Japan to get Remolded Henkei Dirge and Thrust!

In b4 massive butthurt.


Also: w00t for Henkei Thrust and Dirge!

HA HA!!! WICKED.

I will have to see if I can find out if my ocntact will still be living in japan.

Wish I'd said that.

I might be interested in Dirge since the wings are more G1 acurate, not so sure about Thurst having his rotors on his rear wings.

I am sure the guns won't fit, but who cares... it'll be great to finally complete the set.

I think this is good. The wings are entirely different and it uses the regular seeker missiles. Where as TC was more or less the same as the Botcon toy.

I think with this one it’s not so bad, and a considerable re-purchase for those whom own the Botcon set.

I don't mind the wing thruster things location. its a decent compromise. As for Thundercracker, how much can one change him to make him "differnt" I think they did well enough on that. Just thrilled to have the opportunity to get my seekers afterall.

This is awesome... I'm braced for how butthurt some of the fandom will be.

I look forward to these.

Cool. I can't, wait.

Here's hoping Hasbro quits wussing out and goes for their own remolds of these two. If this pans out all I'll be missing is Thundercracker from my classics seeker set.

C'mon Hasbro!

I don't know if I'll purchase the Henkei versions of these two or not seeing the problems with TC. I get skeptical when it comes to buying foreign items I can't return.

As I mentioned in my earlier thread on these two, Hasbro have sorta/kinda hinted they might do the three Botcon seekers. So... yeah. You pays your money and you takes your chances.

Sledge wrote:As I mentioned in my earlier thread on these two, Hasbro have sorta/kinda hinted they might do the three Botcon seekers. So... yeah. You pays your money and you takes your chances.

That's the thing I don't like taking chances, I am a very cautious person and rarely risk financial ventures. Which is why I don't own the botcon seekers now. But I am a patient person so I can wait.

It's a gamble. On the one hand, the cost of these things is probably only likely to go up on the second hand market. On the other hand, next year Hasbro might say "F*** it" and put out TC, Dirge and Thrust at retail.

Assuming the molds haven't crumbled to powder by then.

Sledge wrote:Hasbro have sorta/kinda hinted they might do the three Botcon seekers

Source or it didn't happen

Sledge wrote:It's a gamble. On the one hand, the cost of these things is probably only likely to go up on the second hand market. On the other hand, next year Hasbro might say "F*** it" and put out TC, Dirge and Thrust at retail.

Assuming the molds haven't crumbled to powder by then.

Speaking on destroying the mold you have to figure they'll give Acid Storm his two cartoon wingmates. Maybe once they break this mold they can combine it with the broken bits of their other molds and make Classics Autobot Spike.

Go and read the Q&A thread, Craven.

Hasbro: Thank you for understanding what the big issue is with the exclusive sets - we need to ensure that we don't de-value those sets. I think that it is possible for Hasbro to release new versions of those characters as long as there are enough differences from the original Classics versions. However, we have been trying to get a wide variety of the Seekers out before going back to do 2nd versions. So we don't have any immediate plans for those 3 characters, but they are not totally "off limits". And to your Sunstorm question - Acid Storm was originally going to be Sunstorm, but we changed our mind. So now you know Sunstorm is on the short list of Seekers!

Thanks Sledge I knew I read that somewhere around here.

Sledge wrote:Go and read the Q&A thread, Craven.

Hasbro: Thank you for understanding what the big issue is with the exclusive sets - we need to ensure that we don't de-value those sets. I think that it is possible for Hasbro to release new versions of those characters as long as there are enough differences from the original Classics versions. However, we have been trying to get a wide variety of the Seekers out before going back to do 2nd versions. So we don't have any immediate plans for those 3 characters, but they are not totally "off limits". And to your Sunstorm question - Acid Storm was originally going to be Sunstorm, but we changed our mind. So now you know Sunstorm is on the short list of Seekers!

Cool, thanks - Seems to me, The Rainmakers have a better chance of seeing the light of day than SW & TC or The Coneheads.

...in the West, that is.

I'm guessing Hasbro saw people were willing to pay... I think my Henkei TC was something like $60-70? Anyhoo, I'm guessing they're seeing that people are willing to pay that and are thinking "Y'know, it's kinda dumb that we could throw these out at $10 and rake in the cash, but we're not because of some agreement last year." I would be.

to be honest, I would love to see the other rain makers first. Sunstorm would be wicked... and a teal blue would be nice too Even a lavender seeker..... love seeekers

Craven Knight wrote:

Sledge wrote:Go and read the Q&A thread, Craven.

Hasbro: Thank you for understanding what the big issue is with the exclusive sets - we need to ensure that we don't de-value those sets. I think that it is possible for Hasbro to release new versions of those characters as long as there are enough differences from the original Classics versions. However, we have been trying to get a wide variety of the Seekers out before going back to do 2nd versions. So we don't have any immediate plans for those 3 characters, but they are not totally "off limits". And to your Sunstorm question - Acid Storm was originally going to be Sunstorm, but we changed our mind. So now you know Sunstorm is on the short list of Seekers!

Cool, thanks - Seems to me, The Rainmakers have a better chance of seeing the light of day than SW & TC or The Coneheads.

...in the West, that is.

Well they're currently on their second version of Starscream so...

As someone who has the Games of Deception set, I would be upset if Dirge, Thrust, and TC ended up getting a mass retail release. Then again I've been able to enjoy all my seekers for almost two years now. Guess it's a wash.

Maybe it's a "we'll do one rainmaker for each original Seeker we do." So we get Acid Storm, then Starscream, then the other two rainmakers to balance out Thrust and Dirge.

I can dream.

Star_ling wrote:
Well they're currently on their second version of Starscream so...

but with insane fangirls like myself, of course they'll throw out more Starscreams....

Sledge wrote:Maybe it's a "we'll do one rainmaker for each original Seeker we do." So we get Acid Storm, then Starscream, then the other two rainmakers to balance out Thrust and Dirge.

I can dream.

Sunstorm and Hailstorm are possibilities for filler, but ALL of them would rock. I have no problem in buying mulitple seekers of the same mold. Just like my old Power Ranger days all over again. Gotta have every color

Do want! I may have my complete Seeker squadron yet!

Sunstar wrote:

Star_ling wrote:
Well they're currently on their second version of Starscream so...

but with insane fangirls like myself, of course they'll throw out more Starscreams....

Me too, he's the whole reason I collect transformers now. I have the Classics, will probably get the Henkei while BBTS has him on sale and will almost certainly get the 2.0 version. I still have several more of him to get too, Robot Masters, MP, Cybertron supreme, etc, etc, etc.

Star_ling wrote: Me too, he's the whole reason I collect transformers now. I have the Classics, will probably get the Henkei while BBTS has him on sale and will almost certainly get the 2.0 version. I still have several more of him to get too, Robot Masters, MP, Cybertron supreme, etc, etc, etc.

I lost count. I got close to 80 give or take of him. Love that old loony.

Well, looks like I'll be completing a Seeker set after all.

Can't say i'm surprised after sw and tc...

but i still have the rest of the botcon set cmon takto you wanna devalue that some?

all of this seeker repainting and neither company has given me my sunstorm or GoS yet...

Sunstar wrote:

Star_ling wrote: Me too, he's the whole reason I collect transformers now. I have the Classics, will probably get the Henkei while BBTS has him on sale and will almost certainly get the 2.0 version. I still have several more of him to get too, Robot Masters, MP, Cybertron supreme, etc, etc, etc.

I lost count. I got close to 80 give or take of him. Love that old loony.

He also helped start my Cobra Commander craze, or would have if not for the CC's being elusive and pricey whenever I look. My brother has more success with them.

Funny he could be his own collection.

Starscream is just that cool.

Sunstar wrote:Starscream is just that cool.

He is. And we kinda went off subject.

Well...I guess I made the right decision in aiming for Bugbite and biding my time

Heres hoping BBTS is as nice about preorders with these, as they were with Cracker and Warp...and that I can find Dreadwind for a price that doesn't include my first born child

I've gotta say I'm rooting for Sunstorm myself as well...though I'd like a New mold for him eventually...having the seekers as Always mold clones is something of a bad habit I'd like to see Hasbro shake off.

...and I'll completely defeat the purpose of my previous statement by saying I want a pine green skyraider for troop building

Exactly, as long as Bugbite is not remade in Japan, I'm happy.....

lol, acutally, I could care less this time,. The figs are different enough, they are pricey and limited in number as well.

Not to mention, I've been less than thrilled with Takara's take on the Henkei line. Too much chrome and too little QC for my tastes, especially considering the mass produced Henkai cost 3 times what the Universe line costs here and can't be exchanged as easily for a nicer unit.

Still, I think this is good for the hobby. More people get a chance to complete their seekers. Good for them.

I have no interest in bugbite, just the seekers. I do hope for more variation of the seeker theme...providing the mold holds up.

Sunstar wrote:to be honest, I would love to see the other rain makers first. Sunstorm would be wicked... and a teal blue would be nice too Even a lavender seeker..... love seeekers

So what are the official names of the "rainmakers?" If Sunstorm was one, and now Acid Storm is one, who was the third, Jetstorm?? Seems to me like that would be a very appropriate name...

Hasbro better get their shit together.

Don't get too excited peeps. Henkei SW and TC suck. The wings are uber loosed, the cannons don't fit and I can't get mine to even stand up without some form of support.

100+ bucks for crap, and if they're using old base molds, don't expect quality to be any better.

First Gen wrote:Don't get too excited peeps. Henkei SW and TC suck. The wings are uber loosed, the cannons don't fit and I can't get mine to even stand up without some form of support.

100+ bucks for crap, and if they're using old base molds, don't expect quality to be any better.

Actually my Henkei Skywarp has tighter joints then any of my classics Seekers. The only parts on my Henkei Thundercracker that are loose are the null rays and only in his shoulders. It's an easy fix if I weren't lazy. I'll probably get all three Henkei Coneheads now. (I passed on Ramjet but I'll pick him up with his wingmates) Besides spending $100-$150 on 2 figures versus paying $400-$600 for the Botcon versions is more doable to more people given the current economy.

They look pretty awesome from the silhouettes. I won't be getting them though, I don't collect the coneheads.

DeadPool69 wrote:and that I can find Dreadwind for a price that doesn't include my first born child

Ditto.

I go to sleep and miss the excitement of this announcement.

I'm honestly surprised, I didn't think Thrust and Dirge would be popular enough to get themselves a Henkei release.

Just goes to show you never can tell what will happen.

Sounds like you got really unlucky with yours First Gen. =(

Both my Henkei Skywarps were free of joint issues, and super tight. If I were the brains behind all this the first thing I'd do is get whatever was causing the Thundercracker launcher issue fixed, it seems like a logical step to me.

That is if it would even be an issue for whatever version of the mold they'd be using?

Also, Thundercracker is back up for sale on November 6th? I am tempted now to get them all... again. But then I may as well have not sold the Botcon set. Hrm.

Sudeenly people forget about the quality control that plagued the Skywarp and Thundercracker release.

The original price Botcon set was still a better deal (assuming Thrust and Dirge will be exclusives like Thundercracker and Skywarp). $60 x 4 = $240 while the Botcon set was about $250 and Target Skywarp would have added $20. You also got two other figures (including Dreadwind!), a nice box, and the whole Botcon experience.

Lapse Of Reason wrote:The original price Botcon set was still a better deal (assuming Thrust and Dirge will be exclusives like Thundercracker and Skywarp). $60 x 4 = $240 while the Botcon set was about $250 and Target Skywarp would have added $20. You also got two other figures (including Dreadwind!), a nice box, and the whole Botcon experience.

And if you got the bagged set, you got to sell that and walk away with free figures.

Hell yeah. Dirge is the only seeker I like. Done.

Whoooo!! REAL DIRGE WINGS!!! Thanks you Takara for doing this. I love my Boton Dirge paint apps, but man, he really needed his own set o wings. Will definitly be ordering these two. Now we just need some of these pics to be leaked.

So I guess I can store my Botcon set in the box now and display my Henkei's.

Lapse Of Reason wrote:The original price Botcon set was still a better deal (assuming Thrust and Dirge will be exclusives like Thundercracker and Skywarp). $60 x 4 = $240 while the Botcon set was about $250 and Target Skywarp would have added $20. You also got two other figures (including Dreadwind!), a nice box, and the whole Botcon experience.

if you look at it as botcon plus target ex. you have 3 extra figs-bugbite, dreadwind, ultra magnus.

Send them to the states...please Primus...