Forgotten Gem: Alternators Rumble
Tuesday, March 31st, 2020 4:16AM CDT
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Unpacking them, I'd remembered the major figures. Smokescreen, he started it all. Sideswipe, he came after Smokescreen. Grimlock and his annoying pain in the arse double hip rotation point.
But the one thing I'd forgotten, was this guy.
This guy, was released in 2006. Yeah, fourteen years ago. Yes, it's been that long since we've had Alternators, sadly, this meant we didn't get Frenzy to match.
This figure is awesome. Transforming from a Honda Civic Si, Rumble is quite different from all other Alternators, in that he has no hands.
Instead, he has PILE DRIVERS!
These, are a bit of a let down. They're "spring loaded" but once they're deployed they get a little floppy.
They definitely put some thought into this figure. In addition to his pile drivers, they also incorporated the look of his cassette chest.
Not only that, but back mounted weapons (ala G1) are also included. One of which, like virtually all other Alternators, formed the engine in vehicle mode (with the spare fitting into the boot/trunk)
Transformation is standard for the Alternators line, in fact, it's probably the most simplest.
As I said at the start, I had forgotten about this guy. Before I moved he sat in alt mode, which, if you looked at it, it could have been anyone (provided you ignore the rego plates). So finding him today and getting to transform him and display him was fun. He's definitely a forogtten gem in my collection.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2020 @ 4:40am CDT
And Alternator Rumble is one of them. What baffle me the most is how and WHY did HasTak never bothered to make the easy Frenzy repaint? Rumble is his unique mold and making his brother was basically free money. Oh well.
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As for the "hidden gem", I can only go with Animated Voyager Bulkhead. It's been years since I transformed him and I just did yesterday. His only fault is he's not in scale with anyone. But his design is just PERFECT. He's fun to transform and his vehicle and robot mode are MASTERPIECE level of show accuracy.
Animated Voyager Bulkhead is one of the BEST Transformers in my collection and it's baffling he was ignored for so long. The only Bulkhead that was superior to him is the Prime First Edition.
Posted by Emerje on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:51am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:And Alternator Rumble is one of them. What baffle me the most is how and WHY did HasTak never bothered to make the easy Frenzy repaint? Rumble is his unique mold and making his brother was basically free money. Oh well.
Tail-ender syndrome, Walmart exclusive Rumble, Ravage, and SDCC Hot Rod were the last of the line from Hasbro as they moved on to the first movie line as their licensed cars line of choice. I'm more surprised that Takara Tomy didn't jump on them since Binaltech would continue for another two years after their release.
As far as forgotten gems go, I'm a sucker for Allspark Power Stockade. I bought him and Incinerator while at an anime convention that year (2008). I keep forgetting about him, I'm not even sure where he is right now, but then I look at one of the SS Dreads and want to dig him out again.
He's such an imposing looking 'Con that almost has a Nemesis Prime vibe about him thanks to his Allspark turquoise. The big arms with big articulated hands and extending wrists are one heck of a feature! Yeah, he's got a lot of window kibble hanging from his arms, but there's something kinda neat about the way they catch light. Plus his alt mode is a Sector Seven SUV.
This would have been an excellent figure to repaint into RID X-Brawn, but for whatever reason they decided to go with Gears of all characters. Not a big fan of that redeco though his alt mode is sorta X-Brawn-ish.
Emerje
Posted by Burn on March 31st, 2020 @ 6:12am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:As for the "hidden gem", I can only go with Animated Voyager Bulkhead. It's been years since I transformed him and I just did yesterday. His only fault is he's not in scale with anyone. But his design is just PERFECT. He's fun to transform and his vehicle and robot mode are MASTERPIECE level of show accuracy.
Setting up the Animated portion of my collection was fun. Not a fan of the cartoon aesthetic, but damn did it produce some very unique and absolutely amazing figures.
Emerje wrote:As far as forgotten gems go, I'm a sucker for Allspark Power Stockade.
He's a great figure! What I really liked about it him was he didn't have that ugly monster/alien look that a lot of the 'Cons were subjected to. He could easily fit into a non-movie line up.
Posted by Tigerhawk7109 on March 31st, 2020 @ 7:12am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2020 @ 7:15am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 31st, 2020 @ 9:24am CDT
I even made a sort of "Gerwalk Mode" out of him that I would pretend was being controlled by the adult Spike Witwicky in a scenario where Hound's mind was taken offline and needed Spike to defend his body until his mind could be restored. Of course, I didn't have any Spike figure to sit in Hound's driver seat, so I just had to imagine that he was there.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on March 31st, 2020 @ 9:37am CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on March 31st, 2020 @ 10:00am CDT
I used to like the Alternators, but over time they just collected dust for me as I found them to be fiddly and not fun to play with. They just didn't do it for me anymore.
My Hidden Gem, 2007-movie Dropkick. I love the guy.
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Posted by X3ROhour on March 31st, 2020 @ 10:13am CDT
is the fact that Rumble
the mitless wonder
is delivered in the same case
as this magnificent piece of work:
Ravage!
the jaguar that transforms into a Jaguar!!
NOICE!
Posted by Evil Eye on March 31st, 2020 @ 11:05am CDT
As far as hidden gems in my own collection, I'd have to vote for the Energon flak tank mold from the Bruticus team. He's a really, really cool figure- decently poseable for his small size, fun to transform, has a rotating turret and elevating guns in his tank mode, and a really interesting robot mode- I like to think of him and his mold mates as "Tank Seekers", as he has a bit of a Seekery look to him with the shoulder pylons, arm guns and tread "wings".
Posted by no-one on March 31st, 2020 @ 11:22am CDT
Not only in just appearance, but in the US only half of the duo was released.
I picked up the Hasbro PRID Rumble and have since re-purposed him as Frenzy and then gave AM Rumble his pile drivers. I have the "bastard set" with my other cassette bots.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2020 @ 12:39pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 31st, 2020 @ 12:43pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2020 @ 12:56pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:@Z3ROhour Given what I've heard about Alternators hands (and my experience with hands that use the same peg system), Rumble being a "mitless wonder" isn't necessarily a bad thing.
What's wrong with the hands on Alternators?
I almost owned them all at some point and I still own 5 or 6. I never ever had any problems with them holding their guns, no matter who.
Posted by TulioDude on March 31st, 2020 @ 1:10pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 31st, 2020 @ 3:08pm CDT
I've heard that the weapon pegs aren't always the most reliable thing, and I've noticed a tendency to pop loose with both Sparkdrinker and Cybertron Optimus' gun, which use the same system. Leobreaker's whip and Wing Saber's sword hilts are a bit more reliable, but still.-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:@Z3ROhour Given what I've heard about Alternators hands (and my experience with hands that use the same peg system), Rumble being a "mitless wonder" isn't necessarily a bad thing.
What's wrong with the hands on Alternators?
I almost owned them all at some point and I still own 5 or 6. I never ever had any problems with them holding their guns, no matter who.
Posted by Burn on March 31st, 2020 @ 3:14pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:My only regret with the Alternator cassettes is the fact that we will never see Laserbeak.
Considering how much of a mess Ravage looks like in jaguar mode, I can only imagine how awkward Lazerbeak would have looked.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2020 @ 4:47pm CDT
Burn wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:My only regret with the Alternator cassettes is the fact that we will never see Laserbeak.
Considering how much of a mess Ravage looks like in jaguar mode, I can only imagine how awkward Lazerbeak would have looked.
Well, Ravage is indeed a mess, but he's cool with his mess.
This just make me want to see a full car with a clean underbelly and complete interior become a condor even more!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2020 @ 4:50pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I've heard that the weapon pegs aren't always the most reliable thing, and I've noticed a tendency to pop loose with both Sparkdrinker and Cybertron Optimus' gun, which use the same system. Leobreaker's whip and Wing Saber's sword hilts are a bit more reliable, but still.-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:@Z3ROhour Given what I've heard about Alternators hands (and my experience with hands that use the same peg system), Rumble being a "mitless wonder" isn't necessarily a bad thing.
What's wrong with the hands on Alternators?
I almost owned them all at some point and I still own 5 or 6. I never ever had any problems with them holding their guns, no matter who.
Instead of relying on hearsays, why don't you try getting some Alternators yourself?
Used, they could be at a reasonable price. And if you love your premium paint job and diecast, go for Binaltech.
I recommend these molds and their repaints:
Prowl, Hound, Rodimus, Skids, Jazz. Rumble and Jaguar Ravage if you're not afraid to think outside the box.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 31st, 2020 @ 4:56pm CDT
I'll pass. I do want to get an Alternators Hound at some point to do a Jurassic Park Jeep repaint, but other things have decidedly higher priority.-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I've heard that the weapon pegs aren't always the most reliable thing, and I've noticed a tendency to pop loose with both Sparkdrinker and Cybertron Optimus' gun, which use the same system. Leobreaker's whip and Wing Saber's sword hilts are a bit more reliable, but still.-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:@Z3ROhour Given what I've heard about Alternators hands (and my experience with hands that use the same peg system), Rumble being a "mitless wonder" isn't necessarily a bad thing.
What's wrong with the hands on Alternators?
I almost owned them all at some point and I still own 5 or 6. I never ever had any problems with them holding their guns, no matter who.
Instead of relying on hearsays, why don't you try getting some Alternators yourself?
Used, they could be at a reasonable price. And if you love your premium paint job and diecast, go for Binaltech.
I recommend these molds and their repaints:
Prowl, Hound, Rodimus, Skids, Jazz. Rumble and Jaguar Ravage if you're not afraid to think outside the box.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:08pm CDT
Posted by Burn on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:22pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Alternators Prowl. Ugh. Talk about the exact opposite of a 'forgotten gem.' Unforgettable turd? To me that mold was the worst of the Alternators line.
I remember at the time that if you swapped his legs around, that improved the look dramatically. Others also repainted the blue parts which also improved the look.
You know who needed improvement? Tracks. I can only imagine how many upgrade sets Reprolabels sold for him at the time.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:26pm CDT
You mean Alternator Red Alert with the Wrong Head? (and meanwhile Red's head wound up on the bod that should have been Prowl).Rodimus Prime wrote:Alternators Prowl.
Probably that combined with Jazz being bland since he was just plain white. Reprolabels' sheet for him to give him his racecar stripes was probably tied with the firebird for Tracks for their most popular offering back in the day.Rodimus Prime wrote:Ironically, I didn't care for Meister, Shocky's mold mate. Maybe it was the purple?
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:32pm CDT
Whichever. I just know I didn't even like looking at that figure.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You mean Alternator Red Alert with the Wrong Head? (and meanwhile Red's head wound up on the bod that should have been Prowl).Rodimus Prime wrote:Alternators Prowl.
Yeah, I figured it was that reason. Tracks, however, I liked the way he was. I know he could have used the flames on the hood, and I think Corvettes are way overrated looks-wise, but that blue is my favorite color, so he got a pass.Probably that combined with Jazz being bland since he was just plain white. Reprolabels' sheet for him to give him his racecar stripes was probably tied with the firebird for Tracks for their most popular offering back in the day.Rodimus Prime wrote:Ironically, I didn't care for Meister, Shocky's mold mate. Maybe it was the purple?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:50pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Alternators Prowl. Ugh. Talk about the exact opposite of a 'forgotten gem.' Unforgettable turd? To me that mold was the worst of the Alternators line. My favorite, though I don't know if he could be considered a forgotten gem, was Alternators Shockwave, followed by Hound. Ironically, I didn't care for Meister, Shocky's mold mate. Maybe it was the purple?
The Prowl mold is awesome. Appart the arm transformation who are a literal Chinese puzzle!
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2020 @ 7:22pm CDT
To each his own.-Kanrabat- wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Alternators Prowl. Ugh. Talk about the exact opposite of a 'forgotten gem.' Unforgettable turd? To me that mold was the worst of the Alternators line. My favorite, though I don't know if he could be considered a forgotten gem, was Alternators Shockwave, followed by Hound. Ironically, I didn't care for Meister, Shocky's mold mate. Maybe it was the purple?
The Prowl mold is awesome. Appart the arm transformation who are a literal Chinese puzzle!
To me it's the only Alternators figure that looks like crap in both modes.
Posted by DEANO85 on March 31st, 2020 @ 7:48pm CDT
Ive also got Tracks, Hound, Optimus, Skids, Grimlock, Sideswipe, Silverstreak, Mirage, Deadend and Decepticharge
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2020 @ 8:48pm CDT
This whole thread made me appreciate my Kiss Players Autorooper Atari set even more.
Too bad it was never made into an anime.
I'm really tempted to get this guy to go with her, but it's pretty expensive:
Posted by Burn on March 31st, 2020 @ 10:56pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 1st, 2020 @ 12:43am CDT
Burn wrote:Unpacking them made me appreciate them even less and I will probably end up selling them.
You mean, wen getting one brand new?
In that case, it can apply to all kind of toys.
On my end, it's rather about unpacking the USED toys. I moved in this apartment two years and a half ago and I still have at least 3 or 4 boxes left of toys to unpack and put on display. But I have no room to display any of them because of all the new stuff I kept buying over time.
Posted by Burn on April 1st, 2020 @ 1:42am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Burn wrote:Unpacking them made me appreciate them even less and I will probably end up selling them.
You mean, wen getting one brand new?
The Kiss Players stuff.
Like all the Binaltechs, they're still boxed. I briefly put them on shelves and decided that they're just repaints, the molds aren't exactly the greatest, they're in robot mode as opposed to alt mode like the rest, to me, they just don't fit in ... I really don't need them.
Posted by Emerje on April 1st, 2020 @ 1:43am CDT
I'm thinking a convertible where the halves of the car would split down the middle to form the wings revealing the bird bits underneath. Perhaps the windshield could lay down flat and the trunk could flip over to partially cover the interior and reveal his trademark guns and rockets on the other side. The wheels could stay on the wings and sit underneath like VTOL engines. I think it'd look really neat.
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 1st, 2020 @ 5:30am CDT
Burn wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Burn wrote:Unpacking them made me appreciate them even less and I will probably end up selling them.
You mean, wen getting one brand new?
The Kiss Players stuff.
Like all the Binaltechs, they're still boxed. I briefly put them on shelves and decided that they're just repaints, the molds aren't exactly the greatest, they're in robot mode as opposed to alt mode like the rest, to me, they just don't fit in ... I really don't need them.
That's why I only bought Autorooper. At least it have a new head, extra molded details, and an unique paint job. Having sold Jazz and Shockwave, he's the only one of this mold that remain in my collection.
I keep my Alternators collection at only one mold each so that's why I may never buy Alert because I already have Smokescreen.
Posted by Evil Eye on April 1st, 2020 @ 6:54am CDT
Emerje wrote:I imagine an Alternators Laserbeak would transform similar to Booster X10.
I'm thinking a convertible where the halves of the car would split down the middle to form the wings revealing the bird bits underneath. Perhaps the windshield could lay down flat and the trunk could flip over to partially cover the interior and reveal his trademark guns and rockets on the other side. The wheels could stay on the wings and sit underneath like VTOL engines. I think it'd look really neat.
Emerje
Now that's a hidden gem. I still kiiiiiiinda want that figure- it doesn't fit with any collection, sure, but it's a cool concept and it looks so good!
Posted by ScottyP on April 1st, 2020 @ 7:24am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 1st, 2020 @ 7:40am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Still wish they'd done the blue one in Binaltech Fantastic toy though, a really solid mold without some of the more pain in the shoulders bits that some of the line had.
Yeah. Baffling they didn't made Frenzy as a Bibaltech. Even as an exclusive like the insanely priced Nemesis Prime.
Also, yeah, pretzels Chinese puzzle arms. Many molds have them.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 1st, 2020 @ 7:53am CDT
Emerje wrote:I imagine an Alternators Laserbeak would transform similar to Booster X10.
Emerje
I remember this guy. For a time he was perched on the original MP Megatron's hand in my display (with a little help from sticky tack).
The Real Gear robots was a fun line, but there just wasn't enough in line with my interests (Classics, pretty much).
Posted by no-one on April 1st, 2020 @ 8:00am CDT
I've got my Booster perched on the new MP Megs. They scale well together in both modes. Booster was more articulated than I expected and is a fun figure. I forgot I had it, as I only recently picked one up on a business trip. It's the only real gear I've kept.Gauntlet101010 wrote:I remember this guy. For a time he was perched on the original MP Megatron's hand in my display (with a little help from sticky tack).Emerje wrote:I imagine an Alternators Laserbeak would transform similar to Booster X10.
[img]Booster_Beak.jpg[/img]
Emerje
The Real Gear robots was a fun line, but there just wasn't enough in line with my interests (Classics, pretty much).
Posted by trailbreaker on April 2nd, 2020 @ 10:02pm CDT
From the Cybertron line : Downshift.
Posted by Emerje on April 2nd, 2020 @ 10:38pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Now that's a hidden gem. I still kiiiiiiinda want that figure- it doesn't fit with any collection, sure, but it's a cool concept and it looks so good!
I stick mine with Music Label Soundwave. He's a little big, but both having real world music player alt modes makes for a nice pairing.
Emerje
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 2nd, 2020 @ 11:11pm CDT
Technically the Real Gears could fit in with a Cybertron collection, since they're tail-end Cybertron toys that got held back and repackaged as movie figures (especially blatant on Longview, Zoom Out 25X, Power Up VT6, and Spy Shot 6).Black Hat wrote:Emerje wrote:I imagine an Alternators Laserbeak would transform similar to Booster X10.
I'm thinking a convertible where the halves of the car would split down the middle to form the wings revealing the bird bits underneath. Perhaps the windshield could lay down flat and the trunk could flip over to partially cover the interior and reveal his trademark guns and rockets on the other side. The wheels could stay on the wings and sit underneath like VTOL engines. I think it'd look really neat.
Emerje
Now that's a hidden gem. I still kiiiiiiinda want that figure- it doesn't fit with any collection, sure, but it's a cool concept and it looks so good!
Posted by Burn on April 4th, 2020 @ 5:32pm CDT
My intial reaction was "Bloody hell this is stupid and crap". But by the time I'd finished it had changed to "I don't know if this looks like crap, but it's ingenious, so it actually looks kinda good".
In all honesty, it shouldn't look as good as it does but they some how managed to pull it off.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 4th, 2020 @ 5:36pm CDT
Burn wrote:In all honesty, it shouldn't look as good as it does but they some how managed to pull it off.
Pictures don't do Alternator Ravage justice.
It's one of those toys that must be felt in order to be appreciated.
Posted by Burn on April 4th, 2020 @ 5:44pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Burn wrote:In all honesty, it shouldn't look as good as it does but they some how managed to pull it off.
Pictures don't do Alternator Ravage justice.
It's one of those toys that must be felt in order to be appreciated.
Like, you wouldn't think much of it, but by having the both the front and back halves fold pointing down into the middle of the body actually gives it that sleek jaguar look. So yeah, pictures will only show much, you actually need to be able to see it for yourself, to be able to turn it every way from Sunday to see just how ingenious a design it is.
Still prefer Rumble though.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 4th, 2020 @ 5:48pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 4th, 2020 @ 5:58pm CDT
Low def, but still nice!
Posted by X3ROhour on April 5th, 2020 @ 1:02am CDT
Emerje wrote:I imagine an Alternators Laserbeak would transform similar to Booster X10.
I'm thinking a convertible where the halves of the car would split down the middle to form the wings revealing the bird bits underneath. Perhaps the windshield could lay down flat and the trunk could flip over to partially cover the interior and reveal his trademark guns and rockets on the other side. The wheels could stay on the wings and sit underneath like VTOL engines. I think it'd look really neat.
Emerje
Okay...
THIS is what you are all looking for.
MMPR TOYOTA CAMRY ZORD
I got one back in the day,
at the same time as Binalts.
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2020 @ 5:17am CDT
Z3ROhour wrote:Okay...
THIS is what you are all looking for.
MMPR TOYOTA CAMRY ZORD
I got one back in the day,
at the same time as Binalts.
Totally forgot that existed. Didn't realize RPM was so long ago, dang. Yeah, that's basically what I was thinking, but with the front of the car also, sort of forming the "elbow" on the wing. But yeah, that's pretty near perfect in concept.
Emerje
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 22nd, 2020 @ 4:52pm CDT