In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Optimal Optimus
Thursday, March 15th, 2018 2:20PM CDT
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About the robot mode, this is our very first seeing the right look of the robot mode aside from a render. Here, we actually see the shoulder extensions which help change the look from gorilla to robot (in both the shoulders and forearms). We also get a very good look at the matrix he comes with. We do wan to note that this is a factory model, as evident from the stamp on the chest. Though with the presence of stickers, this is closer to the finished product than anything we have seen so far.
Also, we have a bonus image, it is all the Prime Master pretender decoy armours all lined up. We are still unsure where the remaining four will come from.
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Posted by Ultra Markus on March 15th, 2018 @ 2:42pm CDT
And looks like we have 4 more prime masters left to reveal or are they going to short us on that too?
Posted by o.supreme on March 15th, 2018 @ 2:50pm CDT
Posted by Marcdachamp on March 15th, 2018 @ 2:58pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 15th, 2018 @ 3:28pm CDT
Posted by Toralite on March 15th, 2018 @ 4:13pm CDT
Posted by Galactic Prime on March 15th, 2018 @ 4:17pm CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on March 15th, 2018 @ 4:21pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 15th, 2018 @ 4:30pm CDT
I guess the figures okay for the younger generation/gimmick, not keen on the trailer homage stickers but if the flame gun effects come with it, that is a nice touch and maybe we will see more 'effect' type accessories like they do with Marvel Legends figures now? Easy pass for me.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 15th, 2018 @ 4:31pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:Oh the jokes to be made about those guns...
Still nowhere near the level of awkward as Wreck-Gar’s antena nipples.
Posted by Munkky on March 15th, 2018 @ 4:49pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:There is an exclusive Onyx Prime coming with Predaking (no prime armor though, just the PM itself) that was shown at NYTF last month. But fans are still hoping to get the remaining 4 with Pretender Shells/Prime Armor. I know a couple fans have speculated/mentioned getting them as a set, but I'd prefer individual releases for these just for the sake of consistency, but as we know, Hasbro is anything but consistent . Wardens team stated there are still some reveals left for PotP, despite it ending this year, ...what those are is anybody's guess, since everything in the leak of last July has now been officially promoted.
I'd say at this point, the easiest way to do it is to put the last few Prime Masters with the various exclusives that are coming out this year (Wreck-Gar, Repugnus and Counterpunch), like how a clear plastic Megatronus will be packed with Blast Off. Granted they probably won't have Pretender shells, but at least we'd get them.
Toralite wrote:when is he coming out????
June/July I'd imagine.
Posted by 1984forever on March 15th, 2018 @ 5:12pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 15th, 2018 @ 6:04pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 15th, 2018 @ 6:46pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on March 15th, 2018 @ 6:53pm CDT
1984forever wrote:Well, Primal is in a later wave so he’ll only be on a few store shelves, and the scalpers will snatch those up pretty quickly, which means that I’m safe from ever seeing this garish monstrosity in person.
You sure live up to your username.
As for Primal itself: personally I like it, even if in many aspects it's not on par with the original. That said, the fact that his Transmetal ape form exist near-complete and independently of him makes me think that he's something like a Pretender. He even combine with his shell, similar to Mega/Ultra pretenders. Which is an interesting presumably-accidental homage in design in a line that features the return of the Pretenders.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 15th, 2018 @ 7:16pm CDT
Skritz wrote:As for Primal itself: personally I like it, even if in many aspects it's not on par with the original. That said, the fact that his Transmetal ape form exist near-complete and independently of him makes me think that he's something like a Pretender. He even combine with his shell, similar to Mega/Ultra pretenders. Which is an interesting presumably-accidental homage in design in a line that features the return of the Pretenders.
In a way, Power of the Primes Optimal Optimus homages all three of Optimus Primal's forms on the original Beast Wars cartoon. You have his first season look with the deluxe Optimus Prime figure, though it doesn't turn into a gorilla. You have the second season look transmetal surfing gorilla homage when you put the gorilla mode Optimal Optimus on the Cybertronian transport mode Optimus Primal, though it of course doesn't look like his transmetal form in robot or beast mode. And finally, you of course have the third season Optimal Optimus look when Optimus primal protect the spark of Optimus Prime within his own body, though it is missing the ground-based vehicle mode. While I wouldn't call this figure perfect by any means, it covers a LOT of ground with Optimus Primal, fitting in all sorts of neat little gimmicks and callbacks, for a figure that won a fan poll less than a year ago. Hasbro and Takara put a lot of work into this, and I appreciate it.
Posted by Skritz on March 15th, 2018 @ 7:21pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Skritz wrote:As for Primal itself: personally I like it, even if in many aspects it's not on par with the original. That said, the fact that his Transmetal ape form exist near-complete and independently of him makes me think that he's something like a Pretender. He even combine with his shell, similar to Mega/Ultra pretenders. Which is an interesting presumably-accidental homage in design in a line that features the return of the Pretenders.
In a way, Power of the Primes Optimal Optimus homages all three of Optimus Primal's forms on the original Beast Wars cartoon. You have his first season look with the deluxe Optimus Prime figure, though it doesn't turn into a gorilla. You have the second season look transmetal surfing gorilla homage when you put the gorilla mode Optimal Optimus on the Cybertronian transport mode Optimus Primal, though it of course doesn't look like his transmetal form in robot or beast mode. And finally, you of course have the third season Optimal Optimus look when Optimus primal protect the spark of Optimus Prime within his own body, though it is missing the ground-based vehicle mode. While I wouldn't call this figure perfect by any means, it covers a LOT of ground with Optimus Primal, fitting in all sorts of neat little gimmicks and callbacks, for a figure that won a fan poll less than a year ago. Hasbro and Takara put a lot of work into this, and I appreciate it.
Same and I wonder if it wouldn't look nicer (if obviously not show accurate) if the gorilla and Optimal robot mode matched the grey, white, red and blue color scheme. Like a synthesis of all his designs with his best color scheme.
Sort of like an Optimal version of this. http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/4/4 ... h-Wars.jpg
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 15th, 2018 @ 7:28pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on March 15th, 2018 @ 7:36pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:This primal has, like, 10 modes, I swear, I keep losing track of how many ways they can be transformed and/or integrated
Let's see:
-Robot Mode/Space Turd Log Mode for deluxe Primal
-Robot Mode/Surfing Mode/Robot Mode/'Jet' Mode/Gorilla-with-guns mode for their combined form
That's technically kinda seven?
Posted by Acesmcgee on March 15th, 2018 @ 7:39pm CDT
I do have to say that in those photos, the colors aren't as terrible as I first thought.
Posted by Skritz on March 15th, 2018 @ 7:40pm CDT
Acesmcgee wrote:He is interesting for sure, but not sure if I'm going to pull the trigger on primal. If I do that I'll have to start pulling in other Beast Wars era figures and I only just started to really get somewhere on my G1 era figures.
I do have to say that in those photos, the colors aren't as terrible as I first thought.
They are fairly close to the original, if a bit darker and without the metallic aspect.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 15th, 2018 @ 8:14pm CDT
Guys, that Optimal Optimus is kinda like a MEGA PRETENDER!
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 15th, 2018 @ 8:18pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 15th, 2018 @ 8:23pm CDT
Maybe not a day-one buy. But definitely a possible purchase on sale. Now to wait for the video reviews....
Posted by Acesmcgee on March 15th, 2018 @ 8:25pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I think Primal looks rather dashing... and is that a new mold Matrix I see?
I figured it was to homage the shared spark concept from the show?
Posted by Emerje on March 15th, 2018 @ 8:35pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Optimal Optimus looks great, honestly. I don't get why so many people are upset that the cockpit/matrix chamber is blue transparent plastic instead of orange. The orange is toy accurate, but the blue is screen accurate, so it isn't completely out of left field or out of place.
Both the original toy and cartoon had orange cockpits with clear windows. The silver cockpit with blue window isn't accurate to anything.
With these new in hand images it's easier to see that most of the plastic is swirly metallic. Sure hope they're using the right formula, don't want these falling apart in 10-15 years like some original Optimal Optimusi did.
Emerje
Posted by budmaloney on March 15th, 2018 @ 8:39pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on March 15th, 2018 @ 8:48pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:That Optimal Optimus look like total GARBAGE! Seriously, this thing barely transform, and that Optimus Primal do absolutely nothing.
Guys, that Optimal Optimus is kinda like a MEGA PRETENDER!
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Yup. It's genius! But seriously, most Optimus Primal figures always had weak transformations because he went from one humanoid thing to another humanoid thing.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 15th, 2018 @ 8:58pm CDT
Skritz wrote:Yup. It's genius! But seriously, most Optimus Primal figures always had weak transformations because he went from one humanoid thing to another humanoid thing.
Not to go too off topic, my favorite Optimus Primal is one that is usually hated. The deluxe Beast Machine version. He's brilliant and that ape head is TERRIFYING.
However, all that clear plastic "dried up" over the years and is now pretty brittle. So I now fear to transform him. Especially after a hand just spontaneously shatterred. Luckily I had a replacement in my pile-o-scrap but still.
Will Clear Plastic Syndrome be the new GPS?
Posted by Skritz on March 15th, 2018 @ 9:00pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on March 15th, 2018 @ 9:15pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by BombshellDaBug on March 15th, 2018 @ 9:16pm CDT
Also, I snagged Hun-Gurrr, Rippersnapper, and Alchemist Prime recently. All of them are good, but Rippersnapper is the clear winner. Not as big of a fan of Hun-Gurrr as I thought I would be, but since he's just there to be a torso in my collection, no big deal.
Alchemist Prime is fun, but frankly I feel like the Titan Masters were way more fun than these Prime Masters are.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 15th, 2018 @ 9:44pm CDT
Indeed!Emerje wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Optimal Optimus looks great, honestly. I don't get why so many people are upset that the cockpit/matrix chamber is blue transparent plastic instead of orange. The orange is toy accurate, but the blue is screen accurate, so it isn't completely out of left field or out of place.
Both the original toy and cartoon had orange cockpits with clear windows. The silver cockpit with blue window isn't accurate to anything.
Posted by bodrock on March 15th, 2018 @ 10:18pm CDT
I'm still huntin' for SG Roddy, though.
I'm still not sure if I'll be getting Predaking, but I may need all dem Prime Masters! I still haven't seen Submarauder and Landmine, but my stores are regularly getting in the Legends figures.... I figure the Voyagers go pretty quickly, and have only seen wave 1 Leaders....no subsequent restock on wave2 at any Walmarts in the last two weeks.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 15th, 2018 @ 11:51pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Indeed!Emerje wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Optimal Optimus looks great, honestly. I don't get why so many people are upset that the cockpit/matrix chamber is blue transparent plastic instead of orange. The orange is toy accurate, but the blue is screen accurate, so it isn't completely out of left field or out of place.
Both the original toy and cartoon had orange cockpits with clear windows. The silver cockpit with blue window isn't accurate to anything.
Looks blue-tinted at the very least in those pics you posted, Sabr. The glowing blue spark chamber behind the cockpit in robot mode makes it look even more saturated with blue. Still looks right to my eye the way Hasbro and Takara did this Power of the Primes version, especially since it also houses the Matrix of Leadership with its iconic core glowing with blue light. They could have probably made the cockpit clear, which would still make that area decided blue because of the Matrix, but that wouldn't have helped the people who want the whole chest to look "orange" in robot mode.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 16th, 2018 @ 12:02am CDT
You're only looking at the canopy/window and ignoring the whole cockpit itself. That's what's colored wrong on the new toy. The canopy/window itself is just fine.Wolfman Jake wrote:Looks blue-tinted at the very least in those pics you posted, Sabr.
Posted by Emerje on March 16th, 2018 @ 3:08am CDT
Here's what the show render looked like without the extra light from the core and ambient lighting from the surroundings.
Maybe Hasbro was trying to imitate that light effect with the blue Matrix inside, but it's very blue and I really would have preferred they left it clear since they already went with toy accurate red eyes.
Emerje
Posted by Big Grim on March 16th, 2018 @ 7:32am CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on March 16th, 2018 @ 7:41am CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 16th, 2018 @ 7:56am CDT
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072M ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron07-20&
Edit: Nevermind, its out of stock for Amazon as the seller again.
Posted by o.supreme on March 16th, 2018 @ 9:36am CDT
Also this particular walmart had wave 1 PM's on clearance for $3.00
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 16th, 2018 @ 12:16pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:You're only looking at the canopy/window and ignoring the whole cockpit itself. That's what's colored wrong on the new toy. The canopy/window itself is just fine.Wolfman Jake wrote:Looks blue-tinted at the very least in those pics you posted, Sabr.
The orange interior for the cockpit would just have never worked with this figure, though. That part is formed from the Optimus Primal component, and putting that orange in there would clash with the rest of the color scheme of that individual figure. I think this is a pretty good compromise and a lot more understandable than some other weird plastic color and paint detail changes that Hasbro has made in the past just for "funsies."
Posted by Sabrblade on March 16th, 2018 @ 12:53pm CDT
Not the interior, the exterior. The part that forms his torso's collar.Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You're only looking at the canopy/window and ignoring the whole cockpit itself. That's what's colored wrong on the new toy. The canopy/window itself is just fine.Wolfman Jake wrote:Looks blue-tinted at the very least in those pics you posted, Sabr.
The orange interior for the cockpit would just have never worked with this figure, though.
The whole Optimus Primal component is already a weird mishmash of colors be being half solid gray in the front (plus stickers) and half multicolored black/white/red/gray/silver in the back. Adding orange to the front would have looked no worse than the mess of colors the thing already is.Wolfman Jake wrote:That part is formed from the Optimus Primal component, and putting that orange in there would clash with the rest of the color scheme of that individual figure.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 16th, 2018 @ 1:04pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Not the interior, the exterior. The part that forms his torso's collar.Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You're only looking at the canopy/window and ignoring the whole cockpit itself. That's what's colored wrong on the new toy. The canopy/window itself is just fine.Wolfman Jake wrote:Looks blue-tinted at the very least in those pics you posted, Sabr.
The orange interior for the cockpit would just have never worked with this figure, though.The whole Optimus Primal component is already a weird mishmash of colors be being half solid gray in the front (plus stickers) and half multicolored black/white/red/gray/silver in the back. Adding orange to the front would have looked no worse than the mess of colors the thing already is.Wolfman Jake wrote:That part is formed from the Optimus Primal component, and putting that orange in there would clash with the rest of the color scheme of that individual figure.
I strongly disagree. Gray goes with almost any other combination of colors, especially with black and white in the mix with some stray red and blue. Making the front of the transport mode orange would be very unpleasant to most peoples' eyes. If you want to mitigate the upper chest of the Optimal Optimus robot mode being gray instead of orange, you can just leave the "clavicle guns" deployed, which will hide most of that fact. I hope those neat flamethrower plastic pieces do come with the final figure.
I'm normally a stickler for color accuracy, whether that be original toy or screen appearance, but this is definitely a design decision/compromise that is perfectly logical to me, so it gets an easy pass. Something else, though, like not painting Power of the Primes Optimus Prime's fists blue or mistaching the reds on PotP Rodimus Prime is just a poor design oversight and irks me a lot more than this.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 16th, 2018 @ 1:09pm CDT
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on March 16th, 2018 @ 1:11pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Friendly reminder that that Optimus Primal is NOT supposed to be a Masterpiece. So, it's completely useless to waste so many posts and so many words debating some irrelevant spot that is the "wrong color".
Posted by Sabrblade on March 16th, 2018 @ 1:19pm CDT
It's supposed to be an eye-searing deco. It was the epitome of "90s Radical Extreme-ness"!Wolfman Jake wrote:Making the front of the transport mode orange would be very unpleasant to most peoples' eyes.
No it doesn't, it just add even more gray to the torso.Wolfman Jake wrote:If you want to mitigate the upper chest of the Optimal Optimus robot mode being gray instead of orange, you can just leave the "clavicle guns" deployed, which will hide most of that fact.
It's dulling down and uniforming what was supposed to be pure chaotic insanity of colorization in the first place.
It's like if one tried to have Evel Knievel teach a serious, no-nonsense class on traffic safety.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 16th, 2018 @ 1:19pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Friendly reminder that that Optimus Primal is NOT supposed to be a Masterpiece. So, it's completely useless to waste so many posts and so many words debating some irrelevant spot that is the "wrong color".
Almost as useless as complaining about an argument you have no stake in anyway?
These kinds of discussions about figure design choices are perfectly reasonable and on topic. Not every discussion is going to interest everyone. A lot of people feel strongly about the color of Optimal Optimus' chest. I too think it's a non-issue, but I'd rather talk about my reasoning than dismiss the other side out of hand as being "irrelevant."
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 16th, 2018 @ 1:24pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Friendly reminder that that Optimus Primal is NOT supposed to be a Masterpiece. So, it's completely useless to waste so many posts and so many words debating some irrelevant spot that is the "wrong color".
Almost as useless as complaining about an argument you have no stake in anyway?
These kinds of discussions about figure design choices are perfectly reasonable and on topic. Not every discussion is going to interest everyone. A lot of people feel strongly about the color of Optimal Optimus' chest. I too think it's a non-issue, but I'd rather talk about my reasoning than dismiss the other side out of hand as being "irrelevant."
Splitting hair to the atomic level is a is part of geek culture I guess. ¯\_ツ_/¯
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 16th, 2018 @ 1:38pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's supposed to be an eye-searing deco. It was the epitome of "90s Radical Extreme-ness"!Wolfman Jake wrote:Making the front of the transport mode orange would be very unpleasant to most peoples' eyes.No it doesn't, it just add even more gray to the torso.Wolfman Jake wrote:If you want to mitigate the upper chest of the Optimal Optimus robot mode being gray instead of orange, you can just leave the "clavicle guns" deployed, which will hide most of that fact.
It's dulling down and uniforming what was supposed to be pure chaotic insanity of colorization in the first place.
It's like if one tried to have Evel Knievel teach a serious, no-nonsense class on traffic safety.
I remembered it showing a lot more gray when he had his guns fully "extended" on the show, but I guess that's not the case. Still, I think having the guns out on the new toy helps the rest of the gray seem even less "out of place," as it now looks like a fully deployed weapon emplacement than just two "peek-a-boo" gun muzzles.
What happened to your "90's" defense before, Sabr? Yeah, I saw that before the edit.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Splitting hair to the atomic level is a is part of geek culture I guess. ¯\_ツ_/¯
Yep! It's never going to change either.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 16th, 2018 @ 1:43pm CDT
Huh? It's there. You quoted it.Wolfman Jake wrote:What happened to your "90's" defense before, Sabr? Yeah, I saw that before the edit.
I just elaborated on it with more specific words.