wrote:Wow. This guy would've made a great Machine Wars Megatron.
Maybe something for the Subscription Service in the future...
Oh, but the headsculpt. In a solid color it looks very Megatron-ish.
I probably never noticed before because my Skydive spends so much time as a leg.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 26th, 2015 @ 9:49am CDT
Not unless this is another pre-beast set like 2006 was. No beast modes for the show characters.Bed Bugs wrote:I still think it's not a coincidence that David Kaye is coming to Botcon this year and that prototype of FOC Grimlock with the Beast Wars Megatron hasn't been released.
Totally going to be in one of the Souvenir Sets. I guarantee it. It'll sport the Transmetal Paint Job too, just like Tarantulas.
And if it's a story about the Council, don't expect to see Megatron either. He was beneath them. A lowlife criminal thug, far from a politician.
Posted by Henry921 on October 26th, 2015 @ 9:54am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Not unless this is another pre-beast set like 2006 was. No beast modes for the show characters.Bed Bugs wrote:I still think it's not a coincidence that David Kaye is coming to Botcon this year and that prototype of FOC Grimlock with the Beast Wars Megatron hasn't been released.
Totally going to be in one of the Souvenir Sets. I guarantee it. It'll sport the Transmetal Paint Job too, just like Tarantulas.
And if it's a story about the Council, don't expect to see Megatron either. He was beneath them. A lowlife criminal thug, far from a politician.
Well, not entirely. He was the protege of Cryotek, the most notorious criminal on Cybertron. Before that he was apparently a field commander and had a fight with another of the Council's agents, Magmatron, so presumably they were aware he had some talent.
They also acknowledge Megatron as "brilliant" during the Agenda, so he must've done something prior to stealing the golden disk that impressed them.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 26th, 2015 @ 10:03am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 26th, 2015 @ 10:06am CDT
That sounds like a blending of continuities since the Cryotek thing is from the 3H/Fun Pub fiction (which has Magmatron as a good guy Dinobot) while the Magmatron thing is from IDW's Beast Era fiction (which excised Cryotek from Megatron's backstory).Henry921 wrote:Well, not entirely. He was the protege of Cryotek, the most notorious criminal on Cybertron. Before that he was apparently a field commander and had a fight with another of the Council's agents, Magmatron, so presumably they were aware he had some talent.
I took their acknowledging his brilliance being in regards to his successful theft of the disk itself.Henry921 wrote:They also acknowledge Megatron as "brilliant" during the Agenda, so he must've done something prior to stealing the golden disk that impressed them.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 26th, 2015 @ 11:40am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I took their acknowledging his brilliance being in regards to his successful theft of the disk itself.Henry921 wrote:They also acknowledge Megatron as "brilliant" during the Agenda, so he must've done something prior to stealing the golden disk that impressed them.
Even so, they did acknowledge it, and if he did take it and they were aware of the ramifications of it, then they realized how dangerous he could be, let alone his name and where it came from
Posted by Bed Bugs on October 26th, 2015 @ 11:54am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Not unless this is another pre-beast set like 2006 was. No beast modes for the show characters.Bed Bugs wrote:I still think it's not a coincidence that David Kaye is coming to Botcon this year and that prototype of FOC Grimlock with the Beast Wars Megatron hasn't been released.
Totally going to be in one of the Souvenir Sets. I guarantee it. It'll sport the Transmetal Paint Job too, just like Tarantulas.
And if it's a story about the Council, don't expect to see Megatron either. He was beneath them. A lowlife criminal thug, far from a politician.
Considering Tarantulas and Ravage both died in Beast Wars, it's logical to assume that Botcon 2016's story takes place BEFORE Botcon 2006's.
It's not that far of a stretch to assume that some Maximals and Predacons may have robotic (G1) beast modes. You're also forgetting that Tarantulas was put into Megatron's crew as a spy for the Council. This story is probably going to establish how Tarantulas infiltrated Megatron's crew in the first place. So even though he was a criminal thug, the connection is still there and makes sense to show its establishment.
It's because of the fiction, the mold still being unused and existing, and David Kaye coming as a guest that it almost has to happen. Plus Fun Pub knows Megatron will sell, even if it is a mold that people knock like FOC Grimlock.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 26th, 2015 @ 12:10pm CDT
There was no question of that.Bed Bugs wrote:Considering Tarantulas and Ravage both died in Beast Wars, it's logical to assume that Botcon 2016's story takes place BEFORE Botcon 2006's.
You're point being...?Bed Bugs wrote:It's not that far of a stretch to assume that some Maximals and Predacons may have robotic (G1) beast modes. You're also forgetting that Tarantulas was put into Megatron's crew as a spy for the Council. This story is probably going to establish how Tarantulas infiltrated Megatron's crew in the first place. So even though he was a criminal thug, the connection is still there and makes sense to show its establishment.
Or, David Kaye's coming because of the anniversary (as is Alec Willows) and because he tends to be an easy-to-get guest for BotCon (as demonstrated by how frequent his BotCon appearances have been in recent years when his characters were of little importance to those years).Bed Bugs wrote:It's because of the fiction, the mold still being unused and existing, and David Kaye coming as a guest that it almost has to happen. Plus Fun Pub knows Megatron will sell, even if it is a mold that people knock like FOC Grimlock.
Why, BotCon 2012 had both Garry Chalk and David Kaye as guests in honor of the 10th anniversary of Armada, yet that year saw no Armada Optimus or Megatron toys (let alone any Armada homages).
At best, what we might get (that's related to David Kaye's appearance) is a BW-themed live script reading should any other BW cast members get announced as convention guests.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 26th, 2015 @ 12:20pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I took their acknowledging his brilliance being in regards to his successful theft of the disk itself.Henry921 wrote:They also acknowledge Megatron as "brilliant" during the Agenda, so he must've done something prior to stealing the golden disk that impressed them.
Even so, they did acknowledge it, and if he did take it and they were aware of the ramifications of it, then they realized how dangerous he could be, let alone his name and where it came from
I'm sure they knew of it on some level b/c in season 3 tarantulus tries on multiple occasions to screw with the timeline siting that he and the council would be safe from the timestorm wiping out the max/preds b/c he and the council have a different ancestor (Unicron?)
Plus Megatron was absolutely brilliant, he played everyone like pawns in a d=game of chess throughout the show. Even if all it was was the understanding of how everyone would respond to things, or knowing how everyone worked, that still would have made him a tactical genius on the flied of battle.