IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone - Shane McCarthy Interview
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Later this month, writer Shane McCarthy returns to the samurai Transformer he created in "Drift: Empire of Stone," a four-issue mini-series from IDW Publishing with artist Guido Guidi. As a former Decepticon who found sanctuary with the Autobots, Drift is currently on a journey of self-discovery, attempting to discover his place in the Galaxy. Along with Autobot medic Ratchet, who is along for the ride to help clear Drift's name from a wrongful accusation, Drift will go through what McCarthy describes as "buddy cop meets space adventure."
The writer discussed re-visiting his samurai Transformer in the new IDW mini-series "Drift: Empire of Stone," revealing why Drift finds himself without alliances yet again, his feelings on Michael Bay's interpretation of the character in "Transformers: Age of Extinction" (and why it was "bordering on offensive") and more.
CBR News: Shane, what's the main story behind "Drift: Empire of Stone?"
Shane McCarthy: "Empire of Stone" takes place after Drift was booted off the Lost Light and sent on his way into the galaxy. It's about what he's been doing while he's been gone and how he's trying to be relevant and find his place in the galaxy now he's neither Autobot or Decepticon. Knowing Drift was wrongly accused, Ratchet comes looking for him to bring him back and the two become well and truly caught up in something from Drift's days as a Decepticon. While Drift is trying to save the galaxy, Ratchet is attempting to save Drift from himself. Buddy cop meets space adventure.
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Are you coordinating your story at all with IDW "Transformers" architects John Barber or James Roberts? Will it connect to either "Robots in Disguise" or "More than Meets the Eye?"
Nothing beyond having John as my editor, no. John let me know what happened prior to "Empire of Stone" and I read up on Drift's appearances but, outside of that John's left me completely alone. He's a great guy to work with. Whilst the mini series takes place after the events on the Lost Light, the mini doesn't connect with the major books.
What's it like working with artist Guido Guidi?
Working with Gui is always a treat. He's a great artist! As I was writing up "Empire of Stone" I was sending Guido ideas and letting him know what characters I'd be using that he'd need to design. As the scripts start coming through to him he sends through sketches and pages for John and I to look at. It's like Christmas every time. I really enjoy working with Guido a lot and was over the moon when I found out we'd be able to work together. He was the one guy I really wanted for this and it's fantastic to come together to work on the character we created.
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Posted by JazZeke on November 7th, 2014 @ 9:25am CST
He won't be the wacky hippie guy that's been seen in the comics recently
But that was miles more interesting--and fleshed out--than anything he did with his own character.
I think the "Transformer" films are terrible cinema with no story or plot to speak of.
Funny, that's what I think about "All Hail Megatron" sometimes.
Posted by SlyTF1 on November 7th, 2014 @ 10:45am CST
Posted by Dead Metal on November 7th, 2014 @ 3:53pm CST
Ignoring continuity and the rest of the comics, as usual, classic McCarthy.
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2014 @ 4:49pm CST
JazZeke wrote:He won't be the wacky hippie guy that's been seen in the comics recently
But that was miles more interesting--and fleshed out--than anything he did with his own character.I think the "Transformer" films are terrible cinema with no story or plot to speak of.
Funny, that's what I think about "All Hail Megatron" sometimes.
You want to put the entire sentence from the quote instead of stopping where nodoubt you quit reading? He's not ignoring Drifts character development from MTMTE, it's going to be there as background like McCarthy even says in the rest of the sentence, but he's going to try and developed him further into what he-as the creator- always imagined.
Posted by JazZeke on November 7th, 2014 @ 5:59pm CST
Randomhero wrote:JazZeke wrote:He won't be the wacky hippie guy that's been seen in the comics recently
But that was miles more interesting--and fleshed out--than anything he did with his own character.I think the "Transformer" films are terrible cinema with no story or plot to speak of.
Funny, that's what I think about "All Hail Megatron" sometimes.
You want to put the entire sentence from the quote instead of stopping where nodoubt you quit reading? He's not ignoring Drifts character development from MTMTE, it's going to be there as background like McCarthy even says in the rest of the sentence, but he's going to try and developed him further into what he-as the creator- always imagined.
Oh I read the whole interview, but I'm quoting the key sentence. What he-as a creator-always imagined is boring, two-dimensional, and sanctimonious compared to the more interesting "flaky spiritualist" Roberts fleshed him out into. Dead Metal hit the nail on the head:
Dead Metal wrote:So Drift will ignore all the character development he's had, plus instead of leaving the Lost Light as a fall guy (his own idea) he'll actually be kicked of and look for his lot in life, also Ratchet (the Lost Light's medic who's been on the ship before and after Drift left) will come looking for him.
Ignoring continuity and the rest of the comics, as usual, classic McCarthy.
Posted by Rampage on November 8th, 2014 @ 8:19am CST
Posted by JazZeke on November 8th, 2014 @ 10:42pm CST
Posted by Dead Metal on November 10th, 2014 @ 2:58pm CST
Looks like RID Megatron/ Car Robots Gigatron is going to be part of the idw G1 cannon.
The description of what happens is something along the lines of "Drift's past problems become his present problems and Ratchet is unhappy that he got caught up in all of it."
It also claims that it ties directly into MTMTE, so make of it what you will.
Posted by Va'al on November 10th, 2014 @ 4:32pm CST
Posted by Dead Metal on November 11th, 2014 @ 9:53am CST
Va'al wrote:We've seen that image in the latest batch of solicitations, I believe, and IDW keep saying that it does feed into MTMTE - but that McCarthy interview confuses that point, as he claims he isn't working with Roberts at all, but only Barber. Hmm.
Ah Ok, didn't know, I don't follow the solicitations anymore, I have a subscription for the tpbs.
Well, my guess is that idw commissioned this series to tie directly into MTMTE, but McCarthy doesn't bother to communicate with the other people working with the cannon because that's they way he works. And now that all the promo material has already been printed (the Previews catalog was likely being printed before actual work on the series actually started) it's too late for any changes made to the promotional material.
Anyway, this does not bode well, idw was winning me over with all the work they put into fixing the universe post Ongoing. But this along with McCarthy's interview really puts me off of continuing to read the tpbs. It just makes it look like they don't give a toss about their own continuity anymore and let random writers do what ever the hell they want now. I'll wait for reviews of this series, if there are continuity errors in it and the reviews point out that it connects badly to MTMTE, then, well, I'll use the TF tpb money instead to buy Sandman tpbs and get through that series faster than I currently am.
Posted by Va'al on November 25th, 2014 @ 3:01am CST
Transformers: Drift: Empire of Stone #1 (of 4)—SPOTLIGHT
Shane McCarthy (w) • Guido Guidi (a) • Alex Milne (c)
DRIFT RETURNS! Last year, TRANSFORMERS readers were shocked when DRIFT left the AUTOBOTS in disgrace… and now he’s alone, on a mission to clean up the darkest depths of the galaxy—until RATCHET shows up to try to bring him home!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
The creative team behind the classic—and best-selling—All Hail Megatron return to the character they introduced!
Ties directly in to the ongoing MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE series!
The fan-favorite character from the big screen returns to where he started—the comics page!
Artist’s Edition Variant cover by Guido Guidi!
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 25th, 2014 @ 7:10am CST
I'm not sure I'll get this; on one hand, I've all of the IDW stuff since "Death of Optimus Prime".on the other, it's about Drift.
Also, was he really a fan favorite? Not that I'm bashing anybody for liking him, I just thought he was more divisive of a character when he was introduced. Maybe I'm just remembering it wrongly...
Posted by Shuttershock on November 25th, 2014 @ 7:47am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Yay. Drift. Whoopy.
I'm not sure I'll get this; on one hand, I've all of the IDW stuff since "Death of Optimus Prime".on the other, it's about Drift.
Also, was he really a fan favorite? Not that I'm bashing anybody for liking him, I just thought he was more divisive of a character when he was introduced. Maybe I'm just remembering it wrongly...
He was divisive when he started, mainly because he was hyped out the ass for All Hail Megatron (but then, that book had a lot of other problems) and didn't really live up to anything beyond "super cool sword guy doing awesome things".
Roberts' tenure with the character has been more favorably received, mainly by actually giving him a character with flaws and ideals. Of course, now McCarthy (the AHM writer) is doing this book, so it's hard to say if we'll see the return of "Drift Do'Urden" or if he's learned something from his early work.
Posted by zodconvoy on November 25th, 2014 @ 7:53am CST
Shuttershock wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:Yay. Drift. Whoopy.
I'm not sure I'll get this; on one hand, I've all of the IDW stuff since "Death of Optimus Prime".on the other, it's about Drift.
Also, was he really a fan favorite? Not that I'm bashing anybody for liking him, I just thought he was more divisive of a character when he was introduced. Maybe I'm just remembering it wrongly...
He was divisive when he started, mainly because he was hyped out the ass for All Hail Megatron (but then, that book had a lot of other problems) and didn't really live up to anything beyond "super cool sword guy doing awesome things".
Roberts' tenure with the character has been more favorably received, mainly by actually giving him a character with flaws and ideals. Of course, now McCarthy (the AHM writer) is doing this book, so it's hard to say if we'll see the return of "Drift Do'Urden" or if he's learned something from his early work.
If TL/DR:
Drift sucked, got better, not sure if sucks again.
Posted by Optimizzy on November 25th, 2014 @ 8:11am CST
Posted by Optimizzy on November 25th, 2014 @ 8:11am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 25th, 2014 @ 9:15am CST
Optimizzy wrote:I'll read it BECAUSE of Roberts development...but I suspect that he will revert to "seethes with generic rage" levels of mediocrity pretty soon. I'm just not confident in McCarthy's writing.
Thi is how I feel. I have a smpall hope, however, that with Ratchet in it, they'll keep that interesting relationship going. And anyway, the solicitation for January showed RID Megatron will have a part. So maybe that'll be cool.
Posted by JazZeke on November 25th, 2014 @ 10:05am CST
zodconvoy wrote:If TL/DR:
Drift sucked, got better, not sure if sucks again.
This. Very much this.
Posted by Down_Shift on November 25th, 2014 @ 11:27am CST
Posted by Zeedust on November 25th, 2014 @ 5:52pm CST
Forget this. If I want to read about a sword-wielding Transformer who had the fanbase in an uproar, I'll wait for the Windblade ongoing. (Though that wait might kill me.)
Posted by JazZeke on November 25th, 2014 @ 5:58pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:Bleh. That's really what they're going with? That's seriously what someone thinks will hook readers and make Drift as popular as they try to pretend he is?
Forget this. If I want to read about a sword-wielding Transformer who had the fanbase in an uproar, I'll wait for the Windblade ongoing. (Though that wait might kill me.)
Yeah, our major gripe with Drift is he's all swordplay and no personality, so they show us... all swordplay and no characterization.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 25th, 2014 @ 6:54pm CST
JazZeke wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Bleh. That's really what they're going with? That's seriously what someone thinks will hook readers and make Drift as popular as they try to pretend he is?
Forget this. If I want to read about a sword-wielding Transformer who had the fanbase in an uproar, I'll wait for the Windblade ongoing. (Though that wait might kill me.)
Yeah, our major gripe with Drift is he's all swordplay and no personality, so they show us... all swordplay and no characterization.
What? Honor Badass McStabbin isn't enough personality/characterization? Since when?
Posted by Shuttershock on November 25th, 2014 @ 8:22pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:JazZeke wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Bleh. That's really what they're going with? That's seriously what someone thinks will hook readers and make Drift as popular as they try to pretend he is?
Forget this. If I want to read about a sword-wielding Transformer who had the fanbase in an uproar, I'll wait for the Windblade ongoing. (Though that wait might kill me.)
Yeah, our major gripe with Drift is he's all swordplay and no personality, so they show us... all swordplay and no characterization.
What? Honor Badass McStabbin isn't enough personality/characterization? Since when?
I dub thee "Drift DoUrden". Go forth and be an invincible smirking killing machine who's just so cool you guys.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 26th, 2014 @ 1:13am CST
Shuttershock wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:JazZeke wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Bleh. That's really what they're going with? That's seriously what someone thinks will hook readers and make Drift as popular as they try to pretend he is?
Forget this. If I want to read about a sword-wielding Transformer who had the fanbase in an uproar, I'll wait for the Windblade ongoing. (Though that wait might kill me.)
Yeah, our major gripe with Drift is he's all swordplay and no personality, so they show us... all swordplay and no characterization.
What? Honor Badass McStabbin isn't enough personality/characterization? Since when?
I dub thee "Drift DoUrden". Go forth and be an invincible smirking killing machine who's just so cool you guys.
Scene: Drift meditates on the floor.
Enter Office Aid #1: Beg pardon, Drift-San. <Bow>. Many Anime Characters have called; they want back their mojo.
Exit Office Aid #1 Stage Left.
Posted by Va'al on November 26th, 2014 @ 11:42am CST
(Spoiler free-ish)
Synopsis
DRIFT RETURNS! Last year, TRANSFORMERS readers were shocked when DRIFT left the AUTOBOTS in disgrace… and now he’s alone, on a mission to clean up the darkest depths of the galaxy—until RATCHET shows up to try to bring him home!
Story
Imagine: you're an ex Decepticon, who used to kill people for fun. Then you grew a conscience. So you traded guns for swords (that famous instrument of peace). Then you grew a bit too much of a conscience, and tried burying guilt beneath it and a veil of reborn spiritualism - and by ways of redemption, take the blame for something you didn't actually do, and are exiled. That's where we are with Drift, as Empire of Stone begins.
It's been some time since we saw him in action, other than flashbacks, and readers have been wary of the return of a character who has been fairly marmite-esque (that's British for divisive). What we find with this first issue back in Shane McCarthy's hands, is thankfully not a return to the character when he first introduced it, though some will complain it can feel that way in places.
Compared to other Transformers comics coming out this week, Empire of Stone is a lot slower in terms of narrative, though it does stand up quite well with the dialogue, and the chemistry between sulky Drift and grumpy Ratchet works nicely. And, as a set-up/catch-up issue, it does what it has to do without wandering too much around.
However, that's about it so far. It's not a bad comic, the story can go in a very interesting direction with the next three issues, and Empire of Stone is a catchy enough title for a popular enough character like Drift - but I can see how it might not be on everyone's immediate buying list as yet. Still.. read on.
Art
The art team is really where the book, much like ReGeneration One before it, will gain traction with potential readers. Guido Guidi's linework and Stephen Baskerville's inking are a great combination, and the action sequences are very well choreographed, with the sword element added to the fights gives space to Guidi's art to play around with the space of and around the panels.
Also back from the ReGen team is colourist JP Bove, doing an amazingly dusty and gritty (in the soil, dirt sense) job of the patina covering some otherwise quite flamboyant roboformers. I will never tire of looking at Guidi backgrounds filled in with Bove's technicolour magic, and there are some excellent sets in the issue.
Unfortunately, the review copy does not fully credit the letterer or editors for the issue, and has some general technical difficulties in the credit page layouts - nonetheless, The Unknown Letterer's work is, while very very subtle, pleasingly appropriate, keeping dialogue in place and a limited amount of background noise. As for the covers, we've seen all of them by now throughout the last couple of months, from the Alex Milne/Josh Perez one to the multiple Guidi variants (including the thumbnail one).
Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead
As a first issue, and as I mentioned above, Drift: Empire of Stone #1 is a harmless, easily paced, fairly well-dialogued and definitely good looking book, preparing a stage that so far has very little impact on the wider universe of the Transformers, but according to solicits may change everything - again.
It does little more than that, however, other than re-establishing the at times quite moving relationship between Ratchet and Drift, and hopefully diving into more of Drift's story from this point onwards, as well as the presence of the Cybertronians we do find in the issue. Needless to say, I remain hopeful.
Posted by Hans on November 26th, 2014 @ 2:48pm CST
Posted by jogunwarrior on November 26th, 2014 @ 2:48pm CST
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on November 26th, 2014 @ 3:41pm CST
Posted by Shuttershock on November 26th, 2014 @ 3:42pm CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Mayhem Sucks.
Soul of a poet, that one.
Posted by AudioKnightsTheatre on November 28th, 2014 @ 8:52am CST
Drift is a junkie. An addict.
Drift finds something to do, to believe in, and he adopts it wholeheartedly, to the point of distraction and, in many cases, to the point of harming himself. As a Decepticon, he thought his role was to punish and kill Autobots. He did his job with such overzealousness that even his superiors wanted him to tone down his brutality. But he couldn't stop, and eventually got "kicked out" for disobeying orders. He left and never looked back(til this issue).
On the Lost Light, he believed so much in the mission Rodimus had set forth(even the secret one concerning Overlord), he had such religious fanaticism to the cause and espoused so much positivity(because that's what he thought it meant to be an Autobot), and when he got kicked out of THAT, even with Ratchet's welcome, he had already moved on.
We've seen his drug addiction in the Shadowplay series. His addiction is obvious there. It seems he's left that behind too.
And now he's out on his own, defending the weak against bullies - this is his new and latest mission, and he has devoted himself whole-hog to this newest obsession. You'll notice Drift has a trigger reaction to most everything. He doesn't leave room for thinking or questions; he just ACTS. He has already decided his stance and doesn't let others talk him out of it. These are classic signs of an addict-to-burnout cycle which he's constantly in.
Drift drifts from place to place carrying his addictive, obsessive nature with him.
I, for one, enjoy playing his character. I can identify with backing a cause and that listless feeling when you feel lost. He's a joy to portray and I hope you guys will give our project a listen! Grab MTMTE issues 1-4 and listen along! www.TheAudioKnightsTheatre.com
Posted by Va'al on December 1st, 2014 @ 12:10pm CST
But this first issue did very little in explaining why he has returned to the loner style, if he is still following his faith (whatever that may be) or if he's had a crisis, and where that leads him. It does little of what you outline in the post, which is what I'd like to see in a story that follows a potentially poignant character with a deep storyline hiding beneath the fancy paintwork.
As I said in the review, I am hopeful for next month, but I'm not waiting with baited breath.
Posted by Dead Metal on December 1st, 2014 @ 3:28pm CST
But, let's just wait and see how the upcoming issues fare.
Posted by Va'al on December 4th, 2014 @ 5:17pm CST
ONCE A DECEPTICON! DRIFT’s past comes back to haunt him, as RATCHET tries to drag him back to the Lost Light. But alone on a far-off world, DRIFT’s honor demands he stand his ground!
Posted by K2vox on December 4th, 2014 @ 5:30pm CST
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on December 4th, 2014 @ 5:32pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 4th, 2014 @ 6:22pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on December 4th, 2014 @ 6:56pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I always knew there'd be a reason to hold on to that RID Megatron figure.
YUP!!!! Time to take him out of his RiD box(tub in storage) and put him on the classics/IDW shelf with pride.
I don't know why some people are asking for a new classics/generations figure. He's the same as the damn original toy. Go get him off eBay. He's cheap.
Posted by Randomhero on December 5th, 2014 @ 8:41am CST
Posted by jogunwarrior on December 5th, 2014 @ 9:26am CST
Also, I would love for Hasbro to retool Drift into Deadlock, he looks awesome like that.
Posted by Randomhero on December 5th, 2014 @ 10:07am CST
jogunwarrior wrote:I should really go track down a RID Megatron/Gigatron figure on eBay now.
Also, I would love for Hasbro to retool Drift into Deadlock, he looks awesome like that.
I'd even spend the money on a tfcc recolor of deadlock. I like Drift. Always have. I never joined the bandwagon of hate all because McCarthy, Hasbro and IDW over sold him but he was a big deal! New character in G1. That was a thing. He's never done anything wrong in the stories and I don't hold it against him for over commercializing him.
I liked Drift from the beginning and his figure was one if the coolest from 2010 generations to me. Need to get my hands on the SG Deadpool recolor
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:27pm CST
Oh and the best drift writer is James Roberts.
Posted by JazZeke on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:31pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair he wasn't the first new character in G1 and there's been far better additions like Rung and Tailgate. I'm cautious about this series, all hail Megatron beat that into me.
Oh and the best drift writer is James Roberts.
Rung > Drift times infinity
Posted by Va'al on December 16th, 2014 @ 2:35am CST
Transformers: Drift—Empire of Stone #2 (of 4)
Shane McCarthy (w) • Guido Guidi (a & c)
ONCE A DECEPTICON! DRIFT’s past comes back to haunt him, as RATCHET tries to drag him back to the Lost Light. But alone on a far-off world, DRIFT’s honor demands he stand his ground!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
The fan-favorite Transformers character returns!
Ties in directly with MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE!
Posted by Optimizzy on December 16th, 2014 @ 8:33am CST
Giga-whatsit-tron: "So Deadlock, is the war over" (important question)
Drift: "I told you I'm not Deadlock" (ignores)
Posted by Va'al on December 16th, 2014 @ 9:41am CST
Optimizzy wrote:Still no name given on Megatron/Gigatron in the comic.
Second panel on the first page, Turmoil calls him Gigatron!
Posted by jogunwarrior on December 16th, 2014 @ 9:57am CST
Posted by Optimizzy on December 16th, 2014 @ 9:59am CST
Va'al wrote:Optimizzy wrote:Still no name given on Megatron/Gigatron in the comic.
Second panel on the first page, Turmoil calls him Gigatron!
Ah! I missed that! Thank you.
Good, now it's official.
Posted by Samsonator on December 16th, 2014 @ 11:29am CST
Posted by Optimizzy on December 16th, 2014 @ 2:56pm CST
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on December 16th, 2014 @ 5:27pm CST