Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi

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We sort of missed on these when Machinima first shared them last month, but they seem to be making the rounds again via social media and artists sharing them - so we thought to highlight their existence again! Check out below four promotional pieces of art for the animated series Combiner Wars, featuring some of the major players in the show, as imagined by Guido Guidi, Chris Antoin, Keron Grant, and Skan Srisuwan!

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1823898)
Posted by MarkNL on September 12th, 2016 @ 7:16am CDT

That's some really fine artwork right there. :APPLAUSE:

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1823906)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 12th, 2016 @ 8:03am CDT

I really like the artwork on all of those

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1823956)
Posted by Big Grim on September 12th, 2016 @ 10:05am CDT

That battle scene and Computron art are both fantastic!

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1823966)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 12th, 2016 @ 10:33am CDT

Wouldn't it have been nice to see these kinds of scenes in the show itself?

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1823980)
Posted by Guido on September 12th, 2016 @ 11:30am CDT

The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1823982)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 12th, 2016 @ 11:33am CDT

Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too

Oh. wow, hi Mr. Guidi! :shock:

Welcome to Seibertron!

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824024)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 12th, 2016 @ 1:33pm CDT

Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too

Well I'll be, that's pretty awesome!

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824032)
Posted by william-james88 on September 12th, 2016 @ 1:42pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too
Oh. wow, hi Mr. Guidi! Welcome to Seibertron!

This is pretty cool.

Thanks for stopping by sir, I am a big fan of your work!

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824047)
Posted by Guido on September 12th, 2016 @ 2:11pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too
Oh. wow, hi Mr. Guidi! Welcome to Seibertron!

This is pretty cool.

Thanks for stopping by sir, I am a big fan of your work!

And I'm a big Seibertron.com fan

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824105)
Posted by King Kuuga on September 12th, 2016 @ 3:19pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too
Oh. wow, hi Mr. Guidi! Welcome to Seibertron!

Guido
Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 10:38

Sabrblade
Joined: 06 Dec 2007, 21:22

Looks like he's been here longer than you.

Man this is some nice art. If only the show had these awesome scenes.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824307)
Posted by Galactic Prime on September 13th, 2016 @ 8:45am CDT

Kurona wrote:Again, I... I really don't get it. All the kibble's there, transformation is used as a plot point, as a way to build mystery and intrigue; while other series use transformation as... just a thing they can do and that's it. Sorry if it sounds like I'm singling you out; but I've heard IDW described by quite a few people as the one series to not use transformation when it's the one series to really actually take advantage of transformation.

IDW is garbage, has been since day one.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824309)
Posted by Autobot N on September 13th, 2016 @ 8:47am CDT

Galactic Prime wrote:IDW is garbage, has been since day one.

Not this again.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824313)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 13th, 2016 @ 8:54am CDT

Autobot N wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:IDW is garbage, has been since day one.
Not this again.

Lemme guess, this is gonna lead to another eventual round of "They should bring back to G1 cartoon!" again, isn't it. >:oP

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824319)
Posted by Galactic Prime on September 13th, 2016 @ 9:08am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:IDW is garbage, has been since day one.
Not this again.
Lemme guess, this is gonna lead to another eventual round of "They should bring back to G1 cartoon!" again, isn't it.

No, but it's no Dreamwave.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824323)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 13th, 2016 @ 9:16am CDT

Episode 7 - https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_92b2644504054b28a8b694748ea11c87

Oh, but OF COURSE this episode would contain more of the recycled TFTM lines that we so haven't already heard a million times before. With a title like THAT, why wouldn't it?!

As to the episode itself... I could barely make heads or tails of it. At first, it kinda seemed like this show tried to justify Starscream's actions from the end of last episode by having him monologue with a sound, rational mind and not sounding like his selfish old self and such, but the points he was making were too vague to tell if he was speaking from his reformed perspective or from his original ambitious backstabber perspective. He needs to survive to the end of next episode and get turned back to normal for us to really see why he did what he did.

I say all this because, not long after his monologue, he pretty much breaks into madness and all chaos lets loose from the power of the Enigma. And here's where things get more haphazard than ever. Windblade sees the destruction that Enigma Starscream is causing and feels SAD about it. But wasn't this exactly what she wanted earlier in the show? To have all of the Cybertronians killed off? She's had practically zero character growth in this show for her now feeling sorry for Cybertron to not look like a rushed and forced attempt at pathos (which it totally does). And then when she gets hurt and falls to the ground, there's sad music and slow motion playing all around to signal our, the viewers', needing to feel sad about Windblade's condition, when she's been so completely unlikable up to this point as to hardly warrant any kind of empathy from the viewers.

Oh, and her fans can totally repel the force of a black hole. Yeah, that's a thing now, for some reason. And there's a black hole now, because why not?!

Meanwhile, Optimus was probably at his best here, performance-wise, and Cy-Kill masquerading as Megatron is still fun.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824330)
Posted by Va'al on September 13th, 2016 @ 9:29am CDT

Another Tuesday, another episode of the Machinima Transformers: Combiner Wars animated series: Episode 7 - Darkest Hour - shows out more about Starscream's plan, the Enigma of combination, and how Windblade, Optimus and Megatron deal with everything else going on. For US viewers, you can stream the episode here - for some non-US viewers, there will be a YouTube upload later today on the official Machinima channel here.

Join the discussion in the Energon Pub, and pop back to Seibertron.com later for an episode review!

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824338)
Posted by o.supreme on September 13th, 2016 @ 9:52am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:IDW is garbage, has been since day one.
Not this again.
Lemme guess, this is gonna lead to another eventual round of "They should bring back to G1 cartoon!" again, isn't it.

I doubt it...the reasons for bringing back the original animated series are much more valid than just disappointment with some aspects of IDW, but as I've stated many times, I know it will never happen...thus we have things like THIS...

CW episode 7...yeeesh what a mess...every time they give us a glimpse of hope...at what might *possibly* be something cool...they go and muck it up. I know this series is completely its own continuity...but some of the series creators saw this as their "vision" of how the original series might have continued....man...what is wrong with people?

Also congrats on Windblade...for the first time they have created a character that, *if* she is dead (which is doubtful), nobody cares. Unlike Maxima..I think we were supposed to care about Windblade...nope not feeling it.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824340)
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 13th, 2016 @ 9:54am CDT

I have no idea what to make of that episode. :-?

May need to watch it a few more times. I take it the next one is the final in the series then?

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824341)
Posted by Autobot N on September 13th, 2016 @ 9:58am CDT

*sees Windblade "die"*

image.jpeg

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824342)
Posted by Big Grim on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:03am CDT

Galactic Prime wrote:No, but it's no Dreamwave.

Thank goodness for that! While DW did help kickstart Transformers comics again, they ended poorly. I do not miss DW. IDW has been excellent for a long, long time and I actively look forward to my next issues of TAAO and MTMTE (soon to be Lost Light.).

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824343)
Posted by o.supreme on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:04am CDT

20 years from now...if we are speaking of significant hero deaths in Transformers fiction there will be Optimus in TF:TM, Dinobot in BW "Code of Hero" and....

not Windblade in CW

as for DW all I will say is this...too many people cannot separate Pat Lee from DW. Yes he was a crook, and is a terrible person. But the stories that DW as a company (the authors and TRUE artists ) were developing were pretty darn good. I really miss their G1 ongoing, though it only got 10 (or so) issues before getting cancelled, I liked the world they were building better than current IDW.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824345)
Posted by william-james88 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:07am CDT

o.supreme wrote:20 years from now...if we are speaking of significant hero deaths in Transformers fiction there will be Optimus in TF:TM, Dinobot in BW "Code of Hero" and....

Skids

EDIT: And Ratchet? I found that pretty damn sad in AOE. Brutal too.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824350)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT

Well that was...something. :HEADHURTS:

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824351)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:15am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:20 years from now...if we are speaking of significant hero deaths in Transformers fiction there will be Optimus in TF:TM, Dinobot in BW "Code of Hero" and....

Skids

EDIT: And Ratchet? I found that pretty damn sad in AOE. Brutal too.

Inferno, guys. Inferno.

Never forget.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824354)
Posted by o.supreme on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:23am CDT

william-james88 wrote:And Ratchet? I found that pretty damn sad in AOE. Brutal too.

I agree 100%...don't know if it resonates with as many people though...I guess w'll know in time.

As for comics...and you can blame this on Marvel & DC...but I don't get emotional at death in comics anymore...

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824355)
Posted by Randomhero on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:31am CDT

o.supreme wrote:20 years from now...if we are speaking of significant hero deaths in Transformers fiction there will be Optimus in TF:TM, Dinobot in BW "Code of Hero" and....

not Windblade in CW

as for DW all I will say is this...too many people cannot separate Pat Lee from DW. Yes he was a crook, and is a terrible person. But the stories that DW as a company (the authors and TRUE artists ) were developing were pretty darn good. I really miss their G1 ongoing, though it only got 10 (or so) issues before getting cancelled, I liked the world they were building better than current IDW.

Yeah but even without thinking about their terrible business practices, they weren't doing anything amazing in the comics. I'll never understand why DW was so compelled to introduce characters in their toy waves like they did. Brad Mick retconned the first story so that only the 1984 bots and cons were on earth, made all the triple changers shockwaves personal squad, turned the 85 car bots into a council that leads cybertron with no regards to their personalities, made all the 86 movie characters a rebellion unit against Shockwave. For whatever reason they introduced characters in waves like they were coming to stores and they weren't. Dreamwave tossed characters in roles that did not fit their personalities just to place them in the waves they were released in back in the 80s. Ex grapple and Red Alert apparently can become leaders of Cybertron. And while yes, IDW has done complete 180s of characters personalities they're not desperately trying to recreate the feeling of the cartoon like DW was doing.

Looking back on it, it really felt like DW had no future plans for Transformers. By year 3 they were already heading toward Unicron and already introduced most of the G1 transformers. IDW has been around for 11 years and is still making long term plans. Season 2 of MTMTE just wrapped and ended plot threads Roberts seeded back in 2012 in chaos and stuff that was in Bullets in LSTOW from 2010.

You'd have to really try to work hard to convince anyone DW was thinking ahead with long term plans. Mick and Patyck had some plans but every time they were seeding something, Furman was countering it with War Within. Example being triple changers.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824359)
Posted by Big Grim on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:34am CDT

o.supreme wrote:But the stories that DW as a company (the authors and TRUE artists ) were developing were pretty darn good. I really miss their G1 ongoing, though it only got 10 (or so) issues before getting cancelled, I liked the world they were building better than current IDW.

It basically tried to continue the original G1 prior to season 2 after a fashion (except for random Superion.). There were a good few entertaining stories, sure, but honestly, I have been enjoying IDW's total relaunch a lot better. Starting it all up again in modern times, it's gotten progressively better. Most of RiD and damn near all of MTMTE has been outta this world good. I mean heck, MTMTE has won awards! While some of DW was good (War Within was amazing) I am more than happy with IDW and how they've reinvented the brand.

Randomhero wrote:Yeah but even without thinking about their terrible business practices, they weren't doing anything amazing in the comics. I'll never understand why DW was so compelled to introduce characters in their toy waves like they did. Brad Mick retconned the first story so that only the 1984 bots and cons were on earth, made all the triple changers shockwaves personal squad, turned the 85 car bots into a council that leads cybertron with no regards to their personalities, made all the 86 movie characters a rebellion unit against Shockwave. For whatever reason they introduced characters in waves like they were coming to stores and they weren't. Dreamwave tossed characters in roles that did not fit their personalities just to place them in the waves they were released in back in the 80s. Ex grapple and Red Alert apparently can become leaders of Cybertron. And while yes, IDW has done complete 180s of characters personalities they're not desperately trying to recreate the feeling of the cartoon like DW was doing.

Looking back on it, it really felt like DW had no future plans for Transformers. By year 3 they were already heading toward Unicron and already introduced most of the G1 transformers. IDW has been around for 11 years and is still making long term plans. Season 2 of MTMTE just wrapped and ended plot threads Roberts seeded back in 2012 in chaos and stuff that was in Bullets in LSTOW from 2010.

You'd have to really try to work hard to convince anyone DW was thinking ahead with long term plans. Mick and Patyck had some plans but every time they were seeding something, Furman was countering it with War Within. Example being triple changers.

All very good points.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824364)
Posted by william-james88 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:37am CDT

Big Grim wrote:
o.supreme wrote:But the stories that DW as a company (the authors and TRUE artists ) were developing were pretty darn good. I really miss their G1 ongoing, though it only got 10 (or so) issues before getting cancelled, I liked the world they were building better than current IDW.

It basically tried to continue the original G1 prior to the 86 movie and season 3 after a fashion. There were a good few entertaining stories, sure, but honestly, I have been enjoying IDW's total relaunch a lot better. Starting it all up again in modern times, it's gotten progressively better. Most of RiD and damn near all of MTMTE has been outta this world good. I mean heck, MTMTE has won awards! While some of DW was good (War Within was amazing) I am more than happy with IDW and how they've reinvented the brand.

I have issues with the RID. I had a really tough time gettin through Dark Cybertron. I also have a tough time seeing Rattrap interact with Starscream, but thats just me.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824368)
Posted by Big Grim on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:43am CDT

william-james88 wrote:I have issues with the RID. I had a really tough time gettin through Dark Cybertron. I also have a tough time seeing Rattrap interact with Starscream, but thats just me.

RID had it's issues, sure. It's been better of late though it has seemed to keep building up to something and fizzling out before it gets there. I think everyone had a hard time getting through Dark Cybertron. That was rough.

MTMTE is my primary read. It's been great fun and they've done amazing things with Megatron and the Lost Light's crew. TAAO has been slow but the preview we just saw has me pretty stoked! I quite like Rattrap and other continuity characters appearing. I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824377)
Posted by william-james88 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:53am CDT

Big Grim wrote:MTMTE is my primary read. It's been great fun and they've done amazing things with Megatron and the Lost Light's crew. TAAO has been slow but the preview we just saw has me pretty stoked! I quite like Rattrap and other continuity characters appearing. I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.

Is it just me or does that voice sound like Phil Hartman?

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824378)
Posted by Randomhero on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:53am CDT

Big Grim wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I have issues with the RID. I had a really tough time gettin through Dark Cybertron. I also have a tough time seeing Rattrap interact with Starscream, but thats just me.

RID had it's issues, sure. It's been better of late though it has seemed to keep building up to something and fizzling out before it gets there. I think everyone had a hard time getting through Dark Cybertron. That was rough.

MTMTE is my primary read. It's been great fun and they've done amazing things with Megatron and the Lost Light's crew. TAAO has been slow but the preview we just saw has me pretty stoked! I quite like Rattrap and other continuity characters appearing. I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.

I love RID, it's my primary and MTMTE is my secondary. I can see how it flips with people. RID is about plot while MTMTE is about character for the most part.

Only issue I've had with RID is that it easily forgets characters it introduces. Remember Zetca? Tappet? Blurr? DIRGE?!?!? Dirge was extremely important to the first 17 issues and now he may get a cameo in Till All Are One. Then again the focus on RID isn't on Cybertron anymore.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824383)
Posted by Kurona on September 13th, 2016 @ 11:11am CDT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZOKHT1t0U

I... I really don't have a clue what's going on anymore. It's just a lot of things happening.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824385)
Posted by Big Grim on September 13th, 2016 @ 11:21am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Big Grim wrote:I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.

Is it just me or does that voice sound like Phil Hartman?

Holy cow! He really does! I'd never made that connection before!

Randomhero wrote:
Big Grim wrote:MTMTE is my primary read. It's been great fun and they've done amazing things with Megatron and the Lost Light's crew. TAAO has been slow but the preview we just saw has me pretty stoked! I quite like Rattrap and other continuity characters appearing. I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.

I love RID, it's my primary and MTMTE is my secondary. I can see how it flips with people. RID is about plot while MTMTE is about character for the most part.

Only issue I've had with RID is that it easily forgets characters it introduces. Remember Zetca? Tappet? Blurr? DIRGE?!?!? Dirge was extremely important to the first 17 issues and now he may get a cameo in Till All Are One. Then again the focus on RID isn't on Cybertron anymore.

Yeah, I hear that. MTMTE has a tighter focus on the individuals than ex-RiD. I honestly couldn't tell you who Zetca or Tappet are. I wonder where Dirge went? I assume Blurr is still tending to his bar.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824388)
Posted by Kurona on September 13th, 2016 @ 11:29am CDT

I'm starting to feel really weird about this series.

Like, it's bad; no doubt about it (and unless the last episode is a miracle of writing that's not going to change). And there's so many things on this episode I could comment on and criticise - the half-hearted undeserved death scene, the original 'ultimate combiner' design for Starscream before he broke up being really bland, just everything in general being an unexplained mess...

But I can't. I can't really bring myself to. I don't really feel anger or disappointment when I watch this anymore; I just feel kind of... empty. Like. There's just nothing. It's just there, and it's bad, and it's embarrassing. And it's nothing.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824398)
Posted by o.supreme on September 13th, 2016 @ 11:56am CDT

Randomhero wrote:they weren't doing anything amazing in the comics.

Exactly how I feel about IDW since All hail megatron ended.

Randomhero wrote:I'll never understand why DW was so compelled to introduce characters in their toy waves like they did.

I'll never understand why IDW just has characters show up randomly without any proper introduction or backstory

Randomhero wrote:characters in roles that did not fit their personalities

Exactly how I feel about IDW

Randomhero wrote:Looking back on it, it really felt like DW had no future plans for Transformers. By year 3 they were already heading toward Unicron and already introduced most of the G1 transformers.

You tell me after all of Furmans dull-as-dishwater "tion" series IDW had long term plans?--They got lucky, switched up some new writers and artists (several from DW btw)...and had the funds to keep going. The only difference is the fact that DW had a terrible business model. Had DW been legit financially...I could very easily see it still around today. Had IDW been solvent financially. I can see them as a distant memory... It is simply a matter of funding in this case...

Just like Spectacular Spider-Man/ Avengers EMH...most agreed were great animated series...however MARVEL pulls funding and gives it to Disney--the result...two vastly inferior series, though funded with deeper pockets, has the ability to go on for a long time.

Except in this case...I know most fans are pleased with current IDW...I get that...but I can still dream about "what if" DW continued...

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824401)
Posted by fenrir72 on September 13th, 2016 @ 12:06pm CDT

Oh memory lane. All this talk about DW and not Machinima. Btw, I pegged Underbase saga on the mark.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824405)
Posted by Madeus Prime on September 13th, 2016 @ 12:08pm CDT

Figured they'd do something cliche like this. :lol:

Starscream goes psycho with power, what else is new? :roll:

Only good part is the ridiculous ball/floating head of power, very anime-esque (evil being is destroyed only to make it worse).

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824408)
Posted by o.supreme on September 13th, 2016 @ 12:12pm CDT

Madeus Prime wrote:Figured they'd do something cliche like this. Starscream goes psycho with power, what else is new? Only good part is the ridiculous ball/floating head of power, very anime-esque (evil being is destroyed only to make it worse).

My 10 year old son said it reminded him of Sigma from Mega Man X...I had to chuckle at that a little. :lol:

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824411)
Posted by Randomhero on September 13th, 2016 @ 12:24pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:
Randomhero wrote:they weren't doing anything amazing in the comics.

Exactly how I feel about IDW since All hail megatron ended.

Randomhero wrote:I'll never understand why DW was so compelled to introduce characters in their toy waves like they did.

I'll never understand why IDW just has characters show up randomly without any proper introduction or backstory

Randomhero wrote:characters in roles that did not fit their personalities

Exactly how I feel about IDW

Randomhero wrote:Looking back on it, it really felt like DW had no future plans for Transformers. By year 3 they were already heading toward Unicron and already introduced most of the G1 transformers.

You tell me after all of Furmans dull-as-dishwater "tion" series IDW had long term plans?--They got lucky, switched up some new writers and artists (several from DW btw)...and had the funds to keep going. The only difference is the fact that DW had a terrible business model. Had DW been legit financially...I could very easily see it still around today. Had IDW been solvent financially. I can see them as a distant memory... It is simply a matter of funding in this case...

Just like Spectacular Spider-Man/ Avengers EMH...most agreed were great animated series...however MARVEL pulls funding and gives it to Disney--the result...two vastly inferior series, though funded with deeper pockets, has the ability to go on for a long time.

Except in this case...I know most fans are pleased with current IDW...I get that...but I can still dream about "what if" DW continued...

I don't see how you can say IDW hasn't don't anything amazing. They ended the war, they've turned the decepticons from being just "evil robots that are evil for being evil" to a group that started the war because they wanted equality, they didn't want their alt modes to define them. The made the Prime's something corrupt and honestly bad instead of always being good guy after good guy. There's a lot of great fresh ideas in IDW.

As for their personalities, why do they have to be exactly like the cartoon or marvel comic? Why not recreate characters and give them the ability to change into something new? Sorry but after 30 years you don't have to follow what a cartoon did or a paragraph Bob Budiansky wrote on notebook paper.

Furman had a huge plans. Revolation was suppose to be a 6 issue story and that was to be followed by expansion and there was Simons own decepticon invasion of earth as well as the Machination attack led by Scorponok but Andy Schmidt cut Furmans legs from under him and Simon was forced to condense 12 issues of comics into 4 and was allowed to finish his earth stuff up in Maximum Dinobots. Everything he as working toward got crunched down. I'll be the first to admit the Furman era of Transformers for IDW is "okay" it's not great, it's not bad, it's just okay. He was just reusing unplanned ideas for marvel and dreamwave with some story ideas and you could tell. Not as bad a regeneration one where he just rehashed his scrapped IDW ideas in a comic that did not need them. Simon has his babies and he felt like we needed them to be the center of IDW(scorponok, grimlock, shockwave, thunderwing, Jhiaxus etc) but without the -ation era, without AHM the Costa era we wouldn't have some of the great stuff John and James have done. Without Megatron Origin, wouldn't have the megatron we've had for two and half years in MTMTE.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824417)
Posted by o.supreme on September 13th, 2016 @ 12:42pm CDT

[quote="Randomhero"] As for their personalities, why do they have to be exactly like the cartoon or marvel comic? [quote]

I am confused...you were the one that first mentioned DW characters did not fit their personalities...I just redirected your thoughts towards IDW..because to ME Those characters are the ones that do not fit...

All the story points you mentioned mean little if someone simply doesn't enjoy them. Of all the IDW stories..Stormbringer was ok...All Hail Megatron was the best. I had high hopes for Combiner Wars but it was a bit of a let down (not nearly as bad as this animated series however)Sorry...Megatron being an Autobot is just plain stupid, that is just one example of many. The reason why I enjoyed DW so much is yes because it in some ways reminded me of the original animated series I enjoy to this day (while clearly not being the same), and nothing else has come close. When I read DW comics I can clearly hear all the animated character voices in my head...when I read IDW...Its like hearing the Omni Productions English dub of Headmasters... its just not right.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824423)
Posted by Bronzewolf on September 13th, 2016 @ 1:12pm CDT

Kurona wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZOKHT1t0U

I... I really don't have a clue what's going on anymore. It's just a lot of things happening.

Kurona wrote:I'm starting to feel really weird about this series.

Like, it's bad; no doubt about it (and unless the last episode is a miracle of writing that's not going to change). And there's so many things on this episode I could comment on and criticise - the half-hearted undeserved death scene, the original 'ultimate combiner' design for Starscream before he broke up being really bland, just everything in general being an unexplained mess...

But I can't. I can't really bring myself to. I don't really feel anger or disappointment when I watch this anymore; I just feel kind of... empty. Like. There's just nothing. It's just there, and it's bad, and it's embarrassing. And it's nothing.

Lol I think Kurona finally snapped. I think it finally broke her. EDIT: Though, after seeing it, I have to say I agree 100%

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824424)
Posted by DarkEnergon on September 13th, 2016 @ 1:12pm CDT

Wow, that episode was crap. A whole lot of nothing happening. I was frustrated with how annoyed everyone was at the last episode, but was thinking well with Starscream it will be interesting. No, just some random stuff getting blowed up. And how many times did Megatron have junk fall on him and Optimus help him up? Why does Starscream want all the power - to blow everything up? Get back at everyone for teasing him? Because he things he's the best leader for cybertron?

I really like the animation style and art, actually, but I also like my adolescent-variety carnage to invite me to guess a little bit why and where it's going.

Oh, and I can't even show my kids this harmless show because at the bottom of the Go90 app is always a talk show about sex toys or something.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824425)
Posted by o.supreme on September 13th, 2016 @ 1:16pm CDT

DarkEnergon wrote:Oh, and I can't even show my kids this harmless show because at the bottom of the Go90 app is always a talk show about sex toys or something.

maximize screen...show episode...dismiss the kids...close app. Trust me I know all about this

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824427)
Posted by Bronzewolf on September 13th, 2016 @ 1:21pm CDT

Can someone please tell me what that was? I mean, it made 0 sense what So ever at all, there was no emotion to any of it. It's supposed to be this big, powerful scene filled with tension and drama but
You feel nothing!!!
It feels like a mashed-together scrap pile of terrible writing, directing, and sound effects. From Windblade's "Death scene" to Starscream's random yell at the very end that looked and sounded like something out of the 5 Nights at Freddy's games. I... I don't even want to review it! It was set up so well over the last couple of episodes in my opinion, and then they go and do this!

Ugh, I think it broke me, as well.

(I will review the episode later, and it won't be as harsh as this comment, don't worry. This was just my initial reaction. Sorry to go all Nostalgia Critic on you all.)

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824434)
Posted by Randomhero on September 13th, 2016 @ 1:34pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:
Randomhero wrote: As for their personalities, why do they have to be exactly like the cartoon or marvel comic?

I am confused...you were the one that first mentioned DW characters did not fit their personalities...I just redirected your thoughts towards IDW..because to ME Those characters are the ones that do not fit...

All the story points you mentioned mean little if someone simply doesn't enjoy them. Of all the IDW stories..Stormbringer was ok...All Hail Megatron was the best. I had high hopes for Combiner Wars but it was a bit of a let down (not nearly as bad as this animated series however)Sorry...Megatron being an Autobot is just plain stupid, that is just one example of many. The reason why I enjoyed DW so much is yes because it in some ways reminded me of the original animated series I enjoy to this day (while clearly not being the same), and nothing else has come close. When I read DW comics I can clearly hear all the animated character voices in my head...when I read IDW...Its like hearing the Omni Productions English dub of Headmasters... its just not right.

I also stated that while DW just shoehorned characters in to fit in with their waves mate without regard for their personalities they were trying so hard to be the cartoon. IDW has never tried to be the cartoon. They've worked to be their own thing. DW wanted desperately to be the cartoon but sacrificed certain characters personalities to just put them together with their wave mates as if they had toys on the shelves when they didn't.

To be honest I don't hear the cartoon voices in IDW and I don't mind. It doesn't bother me. A lot admit they hear Animated megatron from MTMTE Megs. Personally I hear Fred Tadashore from war/fall of Cybertron. I grew up and enjoy the cartoon too, I believe it still holds up but I don't find it to be the best thing about transformers

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824437)
Posted by Autobot N on September 13th, 2016 @ 1:40pm CDT

Y'know, I think I would rather watch Age of Extinction before seeing any of these again.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824438)
Posted by 1984forever on September 13th, 2016 @ 1:41pm CDT

The G1 cartoon is what got kids pushing their parents into a toy buying frenzy back in '84. The comic didn't make any waves. The toys were released under the Diaclone banner years before and no one cared. The G1 cartoon is what made Transformers so popular, so every cartoon and comic should be like the G1 cartoon.

DW got it right. IDW got it wrong. Machinima is dead wrong to follow IDW. This episode was horrible. I understand that the series has a tight budget. They shouldn't have called it Combiner Wars if they can't afford to give us the war that they're advertising. They would have been better off giving us a smaller scale Windblade story.

What Hasbro should do is simply reanimate the G1 cartoon with better action sequences using the current toy models while keeping all the old audio.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824439)
Posted by Autobot N on September 13th, 2016 @ 1:43pm CDT

1984forever wrote:What Hasbro should do is simply reanimate the G1 cartoon with better action sequences using the current toy models while keeping all the old audio.

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824442)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 13th, 2016 @ 1:49pm CDT

I will finish the last episode, but this to me hasn't been very good. Very.... something. I would need time to think about proper words for it

Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi (1824450)
Posted by Kurona on September 13th, 2016 @ 2:04pm CDT

1984forever wrote:What Hasbro should do is simply reanimate the G1 cartoon with better action sequences using the current toy models while keeping all the old audio.

Nah. The animation - style, errors and all - was part of it's charm.

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