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Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Tuesday, May 10th, 2022 11:48AM CDT

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In the thumbnail we have a shot that aims to answer the most pressing question from these new reveals: what exactly is this SS86 Arcee? Well, it is a new toy which has half the tooling of the thrilling 30 release (the upper half) and new tooling for the lower half. So we have a flatter, more toon accurate, stomach instead of the prominant womb outline the T30 release had. You can see comparison with the Takara version of the T30 mold below (the new one is the one with less accurate paint apps). It has a lot more car shell than the T30 version, covering the side of the car, like the Earthrise version. This is integrated into the backpack. Of course, this has already spawned comments claiming the backpack is too big, and from there you can see how Hasbro thought giving us a removeable part of the backpack with the Earthrise toy would have been a good idea. Well at least now G1 fans have lots of options when it comes to arcee. For a smaller back pack with partsforming but a more accurate car mode, you have the Earthrise toy. For a smaller backpack with no partsforming but a less accurate car mode, you have the T30 toy. And for a more accurate car mode and no partsforming backpack, you have this toy which does have a larger backpack. What options works best for you?

Along with arcee we have reveals for the DOTM Bumblebee, which is a slight remold of the ROTF Bumblebee, and ROTF Sideways which is a new mold.

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

Transformers News: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways

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Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133093)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on May 10th, 2022 @ 11:51am CDT
Man that new backpack is definitely longer.. I'll still nab her on sight.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133094)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2022 @ 11:51am CDT
For reference, here's Arcee's cartoon model:

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Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133095)
Posted by blackeyedprime on May 10th, 2022 @ 11:51am CDT
think i'd be tempted to buy one of the £8 shelf warming Earthrise Arcees over a £22 SS86 deluxe. They could have at least upgraded it like the oversized KO did.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133096)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2022 @ 11:54am CDT
Legends Arcee is still the best Arcee to me. While I totally get how this new one and the earthrise one are more accurate in alt mode, I always loved the attempt at Takara to offer more vehicle integration, which homaged the original design/conception of the character. She is more of a legit transformer toy to me rather than a shell former. Not knocking anything, just saying my preference.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133097)
Posted by SpaceEagle on May 10th, 2022 @ 11:54am CDT
Oh huh, that Arcee actually looks a lot better than I thought...
I'm not the biggest fan of that plank of a backpack...but no partsforming of the Earthrise version...and a way better body than the T30 version...I think I might actually pick this Arcee up!

Also wow that Sideways looks really good. Especially properly transformed. I am definitely picking this guy up too.

(The BB looks good too.)
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133101)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on May 10th, 2022 @ 12:01pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Legends Arcee is still the best Arcee to me. While I totally get how this new one and the earthrise one are more accurate in alt mode, I always loved the attempt at Takara to offer more vehicle integration, which homaged the original design/conception of the character. She is more of a legit transformer toy to me rather than a shell former. Not knocking anything, just saying my preference.


So jelly.. :lol:
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133104)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on May 10th, 2022 @ 12:07pm CDT
I'm glad to see they are going to paint Arcee's face and lips in this version. Her face in Earthrise was just kind of blah and boring.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133105)
Posted by Grahf_ on May 10th, 2022 @ 12:07pm CDT
Okay so I wasn't seeing things last night a 1am when looking at the silhouette. That is indeed a new lower torso with a trapezoid in the middle with new hips and thighs. Then they also redid the lower legs as well to have ankle pivots like I was hoping for. Those still look like the 5mm hand arms from the T30 mold though. So not only will they drop things easily, the hands will also be fragile. Great. Legacy Arcee has closed off 5mm hands so why can't all female Transformers? I hate the open hands they put on several female figures. That doesn't look like a new head though but the paint job on it isn't too bad.

So even despite not having a new fourth set of hands, this new "Frankenstein" Arcee looks like a fun action figure unlike T30 Arcee. Ankle pivots are awesome. The hips look and function like a normal figure. There's a waist swivel. There even appears to be an ab crunch. The backpack is what it is. It looks like the "best" of both T30 and ER Arcee function/look wise.

If this was a straight reissue of either T30 or ER Arcee I would've skipped it. This "Frankenstein" figure interests me though. I still like TR Arcee best so far for a G1ish rep despite not being the most accurate looking. I look forward to seeing if this can beat that figure for me. I also look forward to the 3D printed clavicle flap replacement to accept a Titan Master. I'd look forward to the DNA Designs kit featuring new arms with better hands for her but DNA sucks lately.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133118)
Posted by Glarryg on May 10th, 2022 @ 12:34pm CDT
I'll always be part of a (probably) small contingency that prefers vehicle integration over screen accuracy. Lady robots don't need shapely legs and tiny feet in my opinion; give me big chunky boots and wheels on the shins any day, or--call me crazy--wheels for feet like the Bayverse triplets. Still, I know that's not what the goal is here, so I think they did a decent job with adjusting the T30 figure to match the cartoon a little more.

I've said it before: there's no way to get Arcee 100% right, so you have to pick your battles one way or the other. In that vein, this is pretty good.

Glarryg
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133123)
Posted by Hero Alpha on May 10th, 2022 @ 12:43pm CDT
Man that Sideways looks incredibly cool. One of the best looking Bayverse car figures so far. Bee looks like every other movie Bee to me basically. Some of them would be pretty good looking if they just got rid of the wheels behind his shoulders. That always ruins the look of them I think. But I dont collect movie figures, except SS 07' Megatron and Evasion Optimus.

Arcee is a waste. I will still stick to my :TAKARATOMY: Legends Arcee. It still has the best/most accurate paint, look, alt mode and thicc hawtness ;)^ for me. Only thing I didnt like bouts it was the little nub of plastic in her hands that wouldnt let weapons stick out the bottom and I just cut it out.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133128)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 10th, 2022 @ 12:56pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Legends Arcee is still the best Arcee to me. While I totally get how this new one and the earthrise one are more accurate in alt mode, I always loved the attempt at Takara to offer more vehicle integration, which homaged the original design/conception of the character. She is more of a legit transformer toy to me rather than a shell former. Not knocking anything, just saying my preference.


I’ve been a longtime supporter of Legends Arcee being the best G1 Arcee transforming figure. I am impressed with this new Studio Series 86 version, because all of the new tooling is great, backpack woes aside. All of the right things have been changed for her legs, so the silhouette is better than ever. It’s just a shame they couldn’t give us just a few more paint operations. Really, it’s just the lack of red detail on the belt, gray on the chest/front bumper, and pink hands. I get that budgets are tight, and a lot of new tooling went into this, but they apparently are skipping most of the accessories from the T30/LG version, so I think they could have found the pennies for a few more dabs of paint, especially given that Arcee is still a smaller than average Deluxe Class figure.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133136)
Posted by Munkky on May 10th, 2022 @ 2:01pm CDT
I always liked the Thrilling 30 Arcee mould, there are days when I regret selling it on Ebay, so it's nice to see the mould back and with some improvements. Granted, I'm a bit sad that she doesn't have her monster thighs any more, but the vehicle mode is a step-up from the original and I'm happy she has ankle joints. I'll see if I can get this, but I get the feeling she'll sell out fast.
I've never cared that much about Sideways, I'm semi-tempted to get him for my Multiverse display and pretend he's the dimension-hopping Unicron Trilogy Sideways in case we never get one in Legacy, but we'll see. That Bumblebee is surprisingly impressive too, that's one I will try to get, and maybe swap out my First Movie 08 Camaro Bumblebee for it.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133137)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on May 10th, 2022 @ 2:06pm CDT
Munkky wrote:I always liked the Thrilling 30 Arcee mould, there are days when I regret selling it on Ebay, so it's nice to see the mould back and with some improvements. Granted, I'm a bit sad that she doesn't have her monster thighs any more, but the vehicle mode is a step-up from the original and I'm happy she has ankle joints. I'll see if I can get this, but I get the feeling she'll sell out fast.
I've never cared that much about Sideways, I'm semi-tempted to get him for my Multiverse display and pretend he's the dimension-hopping Unicron Trilogy Sideways in case we never get one in Legacy, but we'll see. That Bumblebee is surprisingly impressive too, that's one I will try to get, and maybe swap out my First Movie 08 Camaro Bumblebee for it.


I still have my t30 Arcee from the movie anniversary boxed set, which is similar to the :TAKARATOMY: release. In a way, it makes sense for them to return to it. the MP arcee is essentially an upscaled more involved version. Even the popular over-sexualized third party Nicee on is based off it's design.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133141)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on May 10th, 2022 @ 2:29pm CDT
Oy vey, yet another Arcee so soon I mean how many is that within just the last few years? Is she one that needs to constantly be out on shelves year after year despite having a previous version still readily available? This will make three Arcee figures available at the exact same time since ER and Kingdom still have stock at several online shops.

I like Arcee but that's overkill IMO meanwhile where is a Sunstreaker reissue instead of swimming in Arcee figures? That said the figure does look nice and a bit sleeker than ER/Kingdom but I already have ER version so I'm sticking with that.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133144)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 10th, 2022 @ 2:40pm CDT
I can't believe I'm going to say this but I think they should've done a new mold or just released the Earthrise version with some better paint. Yes, the Earthrise version has a bland transformation. Yes, the backpack is an abomination, but that can be removed and you have a very, VERY, accurate robot mode. If I remember correctly the T30 version required the black gun to hold the arms in place, had just as big of a shell, and the hands were prone to breaking due to the thinness of the plastic in them. I'll wait to get this in hand since lately in hand has been WAY better than pictures but I'm not holding out hope.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133155)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2022 @ 3:49pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:Oy vey, yet another Arcee so soon I mean how many is that within just the last few years?


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This is the 4th deluxe G1 styled Arcee released in a Generations line sporting a "distinct" mold.

We had one in Thrilling 30, Titans Return, Earthrise (Kingdom rerelease) and now SS86.

But I like it, it means Hasbro sees Arcee as one of the main characters of the franchise now, always wanting one on the shelves be it either G1 or some other version (like Cyberverse or Prime).

Arcee is one of the stars of ROTB so Hasbro wants to hunker down on that name recognition
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133156)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on May 10th, 2022 @ 4:00pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I can't believe I'm going to say this but I think they should've done a new mold or just released the Earthrise version with some better paint. Yes, the Earthrise version has a bland transformation. Yes, the backpack is an abomination, but that can be removed and you have a very, VERY, accurate robot mode. If I remember correctly the T30 version required the black gun to hold the arms in place, had just as big of a shell, and the hands were prone to breaking due to the thinness of the plastic in them. I'll wait to get this in hand since lately in hand has been WAY better than pictures but I'm not holding out hope.


Never had any of those issues with my T30 Arcee especially the black gun holding the arms in place. I am sure a few did but they are in the minority.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133161)
Posted by Tuned Agent on May 10th, 2022 @ 4:42pm CDT
And the surprises keep coming.

Bee looks great. They handled the chest detailing a bit differently than I thought they would, but it works. The deco is also really good overall, especially all the paint in alt mode, which just makes the RotF version's deco look that much worse. My only meaningful gripe is that they reused the clunker Bee head, but at least they didn't paint his face bright silver this time. I might have to pick this guy up.

Glarryg wrote:I'll always be part of a (probably) small contingency that prefers vehicle integration over screen accuracy. Lady robots don't need shapely legs and tiny feet in my opinion; give me big chunky boots and wheels on the shins any day, or--call me crazy--wheels for feet like the Bayverse triplets. Still, I know that's not what the goal is here, so I think they did a decent job with adjusting the T30 figure to match the cartoon a little more.

I've said it before: there's no way to get Arcee 100% right, so you have to pick your battles one way or the other. In that vein, this is pretty good.

Glarryg

100% agree. I think this is about the best G1 Arcee that could realistically be made, and now it's time to let this design die and completely move on. An Arcee retool of Legacy Elita-1/Minerva would be great.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133164)
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 10th, 2022 @ 4:48pm CDT
SS - ER - Lgs Arcee.jpg


(From Top to bottom: - Studio Series, Earthrise and Takara Legends)
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133167)
Posted by RotorstormNZ on May 10th, 2022 @ 4:53pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:Oy vey, yet another Arcee so soon I mean how many is that within just the last few years? Is she one that needs to constantly be out on shelves year after year despite having a previous version still readily available?

Are you at all familiar with the names Optimus Prime and Megatron? ;)
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133172)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 10th, 2022 @ 7:14pm CDT
Cyber Bishop wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I can't believe I'm going to say this but I think they should've done a new mold or just released the Earthrise version with some better paint. Yes, the Earthrise version has a bland transformation. Yes, the backpack is an abomination, but that can be removed and you have a very, VERY, accurate robot mode. If I remember correctly the T30 version required the black gun to hold the arms in place, had just as big of a shell, and the hands were prone to breaking due to the thinness of the plastic in them. I'll wait to get this in hand since lately in hand has been WAY better than pictures but I'm not holding out hope.


Never had any of those issues with my T30 Arcee especially the black gun holding the arms in place. I am sure a few did but they are in the minority.


I don't think the gun part was shown in the instructions but many missed it. The arms tab into the side then it pegs into the chest/stomach area. Helps lock everything down.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133179)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 10th, 2022 @ 8:38pm CDT
So DOTM Bumblebee is my favorite version of movie Bee, who (as you all can probably guess) is my favorite Transformer! I've been really anticipating Studio Series' take on the design (thus my mold change breakdown I made a little while ago), and now it's finally been revealed!

And I am absolutely going to geek out about it!

Let's start off in alt mode because this completely blew me away:

They remolded every single tiny difference on the DOTM Camaro! The grill, hood, and spoiler are the big things I was hoping they would get, but even when I made the breakdown I wasn't expecting to see the tiny Autobot badges, the side vents, the tires, and even the doubled up exhaust pipes remolded! That last one in particular is really cool to me, since I didn't notice the dual exhaust pipes until I played the DOTM video game. By the way, the antennae on the back of the roof that's been around since SS-49 is finally accurate to this version of the Camaro!

To show how much was remolded, everything in green is new:
DOTM Bee alt remold.jpg


I don't take the paint into consideration too much with figures since I'll be painting it myself, but I am very glad that he has a cohesive grill all the way across, unlike the ROTF version. The gunmetal paint on the tires is accurate, by the way! I always thought it was gloss black but after seeing more pics of the actual Camaro today, it is gunmetal! The stripes are missing on the back of alt mode (as they were on the original DOTM deluxe), but that's an easy fix, especially because there's no pinstriping. A small additional note, you can see in bot mode that they painted the exhaust pipe area on the back of the Camaro in black, the first time that's been done with the mold.


Moving onto bot mode, it doesn't have the extent of remolding that alt mode does, but I'm happy with what they did do:

The central chest piece has been remolded to show some of the new chest details (which I was concerned may not happen because most promo renders of Bee from DOTM still have the ROTF chest). Now, on the CG model Bee's changes to bot mode include the abdomen as well, which doesn't appear to be changed from the ROTF version. Given that the abdomen panel has to be completely flat in order to stow in alt mode, I can see how this would have been very difficult to implement, and the chest piece does include some of that detailing, so overall I'm happy with it.

There are a few other small things missing: the collar pieces are different for the DOTM model (which is something I might be able to approximate with paint), and something I missed that someone else pointed out: there are new yellow details on his shoulders for the DOTM version which do not appear here. The secondary wings are formed by the spoiler in DOTM, but there is no way to achieve this with the real parts with this mold, and the use of faux parts would require altering transformation and allocating that kibble elsewhere, so I'm totally ok that they didn't do that.

Overall for bot mode, it's not perfectly accurate in the way that alt mode is, but I think they definitely accomplished what they needed to with that new chest piece. The picture below shows the updated bot mode parts in green, and the areas that are different on the the DOTM model but were not updated on the figure in red:
DOTM Bee bot remold.jpg


I was initially disappointed with the head sculpt, but someone pointed out that it is in fact slightly retooled (note the cheek area). Another interesting thing to keep an eye out for is the three arrow marks on the top of the helmet - they were included on the TLK deluxe based on concept art (though not in the final film), and have persisted to Clunker Bee, and they may have removed them with this release. I would've preferred a new sculpt similar to WWII Bee, but the slight update is appreciated and I can always swap in the battle mask head.
TLK:
TLK Bee head.JPG

SS DOTM:
SS DOTM Bee head.JPG


A couple notes on paint:
- The foream shields have both silver and gunmetal accents on them, a first for this mold (the black details on the edges are absent, but no DOTM/TLK Bee has ever included them, it's an easy fix)
- They FINALLY didn't paint the top of the door windows yellow! I don't know why they ever did that with SS-49/74, I've had to scrape yellow paint off the top of the windows 3 times now!

Finally, I really want to ask Sam Smith about the shade of yellow plastic used - the lighting plays a part in it, but it looks closer to SS-49's bright yellow than SS-74's more accurate orange-yellow. We'll have to see!

In total, they definitely did more retooling with this figure than I was expecting. Alt mode, like I said earlier, is perfect, and bot mode I think accomplishes what it needs to. I'm super happy with it and can't wait to get it in-hand and painted up!
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133181)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on May 10th, 2022 @ 8:44pm CDT
RotorstormNZ wrote:
Till-all-R1 wrote:Oy vey, yet another Arcee so soon I mean how many is that within just the last few years? Is she one that needs to constantly be out on shelves year after year despite having a previous version still readily available?

Are you at all familiar with the names Optimus Prime and Megatron? ;)

Yeah but how long did we have to wait for the very first Arcee, and then how often was she released until recent years when she became more prominent?

Heck for a lot of years people didn't even know who she was and would ask "who?" whenever I mentioned her.
And lets be honestly real, she's not OP, Megs or BB to a great many people.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133183)
Posted by Rtron on May 10th, 2022 @ 9:17pm CDT
Love seeing people excited about figures they were expecting for a long time. EvasionModeBumblebee, you just cleared up for me a question I had for years: What the heck those new black wing parts on DOTM Bumblebee were! I never realized it was the car's spoiler.

As for Arcee's notoriety, that will probably be quickly solved by Rise of the Beasts. Bumblebee wasn't that big a character before the movies either.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133189)
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2022 @ 2:37am CDT
My only real issue with Arcee is the lack of gray on the front of the car and the red area on her belly. Otherwise I'm looking forward to adding her to my T30 Arcee mold collection.

Emerje
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133200)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 11th, 2022 @ 4:05am CDT
I'd be getting that new Arcee for sure.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133203)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 11th, 2022 @ 7:42am CDT
I know that a lot of people seem to hate on Earthrise Arcee, but I have one and for me, it’s fine. No reason for me to purchase this one.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133204)
Posted by DeathReviews on May 11th, 2022 @ 8:32am CDT
Man - they just can't seem to do a decent Deluxe sized Arcee, can they? I'd like an Arcee that's somewhere between Masterpiece and Deluxe. Something big enough that we can get some decent quality out of it, without the flimsy cheapness that the Deluxes all seem to have. But not TOO big, complicated or expensive. So far, none of the Arcee figures of recent manufacture have accomplished this. Maybe they should step up to Voyager.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133212)
Posted by optimeow on May 11th, 2022 @ 10:27am CDT
My T30 turned yellowish. Great to get a better replacement!
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133223)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on May 11th, 2022 @ 12:14pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Man - they just can't seem to do a decent Deluxe sized Arcee, can they? I'd like an Arcee that's somewhere between Masterpiece and Deluxe. Something big enough that we can get some decent quality out of it, without the flimsy cheapness that the Deluxes all seem to have. But not TOO big, complicated or expensive. So far, none of the Arcee figures of recent manufacture have accomplished this. Maybe they should step up to Voyager.

I think it's due to trying to mimic the very slender female form that the creators saddled her with early on, I mean in a real world aspect I doubt a female robot would need to look that way. That's part of the reason I like the newest Elita-1, they don't try to make it overly feminine and the parts look like they are from an actual alt mode. It's just a hint of a feminine bot. Of course if they were a real thing in the universe I would tend to think there wouldn't even be need for different genders for robots anyway being as they do not procreate the way organics do. So the very idea of it seems bit ridiculous scientifically. But they're trying to sell toys to humans who identify with genders and representation so in that sense is why they probably felt the need to go that route.

After all I don't know the sales data on how well the female bots sell or if they appeal to female consumers even, and that might have been the reason behind introducing them to gain more customers that just boys?

If they made a new Arcee similar to the new Elita-1 that's coming I would probably buy it and sell the ER version simply because I think it looks better in terms of form and function.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133233)
Posted by Tuned Agent on May 11th, 2022 @ 1:18pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Man - they just can't seem to do a decent Deluxe sized Arcee, can they? I'd like an Arcee that's somewhere between Masterpiece and Deluxe. Something big enough that we can get some decent quality out of it, without the flimsy cheapness that the Deluxes all seem to have. But not TOO big, complicated or expensive. So far, none of the Arcee figures of recent manufacture have accomplished this. Maybe they should step up to Voyager.

TBH a voyager Arcee wouldn't really be any different, since 90+% of the car would still have to end up as a backpack. It's not really a size/complexity problem, it's a design problem, one that nothing can really be done about.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133234)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 11th, 2022 @ 1:31pm CDT
Is the T30 Arcee any taller than the ER/Kingdom version?
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133261)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on May 11th, 2022 @ 7:20pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:Is the T30 Arcee any taller than the ER/Kingdom version?

Negligible, maybe 1/2 mm, if that for head height.

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Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133263)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 11th, 2022 @ 7:33pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Is the T30 Arcee any taller than the ER/Kingdom version?

Negligible, maybe 1/2 mm, if that for head height.

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Thanks for sharing that!!

Imo, ER/Kingdom Arcee is too small compared to Kup & Hot Rod, & really every other ‘86 movie figure.
I was hoping the T30 mold was at least an inch taller…
That could’ve helped sway me to get this new version.
But as of right now, she’s a “maybe” at best.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133265)
Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2022 @ 8:07pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Is the T30 Arcee any taller than the ER/Kingdom version?

Negligible, maybe 1/2 mm, if that for head height.

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That pic reminds me of something I wanted to say. I read several comments, when this new Arcee was announced, that the Earthrise toy was still better in terms of accuracy when it comes to the backpack.
No, it is not. It looks nothing like the G1 character model. The toy is a failure from start to finish.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133277)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 11th, 2022 @ 11:06pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Is the T30 Arcee any taller than the ER/Kingdom version?

Negligible, maybe 1/2 mm, if that for head height.

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That pic reminds me of something I wanted to say. I read several comments, when this new Arcee was announced, that the Earthrise toy was still better in terms of accuracy when it comes to the backpack.
No, it is not. It looks nothing like the G1 character model. The toy is a failure from start to finish.


Earthrise/Kingdom Arcee is just terrible as a Transformers toy. I don't know what exactly went awry with the development of that figure, but what we got was woefully disappointing. The Legends Arcee was pretty close to perfect already, and I loved that it was still at least somewhat of a traditional transformer, despite making the vehicle mode a little less accurate to the cartoon model. This new one is welcome, but still frustrating. I love that they improved the sculpt of the robot mode where possible, adding a solution resulting in an almost completely accurate vehicle mode, but then stumbling on the small details, like painting the seats gray, the hands pink, the buttons on her waist red/pink, and the "grill" on the hood/chest gray. Nailing those would then create something that truly surpasses the Legends release completely in my eyes.

I wonder if we might find something like this later in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line. Mirage and Arcee are on the packaging art of the current "Studio Series Deluxe Class" assortment with Cliffjumper, Kup, and B-127. Maybe we'll get a slightly better painted release of this new Arcee retool in the future, along with an "Earthmode" repaint of the superior Siege Mirage mold (if not a remold of the Kingdom version with the ability to mount the shoulder cannon correctly restored). It may also be possible that these are not photos of the finalized production version, like we saw with Earthrise Optimus Prime in particular. But, as you would say, William, hope is just undiscovered disappointment. :lol:
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133492)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 13th, 2022 @ 8:49pm CDT
Sideways looks far better now properly transformed. I love that they gave him the game gun so he has something accessory wise. He looks good! We are slowly (slower than I'd like for sure) but surely closing the loops on some of the casts.

Bumblebee looks good! I am glad they did the main chest retooling, though I would have preferred a few more new pieces of tooling to properly complete the look. But I am glad we got as much as we did.

Arcee, um, OK sure? I am happy with my T30 and TR ones, so I think I am good there.

I also have been messing around with my new DotM Ratchet. It's not the greatest, but it did have some cool stuff in it. I still love the inner upper leg part that the rest of the thigh rotates around. there were some neat things done with him

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Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133496)
Posted by Emerje on May 13th, 2022 @ 9:05pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:I wonder if we might find something like this later in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line. Mirage and Arcee are on the packaging art of the current "Studio Series Deluxe Class" assortment with Cliffjumper, Kup, and B-127. Maybe we'll get a slightly better painted release of this new Arcee retool in the future, along with an "Earthmode" repaint of the superior Siege Mirage mold (if not a remold of the Kingdom version with the ability to mount the shoulder cannon correctly restored). It may also be possible that these are not photos of the finalized production version, like we saw with Earthrise Optimus Prime in particular. But, as you would say, William, hope is just undiscovered disappointment. :lol:

Hey, for all we know all three of these will be released in Buzzworthy outside Japan and that's why Hasbro hasn't bothered announcing them since they rarely talk about that line.

Emerje
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133498)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 13th, 2022 @ 9:12pm CDT
Never thought I'd see this, let alone twice together like this

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Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133504)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 13th, 2022 @ 11:21pm CDT
Looks like cameras are not a thing in this store.

Or it's one of those place in the USA.
Nah, not one of those.
In that later case, the guy would have just stuff the whole box in his bag along other things until reaching 990$ worth of stuff. Then just walk out proudly instead of dicking around like this.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133510)
Posted by Emerje on May 14th, 2022 @ 8:31am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Looks like cameras are not a thing in this store.

Or it's one of those place in the USA.
Nah, not one of those.
In that later case, the guy would have just stuff the whole box in his bag along other things until reaching 990$ worth of stuff. Then just walk out proudly instead of dicking around like this.

It would most definitely cost more to pay a security/loss prevention person to look over hours of video and maybe pin point when they were stolen and by who than the figures are worth.

Emerje
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133515)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 14th, 2022 @ 9:57am CDT
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Looks like cameras are not a thing in this store.

Or it's one of those place in the USA.
Nah, not one of those.
In that later case, the guy would have just stuff the whole box in his bag along other things until reaching 990$ worth of stuff. Then just walk out proudly instead of dicking around like this.

It would most definitely cost more to pay a security/loss prevention person to look over hours of video and maybe pin point when they were stolen and by who than the figures are worth.

Emerje


True.

But then, everything will be put behind lock and key, .Like some products already are.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133517)
Posted by william-james88 on May 14th, 2022 @ 10:51am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Never thought I'd see this, let alone twice together like this

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What I don't get is why go through the trouble of removing it from the packaging instead of just taking he box itself. Would definitely look less scrupulous. But I'll be honest, I can't get in the mindset of thieves like this.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133571)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 15th, 2022 @ 12:31am CDT
Finished my work on SS Heli Drift!

This is such a cool figure. I've been a fan of SS Helikick, but there's an impressive amount of retooling to really make this Drift! I'm excited to see more AOE figures now!

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Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133586)
Posted by Emerje on May 15th, 2022 @ 8:34am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:True.

But then, everything will be put behind lock and key, .Like some products already are.

The next step is Hasbro removing the windows all classes all together as they've already done with other lines when the retailers complain about the losses.

william-james88 wrote:What I don't get is why go through the trouble of removing it from the packaging instead of just taking he box itself. Would definitely look less scrupulous. But I'll be honest, I can't get in the mindset of thieves like this.

I imagine it's easier to rip the tiny figure out of the box and slip it in a pocket than it is to try and conceal the whole box. Those plastic ties aren't exactly strong and the damage to the box shows how forceful they were being. In a Spector Creative video Scott mentioned that there sites out there that give tips on stealing and/or swapping figures which is almost as bad as the actual act.

Emerje
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133603)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 15th, 2022 @ 12:32pm CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Finished my work on SS Heli Drift!

This is such a cool figure. I've been a fan of SS Helikick, but there's an impressive amount of retooling to really make this Drift! I'm excited to see more AOE figures now!

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Very nice! He looks great!

I did really like Helicopter Drift. They really did a good job with that one, it made it seem like that was the intended use of the mold instead of Dropkick. I definitely like it more than Dropkick.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133611)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on May 15th, 2022 @ 2:07pm CDT
Cameras are there primarily as a deterrent but they also provide video evidence for higher Dollar theft, it's not actively used to "prevent" live theft and particularly on low Dollar it items under $20. Though it may have increased to $30 now days, IDK I've been out of the asset protection game for three years. It's just not financially worth to the individual stores it to monitor consistently due to costs associated with the whole process. It's far easier to combat theft with price increases or other forms of mitigation.

william-james88 wrote:What I don't get is why go through the trouble of removing it from the packaging instead of just taking he box itself. Would definitely look less scrupulous. But I'll be honest, I can't get in the mindset of thieves like this.

Likely because "they" believe the package has a security strip that will sound the alarm upon exit thus drawing attention, plus it's easier to fit the actual product in your pocket than the packaging. I've lost track of how many CD wrappers I've found in the restroom over the years because of this. lol

To those willing enough there is no prevention strong enough to deter them sans totally locking up the whole store. Which is why I once suggested everything be put in vending type machine where you would insert the Money to get the product, of course now days with online so prevalent I don't know why stores still continue to carry some of these high risk items.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133615)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 15th, 2022 @ 3:14pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Very nice! He looks great!

I did really like Helicopter Drift. They really did a good job with that one, it made it seem like that was the intended use of the mold instead of Dropkick. I definitely like it more than Dropkick.

Thank you very much!
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2133628)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 15th, 2022 @ 6:39pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Never thought I'd see this, let alone twice together like this

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What I don't get is why go through the trouble of removing it from the packaging instead of just taking he box itself. Would definitely look less scrupulous. But I'll be honest, I can't get in the mindset of thieves like this.


Facebook, tag "theft" and "Hasbro". That should get their attention quick.
Re: Full Reveal of Studio Series 86 Arcee, DOTM Bumblebee and ROTF Sideways (2134369)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 24th, 2022 @ 1:09pm CDT
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