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Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet

Transformers News: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet

Thursday, May 25th, 2017 2:46PM CDT

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After the sudden reveal of MP-39 Sunstreaker from Takara Tomy Transformers, we now have a cautious rumour about an upcoming figure in the same line. Transformers fan Jun Hasui on Facebook has shared with us an image of promotional material for the upcoming Tokyo Toy Show (more info on the event here), which appears to show the silhouette of both robot and car mode for what looks decidedly very much like Jazz.

Check out the image below, let us know what you think, and stay tuned for updates as the story develops in the next couple of weeks!

UPDATE: Thanks to Italian fan Andrea Cheem Stefanelli, among others, we have confirmation that this was a modified image showing a composite teaser. Thanks for playing!

Transformers News: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet


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Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884230)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 25th, 2017 @ 2:50pm CDT
If true, notice the cartoon-accurate lack of door wings. ;)
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884231)
Posted by MrBlack on May 25th, 2017 @ 2:53pm CDT
Va'al wrote:
Image


Who's that Pokémon?!
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884233)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 25th, 2017 @ 2:54pm CDT
MrBlack wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Image


Who's that Pokémon?!
IT'S PIKACHU!
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884237)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on May 25th, 2017 @ 3:00pm CDT
Sam on TFW has found that its possibly fake
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884238)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 25th, 2017 @ 3:02pm CDT
Hmm, this will be interesting. I just hope the Martini sponsorship on him doesn't give us a repeat of the Exhaust fiasco.

For that matter I hope they don't skimp on real-world car details- I'd much rather they went the Wheeljack route of sacrificing a bit of cartoon accuracy in robot mode for the properly decorated vehicle mode.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884243)
Posted by WeatherManNX01 on May 25th, 2017 @ 3:16pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Hmm, this will be interesting. I just hope the Martini sponsorship on him doesn't give us a repeat of the Exhaust fiasco.

For that matter I hope they don't skimp on real-world car details- I'd much rather they went the Wheeljack route of sacrificing a bit of cartoon accuracy in robot mode for the properly decorated vehicle mode.

Unlike tobacco advertising, alcohol advertising is not universally banned (because nothing goes together like drinking and driving), and Martini is still a regular sponsor in motorsport. Whether or not they have permission to replicate the Martini stripes is another matter, but it shouldn't hinder the sale of the figure in most countries.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884252)
Posted by Relic0037 on May 25th, 2017 @ 3:41pm CDT
Bumblebee21 wrote:Sam on TFW has found that its possibly fake


Hope not. It would be nice to finally get an MP Jazz, but I've read a few rumors about MP figures over the years that didn't pan out.

We shall see.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884255)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 25th, 2017 @ 3:47pm CDT
Yep, it's a fake -- a composite of: the Sunbow model; the real flyer; and a photo from the MP-27 Ironhide reveal.

But eventually these rumours will be true, because it's only a matter of time until Takara makes an MP Jazz.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884257)
Posted by Hydrargyrus on May 25th, 2017 @ 3:56pm CDT
Yeah, look at the quality difference. Looks a lot like a photoshop.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884262)
Posted by Va'al on May 25th, 2017 @ 4:08pm CDT
Story has been updated!
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884263)
Posted by Kurona on May 25th, 2017 @ 4:09pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Story has been updated!

That thumbnail... how cruel you are.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884266)
Posted by Va'al on May 25th, 2017 @ 4:18pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
Va'al wrote:Story has been updated!

That thumbnail... how cruel you are.


*jazz hands*
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884290)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 25th, 2017 @ 5:53pm CDT
Lol it looked so fake from the start. Didn't believe it one bit. I only would even consider it being real if they didn't use a damn cartoon model outline. Plus, it's a baby toy thing with a Masterpiece outline. That just looks ridiculous.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884291)
Posted by Burn on May 25th, 2017 @ 5:59pm CDT
SillyMcGilly wrote:Lol it looked so fake from the start. Didn't believe it one bit. I only would even consider it being real if they didn't use a damn cartoon model outline. Plus, it's a baby toy thing with a Masterpiece outline. That just looks ridiculous.

And yet, there are grown adults out there that even when presented with the facts, still believe it.

I mean sure, Jazz is most likely going to get the MP treatment at some point, that came out in the interview a few days ago that he intends to give the Autobot cars the MP treatment and someone just decided to whip something up for some lulz.

People really need to learn how to research and not believe the first thing they read.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884293)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 25th, 2017 @ 6:05pm CDT
I figured it was fake, but I still got my hopes up. I'm like a Bozo The Clown. MP Rumors can punch me in the face as many times as they want, but I'll still be right there on board for the next one.

I want to believe.

Burn wrote:
SillyMcGilly wrote:Lol it looked so fake from the start. Didn't believe it one bit. I only would even consider it being real if they didn't use a damn cartoon model outline. Plus, it's a baby toy thing with a Masterpiece outline. That just looks ridiculous.

And yet, there are grown adults out there that even when presented with the facts, still believe it.

I mean sure, Jazz is most likely going to get the MP treatment at some point, that came out in the interview a few days ago that he intends to give the Autobot cars the MP treatment and someone just decided to whip something up for some lulz.

People really need to learn how to research and not believe the first thing they read.


-puckers lips- Fake News! (Just Kidding, just kidding. :-P )
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884294)
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 25th, 2017 @ 6:11pm CDT
Relic0037 wrote:
It would be nice to finally get an MP Jazz.



It's your lucky day!
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884295)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 25th, 2017 @ 6:17pm CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:-puckers lips- Fake News! (Just Kidding, just kidding. :-P )


Thanks. Some idiot with an obsession with green and purple was starting to foam at the mouth. Wait...

(Just kidding.) :-P
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884298)
Posted by Burn on May 25th, 2017 @ 6:24pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:
It would be nice to finally get an MP Jazz.



It's your lucky day!


Keep the 3P stuff in the 3P threads please.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884350)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 25th, 2017 @ 11:18pm CDT
at least theres the Transform and Roll Out Hova
its pretty awesome for a masterpiece Jazz
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884358)
Posted by AutobotJazz on May 26th, 2017 @ 1:39am CDT
I just don't want to see 8 more reissues of Prime and 6 new seekers before we see Jazz.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884474)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 26th, 2017 @ 1:35pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:at least theres the Transform and Roll Out Hova
its pretty awesome for a masterpiece Jazz


Please. Just. Look. One. Post. Above yours.

Burn wrote:Keep the 3P stuff in the 3P threads please.


:-P

Though, there's no images or links so I don't see the big deal.

Also, Since this is an MP thread, I figured it'd be as good of a place as any to post this. I really am not very interested in the G1 style MP figures. Or even the Beast Wars ones. I mean, they are cool, but they are supposed to look simple while also having very complicated transformations at the same time, so you end up with boxes, spheres, and smooth panels with a bunch of hinges and transformation joints showing, and that bothers me.

Instead of simplistic designs in a complicated figure, I think this style of line works way better for the movie designs. They are complicated designs that need complicated transformations to look good and accurate without a bunch of kibble, and this works OH so perfectly. So at all you G1 and Beast Wars Masterpiece collectors, more power to you, but I like my Beast Wars and G1 designs easier to transform and go "kwa cho cho" with. ;)^
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884477)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 26th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CDT
Well, there is the movie mp line for those who prefer the look of a tuna can in a shredder
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884481)
Posted by Kurona on May 26th, 2017 @ 2:14pm CDT
Desslok2201 wrote:Well, there is the movie mp line for those who prefer the look of a tuna can in a shredder

:lol:
Being fair though, of the revival's three figures so far two of them are based on some of the better movie designs.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884482)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 26th, 2017 @ 2:25pm CDT
Desslok2201 wrote:Well, there is the movie mp line for those who prefer the look of a tuna can in a shredder


I was referring to those. I guess not saying "MPM" in my post was a huge mistake. :-P

And I like the movie designs a lot. They just look cooler. I am with Michael Bay on this. I like the movie designs better than giant boxes.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884484)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 26th, 2017 @ 2:33pm CDT
I was just teasing
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884499)
Posted by Burn on May 26th, 2017 @ 4:34pm CDT
SillyMcGilly wrote:Though, there's no images or links so I don't see the big deal.

There are. Open your eyes.

Also, Since this is an MP thread, I figured it'd be as good of a place as any to post this.

Or, you could open your eyes, and use this thread.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884505)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 26th, 2017 @ 4:59pm CDT
Burn wrote:
SillyMcGilly wrote:Though, there's no images or links so I don't see the big deal.

There are. Open your eyes.


I meant in Markus' post. Please, open your eyes as well! :lol:

And thanks, believe it or not I did search for one a while ago, and figured this was the best thread for it because I guess there were so few people posting on that one and it wasn't very visible. F me.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884507)
Posted by Burn on May 26th, 2017 @ 5:00pm CDT
SillyMcGilly wrote:
Burn wrote:
SillyMcGilly wrote:Though, there's no images or links so I don't see the big deal.

There are. Open your eyes.


I meant in Markus' post. Please, open your eyes as well! :lol:

Not in the mood for your shit kid. You quoted me, knowing all too well I was replying to IH. End of discussion. If you feel the need to further it, take it to PM.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884512)
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on May 26th, 2017 @ 5:40pm CDT
I am hoping for a MP Arcee someday
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884513)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 26th, 2017 @ 5:53pm CDT
All in good time.... I still need Gears first
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884515)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 26th, 2017 @ 5:57pm CDT
On a serious note, does anyone who pays attention know if they are still trying to follow the same release schedule from several years ago with the 2 lg, 3 smaller (car) size per year?
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884516)
Posted by Kurona on May 26th, 2017 @ 6:01pm CDT
I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884517)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 26th, 2017 @ 6:03pm CDT
I'm surprised Glyph hasn't happened yet. And I'm on board with all the things you mentioned
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884518)
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on May 26th, 2017 @ 6:07pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!

same here, all we got is Road Rage....and...that's it i think
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884542)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 26th, 2017 @ 8:12pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!
I sincerely doubt they would do Small Foot, what with the whole split ownership issue of the GoBots property. The old e-HOBBY set left the individual toys nameless, with a group bio that was worded ambiguously to only imply that the six were Tonka GoBots. It was the-now-no-longer-official Fun Pub who canonized the toys' intended identities.

I mean, I'd love for it to happen, but I really don't think it will.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884543)
Posted by Kurona on May 26th, 2017 @ 8:21pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!
I sincerely doubt they would do Small Foot, what with the whole split ownership issue of the GoBots property. The old e-HOBBY set left the individual toys nameless, with a group bio that was worded ambiguously to only imply that the six were Tonka GoBots. It was the-now-no-longer-official Fun Pub who canonized the toys' intended identities.

I mean, I'd love for it to happen, but I really don't think it will.

Damn, that's a shame. Are there any other female redeco/retools they could do out of Season 1/2 characters?
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884547)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 26th, 2017 @ 8:58pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!
I sincerely doubt they would do Small Foot, what with the whole split ownership issue of the GoBots property. The old e-HOBBY set left the individual toys nameless, with a group bio that was worded ambiguously to only imply that the six were Tonka GoBots. It was the-now-no-longer-official Fun Pub who canonized the toys' intended identities.

I mean, I'd love for it to happen, but I really don't think it will.

Damn, that's a shame. Are there any other female redeco/retools they could do out of Season 1/2 characters?

i want to see the entire first 3 runs of the G1 characters and any repaints that were made as masterpieces
but seeing how we see only a couple a year it would take 20 years to get most of the main characters done :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884552)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 26th, 2017 @ 9:27pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!
I sincerely doubt they would do Small Foot, what with the whole split ownership issue of the GoBots property. The old e-HOBBY set left the individual toys nameless, with a group bio that was worded ambiguously to only imply that the six were Tonka GoBots. It was the-now-no-longer-official Fun Pub who canonized the toys' intended identities.

I mean, I'd love for it to happen, but I really don't think it will.

Damn, that's a shame. Are there any other female redeco/retools they could do out of Season 1/2 characters?
Glyph from Bumble and Howlback from Ravage are the only doable fembots from MP molds of 1984-1985 characters. Road Rage from Tracks, too, but she's already been done.

Rosanna and Flip Sides could be made from Rewind/Eject, but they're 1986 characters, so we'd have to wait on them.

Most G1-toy-based fembots were made from post-1985 toy designs.

Though, there is a female Devastator off in some unspecified universe, so the Titan class mold could serve that purpose.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884555)
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on May 26th, 2017 @ 9:51pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Though, there is a female Devastator off in some unspecified universe, so the Titan class mold could serve that purpose.

Citation needed please, is this a Funpub thing?
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884556)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 26th, 2017 @ 10:02pm CDT
GalvatronG1 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Though, there is a female Devastator off in some unspecified universe, so the Titan class mold could serve that purpose.

Citation needed please, is this a Funpub thing?
Yep, a Fun Pub thing. In the final SG prose story, "Coalescence", SG Demolishor steps through a portal into a universe where a Devastator is destroying Crystal City, and whom the story's narration refers to as "she" and "her" several times. The scene is brief, though, and while the text is ambiguous I got the impression that either the Devastator or some force opposing her killed Demolishor shortly after his arrival.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884951)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 29th, 2017 @ 11:52am CDT
I wouldn't mind some more Diaclone-based MP redecos/retools being made into fembots, though it's unlikely given that just about every Diaclone deco has an existing bio courtesy of Takara/e-HOBBY.

That said, if they retconned Sunstreaker Police Type out of existence and made the inevitable release of the police deco into a new character fembot, I'd buy that (assuming the retooling was Road Rage level or better).
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884952)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 29th, 2017 @ 11:59am CDT
Since Artfire is now out in the wild, how long does anyone suppose it'll be until we see Hauler?
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884954)
Posted by Kurona on May 29th, 2017 @ 12:41pm CDT
Desslok2201 wrote:Since Artfire is now out in the wild, how long does anyone suppose it'll be until we see Hauler?

Month or two? I'm surprised how quick they got out three variants of the mold already; so by that rate it surely shouldn't take long for Hauler.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884989)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 29th, 2017 @ 5:40pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:I wouldn't mind some more Diaclone-based MP redecos/retools being made into fembots, though it's unlikely given that just about every Diaclone deco has an existing bio courtesy of Takara/e-HOBBY.


There are still some left: Hoist, Trailbreaker, Skids and Crosscut have 2 to 4 color schemes each, including the TF decos. Not to mention all the e-Hobby original decos. And it's not just them FunPub has put some Diaclone decos to use as well.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884991)
Posted by Kurona on May 29th, 2017 @ 5:46pm CDT
Have we gotten any original characters from Masterpiece? As far as I'm aware all the recolours previously had characters assigned to the original toy version. Aside from Dark Rodimus, but...
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1884993)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 29th, 2017 @ 6:06pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Have we gotten any original characters from Masterpiece? As far as I'm aware all the recolours previously had characters assigned to the original toy version. Aside from Dark Rodimus, but...

Where was LoudPedal ever mentioned previously? Exhaust, too, for that matter
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1885014)
Posted by Overcracker on May 29th, 2017 @ 8:10pm CDT
Where was LoudPedal ever mentioned previously? Exhaust, too, for that matter


Both of those are throwbacks to Diaclone toys. While the names were created for the MPs. The characters come from the Diaclone colors of the original Tracks and Wheeljack.

So far, we have yet to get a completely 100% original character for an MP that has no reference to previous toys.

The Sunstreaker mold may be the first, since he was not repainted into anything or anyone after being Sunstreaker in G1 and has only his red Diaclone version.

But none of the other Lamborghinis from G1 or Diaclone, have roof / windshield chests like Sunstreaker. We may just get his Red Diaclone self and then its up in the air, what other character they can repaint him into.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1885019)
Posted by Kurona on May 29th, 2017 @ 8:33pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:
Where was LoudPedal ever mentioned previously? Exhaust, too, for that matter


Both of those are throwbacks to Diaclone toys. While the names were created for the MPs. The characters come from the Diaclone colors of the original Tracks and Wheeljack.

So far, we have yet to get a completely 100% original character for an MP that has no reference to previous toys.

The Sunstreaker mold may be the first, since he was not repainted into anything or anyone after being Sunstreaker in G1 and has only his red Diaclone version.

But none of the other Lamborghinis from G1 or Diaclone, have roof / windshield chests like Sunstreaker. We may just get his Red Diaclone self and then its up in the air, what other character they can repaint him into.

Technically though I was referring to any new character whether they're inspired by an old deco or not. So for instance Road Rage and Clamp Down are not new characters from MP as they were originally from E-Hobby; but Exhaust and Loud Pedal are new characters from MP as those decos (and for that matter, any name or personality conveyed) were not used in Transformers before. Very amusing coincidence in TFCC's Toxitron story notwithstanding.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1885020)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 29th, 2017 @ 8:48pm CDT
To be fair, the decos that ended up as Exhaust and Loudpedal were featured in US fiction before, the former as an Easter Egg in the IDW Dreamwave comics, and the latter as the character Vivisect by FunPub. The Masterpiece characterizations are all new however. For that matter, so is MP-18B Bluestreak's (featuring a slight hint towards Diaclone no less), separate from the US silver Bluestreak.

So three "new" characters, or names at the very least, in total.
Re: Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet (1885041)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 29th, 2017 @ 10:27pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:To be fair, the decos that ended up as Exhaust and Loudpedal were featured in US fiction before, the former as an Easter Egg in the IDW Dreamwave comics, and the latter as the character Vivisect by FunPub.
FWIW, after MP Loudpedal was revealed, the author of Toxitron's TCC prose story amended the story to change Vivisector's name to Loudpedal, so as to keep one consistent name across the board for that Diaclone-based deco.

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