Does Cyberverse Ultra Shockwave Work in a Classics / Generations Collection?

william-james88 wrote:

"You wreck, I rule."

I kind of feel as though that this article would be better suited for a smaller segment for a pictorial review. I don't want to come off as sounding rude, but then again, anything offends people online nowadays.

For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.


Seriously though, I just wanted to be a smart ass. I'm actually not a good sounding board, as I've developed rather high standards for my collection. For me, the design aesthetic just doesn't match up with Generations figures. This figure looks, to me, made for small children, while the Chug line looks made for large children (and us cranky old men). I can, however, see how it might work for others, especially as we have never really gotten a good Shockwave figure for that line.


This figure would probably make it onto my shelf of "cool figures I just like for no real reason" though.

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

Yeah I'm just gonna go with this.

But at the end of the day, it comes down to the individual collector. It's THEIR collection, THEY should curate it how THEY choose to.

You wanna have a shelf of whacky coloured robots made up from G2 and other sub-lines? You go right ahead you crazy whack-a-doodle!
Now I feel the urge to set up a shelf of whacky coloured robots.

"Oh my god, they killed Grapple!"
"Those b****rds!"

This article is not news... its a question... why is this here?

Thanks Will for putting big Shockey in perspective. Looks like a cool figure and I've heard nothing but good about it. Definitely added to the get eventually lost.

Octobotimus wrote:This article is not news... its a question... why is this here?

This post is not adding to the conversation...its nagging... why is this here?

Personally (largely due to the rumored Siege Shockwave) it's going to be a definite no for me. It looks okay but as somebody who has always preferred my Shockwave to be purple instead of magenta, and as someone who generally dislikes the particular aesthetic of the line he is from, I'll wait and see what else will come along. Seriously why aren't more 3rd parties doing CHUG these days?

Quantum Surge wrote:I don't want to come off as sounding rude, but then again, anything offends people online nowadays.

No worries mate

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Personally (largely due to the rumored Siege Shockwave) it's going to be a definite no for me. It looks okay but as somebody who has always preferred my Shockwave to be purple instead of magenta, and as someone who generally dislikes the particular aesthetic of the line he is from, I'll wait and see what else will come along. Seriously why aren't more 3rd parties doing CHUG these days?

I think because the demand is more for MP. Collectors feel they are getting a better deal especially when a 3p MP costs the same as a Takara MP, while a 3p CHUG costs 2-3 times the price of a Hasbro CHUG.

And purple is always hard to photograph but I can assure you that while he is not dark purple, it is a nice full purple colour. I wouldnt call it magenta.

i would have to say no not really, cyber battalion would be a better fit
cyberverse is a bit too different for generations to fit in with
it would be like trying to put Teen Titans Go Robin in with Young Justice as their Robin
it wont look right

william-james88 wrote:

Quantum Surge wrote:I don't want to come off as sounding rude, but then again, anything offends people online nowadays.

No worries mate

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

Yeah, I see that point. Like I said though, it really just comes down to a personal choice/preference. It doesn't quite work for me, but I can see it working for others. It doesn't look bad at all.

Octobotimus wrote:This article is not news... its a question... why is this here?

What, we suddenly can't have original articles on the site now? It has to be all news?

what about the cyber batallion shockwave? there is already a shapeways kit to give him proper knees without having to mod the figure

f-primus-unicron wrote:what about the cyber batallion shockwave? there is already a shapeways kit to give him proper knees without having to mod the figure

Even without that mod he still looks more of a fit for generations

f-primus-unicron wrote:what about the cyber batallion shockwave? there is already a shapeways kit to give him proper knees without having to mod the figure

If it needs a 3p kit to make it work then I dont see how that makes it a great option. It definitely raises up the price. Plus, its not a mainline figure and is far from as accessible as this one.

Also, this one has a much more G1 accurate backpack (as opposed to wings) along with double the articulation points (ankle rockers, bicep swivel, ect).

I must admit though, that cyber battalion does still look really good. And very G1 (aside from the back)

For now, I am quite content with Prime Shockwave in the role, and this does not motivate mr to replace that toy. Js it perfect? No, but its a great figure. If not for thT, I would probably still be using Energon Shockblast, becaude I love the idea of Space Gun evoling into Orbital Weapins Platform, but the Ebergon figure has some color issues for Shockwave and the gun armbis a bit overkill. I fo keep the Six Shot repaint of that mold on my roster as "Astro Magnum".

it is still about 33 dollars, cyber battalion figure plus add on, and i here shamelessly advertising it XD

I have TF:P Shockwave as my Generations Shockwave.

Burn wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:This article is not news... its a question... why is this here?

What, we suddenly can't have original articles on the site now? It has to be all news?

What am I gonna do now with all the Top 5 lists i have on the backburner????

Joking aside, I really like the discussion this has turned into. It's fun to get new toys and also have an opportunity to look back.

Also, kudos to Sabre for seeing I had a little wreckers theme going on (with extra stuff).

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

For me, so would say yes. It's most obvious in how the Gimmisk is portrayed, and in the artistic style of detail elements and facial structure, as well as to a lesser extent the way the color palatte is used. Take for example the photo of Shokwave and TR Megatron. Shocks is a very vibrant color tone while the TR figures are muted, and thats true for most TR figures. Arguably, evwn the pink Misfire is still a more dull satin finish compared to the Cybervers color. Lao, the Generations figures have very squared up, blocky facial features with neutral ecpressions, whereas Shoxkwave has this furrowed brow thing going. Thats one of mt biggest nitpick of thevfigure is the headsculpt.

I suppose I coucld say though, if this were my forst Shockwave and I didnt have any of the previous Shockwaves, I would probably be pretty happy with this one for now. Hard to say if I would take this over the Battalion Shockwave, but with that option I would Definately be invedting in a Knee kit.

Nice photos. Buy why is Shockwave's gimmick a spring-out toilet brush?

Flashwave wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

For me, so would say yes. It's most obvious in how the Gimmisk is portrayed, and in the artistic style of detail elements and facial structure, as well as to a lesser extent the way the color palatte is used. Take for example the photo of Shokwave and TR Megatron. Shocks is a very vibrant color tone while the TR figures are muted, and thats true for most TR figures. Arguably, evwn the pink Misfire is still a more dull satin finish compared to the Cybervers color. Lao, the Generations figures have very squared up, blocky facial features with neutral ecpressions, whereas Shoxkwave has this furrowed brow thing going. Thats one of mt biggest nitpick of thevfigure is the headsculpt.

I suppose I coucld say though, if this were my forst Shockwave and I didnt have any of the previous Shockwaves, I would probably be pretty happy with this one for now. Hard to say if I would take this over the Battalion Shockwave, but with that option I would Definately be invedting in a Knee kit.

I totally get what you mean about the colours. I feel it also is what makes him most at odds. Interesting how just a palette can make a change.
Aout the brow, the warior has that but this Ultra does now have the brow go into the eye so its not as bad.

Anyways, I found this on Facebook,

DeathReviews wrote:Nice photos. Buy why is Shockwave's gimmick a spring-out toilet brush?

Thanks Death, though living in Canada means I no longer have decent outdoor lighting by the time I get back home from work. And my new phone's camera sucks hard (I dislike Apple, but i gotta give it to them, their phone cameras are great!).

As for the gimmick, well it is supposed to represent energy blasts coming out of it. Like it is frozen in time, like a blast effect. Now whether it pulls it off is another thing.

william-james88 wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

For me, so would say yes. It's most obvious in how the Gimmisk is portrayed, and in the artistic style of detail elements and facial structure, as well as to a lesser extent the way the color palatte is used. Take for example the photo of Shokwave and TR Megatron. Shocks is a very vibrant color tone while the TR figures are muted, and thats true for most TR figures. Arguably, evwn the pink Misfire is still a more dull satin finish compared to the Cybervers color. Lao, the Generations figures have very squared up, blocky facial features with neutral ecpressions, whereas Shoxkwave has this furrowed brow thing going. Thats one of mt biggest nitpick of thevfigure is the headsculpt.

I suppose I coucld say though, if this were my forst Shockwave and I didnt have any of the previous Shockwaves, I would probably be pretty happy with this one for now. Hard to say if I would take this over the Battalion Shockwave, but with that option I would Definately be invedting in a Knee kit.

I totally get what you mean about the colours. I feel it also is what makes him most at odds. Interesting how just a palette can make a change.
Aout the brow, the warior has that but this Ultra does now have the brow go into the eye so its not as bad.

Anyways, I found this on Facebook,

DeathReviews wrote:Nice photos. Buy why is Shockwave's gimmick a spring-out toilet brush?

Thanks Death, though living in Canada means I no longer have decent outdoor lighting by the time I get back home from work. And my new phone's camera sucks hard (I dislike Apple, but i gotta give it to them, their phone cameras are great!).

As for the gimmick, well it is supposed to represent energy blasts coming out of it. Like it is frozen in time, like a blast effect. Now whether it pulls it off is another thing.

Huh. With Devy,, he doesn’t look that bad. If anything, Shockwave makes the Starscream figure’s rounded, bloated feet and chest stand out more.

william-james88 wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

For me, so would say yes. It's most obvious in how the Gimmisk is portrayed, and in the artistic style of detail elements and facial structure, as well as to a lesser extent the way the color palatte is used. Take for example the photo of Shokwave and TR Megatron. Shocks is a very vibrant color tone while the TR figures are muted, and thats true for most TR figures. Arguably, evwn the pink Misfire is still a more dull satin finish compared to the Cybervers color. Lao, the Generations figures have very squared up, blocky facial features with neutral ecpressions, whereas Shoxkwave has this furrowed brow thing going. Thats one of mt biggest nitpick of thevfigure is the headsculpt.

I suppose I coucld say though, if this were my forst Shockwave and I didnt have any of the previous Shockwaves, I would probably be pretty happy with this one for now. Hard to say if I would take this over the Battalion Shockwave, but with that option I would Definately be invedting in a Knee kit.

I totally get what you mean about the colours. I feel it also is what makes him most at odds. Interesting how just a palette can make a change.
Aout the brow, the warior has that but this Ultra does now have the brow go into the eye so its not as bad.

Anyways, I found this on Facebook,

DeathReviews wrote:Nice photos. Buy why is Shockwave's gimmick a spring-out toilet brush?

Thanks Death, though living in Canada means I no longer have decent outdoor lighting by the time I get back home from work. And my new phone's camera sucks hard (I dislike Apple, but i gotta give it to them, their phone cameras are great!).

As for the gimmick, well it is supposed to represent energy blasts coming out of it. Like it is frozen in time, like a blast effect. Now whether it pulls it off is another thing.

Huh. With Devy,, he doesn’t look that bad. If anything, Shockwave makes the Starscream figure’s rounded, bloated feet and chest stand out more.

f-primus-unicron wrote:what about the cyber batallion shockwave? there is already a shapeways kit to give him proper knees without having to mod the figure

Reeeally?

He's a great Temp I think...for now 'nuff said!

Oops

Nope. Proportions particularly in the legs look too cartoony and exaggerated but it's up to you in your own collection. I saw it for sale in a nearby toy shop in Ely last week and passed on it as I simply don't like the look of the figure and some things about it just bug the hell out of me (the stupid brow, the proportions, the alt-mode, goofy arm-cannon.

Looking at that Devastator pic though Shockwave goes with PotP Starscream better than the others cos Starscream looks equally silly and quite balloony like a cartoon.

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

Only because there's no other Voyage CHUG Shockwave of quality to offer and Hasbro knows this. If you look at my Sig Picture, you can tell that I initially had no problem with buying a variety of Shockwaves (it's not even including the 3 Legends class CW Shockwaves).

That's another reason why this upcoming SIEGE Shockwave is supposed to be a Leader class.

But I've grown tired of collecting everything they throw out there. All I want is a single Quality Voyager class Shockwave moving forward.

I only bought the 3 Legends CW one's because I seen them as cool little minions/Shadow play experiments. But I skipped that Prime version, that Battle-whatever crap at Walgreen's last Summer whose knees can't bend and I'm skipping this new Cyberverse one to.

Reserved Judgement for this SIEGE Version but I don't have my hopes up.

i'd say he almost fits, but his colours are just a smidge too saturated.
desaturate him by a few pantones and he'd work better.

I think there should be some mention of his alt mode if we want to consider how well he fits in.

Sadly his alt mode is terrible. I actually like the Deluxe version of Shockwave enough to excuse his yoga/spider tank mode, but in voyager class, the cheating becomes much more apparent, especially how it pulls it off with less elegance.

There is a huge gap in the side where the extra arm has to store in robot mode, he looks even more like a robot on his hands and knees, and he uses the old method of the gun arm simply becoming the tank weapon which I hate. The deluxe gave each mode its own guns and looks better for it.

I'm not sure why they even chose that method since Shockwave has always had a backpack and the tank cannon could've easily just hid in there. It's almost like they had to do something different to justify another size class.

The colours just don't work for me. And the detailing is just a little too off. If I didn't have a Shockwave at all I'd probably be happy enough with him, but I have Prime Shockwave and this guy just doesn't quite beat him out.

A premium paint job just might make me grab him.

Also, posts of his alt. mode with the others would add tot he discussion.

"Does Cyberverse Ultra Shockwave Work in a Classics / Generations Collection?" If you want it to, yes, and you should never let anyone tell you your collection is lesser for it

Will I really like that first pose in the article, fun stuff!

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

I've seen that Shockwave in person and it's on the list of things to buy. For me the color and deco is right on, but there are some design queues that scream not CHUG. The pastel pink paint job and gun gimmick jump out to me. The alt-mode while fun is non traditional for Shockwave and very Tachikoma.

To me Shockwave doesn't fit in with his own line, so he's a bit of an odd turduckhen. I have no problems mixing and matching lines. I have quite a few RID 2015 figures in my CHUG displays and my MP shelf would give some people an aneurysm. He looks like a cool and fun toy and will look good on a shelf, that's all that's really important to me

Burn wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:This article is not news... its a question... why is this here?

What, we suddenly can't have original articles on the site now? It has to be all news?

Post news or GTFO!

ScottyP wrote:Will I really like that first pose in the article, fun stuff!

Thanks man! It all started with Dr Va'al's posing of Smokejumper

Also from New York Comic Con 2018, and the special event organised by Hasbro Transformers that SEibertron and megatronus are attending, we have some more toys to show you all from the Transformers: Cyberverse line - the toyline associated with the currently airing animated series.

Featured in the initial images below are the main cast of Bumblebee, Slipstream, Optimus Prime, but also the likes of Prowl, Ratchet, Soundwave, Shadow Striker, Wheeljack, Hot Rod, some of which repeated across size classes and gimmicks. Stay tuned for the panel coverage to find out more on that front, and check them out below for now!

should say I checked and it was the Deluxe size SHockwave I passed on in the shop. I forgot that design came in two figure sizes. But I certainly wouldn't want the bigger more expensive one either.

What does Slipstream have a propeller on her jet mode?

RiddlerJ wrote:What does Slipstream have a propeller on her jet mode?

She does, but I don't care. I'm just happy that Slipstream finally gets her own mold rather than a repaint.

Why can't they give these guys knees?

Glad to get a Slipstream that, you know, transforms all the way. Good show there.

Patrickab7 wrote:Glad to get a Slipstream that, you know, transforms all the way. Good show there.

You know, The fact that we have now set our standards so low is kinda sad

Looks like Bee, Prime, and Megs are getting second warrior figures.

While the newly announced Leader Shockwave arguably gives even the Masterpiece a good fight, this works almost well enough for a Voyager Shocky, the only thing I'd change aside from adding an elbow, would be darker colors, G1 toy colors would do wonders for this toy, as they'd balance out the kiddy aesthetic with the edgier deco.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/cyber-batallion-shockwave-knees-shapeways.1151085/page-4#post-16190547
here for anyone interested in the knees for shockwave cyber batallion

back on this thread topic
i don't know how to feel, see prowl and i see an articulated figure, and we know shockwave warrior(deluxe) and ultra(voyager) are properly articulated, also windblade...and thats it, they managed to get gimmicks and still have proper articulation
optimus warrior i think only lacks left arm because of the gimmick but shockwave ultra has the same problem so is not that bad
oh almost forgot the big optimus that i don't remember the class name...and thats it, everything else is so compromised by the gimmicks they suffer in so many ways they are not even comparable with the 1steps or the 3(or more) step figures from age of extinction or TLK, i as a kid was able to figure out magnaboss and tripredacus and i was 8 years old, how is that now a days kids cant even properly a 3 step? and they need figures this simple? as i said there are what? 6 proper figures? and this lien has more than 30 by this point

update: just noticed soudnwave and prowl have indeed proper articulation so yeah that goes from 6 to 8 figures that are decent, but still everything else is way too limited, optimus seems to have better articulation in the arms but nothing indicates knee articulation -_-

Ultra Purple Shockwave work really well as a Generation figure.

BTW, "Deluxe" Starscream is garbage but I would have forgiven it only if the wing tip gimmick were not spring loaded. I would have like to display that Screamers with his purple deployed.

Following our coverage of the New York Comic-Con 2018 Cyberverse figures here, we now have official stock photos from Hasbro them self, as well as from their Facebook and Instagram. These photos slightly differ due to having the background.

There are many photos here, ranging from robot modes, to vehicle, to Action Attacks, to mid-transformation. This also helps us identify what toy is what from the earlier post, and gets us a better look at each one and their gimmick. We have:

Scout:
Shadow Striker
Ratchet

1-Step:
Optimus Prime
Bumblebee
Megatron
Wheeljack
Hot Rod
Prowl

Warrior:
Hot Rod
Prowl
Soundwave (with Laserbeak)

Ultra:
Optimus Prime
Slipstream

Ultimate:
Bumblebee

Tell us your thoughts, well, you know where! The Pub forums down below!

That Warrior Prowl looks like it heavily borrows from the Cyber Battalion figure