Ebay Shoots MP Megatron Auctions!
Friday, April 27th, 2007 5:35AM CDT
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For the past couple of weeks, eager fans have been having a difficult time trying to purchase Megatron. The problem all started when the figure was announced as a Japan exclusive and has snowballed from there.
Modified orange gun barrels; online retail shortages; and inflated prices have only been the beginning.
Now, to make matters worse- eBay has pulled the plug on all MP Megatron auctions. It is unclear if this is a permit decision. eBay has not made an public comment about the matter. However, looking at eBay's rules it looks rather grim that eager Transformers Fans will get the Masterpiece that they have been begging for.
eBay Rules for Toy Guns
BB Guns, Replicas, Blank Guns and Imitation Guns
Prohibited
BB guns, air guns, black powder guns or muzzle-loader guns
Listings that use the term “BB gun” in the item title or description of any listing for an airsoft or replica gun.
Permitted
Paintball guns, "airsoft" guns*, pellet guns, replica, "look-alike," and imitation firearms under certain circumstances. These items:
Must have clear markings permanently affixed to them (commonly blaze orange markings on the barrel or a blaze orange plug inserted into the barrel)
Must not be readily convertible to shoot a lethal projectile
Must be located in the U.S. and the seller must be located in the U.S.
These rules apply to all items designed to look like firearms, including replicas/imitation guns of any age, as well as toy and cap guns.
Note: Most states require that purchasers of airsoft guns be 18 years of age or older.
Please note that any photos in a listing (including stock photos) must also abide by our Firearms, Weapons and Knives policy. If a prohibited item is included in a photograph for a non-prohibited item, the listing may be ended.
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Posted by Nemesis_Apoc on April 27th, 2007 @ 5:40am CDT
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Posted by Overloaded on April 27th, 2007 @ 6:28am CDT
Posted by D-340 on April 27th, 2007 @ 6:35am CDT
Posted by JetfireUK on April 27th, 2007 @ 6:45am CDT
Overloaded wrote:How will I get my MP Megatron now
Either try TFZone or Timban. Or perhaps go straight to a store like Xybertoys?
Posted by Archanubis on April 27th, 2007 @ 6:54am CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on April 27th, 2007 @ 7:05am CDT
eBay is a big place. Maybe there were at most a few hundred MP Megatron auctions?
It's not likely that they would just 'find' them floating about.
Someone had to point out the auctions to them.
Someone with a vested interested in selling their market share of modified Megatrons.
achem...BBTS?
I mean, I'd do it too. If I were one of the few places selling technically 'legal' merchandise, I'd tip ebay off as well.
At any rate, I bet that's how this came about.
Posted by Blitzwing the warrior on April 27th, 2007 @ 7:30am CDT
Posted by Blozor on April 27th, 2007 @ 7:39am CDT
ebay wrote:Must not be readily convertible to shoot a lethal projectile
Readily convertible? Shoot, I already converted mine to feature a working nuclear fusion cannon. With only an Exact-o knife, a little duct tape, and a kumquat.
Why a kumquat? Because it's fun to say "kumquat."
Posted by JetfireUK on April 27th, 2007 @ 7:47am CDT
Blozor wrote:ebay wrote:Must not be readily convertible to shoot a lethal projectile
Readily convertible? Shoot, I already converted mine to feature a working nuclear fusion cannon. With only an Exact-o knife, a little duct tape, and a kumquat.
Why a kumquat? Because it's fun to say "kumquat."
You said Kumquat!
LMAO
Posted by Liege Evilmus on April 27th, 2007 @ 7:48am CDT
Still, it sucks for you guys that didn't, it does however look like the BBTS orange cap is easy to remove.
Posted by Sunstar on April 27th, 2007 @ 7:51am CDT
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Posted by skywarp-2 on April 27th, 2007 @ 8:49am CDT
so according to my source at ebay, for now they are canceling all orders that are MP Megatron so they can sort out which sellers are in fact in the US, and have the required orange plug..
I have no doubt that the orange plug, US seller versions of MP Megatron will make it back on ebay..once they figure out whose in compliance and who is not.It's regrettable, but its the US law..
As far as price gouging on ebay..well its not the first time, and it is supply and demand.. so I feel the pain of those who want it and have a paypal account ready to go..
I'm happy I imported mine from Hobby Link,though it took forever by SAL, my friend that works there took great pains to make me feel assured that the orange plug wasn't an issue, and it really wasn't.. so I'm happy about that, and the fact that I got MP Megatron at the preorder price..Now having owned him and spent a total of 20 minutes with the toy since I had him, because I've been so busy with running my company, I am off to the Problems with Megatron section to voice some things I noticed right off the bat..
Posted by Powermaster Jazz on April 27th, 2007 @ 9:15am CDT
Posted by Anubiz on April 27th, 2007 @ 9:35am CDT
Glad i got mine so easy, but for anyone who doesn't have one he is definitely worth the trouble.
Posted by Bee-otch on April 27th, 2007 @ 9:37am CDT
Liege Evilmus wrote:Ha, I got mine through them last week and its already shipped. I made it just in time!
Still, it sucks for you guys that didn't, it does however look like the BBTS orange cap is easy to remove.
I just received mine from BBTS on Wednesday and it literally took about 30 seconds to remove the plug. All I did was heat and pull. I know that it sucks having to pay full price for an item that has been opened, but it was really the only way that I was going to get one.
Posted by Stormrider on April 27th, 2007 @ 9:38am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Not throwing stones here but...
eBay is a big place. Maybe there were at most a few hundred MP Megatron auctions?
It's not likely that they would just 'find' them floating about.
Someone had to point out the auctions to them.
Someone with a vested interested in selling their market share of modified Megatrons.
achem...BBTS?
I mean, I'd do it too. If I were one of the few places selling technically 'legal' merchandise, I'd tip ebay off as well.
At any rate, I bet that's how this came about.
That was my first thought too. It may not have been BBTS but I think MP Megatron got fingered by somebody.
Posted by skywarp-2 on April 27th, 2007 @ 9:49am CDT
Stormrider wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Not throwing stones here but...
eBay is a big place. Maybe there were at most a few hundred MP Megatron auctions?
It's not likely that they would just 'find' them floating about.
Someone had to point out the auctions to them.
Someone with a vested interested in selling their market share of modified Megatrons.
achem...BBTS?
I mean, I'd do it too. If I were one of the few places selling technically 'legal' merchandise, I'd tip ebay off as well.
At any rate, I bet that's how this came about.
That was my first thought too. It may not have been BBTS but I think MP Megatron got fingered by somebody.
It did, and it was by US companies and sellers who were competing with Hong kong companies and/or seller's auctions who were offering MP- Megs Unmodified for a great price, excluding the shipping, so buyers were ignoring the already in US versions with the orange plug..
I have no info on who or what companies were the ones responsible, but my source says they were pretty influential and pointed out the law and ebay's regulations as their basis for the "temporary" cancellations..
I was told that A statement will be issued soon..
Posted by CyberTooth on April 27th, 2007 @ 10:04am CDT
Blitzwing the warrior wrote:But Megatron is packaged in #$%@!$^ robot mode!
That doesn't matter, it's the fact that he can turn into a gun that makes the need for the orange cap necessary.
Posted by clk430r1 on April 27th, 2007 @ 10:13am CDT
Posted by Hanch Prime on April 27th, 2007 @ 11:46am CDT
Posted by OptimusIsHot on April 27th, 2007 @ 11:46am CDT
Half of me wants to just go buy a real Walther P38 because that would be easier than getting Megs into this country lol. I love this country but there are some real messed up problems when you nice folks can't own a Megatron but that ass wipe can do what he did at Virgina Tech. You tell me what kind of guns are the real problem? I must say though if we out lawed guns... we could all get Megatrons.... maybe :wishful thinking:
Posted by BOSSC351 on April 27th, 2007 @ 12:08pm CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on April 27th, 2007 @ 12:10pm CDT
bossc351 wrote:Yahoo auctions then. Screw Ebay.
Point and counter-point!
Posted by Swerve on April 27th, 2007 @ 12:17pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:tentagil wrote:Well Ebay is a US based company, so technically they do fall under the law. So if unmoded versions were sold on the site they would be held accountable. They are jsut covering there own asses.
I bought my modded Megs from TFsource, pulled the plug, and now have my happily unmodded Megs beating up Prime. From what I hear plenty of people have done the same with thier BBTS modded Megs, though that one takes a lot more effort to remove.
Yet you still payed full price for an opened item. Damnit, I had almost one a megs too........
My MP Megs from TFSource was unmodded and unopened but I did have to wait a little longer than everyone else because the modded ones shipped first.
Posted by Satanatron on April 27th, 2007 @ 12:20pm CDT
Posted by Emperor Primacron the 1st on April 27th, 2007 @ 12:30pm CDT
OptimusIsHot wrote:I'm glad I got mine on ebay already. Ha Ha I'm going to go pretend to shoot someone now. Thanks ebay. King of the castle, king of the castle.
Half of me wants to just go buy a real Walther P38 because that would be easier than getting Megs into this country lol. I love this country but there are some real messed up problems when you nice folks can't own a Megatron but that ass wipe can do what he did at Virgina Tech. You tell me what kind of guns are the real problem? I must say though if we out lawed guns... we could all get Megatrons.... maybe :wishful thinking:
Banning guns won't solve anything, just cause more problems. and still no Megatrons, probably even end the Megatrons all togather.
I have seen unmodified G1 original and reissue Megatrons being sold in shops and on ebay with no problem before, without being emasculated with any faggy orange tip whatsoever.
Paranoia, hyprocacy, and plain nonsence.....welcome to America.
Posted by Swerve on April 27th, 2007 @ 12:34pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Ever more, blame that "sicko" at Virginia Tech. Latest reports had it that he purchased his ammo at Ebay. So now, even our beloved Megs gets shagged due to this era's heightened sensitivity.
BTW, since I live in SEA, no such scrupples when it comes to realistic looking weapons.
He didn't buy his ammo from ebay. They can't sell ammo. What he bought were all the clips for his guns that allowed him to reload so many times.
Whenever stuff like this happens, people call for stricter gun laws or gun bans which only really prevent decent people from owning or buying guns. Criminals and people who plan on harming people don't always seek the legal way to acquire guns. When people like that want a gun they find a way to get one.
That having been said I think the issue of Megatron is a precaution and also to minimize an almost certain backlash and scrutiny against ebay that will unfold in the wake of V Tech investigations.
Posted by GHUNZ on April 27th, 2007 @ 1:10pm CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on April 27th, 2007 @ 1:22pm CDT
GHUNZ wrote:I just got my MP MEGS today, and I took the orange out, phuck what you heard! THIS toy is DOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, that is what I heard...
So...phuck what you have to say? I don't know. Is it 5 o'clock yet?
Posted by Starscreams bad comedy on April 27th, 2007 @ 1:38pm CDT
Posted by skywarp-2 on April 27th, 2007 @ 2:39pm CDT
Satanatron wrote:I have no problem getting the unmodded Megatron. I got it from my local comic store. They still have 4 unmodded unopened Megatron. I live in Puerti Rico thou. However with have the same US laws. So I don't know how he got the Megatrons unmodded.
your in a US territory, same laws totally different enfocement of those laws, plus you get tax free everything.. i know I used to live in Guam.. your lucky..
Posted by skywarp-2 on April 27th, 2007 @ 2:41pm CDT
Starscreams bad comedy wrote:Just get it from BBTS. I got mine there and the plug is easy to remove.
Same with hobby link Japoan, unless they sold out of stock already..
Posted by Ultra Markus on April 27th, 2007 @ 5:20pm CDT
this is getting f***ing stupid
Posted by Swerve on April 27th, 2007 @ 5:31pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:we all as transformers collectors should band together and create a petition to reform the toy gun laws to exclude collectables.
this is getting f***ing stupid
What? The citizens banding together, petitioning for reform!?! To the government that's like letting the prisoners run the prison.
Posted by dabattousai on April 27th, 2007 @ 6:12pm CDT
Posted by tentagil on April 27th, 2007 @ 6:21pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:tentagil wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:tentagil wrote:Well Ebay is a US based company, so technically they do fall under the law. So if unmoded versions were sold on the site they would be held accountable. They are jsut covering there own asses.
I bought my modded Megs from TFsource, pulled the plug, and now have my happily unmodded Megs beating up Prime. From what I hear plenty of people have done the same with thier BBTS modded Megs, though that one takes a lot more effort to remove.
Yet you still payed full price for an opened item. Damnit, I had almost one a megs too........
Yep, and I got my Megs, and he looks so cool and shiny. I open every TF I buy actually. I even opened my MISB Overlord so I could play with him. Not even sure where the box is anymore. To me they are to display and play with. Otherwise whats the point in having them. A sealed box might as well be an empty box to me.
Tell me though, when you see other TF items listed on eBay, with opened packaging, are they being sold for full price?
I take my toys out of the package too, but I'm the one doing it.
Plenty of MIB opened figures out there that sell for far over original sale price. And plenty of completely loose figures with no packaging that sell for mich higher then original retail as well. To me if I'm going to open it anyways as long as its complete with nothing broken or damaged I really don't care if the box is open and price is completely relative to what your willing to spend.
For instace MP Megatron was worth 95 dollars + shipping to me. A G1 Megs MISB is worth zero dollars to me since I think its an ugly toy.
Posted by shlockwave on April 27th, 2007 @ 6:54pm CDT
Posted by CyberTooth on April 27th, 2007 @ 10:42pm CDT
dabattousai wrote:GREAT! What am I gonna do with my extra Masterpiece Megatron...
Wait a few months and buy a stock and silencer for it from Justitoys.
Posted by Emperor Primacron the 1st on April 27th, 2007 @ 10:59pm CDT
Swerve wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:we all as transformers collectors should band together and create a petition to reform the toy gun laws to exclude collectables.
this is getting f***ing stupid
What? The citizens banding together, petitioning for reform!?! To the government that's like letting the prisoners run the prison.
I like the idea, citizens outta do so more often, and this country of ours could be a more pleasent place to live in.
Remember, we the people, are the bosses, NOT the government, they are our employees. ( I can probably hear people gasping in shock at such a conceopt ).
Time for America to be a resort, not a jail, in my opinion.
Hell, I occasionally buy swords and knives, and they are all sharp....no dull edges, no plastic tip, no bright orange on the hilt and no other faggy additions to differentiate it from something else.
I bet the Japanese collectors are giggling at our prediciment with Megatron and his faggy orange tip. And ESPECIALLY for Classics Megatron, who becomes a gun that looks nothing like a real gun. It's amazing Art Asylum were able to pull off making replica TOS Star Trek phasers without this nonsence.
Posted by Lord_Khan on April 27th, 2007 @ 10:59pm CDT
Posted by Anonymous on April 27th, 2007 @ 11:16pm CDT
Well, at least I got mine...thanks, Robot Kingdom! lol
Trying to smuggle Megatron in through customs..."Such heroic nonsense!" lol
I can hear him now. Well, not actually.
Posted by tentagil on April 27th, 2007 @ 11:32pm CDT
Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Swerve wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:we all as transformers collectors should band together and create a petition to reform the toy gun laws to exclude collectables.
this is getting f***ing stupid
What? The citizens banding together, petitioning for reform!?! To the government that's like letting the prisoners run the prison.
I like the idea, citizens outta do so more often, and this country of ours could be a more pleasent place to live in.
Remember, we the people, are the bosses, NOT the government, they are our employees. ( I can probably hear people gasping in shock at such a conceopt ).
Time for America to be a resort, not a jail, in my opinion.
Hell, I occasionally buy swords and knives, and they are all sharp....no dull edges, no plastic tip, no bright orange on the hilt and no other faggy additions to differentiate it from something else.
I bet the Japanese collectors are giggling at our prediciment with Megatron and his faggy orange tip. And ESPECIALLY for Classics Megatron, who becomes a gun that looks nothing like a real gun. It's amazing Art Asylum were able to pull off making replica TOS Star Trek phasers without this nonsence.
The phasers don't look anything like real guns, which lets them pull off the replica/prop line with more success and skip the orange cap.
As for the people standing up and petitioning this law. In alot of states the law is actually more restrictive in that a toy gun can't even be colored like a real gun (Which is why Megs is the colors he is). And in most cases those laws are the result of parent groups petitioning for it.
Its not like one little incident led to this law going up to congress. If you research it there was alot of public backing on it from parent groups and the like. I think its a stupid law myself. But it exists because the people of this country wanted it. Of course I suppose that something about the average intelligence level of our citizens.
Posted by Stormrider on April 28th, 2007 @ 1:27am CDT
Posted by Lapse Of Reason on April 28th, 2007 @ 2:12am CDT
Stormrider wrote:Is anyone keeping the orange tip on their MP Megatron?
I can see a photo contest topic here. "Photograph your TFs doing something with the orange plug." Many wouldn't be able to participate, myself included because I got an unmodded Megatron, but the resulting photos could be worth a laugh.
On another note, I find it silly that you can buy this or this on eBay yet you can't buy a toy Megatron.