Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Interviews: Amy Johnston / Maxima, Producer Eric Calderon
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CBM: How did you get involved with Combiner Wars?
Amy Johnston: "I got involved with Transformers: Combiner Wars through Bat in the Sun whom I had worked with previously on their show "Super Power Beatdown".
CBM: Were you a big Transformers fan growing up?
Johnston: "I have definitely been a Transformer's fan so when I found out about the role of Maxima I was super excited! How cool to have my own Transformer character! I love her!"
CBM: How did you find the right voice for Maximia?
Jonston: "Maxima was described to me as a strong female character who had a relationship wtih Windblade so I made sure to give her strength and passion yet retain a femininity about her."
The second is some further insight into the series with producer Eric Calderon, via ComicBook.com, discussing a number of aspects on the creation of the characters, their interactions and the story as a whole. Full piece here, and a selection below!
Is there a challenge that's inherent to doing something like this? When you look at web series, you have a lot of like "Okay, we just grew up this property that you like" and it's mostly played for laughs. Is there a challenge to doing this seriously and not feeling like another kind of web series that's trying to take a fun?
The great thing is, both Machinima and Hasbro, they have never used that word with me. They said "You are making a series." They always put it at a higher level, and the show is budgeted, and distributed in a very sophisticated way, that to me, is not like a webseries at all.
So I think about this as an adaptation, I just go "Hey, it's my job as a creator to make the best work I can" and I don't think about "Oh it's only for this category so let's have fun", I want to tell this combiner wars story, and I'm going to tell it in 40 minutes. That's almost a movie, so I really treat it like that. There's act breaks, there's a solid structure to the character development, there's resolution. That's what I'm worried about.
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Posted by Galactic Prime on August 14th, 2016 @ 4:17pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on August 14th, 2016 @ 4:18pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:Funny how neither mentioned what a shitty job they both did.
Generally interviews don't do that, no
Posted by BumbleDouche on August 14th, 2016 @ 5:47pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:Funny how neither mentioned what a shitty job they both did.
Posted by Deadput on August 14th, 2016 @ 6:10pm CDT
Cliffjumper in Prime lasted longer then her and had more character and that's saying something for his brief screentime.
Posted by UltraPrimal on August 14th, 2016 @ 6:47pm CDT
Posted by Braker on August 14th, 2016 @ 8:39pm CDT
Posted by hinomars19 on August 14th, 2016 @ 11:14pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:Funny how neither mentioned what a shitty job they both did.
Generally interviews don't do that, no
Which makes doing them in the first place oddly redundant.
Posted by Kurona on August 15th, 2016 @ 6:51am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2016 @ 8:38am CDT
hinomars19 wrote:Kurona wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:Funny how neither mentioned what a shitty job they both did.
Generally interviews don't do that, no
Which makes doing them in the first place oddly redundant.
The point of interviews surrounding a media projectthats being released is to promote the product and thats it. Like when a celebrity goes on a talk show, its to promote something. You wont learn about how bad they think a film they are promoting is. Did Ben Affleck ever say in an interview that Batman V Superman was terrible? No.
Posted by Xarmech on August 15th, 2016 @ 8:47am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 15th, 2016 @ 9:34am CDT
Not trying to be harsh but...
1.”Gahh…ahh” (getting smashed against a wall)
2. “What needs to be done!”
3. Guhhh…(dies)
How many people auditioned for this role?
How long did it take to record?
I'm sure in truth she is very talented, this was just not a really good opportunity to hear her skills as an actor.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 15th, 2016 @ 3:15pm CDT
The great thing is, both Machinima and Hasbro, they have never used that word with me. They said "You are making a series." They always put it at a higher level, and the show is budgeted, and distributed in a very sophisticated way, that to me, is not like a webseries at all.
"Distributed" in a very sophisticated way that is not like a webseries? Yeah, that's not this show. I think he's thinking of something else.
Posted by Galactic Prime on August 15th, 2016 @ 4:25pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:hinomars19 wrote:Kurona wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:Funny how neither mentioned what a shitty job they both did.
Generally interviews don't do that, no
Which makes doing them in the first place oddly redundant.
The point of interviews surrounding a media projectthats being released is to promote the product and thats it. Like when a celebrity goes on a talk show, its to promote something. You wont learn about how bad they think a film they are promoting is. Did Ben Affleck ever say in an interview that Batman V Superman was terrible? No.
I think the sarcasm might have been lost on you
I think we all know why they do these interviews.
My point was the job they did was shitty, regardless of the spin they try to put on it.
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 15th, 2016 @ 6:42pm CDT
I'm definitely trying to reserve my major judgement until I've seen the whole thing in entirety. I don't mind reading and talking about first impressions though.
Posted by Galactic Prime on August 16th, 2016 @ 7:04am CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:I don't think/feel her performance was the issue to me personally. I think the issue here is more how the character was used than how the actor portrayed the character and how she was performed though. Take the actress who did the line's for the Mistress of Flame character, I feel her performance was particularly wooden and no feeling in. Like the lines were just being read with nothing behind them, but then I wonder if it is simply just part of the character.
I'm definitely trying to reserve my major judgement until I've seen the whole thing in entirety. I don't mind reading and talking about first impressions though.
Your first mistake here is calling these people actresses, they aren't professionals. These people Machinima used are all Facebook losers with no Voice Talent or professional work.
Posted by Va'al on August 16th, 2016 @ 7:21am CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I don't think/feel her performance was the issue to me personally. I think the issue here is more how the character was used than how the actor portrayed the character and how she was performed though. Take the actress who did the line's for the Mistress of Flame character, I feel her performance was particularly wooden and no feeling in. Like the lines were just being read with nothing behind them, but then I wonder if it is simply just part of the character.
I'm definitely trying to reserve my major judgement until I've seen the whole thing in entirety. I don't mind reading and talking about first impressions though.
Your first mistake here is calling these people actresses, they aren't professionals. These people Machinima used are all Facebook losers with no Voice Talent or professional work.
This kind of comment is uncalled for. Criticism of the series is fine, but insults towards cast, creators, or other people involved is not welcome here.
Posted by Kurona on August 16th, 2016 @ 7:53am CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I don't think/feel her performance was the issue to me personally. I think the issue here is more how the character was used than how the actor portrayed the character and how she was performed though. Take the actress who did the line's for the Mistress of Flame character, I feel her performance was particularly wooden and no feeling in. Like the lines were just being read with nothing behind them, but then I wonder if it is simply just part of the character.
I'm definitely trying to reserve my major judgement until I've seen the whole thing in entirety. I don't mind reading and talking about first impressions though.
Your first mistake here is calling these people actresses, they aren't professionals. These people Machinima used are all Facebook losers with no Voice Talent or professional work.
This kind of comment is uncalled for. Criticism of the series is fine, but insults towards cast, creators, or other people involved is not welcome here.
Not to mention that quite a few of them -are- qualified actors/actresses.
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 16th, 2016 @ 8:34am CDT
Kurona wrote:Dr Va'al wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I don't think/feel her performance was the issue to me personally. I think the issue here is more how the character was used than how the actor portrayed the character and how she was performed though. Take the actress who did the line's for the Mistress of Flame character, I feel her performance was particularly wooden and no feeling in. Like the lines were just being read with nothing behind them, but then I wonder if it is simply just part of the character.
I'm definitely trying to reserve my major judgement until I've seen the whole thing in entirety. I don't mind reading and talking about first impressions though.
Your first mistake here is calling these people actresses, they aren't professionals. These people Machinima used are all Facebook losers with no Voice Talent or professional work.
This kind of comment is uncalled for. Criticism of the series is fine, but insults towards cast, creators, or other people involved is not welcome here.
Not to mention that quite a few of them -are- qualified actors/actresses.
Thanks Va'al and Kurona. I appreciate the help here.
Anyone that performs in any kind of work produced for entertainment (professionally/independently) is considered to be playing a part which is very much defined as acting. Even parts with no lines and in the background is "acting" actually. Whether or not people are doing it for big budget or no budget, and still are playing a part is acting. They are actors whether professional or independent here. It's a role they are playing and that's what acting is loosely defined as.
What I said wasn't a mistake though, and frankly I am troubled by your lack of respect here regarding people that are trying to entertain others, such as us. That's a hard thing to do for even seasoned people. You can have issues with the performance of course, but lacking respect almost personally for the people behind it when you didn't like their ability isn't exactly a good attitude itself. It is basically an ad hominem attack against these people and that's not good.
Posted by Va'al on August 16th, 2016 @ 9:14am CDT
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for an episode review soon - and read through our thoughts on episodes one and two in the meantime, too.
Posted by 1984forever on August 16th, 2016 @ 9:30am CDT
The good thing is that this series brings Hasbro one step closer to the realization that only a G1 reboot can bring this franchise back to it's former glory.
Posted by Kurona on August 16th, 2016 @ 9:44am CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 16th, 2016 @ 9:51am CDT
Kurona wrote:Were the Youtube versions of Episode 1 and 2 not uploaded at the same time as their Go90 counterparts? Just curious because Episode 3 hasn't been uploaded on youtube yet.
Don't recall them being uploaded at the same time as their Go90 counterparts. I think it was at the least a few hours apart before they were uploaded to both platforms.
Posted by jamarmiller on August 16th, 2016 @ 9:51am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2016 @ 9:52am CDT
1984forever wrote:I like Windblade as a Nail trying to prevent more war, though the duel was meh.
The good thing is that this series brings Hasbro one step closer to the realization that only a G1 reboot can bring this franchise back to it's former glory.
I agree with part of this assessment. the episode was ok. The animation seemed a bit better on this one, but Windblade seems more like a frustrated child just lashing out at everyone and everything until Prime talks her down. "Only one can help us"--Victorion?
Unfortunately Hasbro will never "reboot G1" they have the classics toy line (which includes CW & TR), and the IDW comics, they feel that's enough G1 to satisfy older fans, and for most, sadly it is. Although fans of the original Marvel comic were treated with Regeneration One , getting the proper ending they always wanted. Fans of the Original Animated series, will never get the proper ending we desire. Hasbro is all about moving forward. Oddly enough though, there is this channel on Youtube that has made a couple of short episodes, purely with pasted together footage from original series episodes, and Japanese episodes. Better voice talent than on CW, and it is getting more positive feedback than CW.
https://www.youtube.com/user/FanaticFilmsINC/videos
Posted by william-james88 on August 16th, 2016 @ 9:53am CDT
Kurona wrote:Were the Youtube versions of Episode 1 and 2 not uploaded at the same time as their Go90 counterparts? Just curious because Episode 3 hasn't been uploaded on youtube yet.
they never are
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 16th, 2016 @ 9:58am CDT
PLEASE check your facts, Seibertron.
Posted by jamarmiller on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:02am CDT
o.supreme wrote:1984forever wrote:I like Windblade as a Nail trying to prevent more war, though the duel was meh.
The good thing is that this series brings Hasbro one step closer to the realization that only a G1 reboot can bring this franchise back to it's former glory.
I agree with part of this assessment. the episode was ok. The animation seemed a bit better on this one, but Windblade seems more like a frustrated child just lashing out at everyone and everything until Prime talks her down. "Only one can help us"--Victorion?
Unfortunately Hasbro will never "reboot G1" they have the classics toy line (which includes CW & TR), and the IDW comics, they feel that's enough G1 to satisfy older fans, and for most, sadly it is. Although fans of the original Marvel comic were treated with Regeneration One , getting the proper ending they always wanted. Fans of the Original Animated series, will never get the proper ending we desire. Hasbro is all about moving forward. Oddly enough though, there is this channel on Youtube that has made a couple of short episodes, purely with pasted together footage from original series episodes, and Japanese episodes. Better voice talent than on CW, and it is getting more positive feedback than CW.
https://www.youtube.com/user/FanaticFilmsINC/videos
Next ep is due to be up on September 10th ! SPREAD THE WORD the more views the more they will likely do and yeah they are getting mostly positive comments made.
Posted by Kurona on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:09am CDT
And by 'my money', I of course mean 'absolutely broke and in the mood for something very silly'.
Posted by Randomhero on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:16am CDT
Posted by Kurona on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:18am CDT
Randomhero wrote:We already got a G1 reboot. It was called Transformers Animated and I'm not joking. Legitimately was the closest thing to a reboot the G1 cartoon and I still miss that series after 8 years.
It is pretty insane just how G1 it is. Pretty much the original cartoon with a new style and actual characterisation and story.
Posted by jamarmiller on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:20am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:23am CDT
Kurona wrote:Randomhero wrote:We already got a G1 reboot. It was called Transformers Animated and I'm not joking. Legitimately was the closest thing to a reboot the G1 cartoon and I still miss that series after 8 years.
It is pretty insane just how G1 it is. Pretty much the original cartoon with a new style and actual characterisation and story.
That's because it was made by fans. Derrick j wiatt pushed for so many things in that show. Shockwave was only in it because Cory Burton was talking during recording how he loved playing shockwave but he had such a small involvement and BOOM! There's shockwave and he's one of the deceptions that did the most damage in the series. Metroplex is the headquarters for the autobots, for max was the elite guard HQ, swindle was dreaming swindle, starscream was exactly what you wanted and they gave us Seekers with an actual reason why they all looked like starscream and Judd freaking Nelson returned as Hotrod!
It was the G1 reboot in so many ways.
Posted by Big Grim on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:25am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Although fans of the original Marvel comic were treated with Regeneration One , getting the proper ending they always wanted.
Regeneration One was not the ending I wanted. That whole thing was a bloomin' disgrace. Utter waste of time.
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:32am CDT
Randomhero wrote:We already got a G1 reboot. It was called Transformers Animated and I'm not joking. Legitimately was the closest thing to a reboot the G1 cartoon and I still miss that series after 8 years.
I don't think I've read a more incorrect comment in a long...long time....and its scarier that others believe that.
Posted by Randomhero on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:40am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Randomhero wrote:We already got a G1 reboot. It was called Transformers Animated and I'm not joking. Legitimately was the closest thing to a reboot the G1 cartoon and I still miss that series after 8 years.
I don't think I've read a more incorrect comment in a long...long time....and its scarier that others believe that.
I guess you're right I mean after all animated wasnt filled with animation, voice and continuity errors like the original g1 cartoon did. It also didn't kill characters to clean the toy selfs so yeah I guess it was nothing like the original cartoon.
My bad. Sorry guys! My bad!
Posted by Kurona on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:43am CDT
Randomhero wrote:o.supreme wrote:Randomhero wrote:We already got a G1 reboot. It was called Transformers Animated and I'm not joking. Legitimately was the closest thing to a reboot the G1 cartoon and I still miss that series after 8 years.
I don't think I've read a more incorrect comment in a long...long time....and its scarier that others believe that.
I guess you're right I mean after all animated wasnt filled with animation, voice and continuity errors like the original g1 cartoon did. It also didn't kill characters to clean the toy selfs so yeah I guess it was nothing like the original cartoon.
My bad. Sorry guys! My bad!
Chill
Posted by 1984forever on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:44am CDT
With Hasbro releasing the TR line they are missing an opportunity right now to continue G1. Combiner Wars could have been part of the continuation. Current toys could have been sold while satisfying G1 cartoon fans at the same time. All the pieces were in place. After Rebirth, Rodimus was back to being Hot Rod, none of the Combiner teams were dead,Prime was back, Galvatron was in charge and Starscream had a new body which could've been drawn as his CW body. An experimental Headmaster swap could be used as a plot device to introduce the new Titan Master concept, and explain why a character like Galvatron would remove his head.o.supreme wrote:1984forever wrote:I like Windblade as a Nail trying to prevent more war, though the duel was meh.
The good thing is that this series brings Hasbro one step closer to the realization that only a G1 reboot can bring this franchise back to it's former glory.
I agree with part of this assessment. the episode was ok. The animation seemed a bit better on this one, but Windblade seems more like a frustrated child just lashing out at everyone and everything until Prime talks her down. "Only one can help us"--Victorion?
Unfortunately Hasbro will never "reboot G1" they have the classics toy line (which includes CW & TR), and the IDW comics, they feel that's enough G1 to satisfy older fans, and for most, sadly it is. Although fans of the original Marvel comic were treated with Regeneration One , getting the proper ending they always wanted. Fans of the Original Animated series, will never get the proper ending we desire. Hasbro is all about moving forward. Oddly enough though, there is this channel on Youtube that has made a couple of short episodes, purely with pasted together footage from original series episodes, and Japanese episodes. Better voice talent than on CW, and it is getting more positive feedback than CW.
https://www.youtube.com/user/FanaticFilmsINC/videos
Instead the writers decided to stick their heads up IDWs tail pipes and rip off a boring story line complete with Transformers they can't sell. Mistress of the Flame, I'm looking at you.
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:47am CDT
Randomhero wrote:I guess you're right I mean after all animated wasnt filled with animation, voice and continuity errors like the original g1 cartoon did. It also didn't kill characters to clean the toy selfs so yeah I guess it was nothing like the original cartoon.
My bad. Sorry guys! My bad!
Animated was an error in its entirety. When the look of the show is based on a 8 year olds drawing in crayon, I'd call that one big error. Also...silly fan thinks Animated wasn't designed to sell toys. Well perhaps it didn't sell toys...perhaps that's why it got cancelled.
See you can bash the original all you want, and I can retort. This will get us nowhere. I was just simply stating it would be nice to have a return of the original series. I know its not going to happen, but I can have my opinion.
Posted by Randomhero on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:49am CDT
Kurona wrote:Randomhero wrote:o.supreme wrote:Randomhero wrote:We already got a G1 reboot. It was called Transformers Animated and I'm not joking. Legitimately was the closest thing to a reboot the G1 cartoon and I still miss that series after 8 years.
I don't think I've read a more incorrect comment in a long...long time....and its scarier that others believe that.
I guess you're right I mean after all animated wasnt filled with animation, voice and continuity errors like the original g1 cartoon did. It also didn't kill characters to clean the toy selfs so yeah I guess it was nothing like the original cartoon.
My bad. Sorry guys! My bad!
Chill
No I'm totally chill agreeing that animated was missing that G1 flare and really missed out on stories like some college students building a robot with personality components of a deception or the deceptions getting fed up with megatrons erratic bahavior and sending him a planet for therapy or even an episode with Sari and a bumblebee spending an entire episode trying to figure out Ratchets birthday.
Yeah...animated just missed the mark of being a good show.
Posted by Randomhero on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:52am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Randomhero wrote:I guess you're right I mean after all animated wasnt filled with animation, voice and continuity errors like the original g1 cartoon did. It also didn't kill characters to clean the toy selfs so yeah I guess it was nothing like the original cartoon.
My bad. Sorry guys! My bad!
Animated was an error in its entirety. When the look of the show is based on a 8 year olds drawing in crayon, I'd call that one big error. Also...silly fan thinks Animated wasn't designed to sell toys. Well perhaps it didn't sell toys...perhaps that's why it got cancelled.
See you can bash the original all you want, and I can retort. This will get us nowhere. I was just simply stating it would be nice to have a return of the original series. I know its not going to happen, but I can have my opinion.
I'm sorry you live I a world that believes transformers should be for grown men that buy toys. Animated was a show that aired a network of cartoons at a 8am timeslot on a Saturday.
Must be nice thinking transformers are next to power tools in a store instead of power rangers.
Posted by Va'al on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:52am CDT
Not Animated. Not G1. Not trade insults.
Thank you.
Posted by william-james88 on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:54am CDT
o.supreme wrote: Fans of the Original Animated series, will never get the proper ending we desire.
I dont understand that part. Japan kept the G1 cartoon going, why cant that be what you watch if you want more G1?
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2016 @ 10:54am CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:Reminder: This thread is to talk about the Machinima Combiner Wars series.
Not Animated. Not G1. Not trade insults.
Thank you.
yup. I just put him on ignore. I cant see his comments anymore. But when you start talking complete nonsense, that's what you have to do for civility.
Posted by Va'al on August 16th, 2016 @ 11:00am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2016 @ 11:01am CDT
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote: Fans of the Original Animated series, will never get the proper ending we desire.
I dont understand that part. Japan kept the G1 cartoon going, why cant that be what you watch if you want more G1?
That is actually a great point. To "Me", I actually incorporate the Japanese series. Actually they are like a treasure trove to me, and I greatly appreciate them and to me they are the true continuation. I have said many times, that with a little creative re-writing you can start the Japanese Headmasters series after Rebirth and go from there. But I know several fans of the original series do not share my opinion. I get that. I have weird thoughts I know.
I'd actually like to see Return of Convoy & Operation Combination get put into some sort of animated form, then explain from that point the 300 years that happened between it, and the start of the Beast Wars. Again I know its nothing official, its just the way I think.
I wish I could comment more about CW. My comments about the latest episode are in my first post of the day. not much else to say...sadly.
Posted by Kurona on August 16th, 2016 @ 11:05am CDT
The original G1 cartoon didn't have an ongoing story, it was basically just a collection of one-shots with a few themes scattered about and sometimes some multi-episode, albeit self-contained stories like The Ultimate Doom and Five Faces of Darkness - which is fine. It worked perfectly for what it was. It's arguably one of it's greater strengths; not having to follow along with an ongoing story meant you could tune in each time with very minimal knowledge of what the story is - all you needed to know is that the Autobots are the good alien robots and the Decepticons are the bad alien robots. And in this episode they're doing -insert wacky plot line and plot device-.
So a big reason we don't get a conclusion to it... is that there's nothing really to conclude. There was no storyline started that wasn't finished within the same episode or in a later part. No big mysteries, no big overlooming threat other than the war that keeps going on. It's just a series where things happen, it's wacky, it's fun, it has action and quirky characters. Nothing more, nothing less - and it means there's nothing to wrap up.
Anyway, the episode's up on youtube.
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on August 16th, 2016 @ 11:08am CDT
watched episode 3 and finished it and Optimus pretty much says windblade is right on what they need to do,
who wrote this crap?
sorry for swearing, i cant wait till she gets her head crushed in after her spine is ripped out used to whip her than strangle the glitch and her legs torn off shoved through her abdomen as her wings are wielded to a wall, keeping her from escaping like a butterfly in museum. So we can watch as blades slowly carve off the metal off her body before she is finished off ONCE AND FOR ALL using her sword to carve her spark out of her Chest with one final slash up to slice her head in half.
Posted by Kurona on August 16th, 2016 @ 11:13am CDT
But my the animation is just not good. When Windblade is forcing Optimus back with her sword slashing it looks less like he's being backed into a corner and more like he's pulling off some funky dance moves. Where's Jazz and Blaster when you need a posse?
Posted by Randomhero on August 16th, 2016 @ 11:21am CDT
Sorry I'll remember for the future only to insult and be critical towards stuff that can't defend itself on a message board wity the metality of "we can insult stuff that has no presence here but the second you do it to me, that won't be tolerated"
Posted by Kurona on August 16th, 2016 @ 11:24am CDT
Randomhero wrote:I'm so sorry I forgot this is the internet where you can totally bash and be critical of something that can't defend itself but the moment someone retorts with the same immaturity they're instantly told they're being insulting.
Sorry I'll remember for the future only to insult and be critical towards stuff that can't defend itself on a message board wity the metality of "we can insult stuff that has no presence here but the second you do it to me, that won't be tolerated"
Mate, while I don't agree with what they're saying, you really need to calm down a little. You won't be convincing anyone if you keep going with that sort of attitude; especially when it's over something as little as opinions on cartoons that are both meant to sell toys to children.