First Look at Studio Series 86 "Dead" Prowl from the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Line

And in just the exclusive line I expected too!

I can already see all the slightly different color eye stickers on his Reprolabels sheet. Maybe they'll have a pair to make headlights a bit more screen accurate too.

They should have done it over in grey, like they did with 'dead' ER Optimus. But this one's an easy pass for me. I never liked this version of the Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen mold. It's too flimsy, too small, it breaks too easily, and the completely hollow legs are just offensive. I wonder why they didn't give Ironhide a dead makeover too? Or... maybe they WILL. They could remove his head completely since Megatron blasted it off.

DeathReviews wrote:They should have done it over in grey, like they did with 'dead' ER Optimus. But this one's an easy pass for me. I never liked this version of the Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen mold. It's too flimsy, too small, it breaks too easily, and the completely hollow legs are just offensive. I wonder why they didn't give Ironhide a dead makeover too? Or... maybe they WILL. They could remove his head completely since Megatron blasted it off.

Dead Ironhide is rumored to be the other figure in this 2-pack.

That Prowl is still way too "alive" for me.

The Netflix Sparkless Bot, now THAT'S a dead bot.

Welp, I guess this figure is...dead on arrival.

An interchangeable head would've been nice
Or some orange lightpiping for the eyes and mouth
Chest looks like he has a wardrobe malfunction. Nip slip prowl

I like to think Hasbro will do proper dead repaints later, either in Selects or through Amazon since they probably wouldn't sell well on store shelves where they depend on kids.

Emerje

Yeah, i think i will need to get that one. This is hysterical!

Emerje wrote:I like to think Hasbro will do proper dead repaints later, either in Selects or through Amazon since they probably wouldn't sell well on store shelves where they depend on kids.

Emerje

... or given the sensitivity regarding certain RL events...

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Yeah, i think i will need to get that one. This is hysterical!

Yeah, I never said I wasn't getting it, even if I'm not exactly thrilled with it.

sol magnus wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Yeah, i think i will need to get that one. This is hysterical!

Yeah, I never said I wasn't getting it, even if I'm not exactly thrilled with it.

I almost feel like I am going to end up with a dead armada of bots, which is still funny to me.

I may get it. Although I kinda want a dead Starscream more since there would be more to it.

Come to think of it, I have the Sparkless dudes and dead Prime. I wonder how much undead Prime Cliffjumper is going for nowadays...

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I wonder how much undead Prime Cliffjumper is going for nowadays...

That might depend on which undead Prime Cliffjumper you mean, since there's three of him.


Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Rust In Peace Cliffjumper Gallery


Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Rust In Peace Cliffjumper Gallery

*looks them up*

Eh, too pricy for an impulse buy.

I barely have the space for their actual "live" undamaged versions so I definitely do not have the space to allocate to "dead/damaged" versions as well. I even struggle to justify buying alt repaints like Silverstreak, Road Rage etc.

The one aspect of this Prowl that I appreciate are the toon accurate colors.
And at the same time, it's also one of the flaws of this figure (more on that later).
Overall I think this was a bad decision, and a at best, a missed opportunity.

This critique has nothing to do with any love for this character...
I've never made a top 5 favorite Autobots list, but Prowl wouldn't even make my top 15-20.
For me, I've never been a fan of a themed figure where the theme is so limiting.
At least with Coronation Starscream, he could be displayed (or played with) without the coronation gear.
Even though I'd say it's fair to view this Prowl's alt mode as pointless, either way, imo it just doesn't look good.
Where the toon accurate deco falls flat for me is when considering the white areas could've and probably should've been a light-medium gray. The upper legs that are gray should've been closer to a charcoal gray.
As it is and looks to be finalized, as Razorbeast suggested, an interchangable head would've helped this figure, along with orange light-piping, or at least orange paint for the eyes and mouth.
I'm not saying any of these modifications would've swayed me, but the figure we're getting hasn't done enough with the theme imo.
If you're going to go with a limiting theme like this one, then it should've been taken further.

This would've been much better as a Selects release.
Even though Buzzworthy is an exclusive line, it's not the most difficult thing to get ahold of items from Target. I know not everyone lives in the U.S., or within a 30 minute drive of a Target store. I also say this as someone who has yet to find Origins Jazz.
But going back to the "limited" aspect of this theme, it's more limited than the SG figures.
I'm not even going into how bad I think it is that we're getting another Ironhide, but when I said this was a missed opportunity, this should have been Prowl in a screen accurate deco just like they did for Cliffjumper. Even though I got the previous Amazon 2 pack, I still would've bought a screen-accurate SS86 version.
And I say this even if it would've come with Ironhide... I just would've sold him.
In fact, this may have been a chance to get "ER" Hound's release secured.
Or even better still, make the 2 pack Sunstreaker and Hound, and give Prowl a solo release.
So that's also where this release bothers me-- there were better options, even if Hastak was set on a 2 pack release.

The "dead/dying" theme is a really good idea for the R.E.D. line.
It's still exclusive, the molded detail could've been increased, an alternate head and blast effects could've been included, and there's no lame, un-related alt mode to worry about.

Even if this would've been done well, I would've skipped it.
For me, this really is a worse idea than Coronation Starscream.

Speaking of Coronation Starscream, I went to 3 Targets and 2 Walmarts yesterday.

All of them had no fewer than 4 Starscreams shelfwarming.

It's annoying that they will not move.

The battle damage molding looks good, and the blast effect port is a nice touch, but man... that deco is bland. Both modes feel like they're lacking a lot of detail compared to the ER version, despite the addition of paint in a few places. The helmet chevrons only being painted from the front looks super cheap. The baby blue windows are my biggest issue, they simultaneously manage to look garish and be too light-colored to contrast the rest of his color scheme. Combined with the light gray plastic, it's makes for a bland figure. A bot who's main colors are white and black really needs some element to help the deco pop, and this Prowl just doesn't have it. If they do a non-dead release of this later on, I really hope they at least darken the window color.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Speaking of Coronation Starscream, I went to 3 Targets and 2 Walmarts yesterday.

All of them had no fewer than 4 Starscreams shelfwarming.

It's annoying that they will not move.

It's the same deal in all my local Targets and Walmarts, I think it's been at least a few months since one has sold (at least from what I can tell). It's almost like Siege Shockwave all over again, my local Targets had 8 of them each for almost a full year, and not a single one moved that whole time, until they all just disappeared one day.

The strangest part is they never go on clearance, even if the rest of the TF section is on sale.

I agree on the window/headlight color…
But it’s not that the color is too light.
The issue is that it’s too saturated.
Just slightly toned-down (mixed with a light gray), and it would be fine.
I would say this is too bland considering the theme/desired look.
And again, having the eyes and mouth orange would’ve helped quite a bit pull off the look from the scene.

I think Prowl's colors look fine in bot mode, between all the front facing blue and gray with some red along with the black and white he's fairly colorful. Car mode is a bit off, they messed up the b/w ratio.




Even in bot mode his doors are consistently mostly black like his car mode. Also not sure why they chose to do his door badge like that, it should be a blue shield with a gold star, why'd they stick a little blue Autobot symbol in there instead? Could someone have trademarked that?



Emerje

I would agree that his colors look decent in bot mode.
And with showing those animation stills, I think the issue I'm having with that blue is that it leans towards a tint of blue with just a tiny bit of green in it. I mean, it's close to what I'd be happy with, but again, it's over-saturated.
They could have increased the amount of black used as well.

I just wish this would've been a regular, SS86 version like the newest Ironhide...
Prowl should've had a solo release (giving those who missed the Amazon 2 pack a shot at a good "ER" version), and this 2 pack should've been Sunstreaker and Hound, which although short, would've been a little nod to the scene when those two and Prime arrive to Autobot city before OP's battle with Megatron.
I'm seriously smh at this "dead bots" release.

Well, here is Prowl's full animation model for better comparison:

After seeing Prowl I would’ve never expected much from the Ironhide that’s included…
None of these images change my opinion on how bad this idea is…
Sorry about the image quality… They’re screenshots from Instagram.

Does Prowl have a different head in that last pic? Hard to tell

Anyways... yeah this 2 pack kinda sucks haha F to the non-orange eyes/mouth and the chest mess

I'm still going to get it. For one thing, BLAST EFFECTS!

I think the weirdest thing about them is the packaging. They're posing for battle but ... you know ... are supposed to be dead.

I get they need to market the poseability, but it would have been funnier to see them marketed as laying on the ground.

I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics.

I would bet with that “inner chest” molded detail that’s a piece of solid plastic.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics.

I would bet with that “inner chest” molded detail that’s a piece of solid plastic.

At the very least, that part, yes. But I'm also talking about everything else like the side panels and roof bits. I would have a better clue if the guns were not pegged on the roof of the van.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics.

I would bet with that “inner chest” molded detail that’s a piece of solid plastic.

At the very least, that part, yes. But I'm also talking about everything else like the side panels and roof bits. I would have a better clue if the guns were not pegged on the roof of the van.

Doubtful…
Hastak isn’t going to go all solid plastic on this mold now…
They’re probably thinking the solid inner chest and the yellow stripes are more than enough of an “upgrade” for this figure.

Jtprime17 has given an update on the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Studio Series 86-24 Ironhide and 86-20 Prowl. Along with our first look at Ironhide we see that these figures do indeed come with blast effect parts. The box doesn't really mention the characters' demise and shows the characters in action poses, but we all know what this represents. As we've seen with other Buzzworthy SS86 figures Ironhide will also be trading in the clear blue windows for painted ones as well as massive chest windshield damage. The price is reported to be MSRP: $55.98 and DCPI: 087-26-0165, a great price for a Deluxe and a Voyager. Another big thanks to Sowndwave76 for letting us know!

Why didn't they paint the rest of Ironhide's window? Did the paint budget run out midway through? I guess a Ratchet and Brawn set is next. Maybe a Megatron? But it's in the Buzzworthy line so maybe it's a scrapped idea for a "death" subline.

I do like that chest damage molding on Ironhide.

Oh so this version get the stipe. lol
If the damaged sections were swap out panels I'd be more inclined to consider purchasing it, but being they're in permanent damage mode I'll have to pass. Now the wait for Hound to see how disappointing that turns one out as well.

I wonder why this Ironhide has the stripe and the actual SS86 figure doesn't.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder why this Ironhide has the stripe and the actual SS86 figure doesn't.

Imo it's Hastak throwing in something that they hope people will find appealing enough to bite.

I don't want any TF figure(s) to flop, but I hope this is it for the "dead"-themed figures...
Ratchet and Brawn could be next, but damn, please no.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Oh so this version get the stipe. lol
If the damaged sections were swap out panels I'd be more inclined to consider purchasing it, but being they're in permanent damage mode I'll have to pass. Now the wait for Hound to see how disappointing that turns one out as well.

I had the same thought with damaged parts that could be completely removed...
Especially with a more screen-accurate Prowl, that could have been enough for me to get this set.

Like I said before, a SS86 Buzzworthy 2-pack was a perfect opportunity to get Sunstreaker and Hound released. The inner packaging backdrop could've been the back of the shuttle with the ramp deployed...
And with it being "ER" Hound's first (and possibly only) release, I would've been okay if Sunstreaker was literally just the ER version.
This was a missed opportunity on a few accounts.

We got dead Ironhide before we got Ratchet

Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Such heroic nonsense.


I love it.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

Might be my first Ironhide at least it has the stripes, not keen on the windows for prowl. Just makes the figure look cheap but it's doubtful they will do dead versions again.

blackeyedprime wrote:Might be my first Ironhide at least it has the stripes, not keen on the windows for prowl. Just makes the figure look cheap but it's doubtful they will do dead versions again.

He didn't die in car mode.

But not to simply be flip, the color of the glass is exactly how it was in the movie.

I don't know why but I want this set! Zombie transformers. One so close to the end that I could use Unicron or one of his minions to resurrect

Ironhide should be missing a head (at least) and have one "pleading" hand, not two fists. As mentioned before, Prowl needs effects parts and/or ports for his eyes and mouth...

I was joking with a friend, as to who would come next in this "dead" line. Wouldn't it be funny if this line marked the debut of Windcharger?



Who hasn't had a new figure since 2018.

I admit, getting rid of the clear plastic has some allure to it. That clear stuff is notoriously brittle and I've seen many horror stories about the Prowl mold especially, with critical parts that break and snap major sections off just while transforming.

The combination of using weak plastic on critical transformation parts that require a lot of pressure and leverage when transforming was a horrible idea from an engineering perspective. Sure, let's make the support towers for this suspension bridge out of balsa wood and graham cracker, that sounds smart.

If they use more robust plastic for this Ironhide/Prowl, then the 'dead' versions could wind up being tougher and more long-wearing than the 'live' versions.

And how come only Optimus Prime's figure got the grey paint 'dead' makeover? If all cybertronians turn grey when they 'die', shouldn't all the dead figures get that color scheme? This kind of reaping detail is important to me, if nobody else... .

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?

And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

Rodimus Prime wrote:And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

Possibly in the RED line IE no altmodes needed...

Rodimus Prime wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?

And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

The assumption on my part was that he meant the packaging. LOL

sol magnus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?

And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

The assumption on my part was that he meant the packaging. LOL

I was just being snarky. I did think you were referring to Kup and Cliffy's windshields at 1st, since they were painted in their BB versions.