IDW Publishing Revolution Reviews - The Other Titles, pt. 1

Why are they called mask if what they are wearing is more along the line of helmets?

william-james88 wrote:Why are they called mask if what they are wearing is more along the line of helmets?

Because,

Heroes
Extinguishing
Life's
Medical
Emergencies
Team

just didn't sound good....

Is that thing on the ROM cover just a xenomorph?

That thing on the ROM cover is just a xenomorph.

Micronauts dumped that big Micronus reveal on us, and it's cool. That, plus the TF57 stuff made for a nice Micronauts into into the wider world

I read the MASK one as was curious (was never a big fan but I had some of the toys and they were kinda neat and as I mentioned some time ago the Human Alliance Transformers reminded me a bit of them in having a lil driver to put inside) but I dunno, I was just left feeling a bit... uncomfortable with it. I'm not sure why.

I didn't really know what to think of MASK, still really don't. I like the concept but the story still feels funky

ViaiTunes we have our latest IDW Revolution update, this time in the form of the sneak peak of Revolution #3! This comic is expected to be out October 12 and features the Micronauts, and for those keeping track, the God of the minicons himself: Micronus Prime! Check it out below.

Before you dip into the preview for IDW's Revolution #3, take a look at the full opening sequence for the second issue of the cross-franchise event, coming out next week in print and digital: as Comics Alliance posts the first seven pages of Revolution #2, plus all of the covers that come with the issue! We will be reviewing this on Wednesday, too, but feel free to join the discussion in the Energon Pub before then!

Revolution #2 (of 5)
Cullen Bunn & John Barber (w) • Fico Ossio (a) • Tradd Moore (c)
ROM—A MURDERER?! That’s what OPTIMUS PRIME and the TRANSFORMERS think—and right or wrong, there’s only one outcome: all-out war! Meanwhile, G.I. JOE turns to the one person who can save the world from ultimate destruction—MILES MAYHEM!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

hurry up next week

Jazz liked that arm.

Kurona wrote:Jazz liked that arm.

*nods sagely*

I love how it specifies Jazz liked "that" left arm, like there are others and he just really liked that particular one.

And yet no one has mentioned ROM just flipping Optimus and embarrassing him like that?

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:And yet no one has mentioned ROM just flipping Optimus and embarrassing him like that?

It's basically the plot of the whole issue! *rolls eyes* *still sorta enjoyed it*

Microraptor wrote:I love how it specifies Jazz liked "that" left arm, like there are others and he just really liked that particular one.

It was his special left arm; there is no other like it!

Dr Va'al wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:And yet no one has mentioned ROM just flipping Optimus and embarrassing him like that?

It's basically the plot of the whole issue! *rolls eyes* *still sorta enjoyed it*

All things considered, it's probably a wise choice to establish ROM as a potential threat to Cybertronians. They both work on gobbledy-goop sci-fi magic, so there's no real dissonance there. He's a threat to them in the same way that a monkey which could punch with the strength of a buff adult humie would be threatening to us.

Dr Va'al wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:And yet no one has mentioned ROM just flipping Optimus and embarrassing him like that?

It's basically the plot of the whole issue! *rolls eyes* *still sorta enjoyed it*

I don't mind it. If it was Death's Head we'd all be saying it was the Best Thing Ever. Which it would be, yes?

ScottyP wrote:I don't mind it. If it was Death's Head we'd all be saying it was the Best Thing Ever. Which it would be, yes?

I miss that Freelance Peacekeeping Agent.

I guess its a good thing that Hasbro/IDW has control of ROM now over as opposed to Marvel. But a while back, when I was looking at concept art for the animated series Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. The "season 3" that never came about because of Jeph Loeb . ROM was going to be featured in at least one episode. This was back in 2013, imagine what that small cameo would have done to boost that characters popularity.

o.supreme wrote:I guess its a good thing that Hasbro/IDW has control of ROM now over as opposed to Marvel. But a while back, when I was looking at concept art for the animated series Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. The "season 3" that never came about because of Jeph Loeb . ROM was going to be featured in at least one episode. This was back in 2013, imagine what that small cameo would have done to boost that characters popularity.

That was essentially fanart one of the show's character designers made to show what he would have liked to see. Rom would have never shown up in season 3 because Marvel never owned him.

There is a review coming, but due to life outside of the site, it will be later than usual.
Apologies!

Dr Va'al wrote:There is a review coming, but due to life outside of the site, it will be later than usual.
Apologies!

Here's my review: out of

(This means it was also bad, in many of the same ways as #1 but slightly fewer.)

Synopsis
ROM—A MURDERER?! That’s what OPTIMUS PRIME and the TRANSFORMERS think—and right or wrong, there’s only one outcome: all-out war! Meanwhile, G.I. JOE turns to the one person who can save the world from ultimate destruction—MILES MAYHEM!



Story

If the first issue of Revolution - reviewed by Tigertrack here - showed where the ubersharedmashup universe crossover event would find its flaws, the second issue in the run is still not able to pick up the good bits for long enough to satisfy a regular reader of Transformers. Bear with me...



As Rom the SpaceKnight provides the catalyst for the event, and even though Micronauts is probably doing a better job at connecting the wider mythology so far, even with just one issue (see my review of the other titles involved here), the insistence on the 'everyone is the bad guy of someone else's story' is really not landing yet. Yes, the Dire Wraiths are creating confusion, and Miles Mayhem is clearly furthering his own goals, but still, something feels very much off.



Where John Barber and Cullen Bunn do have a knack for stories and dialogue - and we know the continuity skills of Barber are second to none, especially with the IDW Transformers-verse, so there is plenty to play around with for the both of them - unfortunately though, there just isn't enough space right now, and where they instead tend to shine is in the other titles that make up the event as a whole, at least at this point in the game.



With that in mind, some of the interactions, especially between human and non-human factions, feel stilted, sometimes even forced - notable example is the MASK introduction, too short, too contrived and underplaying a potentially meaty development, in concept and story; also, the opening dialogue with the Joe team, and the decimate incident - with the best part of the book only coming towards the very very end.

Art

I do not dislike Fico Ossio's work, in any way at all. The designs for humans and robots, robots in particular, are visually stimulating, intriguing, and a new direction which I approve of for something so flashy like a franchise crossover. They're bold. But therein lies a flaw: the emotive aspect of non-organics in particular suffer from the linework of the rest of the character. Arcee and Windblade, and to an extent Kup, particularly feel this.



The colours still fit that 'HEY YOU LOOK AT THIS BOOK AIN'T IT COOL' vibe that IDW has been relying on for the crossover, in its multiple covers and big previews across major entertainment news sites too, and Sebastian Cheng does very good things with the vibrancy chosen - though I can see how some might find it too 'light' in some scenes.



Regular Transformers veteran letter Tom B. Long has a heck of a job keeping the dialogue and sounds at bay - and that last word is actually a totally unintentional pun for the amount of explosive fontwork that we find in the book: the explosions and loudness are very much present all the way through. Commendable indeed that it is this clear!

As for the covers, there are so many variants offered, as is to be expected from such a wide-scale project, that I am not sure I can master up enough words to mention them all. Make sure you do look out for them though, as there are some true gems in there, from Christiansen and Guidi, to Easton and Baltazar, via toy and minimal variants (see thumbnail by James Biggie), there is bound to be something to appeal to everyone.


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

I will follow the event through to its end, but what I see so far is not entirely convincing as a way to get older fans of the Joe and Transformers franchises hooked for long enough to warrant the arrival of three new properties. Book-wise at least. Where Bunn and Barber do work well, still, is within the smaller titles that lead into this wider crossover, unfortunately.



That said, the building of the world around Revolution, both through reusing parts of the more cosmically inclined lore of the Transformers, or the making things align in the Microverse parts of the story. Visually, my issues are outlined above, but it is not a bad looking book, at all! And overall, we do have a slight improvement with the wider cast now fully present in the line-up for the event - here's hoping to the next three issues finally able to lift off the ground in the scale of what the premise has promised comics readers.




Bonus Content: A handy reference guide from Tigertrack, which still fully applies two issues in!

Who should try this?

Casual 80’s childhood guy or gal all grown up: Hell yeah! You’d probably get a kick out of this with Transformers, GI JOE, ROM, ACTION MAN and coming up… Micronauts, and MASK! My childhood hath been brought back alive again! If only VISIONARIES would make an appearance! Ore-13 won't mean anything to you, but you don't need it to.

IDW Transformers Familiars: You may be a bit more hesitant. 'Our guys' are a focus for sure, but we’re not quite sure how they will come out when this all shakes out, and there was a lot of awesome stuff to like going on before this. They are the elder statesman and most successful comics of the bunch, and readers are not interested in losing the awesome ground that we have gained over recent years. There seem to be inconsistencies with current comic continuity, but not so huge that it can't get cleaned up. AND... we do get this ORE-13 thing to finally seem to finally, finally, shake out in full, so there's that!

IDW GI JOE Familiars: You may just feel good that GI JOE is coming back, again, but are probably frustrated that GI JOE is coming back, yet again, seemingly rebooted, yet again (I’m not as good and up on my IDW GI JOE). I feel very badly for hardcore JOE fans. I really hope this helps to get them the great fiction that they deserve (and hopefully more of a toy line too).

OTHERS: Tons of action! Aliens, robots, human elite army operatives, and end of the planet Earth peril, plus some cool new sophisticated TECHIE vehicles. Recognizable big name characters. Sounds like a try out to me! It reads like the big boys crossovers so far, with satisfactory art, I'd give it a go.

It's not been a bad story by any means so far, but there is just so much going on that it is hard to stop and get a feel for any of the characters. A major part of that problem is that this series is essentially serving as an introduction to many of them. I know we had the Micronauts and M.A.S.K. one-shots, but both of those were so brief that we barely got to dig into their large casts. We have seen enough of the Transformers cast and ROM for their interactions to feel right, but the M.A.S.K. appearance in this issue totally fell flat.

That said, I'm excited to see where things go once this crossover is finished. Miles Mayhem is shaping up to be an excellent villain, and I have really enjoyed Scarlett in this series. The Micronauts stuff looks pretty interesting as well, if we can ever get to know the characters.

MrBlack wrote:It's not been a bad story by any means so far, but there is just so much going on that it is hard to stop and get a feel for any of the characters. A major part of that problem is that this series is essentially serving as an introduction to many of them. I know we had the Micronauts and M.A.S.K. one-shots, but both of those were so brief that we barely got to dig into their large casts. We have seen enough of the Transformers cast and ROM for their interactions to feel right, but the M.A.S.K. appearance in this issue totally fell flat.

Pretty much, yes. Too much going on, too much trying to show what things are to new people by ignoring the well-established lore of the books preceding this, and just making it all a 'these are your comics now, read us'. Which is, as I said, a shame!

That said, I'm excited to see where things go once this crossover is finished. Miles Mayhem is shaping up to be an excellent villain, and I have really enjoyed Scarlett in this series. The Micronauts stuff looks pretty interesting as well, if we can ever get to know the characters.

The Micronauts series, now on issue 6, is actually really fun! It's where Bunn is shining in terms of making likeable cheese work for the title, and we get some excellent Baron Karza characterisation - which we don't see in Revolution, but most definitely will as of next issue.

As for Mayhem - so far he does nothing for me, but I'm willing to give him a chance.

Well, as I've always considered myself Seibertron's #1 M.A.S.K. fan, I gotta say IDW has completely failed with them so far.

I understand the need for some change and updates to a 30 year old franchise, but what they've done is so radically different that I don't think you can really call it M.A.S.K.

The only part that really pays true to the heart of the original (so far) is Miles. He feels right. Maybe Vanessa too, but everything else is falling flat.

Ironhidensh wrote:Well, as I've always considered myself Seibertron's #1 M.A.S.K. fan, I gotta say IDW has completely failed with them so far.

I understand the need for some change and updates to a 30 year old franchise, but what they've done is so radically different that I don't think you can really call it M.A.S.K.

The only part that really pays true to the heart of the original (so far) is Miles. He feels right. Maybe Vanessa too, but everything else is falling flat.

Have you read the one-shot too?

Dr Va'al wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Well, as I've always considered myself Seibertron's #1 M.A.S.K. fan, I gotta say IDW has completely failed with them so far.

I understand the need for some change and updates to a 30 year old franchise, but what they've done is so radically different that I don't think you can really call it M.A.S.K.

The only part that really pays true to the heart of the original (so far) is Miles. He feels right. Maybe Vanessa too, but everything else is falling flat.

Have you read the one-shot too?

Yes. That is what most of my opinion is based on.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Well, as I've always considered myself Seibertron's #1 M.A.S.K. fan, I gotta say IDW has completely failed with them so far.

I understand the need for some change and updates to a 30 year old franchise, but what they've done is so radically different that I don't think you can really call it M.A.S.K.

The only part that really pays true to the heart of the original (so far) is Miles. He feels right. Maybe Vanessa too, but everything else is falling flat.

Have you read the one-shot too?

Yes. That is what most of my opinion is based on.

Yep, gotcha - just wanted to know if there was a difference after both appearances in the comics. But clearly not.

I not planning to actually read any of these until comixology puts them on sale, so can someone give me one tiny plot detail based on the issue 2 preview? Does optimus prime or any of the transformers let ROM explain himself, or do they just fight with nothing being resolved? That's all I want to know.

ricemazter wrote:I not planning to actually read any of these until comixology puts them on sale, so can someone give me one tiny plot detail based on the issue 2 preview? Does optimus prime or any of the transformers let ROM explain himself, or do they just fight with nothing being resolved? That's all I want to know.

ROM and the Transformers that chased him only showed up in the first part of the story. They didn't do anything with it after like page 6 or 7, and that was just ROM getting knocked down and asked what he was doing

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

ricemazter wrote:I not planning to actually read any of these until comixology puts them on sale, so can someone give me one tiny plot detail based on the issue 2 preview? Does optimus prime or any of the transformers let ROM explain himself, or do they just fight with nothing being resolved? That's all I want to know.

ROM and the Transformers that chased him only showed up in the first part of the story. They didn't do anything with it after like page 6 or 7, and that was just ROM getting knocked down and asked what he was doing

Repeatedly. Back and forth.

Dr Va'al wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

ricemazter wrote:I not planning to actually read any of these until comixology puts them on sale, so can someone give me one tiny plot detail based on the issue 2 preview? Does optimus prime or any of the transformers let ROM explain himself, or do they just fight with nothing being resolved? That's all I want to know.

ROM and the Transformers that chased him only showed up in the first part of the story. They didn't do anything with it after like page 6 or 7, and that was just ROM getting knocked down and asked what he was doing

Repeatedly. Back and forth.

It was kinda embarrassing. Plus, Jazz really did like that arm

So, to expand on my earlier M.A.S.K. comment, the biggest thing that IDW has dropped the ball on, is making them just another branch of government/military. M.A.S.K. needs to be separate from that.

Part of the fun and enjoyment of the original cartoon, was watching these heroes up and leave their mundane day jobs, and race off to save the day. While some might say this is a silly and ridiculous thing to do, we are talking about a series that has an '80s Camaro that turns into a freaking fighter jet as one of its main drawing points. Realism was never necessary.

See, if M.A.S.K. is just a government branch, then they are no longer good guys fighting the good fight, they are just soldiers going where the government points them. We can hope that is toward the good fight, but sadly, we know that often it is not. M.A.S.K. needs to be run by a fabulously wealthy Trakker. White or black doesn't really matter, it just needs to be a secretive private entity. Doing what IDW is makes them no different than G.I. Joe. The book is still super young, and maybe they will head in the right direction down the road. We can only hope.

As a huge fan, I really want this franchise to make a comeback, and I'm going to cross my fingers and stick with it for the long haul, but my hopes are not high right now.

To say a positive, they are doing Miles Mayhem right. I'm actually very impressed with that part of this. It looks like Vanesa Warfield is heading in the right direction as well.

I guess time will tell.

Ironhidensh wrote:So, to expand on my earlier M.A.S.K. comment, the biggest thing that IDW has dropped the ball on, is making them just another branch of government/military. M.A.S.K. needs to be separate from that.

Part of the fun and enjoyment of the original cartoon, was watching these heroes up and leave their mundane day jobs, and race off to save the day. While some might say this is a silly and ridiculous thing to do, we are talking about a series that has an '80s Camaro that turns into a freaking fighter jet as one of its main drawing points. Realism was never necessary.

See, if M.A.S.K. is just a government branch, then they are no longer good guys fighting the good fight, they are just soldiers going where the government points them. We can hope that is toward the good fight, but sadly, we know that often it is not. M.A.S.K. needs to be run by a fabulously wealthy Trakker. White or black doesn't really matter, it just needs to be a secretive private entity. Doing what IDW is makes them no different than G.I. Joe. The book is still super young, and maybe they will head in the right direction down the road. We can only hope.

As a huge fan, I really want this franchise to make a comeback, and I'm going to cross my fingers and stick with it for the long haul, but my hopes are not high right now.

To say a positive, they are doing Miles Mayhem right. I'm actually very impressed with that part of this. It looks like Vanesa Warfield is heading in the right direction as well.

I guess time will tell.

As someone who's never had any experience with M.A.S.K.; to put it more simply, are you basically saying that IDW turned them from a superhero-esque unit to a government-controlled unit?

Kurona wrote:As someone who's never had any experience with M.A.S.K.; to put it more simply, are you basically saying that IDW turned them from a superhero-esque unit to a government-controlled unit?

It was kinda like Batman formed GI Joe and they could wear helmets that gave them superhero like powers. They were mechanics that sold gasoline fighting kooky villains that sold oil. Or something. But yeah, it has charm and character which so far hasn't been seen in the very little content for this newest iteration. Honestly, it feels like a very weird version of Suicide Squad so far.

The author is the same dude that did TF Deviations though so my hopes of it getting good don't really exist.

ScottyP wrote:

Kurona wrote:As someone who's never had any experience with M.A.S.K.; to put it more simply, are you basically saying that IDW turned them from a superhero-esque unit to a government-controlled unit?

It was kinda like Batman formed GI Joe and they could wear helmets that gave them superhero like powers. They were mechanics that sold gasoline fighting kooky villains that sold oil. Or something. But yeah, it has charm and character which so far hasn't been seen in the very little content for this newest iteration. Honestly, it feels like a very weird version of Suicide Squad so far.

The author is the same dude that did TF Deviations though so my hopes of it getting good don't really exist.

Oh, god, why did they keep him?

Revolution is atrocious.

I've reread the issues over and over again, and I just... argh. I hate to say this because IDW's Generation 1 continuity has so far been my favourite modern fiction. It hits all the right notes for me, it does something new and interesting and most the characters are compelling or relatable in some way (this mostly stands true for MTMTE, but ex-RiD has it's fair share of it as well).
Revolution is a confusing, whirling mess with a billion things happening at once yet nothing happening at all. All the conflict and misunderstanding is a forced contrivance because all the characters are dumbed down to make it happen; ROM should be explaining his side to the Autobots rather than randomly lashing out, the Autobots shouldn't be attacking him and labelling him a murderer right away without trying to understand him, G.I. Joe... christ, G.I. Joe are proving themselves to be the biggest lot of edgelords on the planet. I get where they're supposed to be coming from, but if IDW's intention is to get me into these characters and their comic, it's really not working because I expect some characters who are smarter and more forward-thinking than your average bayformer soldier. Everyone's so over-the-top angry and this is not something that would get me to read ANY of these comics. If this was my first experience with any of these franchises - and outside of Transformers, honestly, it really is - this is a huge turnoff. I'm really hoping the Thundercracker and Scavengers segments will be good, and Micronauts does give me some hope of a crossover done right; but otherwise I actually think this is worse than Combiner Wars so far. ... the comic, not the machinima; it's not that bad. But it's sure leaning on deplorable.

Oh yeah, and Scarlet's unfortunately reminding me of Arcee a LOT. A character that seems to be pushed purely for the reason of main-female-representative-of-the-franchise but they clearly don't know what to do with her so they just make her really angry and '''badass'''. I was pretty lenient on them doing this with Arcee since, well, most of her character's mess is a holdover from Furman's stuff - I sure as hell would have been stumped on what to do with her. But what's Scarlet's excuse? Was she this angry in the previous IDW GI Joe comics? Is this just her character in most GI Joe stuff? It's annoying. IDW have shown us they can have good female characters in Windblade and Nautica and Aileron and Chromia, so... it just aggrevates me even more when they default back to this "it's a strong female character because they're tough and angry!" nonsense. Maybe there's a lot more complexity to her, but first impressions count for a lot and these are not good first impressions.

uuuuuugggggghhhhhhhhh i hate being this angry in the morning. sorry. I just really can't get into this at all.

Actually? Nah. Know what? Let's get onto some POSITIVES here. It's a good day to hear some positives.

First off. Micronauts. My word, if there was ever a bright spot in a dark and gloomy day. Micronauts was a fantastic comic and absolutely an example of how to do the crossover right. To sum it up briefly:-
-It included entertaining action which made sense considering the context and backstory and showed us what these characters could do in a fight
-It introduced us to their characters naturally in a way that made them feel likeable and made me want to learn more about them
-The way they came to be in this crossover event and the big tie-in at the end spoiler spoiler felt like a natural progression of events for the group to go through
-Leading off of the next point somewhat; rather than being shoehorned into this new shared universe, it takes advantage of established elements and uses them to improve upon the story and overall mythos rather than being limited by said shared universe
-The villain is entertaining and cheesy yet you can already feel some sympathy for his goals
-It told me enough about the universe and characters yet held back enough to make me want to read the rest of the comics in this series
Like, my god. It's almost as if when you make a good story with likeable characters and a natural progression of events, you get people interested and get people to like this new comic. No joke, if Revolution was just a crossover of Micronauts and Transformers I would be all over it 10/10. Without giving any spoilers they tied it in to the established universe very cleverly while still giving us something new and fresh; I'm absolutely in love with it so far. And the one they're crossing over with is Windblade? This likeable crew of characters is meeting up with an equally likeable female character who's a diplomat, a peacemaker and who's entire character is based around talking and making peace with other long-lost civilisations? THAT sounds great! THAT sounds like something I wanna read! I am really hoping it's a team-up with some entertaining interactions rather than whatever forced battle the Autobots vs GI Joe turned out to be. The Micronauts part of the crossover is turning out to be incredible so far

And the other positive point... eeeh, it's less a positive point and more one of understanding. While I'm really hating Revolution so far - Micronauts aside; seriously, read Micronauts right now - it... doesn't feel like it's bad because no effort went into it. Like it was an executive decision that didn't understand what people wanted. Rather it feels like some sort of labour of love; some well-intentioned fans of these series who wanted to do something awesome and bring them all together in some ultimate universe of great team-ups and diversity and all around fun. But then they had no clue how to do it and hastily ended up writing something really generic and disappointing.
This is what it feels like to me. Like someone had a really great idea and was really excited to do it but fell short at executing it. I can't say I feel rage at the guys behind this; just... a lot of pity, honestly.

Maybe that sounds extremely sappy but I dunno. That's the feeling I get.
... but hey, at least Micronauts is great!

That nailed it. I can't agree more with the analysis of the good and bad parts of this crossover to date. The reach exceeds its grasp just a little too much.

What they are trying to cram into aproxamitly two months should have been spread out over a year or more.

This week's news from IDW Publishing, after their relatively busy week and weekend post-NYCC comes in the form of a full preview for the crossover main series Revolution, on its third issue out of five! Find out more about the Microverse, the Thirteen Primes, Ore-13, and MASK below, and head back here later this week for a review.

Revolution #3 (of 5)—SPOTLIGHT
Cullen Bunn & John Barber (w) • Fico Ossio (a) • Tradd Moore (c)
THEY CAME FROM MICROSPACE! What terror reaches through the tendrils of entropy into our universe—and why does ROM want to kill it? Meanwhile, M.A.S.K.’s MATT TRAKKER makes a startling discovery about the TRANSFORMERS—but will G.I. JOE’s SCARLETT believe him?
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
Variant cover by Ken Christiansen, part of a 13-part connected cover!

I'll admit I haven't read any of the issues yet, but from the previews and the general conversation it seems to me like this is a partial retread of the transformers arc right before all hail Optimus.

Transformers show up on Earth for some reason. Humans don't like it. Human military outfit (EDC there, G.I. Joe here) want to stop the transformers from doing whatever while a morally ambiguous human ostensibly allied with the military (Blackrock there, Mayhem here) wants to kidnap and take apart transformers for reasons. Said reasons involve making better weapons out of the transformers (combiner zombies and other devices there, not sure yet here). Certain humans in the military start realizing that transformers are people too, and that all the imprisonment and vivisection probably isn't the best plan (Marissa Faireborne there, M.A.S.K and maybe Scarlet here).

This time around, though, the Micronauts and ROM are running all over the place. Heck, Skywarp and Thundercracker decided to switch places, with one of them seeking asylum/help from the humans. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't read any of it, but that really seems to be where Revolution is going with all of this.

ricemazter wrote:I'll admit I haven't read any of the issues yet, but from the previews and the general conversation it seems to me like this is a partial retread of the transformers arc right before all hail Optimus.

Transformers show up on Earth for some reason. Humans don't like it. Human military outfit (EDC there, G.I. Joe here) want to stop the transformers from doing whatever while a morally ambiguous human ostensibly allied with the military (Blackrock there, Mayhem here) wants to kidnap and take apart transformers for reasons. Said reasons involve making better weapons out of the transformers (combiner zombies and other devices there, not sure yet here). Certain humans in the military start realizing that transformers are people too, and that all the imprisonment and vivisection probably isn't the best plan (Marissa Faireborne there, M.A.S.K and maybe Scarlet here).

This time around, though, the Micronauts and ROM are running all over the place. Heck, Skywarp and Thundercracker decided to switch places, with one of them seeking asylum/help from the humans. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't read any of it, but that really seems to be where Revolution is going with all of this.

It's... somewhat accurate, but Micronauts haven't been shown to take part yet and ROM essentially escalated animosity between human and transformer.
Also it's a lot less interesting, to be quite frank. Say what you will about ex-RiD from the end of CW to the start of TR (and I really wouldn't blame you for saying some very bad things about it), but it at least did have some interesting and complex things about it; some mysteries in the background and some build-up going on. Revolution is... almost insultingly basic. The humans don't like the aliens and are being manipulated into such a thing by a bad guy. The aliens get framed accidentally by another alien. Now all three of those do not like each other and want to kill each other because of a misunderstanding but will clearly all team up to defeat the real bad guy.
There's just no substance here. No depth. The period between CW and TR at least had something interesting going on even if it didn't interest you, but this is just... dull.

Yeah, I'm not feeling it at all. What I will say is that I like ROM so far from his own book. In Revolution, not so much. Not at all sure what to make of MASK though, and that's the one I had high hopes for. They ain't a band of do-gooders with awesome tech. They're a black ops military unit under Mayhem's command with awesome tech derived from Cybertronian mechabiology. (Which is the only good thing thus far. An explanation as to how they created the tech is a solid, sensible take on the matter.)

Micronauts is also pretty solid and ties in the whole Cybertronian thing into their background and mythos into an interesting and sensible way.

To me, Micronauts is the best of the franchises that has been re-hashed and brought into Revolution. They make much sense than the others and they have a good backstory tying them in.

Big Grim wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling it at all. What I will say is that I like ROM so far from his own book. In Revolution, not so much. Not at all sure what to make of MASK though, and that's the one I had high hopes for. They ain't a band of do-gooders with awesome tech. They're a black ops military unit under Mayhem's command with awesome tech derived from Cybertronian mechabiology. (Which is the only good thing thus far. An explanation as to how they created the tech is a solid, sensible take on the matter.)

"Cybertronian mechabiology".

So I guess this means that the MASK base mechanic can't do repairs on the vehicles because the parts aren't parts anymore... they're organs

1984forever wrote:

Big Grim wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling it at all. What I will say is that I like ROM so far from his own book. In Revolution, not so much. Not at all sure what to make of MASK though, and that's the one I had high hopes for. They ain't a band of do-gooders with awesome tech. They're a black ops military unit under Mayhem's command with awesome tech derived from Cybertronian mechabiology. (Which is the only good thing thus far. An explanation as to how they created the tech is a solid, sensible take on the matter.)

"Cybertronian mechabiology".

So I guess this means that the MASK base mechanic can't do repairs on the vehicles because the parts aren't parts anymore... they're organs

No, but they are based on Blitzwing's ability to switch between 2 modes. The comics already showed that in this universe you can build your own Transformer without necessarily require "biology" instead of "technology" with the Thrust/Ramjet clones being indicators of that.

Courtesy, as is customary by now, of iTunes, we have a three page preview of the upcoming Transformers one-shot that directly ties in with the IDW Revolution crossover event! You can check out the pages belowm and head back in a couple weeks for more.

THUNDERCRACKER AND BUSTER SAVE THE WORLD! A DECEPTICON who wants to be a screenwriter. A dog who wants to, I don’t know, eat stuff and chase squirrels or whatever dogs want to do. A White House under siege by DIRE WRAITHS. And the phone call that brings them all together.

Reasons why Thundercracker is my favorite seeker part.... some large number

Y'know, it's a real lesson in context when Marissa Faireborn is now the most sensible and logical person in the room.

Also, HOORAY for the return of our favorite part-time screenwriter!