Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 6 'A War of Giants' Now Online

Yes, this is where things start to get really interesting!

ok..so intellectually I knew it was Tuesday, got into work...and somehow forgot to watch this first thing as I normally do. So...I know this is probably not going to be popular...but this is IMHO the best episode so far (not that the others have been great but...) we actually *almost* get to see a combiner battle (something we haven't seen since episode 1) . I would have liked to see a little more of the Dev/Vic Battle before Starscream started using the Enigma.

Starscream making the "Ultimate Combiner" out of combiners...is honestly something similar to what my 10 year old son thought up...and I probably would have thought was cool at that age as well (not with Starscream of course)...but he suggested a ..."combiner of combiners" (Optimus Maximus Body, and Computron, Defensor, Superion, and Victorion as "limbs") then I remembered the Autobot Scrum Combination (TF Wiki it)

The one thing that did bother me...I know we cant compare series...but in RiD Windblade could not pull up Optimus herself, as in one season 2 episode he was hanging off a cliff and needed the Minicons help to keep him from falling...

Yet in this series, she almost effortlessly carries both Prime & Megatron.


based on some questions from panels at earlier conventions here is my hope/prediction
Omega Supreme, Metroplex, or some other Titan will be raised to combat this "Ultimate Combiner"

Shame really, I did like this Starscream

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Shame really, I did like this Starscream

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william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Shame really, I did like this Starscream

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Just please keep up this Megatron

Why'd they have to go and ruin the only interesting character they had

You know whats crazy, I was wondering which Megatron this take was referencing and I couldnt come up with it. While Megs is my favourite, he rarely has any warmth or charm. In G1 he was just the leader, like an evil prime, but with terrible schemes. In the movies, he feels very distant, just a tyrant with not much for goals or personality aside from beig he bad guy and wanting Prime and everyone else dead (also very easily influenced by victoria secret models). In Animated, he is very grave and menacing. He is menacing in Prime as well but with a more strategic sense which makes him feel more cold than other versions, he really feels more like a general there. And in MTMT he is just solemn, there is no cheer there.

So why does this more fun Megatron personality fits so well for me? And then I got it. This guy has that more playful angle I remember from Beast Wars Megatron. Not as regal, of course, but far more flowery and animated than other versions of the character and closer to that one. I always likd that personality on megs and it always fit very well.

william-james88 wrote:You know whats crazy, I was wondering which Megatron this take was referencing and I couldnt come up with it. While Megs is my favourite, he rarely has any warmth or charm. In G1 he was just the leader, like an evil prime, but with terrible schemes. In the movies, he feels very distant, just a tyrant with not much for goals or personality aside from beig he bad guy and wanting Prime and everyone else dead (also very easily influenced by victoria secret models). In Animated, he is very grave and menacing. He is menacing in Prime as well but with a more strategic sense which makes him feel more cold than other versions, he really feels more like a general there. And in MTMT he is just solemn, there is no cheer there.

So why does this more fun Megatron personality fits so well for me? And then I got it. This guy has that more playful angle I remember from Beast Wars Megatron. Not as regal, of course, but far more flowery and animated than other versions of the character and closer to that one. I always likd that personality on megs and it always fit very well.

It's kind of IDW Megatron in the stormbringer era. Willing to ally with his enemies and look out for their well being for the breather good. By that I mean the few flashbacks we got of him in stormbringer during thunderwings first attack.

And you shall always remember this as the day you almost got a combiner war!

Meh. It was something to watch.

Reminds me of Marvel TF #50.

What absolute drivel that episode was. As someone else stated, Starscream's more mature character development (well, what little there is for any character in this awful show) was thrown out in favour of traditional, shallow, Saturday morning plot devices and character traits. If that was the point, then why even bother? They could just have used his normal character in the same role and just have him wink at the camera or smile every time he said something to convince the other members of the "council".

I love the blurb in the video description, "... enter Victorion!" Except it's not about her and she only really "enters" Starscream (fnar fnar).

Anyway, as usual, this isn't available in Japan, so viewers there will need to Google for online YouTube downloaders or streamers or suchlike to view it. Not that it's worth watching, mind.

Well. Finally build to MAYBE doing something right in episode 4 then balls it right up. 5 was terrible, but this ep just destroys any hope of a halfway decent show.

Awful. Just...awful.

wow...a lot of people are seriously ticked at the Starscream thing...C'mon now...you can't tell me you didn't see that coming? ... It wouldn't be Starscream otherwise...having a rational non-ego driven Starscream would be silly, almost as silly as Megatron being an Autobot ...oh wait... I was just kind of :"meh" on it earlier, but the more people reject it, because it returns Starscream to how he should be...the more I like it.

Definitely finding this incarnation of Megatron very amusing and fun to watch. Like william-james pointed out, he's definitely got the fun aspect of the character here from the Beast Wars version in a way even.

o.supreme wrote:wow...a lot of people are seriously ticked at the Starscream thing...C'mon now...you can't tell me you didn't see that coming? ... It wouldn't be Starscream otherwise...having a rational non-ego driven Starscream would be silly, almost as silly as Megatron being an Autobot ...oh wait... I was just kind of :"meh" on it earlier, but the more people reject it, because it returns Starscream to how he should be...the more I like it.

I don't think you understand why people didn't like it. A traditional Starscream is fine, and so is a more developed, progressed character. What this show did was take the matured IDW character and turn him into classic g1 cartoon Starscream at the last minute. There was no real journey from one state to the other. It's just as bad as if it was the opposite way round, with classics g1 SS giving up and joining the council in one, small minutes long episode.

Also, SS is part of the council to sate his need for power, especially power that isn't contested. Why would he throw that away?

ahahaha now there's the SS we all know and lurb.

primalxconvoy wrote:

o.supreme wrote:wow...a lot of people are seriously ticked at the Starscream thing...C'mon now...you can't tell me you didn't see that coming? ... It wouldn't be Starscream otherwise...having a rational non-ego driven Starscream would be silly, almost as silly as Megatron being an Autobot ...oh wait... I was just kind of :"meh" on it earlier, but the more people reject it, because it returns Starscream to how he should be...the more I like it.

I don't think you understand why people didn't like it. A traditional Starscream is fine, and so is a more developed, progressed character. What this show did was take the matured IDW character and turn him into classic g1 cartoon Starscream at the last minute. There was no real journey from one state to the other. It's just as bad as if it was the opposite way round, with classics g1 SS Iceblink giving up and joining the council in one, small minutes long episode.

Also, SS is part of the council to sate his need for power, especially power that isn't contested. Why would he throw that away?

Captured my thoughts exactly.

It's also extremely confusing why the other two couldn't take it. The Mistress of Flame had an explanation, okay, but... that doesn't make sense. Wasn't the artifact on her planet? Aren't they as a culture closer to the Primes in their religion and such?
Meanwhile Rodimus can't use it because... because... I dunno, he lost an arm? The Enigma's a bit of a dick to cripples, huh?

william-james88 wrote:You know whats crazy, I was wondering which Megatron this take was referencing and I couldnt come up with it. While Megs is my favourite, he rarely has any warmth or charm. In G1 he was just the leader, like an evil prime, but with terrible schemes. In the movies, he feels very distant, just a tyrant with not much for goals or personality aside from beig he bad guy and wanting Prime and everyone else dead (also very easily influenced by victoria secret models). In Animated, he is very grave and menacing. He is menacing in Prime as well but with a more strategic sense which makes him feel more cold than other versions, he really feels more like a general there. And in MTMT he is just solemn, there is no cheer there.

So why does this more fun Megatron personality fits so well for me? And then I got it. This guy has that more playful angle I remember from Beast Wars Megatron. Not as regal, of course, but far more flowery and animated than other versions of the character and closer to that one. I always likd that personality on megs and it always fit very well.

Tyrannacon wrote:Definitely finding this incarnation of Megatron very amusing and fun to watch. Like william-james pointed out, he's definitely got the fun aspect of the character here from the Beast Wars version in a way even.

I said this before, but it bears repeating. This Megatron is so fun because of how un-Megatron-like he is. While the BW Megatron comparison is probably the closest one could make between this Megatron and any other Megatron, BW Megatron wasn't quite as snarky, snide, and sarcastic as this Megatron is, which appear to be the best qualities of this Megatron. It's almost like someone took BW Megatron and combined him with Rattrap to make the personality of this Megatron.

But, to back up to the original point I wanted to repeat, this Megatron doesn't exactly seem to be channeling any previous Megatron, but does seem to be channeling another 1980s robot cartoon villain: Cy-Kill. This version of Megatron is every bit as hammy and snarky as Cy-Kill ever was (or at least, it sure seems like he's trying to be), and it's wonderful.

Sadly, there isn't a single clip on YouTube that shows a proper example of how fun Cy-Kill's personality was, so unless anyone here has access to the actual GoBots episodes, I got nothing but this claim to state my case with.

I wonder if Combiner Wars going to go all Underbase up in here lol.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You know whats crazy, I was wondering which Megatron this take was referencing and I couldnt come up with it. While Megs is my favourite, he rarely has any warmth or charm. In G1 he was just the leader, like an evil prime, but with terrible schemes. In the movies, he feels very distant, just a tyrant with not much for goals or personality aside from beig he bad guy and wanting Prime and everyone else dead (also very easily influenced by victoria secret models). In Animated, he is very grave and menacing. He is menacing in Prime as well but with a more strategic sense which makes him feel more cold than other versions, he really feels more like a general there. And in MTMT he is just solemn, there is no cheer there.

So why does this more fun Megatron personality fits so well for me? And then I got it. This guy has that more playful angle I remember from Beast Wars Megatron. Not as regal, of course, but far more flowery and animated than other versions of the character and closer to that one. I always likd that personality on megs and it always fit very well.

Tyrannacon wrote:Definitely finding this incarnation of Megatron very amusing and fun to watch. Like william-james pointed out, he's definitely got the fun aspect of the character here from the Beast Wars version in a way even.

I said this before, but it bears repeating. This Megatron is so fun because of how un-Megatron-like he is. While the BW Megatron comparison is probably the closest one could make between this Megatron and any other Megatron, BW Megatron wasn't quite as snarky, snide, and sarcastic as this Megatron is, which appear to be the best qualities of this Megatron. It's almost like someone took BW Megatron and combined him with Rattrap to make the personality of this Megatron.

But, to back up to the original point I wanted to repeat, this Megatron doesn't exactly seem to be channeling any previous Megatron, but does seem to be channeling another 1980s robot cartoon villain: Cy-Kill. This version of Megatron is every bit as hammy and snarky as Cy-Kill ever was (or at least, it sure seems like he's trying to be), and it's wonderful.

Sadly, there isn't a single clip on YouTube that shows a proper example of how fun Cy-Kill's personality was, so unless anyone here has access to the actual GoBots episodes, I got nothing but this claim to state my case with.

That noted, I do like this original take on the character. Not only because, well, it's an original take on the character and original takes are good; but because it's an original take that makes sense to be an original take. (new drinking game; how many times does she say 'original take') We've never seen Megatron quite in this position before. Not in a position where he has absolutely, totally lost the war and is out on his own - sure, we've seen him in IDW, but that was a completely different scenario following his decision to become an Autobot and already starting to regret what he'd done. This Megatron clearly has not gone through that development at all and has just started wandering around the place like some mad old coot. We don't exactly know what he's doing (beating up Constructicons in some randomass arena? What...?) but we can see how he's been lead up to this. He's been struck from his power but never quite lost that spark and lust for power; being on his own instead of having an army behind him obviously giving way to what he is now. I like it and to be honest it's easily the best thing to come out of CW since the original take on Starscream completely kicked the bucket.