Debunked: No Takara Tomy Masterpiece Jazz Yet

If true, notice the cartoon-accurate lack of door wings.

Va'al wrote:

Who's that Pokémon?!

MrBlack wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Who's that Pokémon?!

IT'S PIKACHU!

Sam on TFW has found that its possibly fake

Hmm, this will be interesting. I just hope the Martini sponsorship on him doesn't give us a repeat of the Exhaust fiasco.

For that matter I hope they don't skimp on real-world car details- I'd much rather they went the Wheeljack route of sacrificing a bit of cartoon accuracy in robot mode for the properly decorated vehicle mode.

Black Hat wrote:Hmm, this will be interesting. I just hope the Martini sponsorship on him doesn't give us a repeat of the Exhaust fiasco.

For that matter I hope they don't skimp on real-world car details- I'd much rather they went the Wheeljack route of sacrificing a bit of cartoon accuracy in robot mode for the properly decorated vehicle mode.

Unlike tobacco advertising, alcohol advertising is not universally banned (because nothing goes together like drinking and driving), and Martini is still a regular sponsor in motorsport. Whether or not they have permission to replicate the Martini stripes is another matter, but it shouldn't hinder the sale of the figure in most countries.

Bumblebee21 wrote:Sam on TFW has found that its possibly fake

Hope not. It would be nice to finally get an MP Jazz, but I've read a few rumors about MP figures over the years that didn't pan out.

We shall see.

Yep, it's a fake -- a composite of: the Sunbow model; the real flyer; and a photo from the MP-27 Ironhide reveal.

But eventually these rumours will be true, because it's only a matter of time until Takara makes an MP Jazz.

Yeah, look at the quality difference. Looks a lot like a photoshop.

Story has been updated!

Va'al wrote:Story has been updated!

That thumbnail... how cruel you are.

Kurona wrote:

Va'al wrote:Story has been updated!

That thumbnail... how cruel you are.

*jazz hands*

Lol it looked so fake from the start. Didn't believe it one bit. I only would even consider it being real if they didn't use a damn cartoon model outline. Plus, it's a baby toy thing with a Masterpiece outline. That just looks ridiculous.

SillyMcGilly wrote:Lol it looked so fake from the start. Didn't believe it one bit. I only would even consider it being real if they didn't use a damn cartoon model outline. Plus, it's a baby toy thing with a Masterpiece outline. That just looks ridiculous.

And yet, there are grown adults out there that even when presented with the facts, still believe it.

I mean sure, Jazz is most likely going to get the MP treatment at some point, that came out in the interview a few days ago that he intends to give the Autobot cars the MP treatment and someone just decided to whip something up for some lulz.

People really need to learn how to research and not believe the first thing they read.

I figured it was fake, but I still got my hopes up. I'm like a Bozo The Clown. MP Rumors can punch me in the face as many times as they want, but I'll still be right there on board for the next one.

I want to believe.

Burn wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:Lol it looked so fake from the start. Didn't believe it one bit. I only would even consider it being real if they didn't use a damn cartoon model outline. Plus, it's a baby toy thing with a Masterpiece outline. That just looks ridiculous.

And yet, there are grown adults out there that even when presented with the facts, still believe it.

I mean sure, Jazz is most likely going to get the MP treatment at some point, that came out in the interview a few days ago that he intends to give the Autobot cars the MP treatment and someone just decided to whip something up for some lulz.

People really need to learn how to research and not believe the first thing they read.

-puckers lips- Fake News! (Just Kidding, just kidding. )

Relic0037 wrote:
It would be nice to finally get an MP Jazz.

It's your lucky day!

Bronzewolf wrote:-puckers lips- Fake News! (Just Kidding, just kidding. )

Thanks. Some idiot with an obsession with green and purple was starting to foam at the mouth. Wait...

(Just kidding.)

Ironhidensh wrote:

Relic0037 wrote:
It would be nice to finally get an MP Jazz.

It's your lucky day!

Keep the 3P stuff in the 3P threads please.

at least theres the Transform and Roll Out Hova
its pretty awesome for a masterpiece Jazz

I just don't want to see 8 more reissues of Prime and 6 new seekers before we see Jazz.

Ultra Markus wrote:at least theres the Transform and Roll Out Hova
its pretty awesome for a masterpiece Jazz

Please. Just. Look. One. Post. Above yours.

Burn wrote:Keep the 3P stuff in the 3P threads please.

Though, there's no images or links so I don't see the big deal.

Also, Since this is an MP thread, I figured it'd be as good of a place as any to post this. I really am not very interested in the G1 style MP figures. Or even the Beast Wars ones. I mean, they are cool, but they are supposed to look simple while also having very complicated transformations at the same time, so you end up with boxes, spheres, and smooth panels with a bunch of hinges and transformation joints showing, and that bothers me.

Instead of simplistic designs in a complicated figure, I think this style of line works way better for the movie designs. They are complicated designs that need complicated transformations to look good and accurate without a bunch of kibble, and this works OH so perfectly. So at all you G1 and Beast Wars Masterpiece collectors, more power to you, but I like my Beast Wars and G1 designs easier to transform and go "kwa cho cho" with.

Well, there is the movie mp line for those who prefer the look of a tuna can in a shredder

Desslok2201 wrote:Well, there is the movie mp line for those who prefer the look of a tuna can in a shredder

Being fair though, of the revival's three figures so far two of them are based on some of the better movie designs.

Desslok2201 wrote:Well, there is the movie mp line for those who prefer the look of a tuna can in a shredder

I was referring to those. I guess not saying "MPM" in my post was a huge mistake.

And I like the movie designs a lot. They just look cooler. I am with Michael Bay on this. I like the movie designs better than giant boxes.

I was just teasing

SillyMcGilly wrote:Though, there's no images or links so I don't see the big deal.

There are. Open your eyes.

Also, Since this is an MP thread, I figured it'd be as good of a place as any to post this.

Or, you could open your eyes, and use this thread.

Burn wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:Though, there's no images or links so I don't see the big deal.

There are. Open your eyes.

I meant in Markus' post. Please, open your eyes as well!

And thanks, believe it or not I did search for one a while ago, and figured this was the best thread for it because I guess there were so few people posting on that one and it wasn't very visible. F me.

SillyMcGilly wrote:

Burn wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:Though, there's no images or links so I don't see the big deal.

There are. Open your eyes.

I meant in Markus' post. Please, open your eyes as well!

Not in the mood for your shit kid. You quoted me, knowing all too well I was replying to IH. End of discussion. If you feel the need to further it, take it to PM.

I am hoping for a MP Arcee someday

All in good time.... I still need Gears first

On a serious note, does anyone who pays attention know if they are still trying to follow the same release schedule from several years ago with the 2 lg, 3 smaller (car) size per year?

I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!

I'm surprised Glyph hasn't happened yet. And I'm on board with all the things you mentioned

Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!

same here, all we got is Road Rage....and...that's it i think

Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!

I sincerely doubt they would do Small Foot, what with the whole split ownership issue of the GoBots property. The old e-HOBBY set left the individual toys nameless, with a group bio that was worded ambiguously to only imply that the six were Tonka GoBots. It was the-now-no-longer-official Fun Pub who canonized the toys' intended identities.

I mean, I'd love for it to happen, but I really don't think it will.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!

I sincerely doubt they would do Small Foot, what with the whole split ownership issue of the GoBots property. The old e-HOBBY set left the individual toys nameless, with a group bio that was worded ambiguously to only imply that the six were Tonka GoBots. It was the-now-no-longer-official Fun Pub who canonized the toys' intended identities.

I mean, I'd love for it to happen, but I really don't think it will.

Damn, that's a shame. Are there any other female redeco/retools they could do out of Season 1/2 characters?

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!

I sincerely doubt they would do Small Foot, what with the whole split ownership issue of the GoBots property. The old e-HOBBY set left the individual toys nameless, with a group bio that was worded ambiguously to only imply that the six were Tonka GoBots. It was the-now-no-longer-official Fun Pub who canonized the toys' intended identities.

I mean, I'd love for it to happen, but I really don't think it will.

Damn, that's a shame. Are there any other female redeco/retools they could do out of Season 1/2 characters?

i want to see the entire first 3 runs of the G1 characters and any repaints that were made as masterpieces
but seeing how we see only a couple a year it would take 20 years to get most of the main characters done

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just want more girls.

Which means I absolutely want Gears as a priority so they can do Small Foot out of him. And get to work on Glyph from Bumblebee!

I sincerely doubt they would do Small Foot, what with the whole split ownership issue of the GoBots property. The old e-HOBBY set left the individual toys nameless, with a group bio that was worded ambiguously to only imply that the six were Tonka GoBots. It was the-now-no-longer-official Fun Pub who canonized the toys' intended identities.

I mean, I'd love for it to happen, but I really don't think it will.

Damn, that's a shame. Are there any other female redeco/retools they could do out of Season 1/2 characters?

Glyph from Bumble and Howlback from Ravage are the only doable fembots from MP molds of 1984-1985 characters. Road Rage from Tracks, too, but she's already been done.

Rosanna and Flip Sides could be made from Rewind/Eject, but they're 1986 characters, so we'd have to wait on them.

Most G1-toy-based fembots were made from post-1985 toy designs.

Though, there is a female Devastator off in some unspecified universe, so the Titan class mold could serve that purpose.

Sabrblade wrote:
Though, there is a female Devastator off in some unspecified universe, so the Titan class mold could serve that purpose.

Citation needed please, is this a Funpub thing?

GalvatronG1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:
Though, there is a female Devastator off in some unspecified universe, so the Titan class mold could serve that purpose.

Citation needed please, is this a Funpub thing?

Yep, a Fun Pub thing. In the final SG prose story, "Coalescence", SG Demolishor steps through a portal into a universe where a Devastator is destroying Crystal City, and whom the story's narration refers to as "she" and "her" several times. The scene is brief, though, and while the text is ambiguous I got the impression that either the Devastator or some force opposing her killed Demolishor shortly after his arrival.

I wouldn't mind some more Diaclone-based MP redecos/retools being made into fembots, though it's unlikely given that just about every Diaclone deco has an existing bio courtesy of Takara/e-HOBBY.

That said, if they retconned Sunstreaker Police Type out of existence and made the inevitable release of the police deco into a new character fembot, I'd buy that (assuming the retooling was Road Rage level or better).

Since Artfire is now out in the wild, how long does anyone suppose it'll be until we see Hauler?

Desslok2201 wrote:Since Artfire is now out in the wild, how long does anyone suppose it'll be until we see Hauler?

Month or two? I'm surprised how quick they got out three variants of the mold already; so by that rate it surely shouldn't take long for Hauler.

Black Hat wrote:I wouldn't mind some more Diaclone-based MP redecos/retools being made into fembots, though it's unlikely given that just about every Diaclone deco has an existing bio courtesy of Takara/e-HOBBY.

There are still some left: Hoist, Trailbreaker, Skids and Crosscut have 2 to 4 color schemes each, including the TF decos. Not to mention all the e-Hobby original decos. And it's not just them FunPub has put some Diaclone decos to use as well.

Have we gotten any original characters from Masterpiece? As far as I'm aware all the recolours previously had characters assigned to the original toy version. Aside from Dark Rodimus, but...

Kurona wrote:Have we gotten any original characters from Masterpiece? As far as I'm aware all the recolours previously had characters assigned to the original toy version. Aside from Dark Rodimus, but...

Where was LoudPedal ever mentioned previously? Exhaust, too, for that matter

Where was LoudPedal ever mentioned previously? Exhaust, too, for that matter

Both of those are throwbacks to Diaclone toys. While the names were created for the MPs. The characters come from the Diaclone colors of the original Tracks and Wheeljack.

So far, we have yet to get a completely 100% original character for an MP that has no reference to previous toys.

The Sunstreaker mold may be the first, since he was not repainted into anything or anyone after being Sunstreaker in G1 and has only his red Diaclone version.

But none of the other Lamborghinis from G1 or Diaclone, have roof / windshield chests like Sunstreaker. We may just get his Red Diaclone self and then its up in the air, what other character they can repaint him into.

Overcracker wrote:

Where was LoudPedal ever mentioned previously? Exhaust, too, for that matter

Both of those are throwbacks to Diaclone toys. While the names were created for the MPs. The characters come from the Diaclone colors of the original Tracks and Wheeljack.

So far, we have yet to get a completely 100% original character for an MP that has no reference to previous toys.

The Sunstreaker mold may be the first, since he was not repainted into anything or anyone after being Sunstreaker in G1 and has only his red Diaclone version.

But none of the other Lamborghinis from G1 or Diaclone, have roof / windshield chests like Sunstreaker. We may just get his Red Diaclone self and then its up in the air, what other character they can repaint him into.

Technically though I was referring to any new character whether they're inspired by an old deco or not. So for instance Road Rage and Clamp Down are not new characters from MP as they were originally from E-Hobby; but Exhaust and Loud Pedal are new characters from MP as those decos (and for that matter, any name or personality conveyed) were not used in Transformers before. Very amusing coincidence in TFCC's Toxitron story notwithstanding.

To be fair, the decos that ended up as Exhaust and Loudpedal were featured in US fiction before, the former as an Easter Egg in the IDW Dreamwave comics, and the latter as the character Vivisect by FunPub. The Masterpiece characterizations are all new however. For that matter, so is MP-18B Bluestreak's (featuring a slight hint towards Diaclone no less), separate from the US silver Bluestreak.

So three "new" characters, or names at the very least, in total.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:To be fair, the decos that ended up as Exhaust and Loudpedal were featured in US fiction before, the former as an Easter Egg in the IDW Dreamwave comics, and the latter as the character Vivisect by FunPub.

FWIW, after MP Loudpedal was revealed, the author of Toxitron's TCC prose story amended the story to change Vivisector's name to Loudpedal, so as to keep one consistent name across the board for that Diaclone-based deco.