Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered

Transformers News: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered

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Thanks to our monthly source for high-resolution Figure King Magazine scans Loopaza Mega Store on Facebook, we have the newest scans for issue 249, which features the Decepticons of Transformers: Siege, and Legends Big Powered! The new scans give us a great look at the new Siege Shockwave, a figure that has been the topic of many discussions since its reveal.

Interesting to note here is that Shockwave, even with his gun feet, is still around the same height as Megatron, meaning this Leader class Wave is definitely phoning in the size class with the bulk and armor pieces attached to himself. It is satisfying to see that Shockwave still bows to the scale rule set forward by the line, despite the questionable size class choice.

Big Powered is also shown off, though we don't get much more in the way of pictures than we already have.

Check out the scans below, and let us know what you think below and in the Siege thread and Legends thread!

Transformers News: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered

Transformers News: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered

Transformers News: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered
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Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990663)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on October 23rd, 2018 @ 9:40pm CDT
Huh... Looks like even with the shoes that Shockwave is shorter than Megatron... Huh.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990700)
Posted by SkyFire Prime on October 24th, 2018 @ 4:32am CDT
Is Shockwave supposed to be bigger than Megatron?

Everyone was complaining he was leader sized and too big, now they revealed he's a Voyager with Add-ons and the complaint is he's too small?

Looks fantastic to me thanks Hasbro!
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990703)
Posted by leokearon on October 24th, 2018 @ 5:51am CDT
SkyFire Prime wrote:Is Shockwave supposed to be bigger than Megatron?

Everyone was complaining he was leader sized and too big, now they revealed he's a Voyager with Add-ons and the complaint is he's too small?

Looks fantastic to me thanks Hasbro!


In most continuities, they are roughly the same size.

The problem for me is this proves WFC Shockwave is a ripoff, they are expecting people to pay Leader Class money for a Voyager.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990704)
Posted by Big Grim on October 24th, 2018 @ 6:33am CDT
Sky Tread is a must have.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990707)
Posted by Emerje on October 24th, 2018 @ 7:03am CDT
leokearon wrote:The problem for me is this proves WFC Shockwave is a ripoff, they are expecting people to pay Leader Class money for a Voyager.

I want that Shockwave in my hands right now (just a couple more months!) and I'll be more than happy to pay $50 for it.

Emerje
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990709)
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 24th, 2018 @ 7:07am CDT
What's going on with Shockwave's shoulder pad thingies? Look how hollow they are.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990713)
Posted by Emerje on October 24th, 2018 @ 7:22am CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:What's going on with Shockwave's shoulder pad thingies? Look how hollow they are.

It's so the extra arms can be moved freely from end to end depending on the configuration.

Emerje
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990721)
Posted by Randomhero on October 24th, 2018 @ 8:21am CDT
leokearon wrote:
SkyFire Prime wrote:Is Shockwave supposed to be bigger than Megatron?

Everyone was complaining he was leader sized and too big, now they revealed he's a Voyager with Add-ons and the complaint is he's too small?

Looks fantastic to me thanks Hasbro!


In most continuities, they are roughly the same size.

The problem for me is this proves WFC Shockwave is a ripoff, they are expecting people to pay Leader Class money for a Voyager.



Hasbro said they’re following the original scale guide pretty close and Shockwave is shorter than Megatron and Soundwave
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990725)
Posted by Randomhero on October 24th, 2018 @ 8:28am CDT
Emerje wrote:
leokearon wrote:The problem for me is this proves WFC Shockwave is a ripoff, they are expecting people to pay Leader Class money for a Voyager.

I want that Shockwave in my hands right now (just a couple more months!) and I'll be more than happy to pay $50 for it.

Emerje



I agree. I very much hate it people are throwing fits saying they won’t pay $50 for a voyager and he’s not. He’s leader, he’s got extra bits to bulk him up and that’s what this line leader class is. It’s not about height with this line it’s about their gimmick and honestly, they made a Shockwave that turns into his gun mode. The reason he’s a leader with all those extra parts is to make him a ship and hide that which I’m cool with.

Same people who refuse to pay $50 are also the same people who say they’re going to ignore the armor bits and leave them in the box. That’s theyre problem for ignoring what makes it a leader class not hasbros.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990733)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 24th, 2018 @ 9:00am CDT
A simpler way to think of this is, I would rather pay $30 for just the base figure that $50 for the figure as released. I think that's a valid criticism.

It's a great figure, I'm going to drop the $50, and I think the dual blaster boots at least will make for good add-on weapons. I'm not surprised that others are talking, though.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990734)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 24th, 2018 @ 9:18am CDT
Emerje wrote:
leokearon wrote:The problem for me is this proves WFC Shockwave is a ripoff, they are expecting people to pay Leader Class money for a Voyager.

I want that Shockwave in my hands right now (just a couple more months!) and I'll be more than happy to pay $50 for it.

Emerje



Thank you!!! :APPLAUSE: ;)^ :VEHI:
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990735)
Posted by Randomhero on October 24th, 2018 @ 9:27am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:A simpler way to think of this is, I would rather pay $30 for just the base figure that $50 for the figure as released. I think that's a valid criticism.

It's a great figure, I'm going to drop the $50, and I think the dual blaster boots at least will make for good add-on weapons. I'm not surprised that others are talking, though.



They probably wanted to but figured “no it looks too much like a gun we won’t be able to get away with that”
Hasbro will never confirm that. Just like they wouldn’t do that with sixshot. The whole point of this line is they’re trying to be as faithful as they can. Obviously megatron can’t be a gun upside down but with shockwave, you turn throw a bunch of junk on him and turn him upside down and say he’s a space ship. This entire line is fan service and I’m willing to bet they wanted him to be a straight voyager but people at hasbro said “no we won’t get that thing passed gun toy safety laws”

This is the best they could do to make a faithful Shockwave and I love it.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990839)
Posted by Emerje on October 24th, 2018 @ 4:08pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:A simpler way to think of this is, I would rather pay $30 for just the base figure that $50 for the figure as released. I think that's a valid criticism.

You're right, that is a valid criticism. Where I take exception is people saying we're being ripped off and the insinuation that people are fools for paying $50 for a "Voyager". It isn't a rip off, you're getting your money's worth and the extra parts are very appropriate to the character. What's with the lack of imagination? People act like he's been covered in a bunch of red monster parts. Where some people see a ripoff I see a lot of extra value. I probably wont configure him in the default layout, though, I prefer the alternate layout more.

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Emerje
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990841)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on October 24th, 2018 @ 4:17pm CDT
Counterpoint: What separates Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime, PotP Optimus Prime from Siege Shockwave even though they all use the same figure + trailer armor gimmick?
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990843)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 24th, 2018 @ 4:31pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Counterpoint: What separates Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime, PotP Optimus Prime from Siege Shockwave even though they all use the same figure + trailer armor gimmick?


I think the difference is in precedence. Ultra Magnus, Optimus Prime, and Ultra Magnus all have established alternate, smaller identities when they aren't either all "armored up" or "Primed" by the Matrix of Leadership. Shockwave was always just the base figure without the extra pieces tacked on. People who just want traditional Shockwave feel they have no use for the extra armor pieces, but will have to buy them anyway to get their ideal Shockwave. On the other hand, people complaining that Siege has too much G1 influence and should be more innovative should love the idea of a "powered up" version of Shockwave that they can customize with various additional parts.

A good counterpoint, though, to those that feel Shockwave's extra armor bits are "useless" and need to be relegated to the storage bin (or trash can), is that the entire line Deluxe through Leader class is engineered to be beefed up with various parts from the Deluxe Weaponizers. Think of Shockwave as coming with his own set of "Weaponizer" parts that can be mixed and matched on any other figure you want. Admittedly, they're obviously "Shockwave" themed parts, but they wouldn't look out of place on most of the Decepticon crew.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990844)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on October 24th, 2018 @ 4:38pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Counterpoint: What separates Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime, PotP Optimus Prime from Siege Shockwave even though they all use the same figure + trailer armor gimmick?


I think the difference is in precedence. Ultra Magnus, Optimus Prime, and Ultra Magnus all have established alternate, smaller identities when they aren't either all "armored up" or "Primed" by the Matrix of Leadership. Shockwave was always just the base figure without the extra pieces tacked on. People who just want traditional Shockwave feel they have no use for the extra armor pieces, but will have to buy them anyway to get their ideal Shockwave. On the other hand, people complaining that Siege has too much G1 influence and should be more innovative should love the idea of a "powered up" version of Shockwave that they can customize with various additional parts.

A good counterpoint, though, to those that feel Shockwave's extra armor bits are "useless" and need to be relegated to the storage bin (or trash can), is that the entire line Deluxe through Leader class is engineered to be beefed up with various parts from the Deluxe Weaponizers. Think of Shockwave as coming with his own set of "Weaponizer" parts that can be mixed and matched on any other figure you want. Admittedly, they're obviously "Shockwave" themed parts, but they wouldn't look out of place on most of the Decepticon crew.


I figured precedence was a factor. Would that still stand had Shockwave won that Prime poll (unlikely as it was)?
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990881)
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 24th, 2018 @ 7:03pm CDT
On a strictly personal note, I'm disappointed we don't have a Leader size Shockwave because I had all the other first year Decepticons in Leader size. Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp. Plus the Legends sized Rumble, Frenzy, Ravage, Laserbeak and Buzzsaw were properly scaled (they went inside Soundwave after all). Even the upcoming Deluxe sized Reflector would've scaled with them.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990980)
Posted by william-james88 on October 25th, 2018 @ 11:10am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Counterpoint: What separates Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime, PotP Optimus Prime from Siege Shockwave even though they all use the same figure + trailer armor gimmick?


I think the difference is in precedence. Ultra Magnus, Optimus Prime, and Ultra Magnus all have established alternate, smaller identities when they aren't either all "armored up" or "Primed" by the Matrix of Leadership.


I figured precedence was a factor. Would that still stand had Shockwave won that Prime poll (unlikely as it was)?


I disagree on precedence. Its more than that and more "in your face". Its how the product is presented to us and how we perceive value. You said it yourself, fans are buying Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime and Optimus Prime, all leader class/sized figures. They are not buying Orion Pax feat armour, small white prime feat armour or Hot rod feat armour. They are buying leader sized characters.

But with Shockwave, you are buying a voyager sized shockwave plus armour. What is presentd to you is a voyager sized transformer with a bunch of accessories. So its a very very different case than any of the previous leaders.

The best example this could be compared to is Sqweeks who is much smaller than any deluxe and comes with lots of accessories to make up for it (which ca either be used seperate or become a battle pack). And if we wonder why that went over well, its because this was a new character, a much lower price point and it did not seem random. There was order to it all.

And in reply to those saying the armour is included to make it look less like a gun, that is wrong since:
- The figure is still something on its own and will show so on the instructions
- the spaceship with bits doesnt look anyless of an upside dwn space gun than shockwave alone does
- the upside down not gun thing was first done with sixshot, anotehr elader figure who had no extra parts to "conceal" anything

Hasbro needed another bot for the leader price point but also wanted to stick to scale so they gave us a voyager sized shockwave with a bunch of accessories to customize the Decepticon mad scientist as we wish. Thats all there is to it.
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990982)
Posted by ToastBucket on October 25th, 2018 @ 11:17am CDT
Looks like shockwave has caught a case of "submarine mode syndrome" :D
Re: Hi-Res Scans of Figure King No. 249, with Transformers Siege Decepticons, Big Powered (1990998)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 25th, 2018 @ 11:53am CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:On a strictly personal note, I'm disappointed we don't have a Leader size Shockwave because I had all the other first year Decepticons in Leader size. Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp. Plus the Legends sized Rumble, Frenzy, Ravage, Laserbeak and Buzzsaw were properly scaled (they went inside Soundwave after all). Even the upcoming Deluxe sized Reflector would've scaled with them.

It's definitely not the same thing, but maybe the Cyberverse Ultra class Shockwave will fill that role?

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