Hasbro Q&As, due Nov 30th
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The staff will choose 3 questions to submit to Hasbro on Nov 30th. We are expecting our answers around Dec 14th.
In the interest of trying to get the best questions submitted, Seibertron.com staff and savvy community members will also be answering questions that we KNOW have already been answered.
We are aware that we have not heard back from Hasbro yet on the previous round of questionings and sincerely hope that miscommunication is sorted out shortly.
Hasbro has made it clear that they will not answer questions such as "Will you make this figure?" or anything related to their new animated series. Other than that, everything is fair game!
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Posted by The_Cybertronian_Emperor on November 23rd, 2009 @ 11:02pm CST
I only have one question ...
With third party companies like FansProject making add-on and accessory kits that are actually pretty good in quality, is Hasbro going to follow this trend and start making Transformers that the fans want, or are we going to get another series of single molds recolored 4 to 5 times?
Posted by Down_Shift on November 23rd, 2009 @ 11:20pm CST
What ever became of Transformers Universe Special Edition? We were rumored at one point to get an upgraded Cliffjumper, a red repaint of Mirage and a few other treats, but never heard anything after the release of Overkill and Drag Strip. Any chance we'll see something from this line or something like it with collectors packaging, exclusive figures, ect. in the future?
(just gonna toss my two cents in, but mail away Universe Omnibots, Red Cross Ratchet or Reflector would be an incredible treat to fans... especially Downshift )
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on November 23rd, 2009 @ 11:50pm CST
Down_Shift wrote:I got one that I always forget to ask.
What ever became of Transformers Universe Special Edition? We were rumored at one point to get an upgraded Cliffjumper, a red repaint of Mirage and a few other treats, but never heard anything after the release of Overkill and Drag Strip. Any chance we'll see something from this line or something like it with collectors packaging, exclusive figures, ect. in the future?
(just gonna toss my two cents in, but mail away Universe Omnibots, Red Cross Ratchet or Reflector would be an incredible treat to fans... especially Downshift )
Where have I heard that before I'll definitely vote up that question!
Also, on a side note, whatever happened to the answers to the last round of questions, and what questions did we even submit?
Posted by Blurrz on November 24th, 2009 @ 12:47am CST
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Also, on a side note, whatever happened to the answers to the last round of questions, and what questions did we even submit?
They're in the process of being processed.
Posted by leokearon on November 24th, 2009 @ 2:17am CST
Posted by Orthobotrex on November 24th, 2009 @ 4:03am CST
And with the recession ending soon, will we still suffer from repaints for new products instead of new molds of new figures?
Thanks!
Posted by Tigertrack on November 24th, 2009 @ 6:16am CST
The_Cybertronian_Emperor wrote:Wow, I'm the first one to comment? Oh, happy day.
I only have one question ...
With third party companies like FansProject making add-on and accessory kits that are actually pretty good in quality, is Hasbro going to follow this trend and start making Transformers that the fans want, or are we going to get another series of single molds recolored 4 to 5 times?
I think we have done the 3rd party questions before, as far as HASBRO giving fans what they want, well, we do get a lot of what we want...just not everything is what we want.
You can't blame a company for trying to make money (repaint is cheaper than whole new molds).
Posted by Down_Shift on November 24th, 2009 @ 8:38am CST
Orthobotrex wrote:I was just wondering who's in charge of quality control at your factories because I come across a lot of defects with some figures that are unforgivable and I think you would have a lot of happier customers if these were prevented from being shipped out in the first place?
And with the recession ending soon, will we still suffer from repaints for new products instead of new molds of new figures?
Thanks!
Staff here can answer that.
Quality Control of the figures is still up to standard. Are they your standard because Lockdowns hands don't fold all the way out? Hasbro wouldn't waste money when something as small as that was a product of the mold. Remember they're still for kids, and kids couldn't care less if the little things we as fans notices are there. QC in a factory refers to many other things like drop tests, paint test, razor sharp corners ect.
As for repaints, there will always be repaints. Tons of them. It's an easy way to maximize profit from any particular mold.
Posted by Counterpunch on November 24th, 2009 @ 9:55am CST
Carl wrote:What's the friggin point Meat-Man?
Posted by Tigertrack on November 24th, 2009 @ 10:05am CST
Counterpunch wrote:Carl wrote:What's the friggin point Meat-Man?
What? Is this helpful?
Posted by JRFitzpatrick7 on November 24th, 2009 @ 11:27am CST
tigertracks 24 wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Carl wrote:What's the friggin point Meat-Man?
What? Is this helpful?
aqua teen hunger force is very helpful. Always.
Star Wars has a fans choice section of it's legacy line, why not transformers? I understand sculpting an action figure is much easier than engineering a robot that changes into a (for the most part) seamless vehicle, but it doesn't always need to be a new mold, it could be repaints of existing molds, but repaints the fans choose to represent a character on a certain mold. For example with a little retooling on the face and weapon of animated shockwave, I think we can all see skorponok with the right paint scheme! It already has mandibles! The hands are close to pincers already!
Posted by Swiftknife24 on November 24th, 2009 @ 1:19pm CST
*Fingers fall off*
Anyway, I asked a seibertron head about this, but I want an answer direct from Hasbro itself about the Sideswipe and Sideways RPMs; why is it that the cars look nothing like their film counterparts? Sideswipe looks NOTHING like his Corvette Stingray and Sideways' Audi looks really peculiar.
It's really disappointing, because the Stingray is such an integral part of Sideswipe's character.
I know that Mattel somehow seems to have the right to produce the Corvette in their 'Hot Wheels' line, so will Hasbro (get the rights and) produce these two characters in RPM cars that resemble the film counterparts in the near future?
(Okay, maybe I can understand why the Audi looks 'off', but even the Deluxe Sideways looks like an Audi. And as far as I can see, there is NO excuse for the Corvette when you consider the Deluxe and Human Alliance Sideswipe figures...)
Posted by Tigertrack on November 24th, 2009 @ 1:35pm CST
Swiftknife24 wrote:Right *cracks knuckles*
*Fingers fall off*
Anyway, I asked a seibertron head about this, but I want an answer direct from Hasbro itself about the Sideswipe and Sideways RPMs; why is it that the cars look nothing like their film counterparts? Sideswipe looks NOTHING like his Corvette Stingray and Sideways' Audi looks really peculiar.
It's really disappointing, because the Stingray is such an integral part of Sideswipe's character.
I know that Mattel somehow seems to have the right to produce the Corvette in their 'Hot Wheels' line, so will Hasbro (get the rights and) produce these two characters in RPM cars that resemble the film counterparts in the near future?
(Okay, maybe I can understand why the Audi looks 'off', but even the Deluxe Sideways looks like an Audi. And as far as I can see, there is NO excuse for the Corvette when you consider the Deluxe and Human Alliance Sideswipe figures...)
Diecast car licensing is different than, robot conversion to car licensing toy.
Hot Wheels makes no similar product to the normal or larger sized robots that transform. They do however make a car of the size in which Hot Wheels also makes that. If the RPM transformed they could probably do it. Since it doesn't, Hasbro cannot.
Posted by Kibble on November 24th, 2009 @ 2:48pm CST
tigertracks 24 wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Carl wrote:What's the friggin point Meat-Man?
What? Is this helpful?
I don't even get it and I laughed...so I vote yes, it is helpful.
Posted by yellow Camaro on November 24th, 2009 @ 2:55pm CST
"How many people must sign an on-line petition to convince Hasbro to make a particular figure?"
This is because I would like to see HA Grindor w Alice (a huge Grindor, my forest battle needs it!!!) , but I think this way could be the way to ask for a couple of the most-wanted figures per year!
Posted by SnapTrap on November 24th, 2009 @ 3:40pm CST
Posted by Swiftknife24 on November 24th, 2009 @ 4:24pm CST
tigertracks 24 wrote:Swiftknife24 wrote:Right *cracks knuckles*
*Fingers fall off*
Anyway, I asked a seibertron head about this, but I want an answer direct from Hasbro itself about the Sideswipe and Sideways RPMs; why is it that the cars look nothing like their film counterparts? Sideswipe looks NOTHING like his Corvette Stingray and Sideways' Audi looks really peculiar.
It's really disappointing, because the Stingray is such an integral part of Sideswipe's character.
I know that Mattel somehow seems to have the right to produce the Corvette in their 'Hot Wheels' line, so will Hasbro (get the rights and) produce these two characters in RPM cars that resemble the film counterparts in the near future?
(Okay, maybe I can understand why the Audi looks 'off', but even the Deluxe Sideways looks like an Audi. And as far as I can see, there is NO excuse for the Corvette when you consider the Deluxe and Human Alliance Sideswipe figures...)
Diecast car licensing is different than, robot conversion to car licensing toy.
Hot Wheels makes no similar product to the normal or larger sized robots that transform. They do however make a car of the size in which Hot Wheels also makes that. If the RPM transformed they could probably do it. Since it doesn't, Hasbro cannot.
Okay, fair enough; I'll reinstate, which is now my primary, question; will Hasbro be obtaining the license to produce a Corvette (screen-accurate Sideswipe) RPM anytime in the future?
Posted by autobot-jolt on November 24th, 2009 @ 4:57pm CST
1) Are there any more plans for the Universe and Animated toylines past Hardehead, Powerglide, Skyfall, Arcee, Rodimus Electrostaic Soundwave, etc.?
2) Will the Constructicon Scrapper and Flareup/Elita-1 be out soon? (I don't know if I can ask this one; I tried to word as best as I can, it's ok if I can't ask it, my first question is the important one)
Posted by Orthobotrex on November 24th, 2009 @ 5:41pm CST
Down_Shift wrote:Orthobotrex wrote:I was just wondering who's in charge of quality control at your factories because I come across a lot of defects with some figures that are unforgivable and I think you would have a lot of happier customers if these were prevented from being shipped out in the first place?
And with the recession ending soon, will we still suffer from repaints for new products instead of new molds of new figures?
Thanks!
Staff here can answer that.
Quality Control of the figures is still up to standard. Are they your standard because Lockdowns hands don't fold all the way out? Hasbro wouldn't waste money when something as small as that was a product of the mold. Remember they're still for kids, and kids couldn't care less if the little things we as fans notices are there. QC in a factory refers to many other things like drop tests, paint test, razor sharp corners ect.
As for repaints, there will always be repaints. Tons of them. It's an easy way to maximize profit from any particular mold.
Well then, fair enough. In that case...it will still take a lot of getting used to.
Posted by Tigertrack on November 24th, 2009 @ 7:27pm CST
autobot-jolt wrote:Only two questions here:
1) Are there any more plans for the Universe and Animated toylines past Hardehead, Powerglide, Skyfall, Arcee, Rodimus Electrostaic Soundwave, etc.?
2) Will the Constructicon Scrapper and Flareup/Elita-1 be out soon? (I don't know if I can ask this one; I tried to word as best as I can, it's ok if I can't ask it, my first question is the important one)
#1) Yes, they are just not being specific with us yet.
#2) We were already told that there will not be a Scrapper made. As for the Elita-1 mold, since we have seen no previews of it, it looks like it will be a summer to late 2010 piece.
Posted by Zeedust on November 24th, 2009 @ 8:07pm CST
SnapTrap wrote:Will Transformers Animated Season 3 be out soon? What about a boxed set of all three seasons?
This. But I'd phrase it as "Are there any plans to relese the third season of Transformers: Animated on DVD?"
Posted by Mkall on November 24th, 2009 @ 9:25pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Rodimus on November 26th, 2009 @ 9:29am CST
Mkall wrote:During the Investor's Podcast, Hasbro mentioned its theme; The Hunt for the Decepticons. Can hasbro please elaborate on the meaning of this phrase, and perhaps shed some light on what it means for future figures/toylines?
This.
Also, if Arcee and Cybertronian Mode Rathcet are Toys R Us exclusives, what are the rest?
Posted by psj333 on November 26th, 2009 @ 5:54pm CST
2. On the package of the Animated Rodimus action figure, his last name was actually his former rank name, Minor. Does this means that he was once a drillmaster just like Sentinel was before they were both being promoted to Primes?
3. When Ratchet and Ironhide made their debut G1, Ratchet was actually quite young; whereas Ironhide was quite old. However, when they returned in Animated, why Hasbro had decided to switch their ages the other way around?
Posted by Mkall on November 26th, 2009 @ 6:37pm CST
Posted by Down_Shift on November 27th, 2009 @ 12:52am CST
Mkall wrote:During the Investor's Podcast, Hasbro mentioned its theme; The Hunt for the Decepticons. Can hasbro please elaborate on the meaning of this phrase, and perhaps shed some light on what it means for future figures/toylines?
Hunt For the Decepticons is the mail away offer in N.E.S.T. packaged figures like the Soundwave/BB two pack, Evac, or Mindwipe, to name a few.
I've got a good one me'thinks.
What does Hasbro look for in an animation studio? What do they compare it to? Do they consider how well the Marvel DVD/Blu-Rays do, or how well G.I. Joe Resolute went over with fans when thinking about the next possible show or Direct To Video?
Why did Hasbro decide to NOT run commercials for Universe, but (just now) we are seeing commercials for Marvel Crossovers?
Posted by Mkall on November 30th, 2009 @ 5:04pm CST
Posted by Down_Shift on November 30th, 2009 @ 11:25pm CST
Mkall wrote:Questions have been submitted, and this time we will make sure we get an answer. In the meantime, feel free to ask other questions to Hasbro here. We don't know when the next Q&A session will be, but when we know, we'll let you know.
Wait. Where & when did we decide? I've been looking through staff forums and couldn't find jack all!
Posted by Mkall on December 1st, 2009 @ 12:27am CST
Down_Shift wrote:Mkall wrote:Questions have been submitted, and this time we will make sure we get an answer. In the meantime, feel free to ask other questions to Hasbro here. We don't know when the next Q&A session will be, but when we know, we'll let you know.
Wait. Where & when did we decide? I've been looking through staff forums and couldn't find jack all!
Check your email more often
Posted by starfish on December 1st, 2009 @ 7:20am CST
I notice that in recent years the Transformers franchise has entered into marketing deals with companies such as Burger King, Mountain Dew and M&Ms, just to name three. Last week in my local supermaket I also noticed a Transformers-branded chocolate advent calendar.
My question is this: all the deals mentioned above involve 'junk food'. Transformers is a very infuential brand, especially to small children. Shouldn't Hasbro have a socal and moral responsibilty to avoid corporate partnerships that encourage kids to eat sugary or fatty foods?
That is all.
Posted by stocky on December 2nd, 2009 @ 5:56pm CST
I think these would be an awesome addition to the Universe line, and still cross the lines to be compatible with the Human Alliance Movie figures...
Posted by Down_Shift on December 2nd, 2009 @ 9:53pm CST
Mkall wrote:Questions have been submitted, and this time we will make sure we get an answer. In the meantime, feel free to ask other questions to Hasbro here. We don't know when the next Q&A session will be, but when we know, we'll let you know.
f'n hotmail wouldn't let me in!
Posted by Kibble on December 4th, 2009 @ 12:43pm CST
stocky wrote:I know this is a couple of days late, but I'm hoping it will still get submitted. I wanted to know, with the popularity of the Human Alliance figures, are these types of figures being considered for continuation into the Universe line? We could get larger-scale, better-articulated classic figures, on par with the Alternators figures, but they could come with and "interact" with characters from the G1 TV and comic series, such as Spike, Circuit Breaker, Chip Chase, Sparkplug, Dr. Arkeville, Raul (Tracks' little pal), etc.
I think these would be an awesome addition to the Universe line, and still cross the lines to be compatible with the Human Alliance Movie figures...
Do we really know the popularity of the HA line? I kinda get the impression they don't fly off the shelves... And while I'm all for anything on par with Alternators, feel free to leave the small, interactive "figures" out. IMO it takes away from the "real" figure as it causes the designers to have to force things and compromise.
Posted by Counterpunch on December 8th, 2009 @ 11:50am CST
What went wrong?
Posted by starfish on December 8th, 2009 @ 3:48pm CST
Kibble wrote:stocky wrote:I know this is a couple of days late, but I'm hoping it will still get submitted. I wanted to know, with the popularity of the Human Alliance figures, are these types of figures being considered for continuation into the Universe line? We could get larger-scale, better-articulated classic figures, on par with the Alternators figures, but they could come with and "interact" with characters from the G1 TV and comic series, such as Spike, Circuit Breaker, Chip Chase, Sparkplug, Dr. Arkeville, Raul (Tracks' little pal), etc.
I think these would be an awesome addition to the Universe line, and still cross the lines to be compatible with the Human Alliance Movie figures...
Do we really know the popularity of the HA line? I kinda get the impression they don't fly off the shelves... And while I'm all for anything on par with Alternators, feel free to leave the small, interactive "figures" out. IMO it takes away from the "real" figure as it causes the designers to have to force things and compromise.
On that subject, I was very interested to read some of the reviews of HA Bumblebee by customers on the webasite of Argos (a UK retailer). The thread was full of complaints by parents claiming that the transformation was too complex for their young children - indeed some of the adults themselves weren't able to figure it out. One dissatisfied customer claimed that the toy had never been out of car mode, as they were unable to fathom the instructions.
So whilst highly-detailed toys with intricate transformations do appeal to the older children and the hard-core collecter, there's evidence to suggest that children in a younger age bracket (i.e. the core demographic) are turned off by the more complex figures... and for the very same reasons that we adult collectors love them so much!
Posted by Mkall on December 13th, 2009 @ 12:58am CST
It is no secret that Hasbro uses simpler paint apps for the Universe figures than TomyTakara uses for its henkei line. How much more would the average deluxe figure cost if Hasbro kept the same detailed paint applications?
Posted by IceWilly on December 14th, 2009 @ 11:08am CST
What is the standard you hold for mass producing toys/molds that were previously convention exclusives, most notably Botcon? For some of the exclusives there are more than just repaints, (remolds, head tweaks) there would have to be unique tooling, and thus cost involved. Is it out of the question to think that these toys could ever see retail availability because it would be unfair to those who purchased them as an "exclusive"? The 6 Decepticon seekers are one of the big ones I am referring to.
Posted by Down_Shift on December 15th, 2009 @ 12:15am CST
IceWilly wrote:Ignore this if it hasn been asked, and it may go hand in hand with the inquiries about Classics 3.0.
What is the standard you hold for mass producing toys/molds that were previously convention exclusives, most notably Botcon? For some of the exclusives there are more than just repaints, (remolds, head tweaks) there would have to be unique tooling, and thus cost involved. Is it out of the question to think that these toys could ever see retail availability because it would be unfair to those who purchased them as an "exclusive"? The 6 Decepticon seekers are one of the big ones I am referring to.
No need to ignore the question when we can answer it for you!
In short, no, the exclusive remolds and repaints will never hit brick and mortar retail. This question has been asked in the past and is always answered in the same manner. "sorry, but no"
Posted by IceWilly on December 15th, 2009 @ 8:06am CST
Posted by Down_Shift on December 15th, 2009 @ 9:07pm CST
IceWilly wrote:Would you considering the Henkei seekers to be the same toy as the BotCon exclusives? or because of the different market collectors' only choice was to let them off the hook?
Dirge, Thrust, Thundercracker and Skywarp were store exclusives in Japan. So they would also fall under the same banner as the Botcon seekers.
Posted by Kibble on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:10pm CST
Posted by Down_Shift on December 16th, 2009 @ 10:35am CST
Kibble wrote:Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought I recall the answer to the seekers question being more up in the air, neither a yes or a definitive no, but that if they were ever to do them at retail they would certainly differ from the exclusives to keep their "exclusivity."
In a instance like this I look at ROTF Dirge. He's G1 enough to pass as a classics/universe/whateverisnext figure, but movie enough to stick in the ROTF line to avoid a shitstorm of complaints from rabid fanboys & girls. Even the face feels IDW ongoing to me.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 16th, 2009 @ 11:36am CST
Down_Shift wrote:IceWilly wrote:Ignore this if it hasn been asked, and it may go hand in hand with the inquiries about Classics 3.0.
What is the standard you hold for mass producing toys/molds that were previously convention exclusives, most notably Botcon? For some of the exclusives there are more than just repaints, (remolds, head tweaks) there would have to be unique tooling, and thus cost involved. Is it out of the question to think that these toys could ever see retail availability because it would be unfair to those who purchased them as an "exclusive"? The 6 Decepticon seekers are one of the big ones I am referring to.
No need to ignore the question when we can answer it for you!
In short, no, the exclusive remolds and repaints will never hit brick and mortar retail. This question has been asked in the past and is always answered in the same manner. "sorry, but no"
It wouldn't be possible anyway. Any head mold or other modification that's made exclusively for the convention is destroyed after the figures have been made.
Posted by Down_Shift on December 16th, 2009 @ 11:49am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
It wouldn't be possible anyway. Any head mold or other modification that's made exclusively for the convention is destroyed after the figures have been made.
Yes sir, how'd I forget about that? Good thing you're always lurking in the shadows JG
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 16th, 2009 @ 2:28pm CST
Down_Shift wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
It wouldn't be possible anyway. Any head mold or other modification that's made exclusively for the convention is destroyed after the figures have been made.
Yes sir, how'd I forget about that? Good thing you're always lurking in the shadows JG
That's what ninja bunnies are for.
Posted by JazZeke on December 24th, 2009 @ 1:48am CST
Anyway, for future reference:
Have you considered releasing Lio Convoy to the American market in the Universe line, perhaps labeled as a "Beast Era Optimus Prime?" Many fans have been wanting that mold for a while and eBay prices are ludicrous.
Is there someone in charge of coordinating the movieverse to make sure that the films never contradict the IDW comics revolving around them and vice versa?
(For that matter,) How did so much off-color humor, such as Devastator's testicles and the plethora of humping jokes, get sanctioned by Hasbro? For a movie partially meant to market toys to children, you're really shooting yourselves in the foot by allowing elements that would preempt parents from allowing their children to have seen Revenge of The Fallen.
Posted by bigevil801 on December 24th, 2009 @ 1:55pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 24th, 2009 @ 4:17pm CST
JazZeke wrote:Have you considered releasing Lio Convoy to the American market in the Universe line, perhaps labeled as a "Beast Era Optimus Prime?" Many fans have been wanting that mold for a while and eBay prices are ludicrous.
The now defunct 3H Productions has actually tried to get Hasbro to acquire the Lio Convoy mold for one of their BotCon exclusives, as a new body for Alpha Trion. It was actually featured (a 3D outline at least) in the Wreckers comics. However, Takara either lost sight of or refused to license the mold. The fallback was Beast Machines Snarl, but that never got past a hand-painted prototype.In short, the chances of Hasbro or TakaraTomy using the mold are fairly slim, especially now the opportunities have past, like Beast Wars Anniversary and Universe.
Another something I've realised: it may not pass Toy Safety Laws! The launchers that you can plug into the manes could act as projectiles themselves, and since they're an inch or so long, they present a choking hazard. That's the same reason Armada Thrust has the launchers permanently attached to his legs.
Posted by JazZeke on December 24th, 2009 @ 4:40pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:JazZeke wrote:Have you considered releasing Lio Convoy to the American market in the Universe line, perhaps labeled as a "Beast Era Optimus Prime?" Many fans have been wanting that mold for a while and eBay prices are ludicrous.
The now defunct 3H Productions has actually tried to get Hasbro to acquire the Lio Convoy mold for one of their BotCon exclusives, as a new body for Alpha Trion. It was actually featured (a 3D outline at least) in the Wreckers comics. However, Takara either lost sight of or refused to license the mold. The fallback was Beast Machines Snarl, but that never got past a hand-painted prototype.In short, the chances of Hasbro or TakaraTomy using the mold are fairly slim, especially now the opportunities have past, like Beast Wars Anniversary and Universe.
Another something I've realised: it may not pass Toy Safety Laws! The launchers that you can plug into the manes could act as projectiles themselves, and since they're an inch or so long, they present a choking hazard. That's the same reason Armada Thrust has the launchers permanently attached to his legs.
Huh, thanks for that bit of info. Guess one of these days I'll just have to bite the bullet and pay a pretty penny for him on eBay. I should have gotten him before the 07 movie came out and his price soared.
Posted by flymoreno on December 25th, 2009 @ 10:05am CST