Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW

Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW

Friday, September 23rd, 2016 12:45am CDT

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Seibertronians, it is time. It certainly has been a journey full of ups and downs, curves, and many, many problems. But like all other journeys this one must come to an end. The curtains are starting to close. It is time. Time to review the final episode of Machinima's Combiner Wars series.


We start with Windblade. She is floating in a Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows-style afterlife dream sequence. A voice wakes her. She realizes it belongs to metroplex. He tells her that the titans have been listening to her thoughts, and don't like the anger they've seen within them.
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Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

She apologizes for what she's done, but the titans remind her of who she truely is. She wakes up again on cybertron, because death means nothing.


And then, and then!!As if being able to take down a Combiner with a swipe of her sword or stop a friggin' BLACK HOLE WITH HER TURBINES wasn't enough for her, Windblade gets to take complete control of Metroplex! Awesome potential there for a entertaining story, right? Well...
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It's just his arm...That's it.

Yes, that's right. Metroplex's arm makes a surprise appearance for some reason.

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Friggin' called it! Well, sorta

A quick note: Starscream's...well...screams are absolutely horrendous. Nearly unwatchable. They sound like some tormented demon baby. 

Windblade smashes the titan's limb onto starscream, grabbing hold of him so Prime and Megatron can have a clear shot.

Now comes one of the top five moments in the series: Megatron turns into a gun. Yes, not only does this Megatron have a gun mode, but he's a triple changer. There's something for everyone to enjoy. I seriously, SERIOUSLY, love this Megatron.
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Awesome!

Prime arms himself with Megatron, taking that one final shot at Starscream, destroying him.

Optimus checks on Windblade, and is surprised to learn she's still alive. Megatron approaches with the (somehow still intact) enigma of Combination. Seriously though, if an explosion of that caliber couldn't destroy it, I find it unlikely that anything Optimus or Megatron could do would. But then again, maybe Windblade can pull out another Dues Ex Machina magic power and destroy it single-handedly.

Megatron, Prime and Windblade have a quick conversation about what to do with the Enigma, and Megatron literally mentions how he's "more than meets the eye", as the entire audience participates in a collective eye roll.

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Har har har

It's decided (by pretty much just Windblade) that the Enigma belongs to the combiners, and it's presented to Victorion. She does this weird chest-merge thing with it, sort of like the Matrix of Leadership, but more gross.

The council finally reappears for one last time, just long enough for Windblade to tell them that the Titan's have returned.

But then! Just when you thought it was over, we're teased with a shot of what is presumably Fort Max's head. Yep. Seriously.

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Pfft. As if.

Well, I'm sure we'll be seeing that half a year after the Titan's Return toy line ends.

And that's it. That's the end. Of the whole thing. Some final, final thoughts:

I'd like to look at pros first before I get to my usual thoughts, because I feel that the good things about this series have been kind of trampled by the band wagon hate. I'd like to bring some of those good things to a greater light.

Pros:

The art style:
Although it does occasionally have its problems, the animation and art style are very visually pleasing, and have a great feel to them. The character models are new, but inspired, and suit each character well. I know it's very attractive to many fans to have toys that look like they just came off the screen, and vice versa. This delivers tenfold in that front. You almost couldn't get closer in some cases.
The color pallets used are very attractive, rich, and occasionally stunning.
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Like this! I want this framed!

It's very beautiful sometimes, and is a highlight of the series. I wish it would have given us some more landscape shots, where this could have really shined.

Another positive would be most of the voice acting. Megatron, Starscream and Prime are done extreme justice here, and Rodimus and The Mistress of Flame are good most of the time, save for one or two lines here and there. I also don't mind the voice of Metroplex, Devastator, or Victorion. These are all well done, and, as I've said, did great with what they were given to work with.

Speaking of Megatron, I'm not exaggerating when I say that if this isn't one of my favorite incarnations of the character, it's by far the most interesting. I love every aspect of him. He's voiced perfectly, his personality is spot on, and his triple-changer ability satisfies the TankknotGuun camp and the GuunnotTankk camp, which, in my experience, is pretty damn near impossible. Boy, Machinima, you got a lot of things wrong but when you get something right you get it right!
Outstanding job. A+.

And that brings me to my thoughts. I don't hate this series. I don't. I just don't like it, either. The middle of the series was enjoyable, good, above par, even by standards set outside of the series. But the beginning was an absolute train wreck, and the ending was a textbook Dues Ex Machina situation. I feel that if it had just done a handful of things differently, it could have been unprecedentedly good. And hey, maybe if a Titan's Return series does happen, they'll take some of the criticism in stride and make it what I know it has the potential to be.


And that is it. All eight episodes, all eight weeks. I have to say that while the programme wasn't always enjoyable, these reviews were. I hope that you all had as much fun reading them as I had writing them. And while the Combiner Wars have indeed ended, who knows, maybe I'll review Another series some day. Thanks for reading my rants and rambles, it's been a ride, for sure, and a pleasure!

Wanna relive the journey? All of the episodes are available now for free on Go90 and Machinima's YouTube channel.

And, as always, thank you for keeping it tuned to seibertron.com, your best source for Transformers news (and reviews!) on the net!

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Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827502)
Posted by MaverickPrime on September 23rd, 2016 @ 1:39am CDT
Like you, I don't hate the series, just disliked it...what I hated with a passion was the wasted potential and the Titan-sized hype they wanted us to have for a product that, to me at least, feels rushed or unfinished or something along those lines, maybe the budget was cut or there were last-minute script changes or SOMETHING! Because there's a very noticeable inconsistency in the goods and the bads.
And yes, I really liked this Megatron, Starscream voice was nice when he wasn't screaming, because you used the perfect words for his description: tormented demon baby :shock:
I seriously cringed badly at that.
But to me, the highlight of this series was undoubtedly the fact that Jon Bailey is FINALLY an official Optimus Prime voice actor! :APPLAUSE:
I just wish he had debuted in a better series :(
Also, the hell??? Was it me or did they treat the combiners as a race and not a team of combined cybertronians?
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827503)
Posted by fenrir72 on September 23rd, 2016 @ 2:06am CDT
@ Bronzewolf.

Excellent neutral/fair take on the series. 'nuff said.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827508)
Posted by Kurona on September 23rd, 2016 @ 3:16am CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:Also, the hell??? Was it me or did they treat the combiners as a race and not a team of combined cybertronians?

It wasn't just you.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827513)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on September 23rd, 2016 @ 3:41am CDT
Kurona wrote:
MaverickPrime wrote:Also, the hell??? Was it me or did they treat the combiners as a race and not a team of combined cybertronians?

It wasn't just you.
Sadly, the series' inability to treat any of their components as characters was probably just an inevitable result of the short runtime, and the fact that it was CG. Now, I REALLY do like the look of this series, but multiple gestalts meant full individual models for each bot composing them was prohibitively expensive, and even if it was ol' 2D animation, the economy of characters would've never allowed development for more than one on each team. Just thinking of that gives me more bad Energon flashbacks, since that's probably the reason no CG series before or since had very much combining. No matter how good the writers were, that was an insurmountable problem from the get-go.

Someday, I'd like to see a TF series spend a season structured like the Cybertron cartoon, but with the object of the search on different colony worlds being to find every combiner necessary to form some ancient super gestalt who's the only hope to defeat the big-bad-whatever. Maybe an update of the Multiforce so they could do some dual combining action before they all unite for the grand finale. Has any TF story come closer to this than the Breast Force in the first half of Victory?

And on Windblade just blowing away the Unicron Singularity...has no one else ever heard that "Hairdryer-Man" song? Someone has to find that PBS recording and synch it to that scene. This series is going to be edited into a LOT of youtube parodies, and that desperately needs to be one of them!
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827516)
Posted by Kurona on September 23rd, 2016 @ 3:50am CDT
Bumblevivisector wrote:Someday, I'd like to see a TF series spend a season structured like the Cybertron cartoon, but with the object of the search on different colony worlds being to find every combiner necessary to form some ancient super gestalt who's the only hope to defeat the big-bad-whatever. Maybe an update of the Multiforce so they could do some dual combining action before they all unite for the grand finale. Has any TF story come closer to this than the Breast Force in the first half of Victory?

There was Nexus Prime in the Timelines stories.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827540)
Posted by Galactic Prime on September 23rd, 2016 @ 6:30am CDT
This series was complete garbage from start to finish.

The only good thing about it was the animation.

The voice acting was by a bunch of half ass, no talent youtubers and the story was like something a 2 year old wrote.

It was a huge disappointment.

Total shit beginning to end.

Glad it's over, let's hope Hasbro NEVER makes this mistake again.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827554)
Posted by Microraptor on September 23rd, 2016 @ 8:22am CDT
I like that Starscream was defeated by Optimus and Megatron working in tandem. That's a really smart idea. Other than that, this episode had nothing good.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827558)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2016 @ 8:32am CDT
Microraptor wrote:I like that Starscream was defeated by Optimus and Megatron working in tandem. That's a really smart idea.
One that's been done before (in the exact same way, even) in a much better story that I highly recommend to everyone.

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Actually, the more I think about it, this show's climax feels more and more like it ripped off the climax of THAT story! Starscream merges with a superweapon to become an all-powerful form that threatens to destroy everything and everyone, even producing a black hole as a weapon, and needed to be stopped by a team-up between Optimus and Megatron, in which the former in robot mode uses the latter in gun mode to blast Starscream into oblivion.

They couldn't even be bothered to come up with their own unique climax that they had to rip off the one from a much better story!!! :BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD: :BOOM: :BOOM:
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827589)
Posted by o.supreme on September 23rd, 2016 @ 10:04am CDT
I don't know...that is pretty much the exact same thing, but I just don't think the writers of this show are that well researched in TF lore to go looking up a Manga...then again, maybe they were banking on western fans having never read that...and copied it exactly. Its The Lion King all over again. :lol:
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827693)
Posted by King Kuuga on September 23rd, 2016 @ 2:06pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:They couldn't even be bothered to come up with their own unique climax that they had to rip off the one from a much better story!!! :BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD: :BOOM: :BOOM:

You think the writers of this show, who don't seem exceptionally versed in Transformers mythology, ripped off an obscure manga that most TF fans haven't even heard of?

Galactic Prime wrote:The voice acting was by a bunch of half ass, no talent youtubers

Whoah there pal. The voice acting was one of the high points of this show. We went over this at the beginning and during the show's run, being primarily from YouTube doesn't mean they aren't skilled or ready for a more professional production like this. Their performances were fine, many people are even praising Jason Marmocha as Megatron and of course our venerable Jon Bailey as Prime. There were a few questionable vocal choices (the totally not-imposing Menasor and Metroplex) but otherwise the acting was one of the better elements.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827704)
Posted by Bronzewolf on September 23rd, 2016 @ 2:30pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:
The voice acting was by a bunch of half ass, no talent youtubers

Meanwhile Jon Bailey (Optimus prime) Is a professional voice actor who has done countless ads for many gigantic multinational companies.

Just because they're on YouTube or do YouTube as a hobby doesn't mean they aren't professional.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827707)
Posted by Kurona on September 23rd, 2016 @ 2:33pm CDT
Yeah, that's pretty disrespectful. Regardless of whether they did a good job or not - and honestly, the voice acting in parts was one of the few things done well - you should still be courteous and respect their profession rather than labelling them as, essentially, random people off the street.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827781)
Posted by Burn on September 23rd, 2016 @ 5:25pm CDT
So I'm late to the party as I may have sub-consciously been putting off watching the last episode.

In the beginning I thought "once I've watched all the episodes, I'll go back and watch them all in one sitting so it feels like one big story"

I won't be doing that.

The animation was fine. Some of the voices were great, while others, particularly Starscream, I'll be happy to NEVER hear again.

Story wise, by the end it just seemed to be ANOTHER story to shove Windblade down our collective throats and establish her as this all powerful being and major part of the mythology.

Not to mention the last 30 seconds basically turned the entire series into a prequel/advert for Titans Return, which would explain why we got it NOW and not during the CW run.

Overall ... enjoyed the CGI, I would like to see a series done this way. I'd like to see (hear) some of the voice actors return, but what's really needed is some decent writing, budget and time constraints were clearly a burden with this series. But the potential to build and improve is there.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1827820)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2016 @ 7:40pm CDT
King Kuuga wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:They couldn't even be bothered to come up with their own unique climax that they had to rip off the one from a much better story!!! :BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD: :BOOM: :BOOM:

You think the writers of this show, who don't seem exceptionally versed in Transformers mythology, ripped off an obscure manga that most TF fans haven't even heard of?
No. I was upset at the time and just venting.

But you gotta admit, it is a pretty scary coincidence how similar the climax of this show was to climax of that manga, right down to some very strikingly similar details. But, yeah, the manga is pretty obscure and the two do still have their differences (the biggest being that that manga was amazingly good while this show was just the opposite).
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1828509)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 25th, 2016 @ 11:34pm CDT
Another one of those jokey photocomics, this time for the final episode:

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Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1828512)
Posted by .... on September 25th, 2016 @ 11:55pm CDT
King Kuuga wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:The voice acting was by a bunch of half ass, no talent youtubers

Whoah there pal. The voice acting was one of the high points of this show. We went over this at the beginning and during the show's run, being primarily from YouTube doesn't mean they aren't skilled or ready for a more professional production like this. Their performances were fine, many people are even praising Jason Marmocha as Megatron and of course our venerable Jon Bailey as Prime. There were a few questionable vocal choices (the totally not-imposing Menasor and Metroplex) but otherwise the acting was one of the better elements.


Yeah it takes a lot of skill to do an Optimus Prime voice. Same goes for Starscream (which I can do), and Megs.

The thing that bummed me out was that this show started out actually pretty well in the first episode. They had a great setup! Menasor and Computron fighting in space, Menasor's "ZERO" line, and that was about it. All of the stuff up to that was amazing. If they had just done everything ELSE different, then it would've been cooler! (Maybe even have- oh, I don't know, maybe made it actual COMBINER WARS? I mean come on. Having only a few combiners and them only showing up for a few seconds doesn't cut it.)

This is how it should've been:

-Instead of Optimus Prime sillily being by himself and finding Windblade by random chance as she is about to shoot the combiney doodad (I can't even remember the name. That's how much I care), they should've had Optimus Prime with his four wave-mates from the toyline; Prowl, Ironhide, Sunstreaker, and Mirage; and they should've been going around as some adventure team or something. Windblade being greeted by all of them would've been awesome.

-There should've been combiners actually fighting each-other for more of the show. There should've also been a whole lot more carnage from the combiners. This thing shouldn't have been called "Combiner Wars" and should've been called "Combiner Wars Could be a Possible Threat so Let's Stop It" instead.

-In the end, instead of Starscream actually being evil, what SHOULD'VE happened is Starscream actually WAS trying to make up for his past sins, and the combiney doodad just got to his head and made him lose his mind or something. Then he should've made some sort of blast that maybe caused Optimus and the four Autobot wave-mates to, I dunno, maybe become combineable and turn into Optimus Maximus??? That may've not made an extreme amount of sense, but it would've at LEAST looked awesome! Also, Starscream should've stayed in that giant combiner form and fought Optimus Maximus instead of blowing up and becoming a screaming head.

I could point out a few other changes, but my post is long enough already.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1828544)
Posted by Kurona on September 26th, 2016 @ 7:02am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Another one of those jokey photocomics, this time for the final episode:

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Hey, hey! Don't lump this on Crosscut. He deserves better :(
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1828554)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 26th, 2016 @ 8:07am CDT
Kurona wrote:Hey, hey! Don't lump this on Crosscut. He deserves better :(
Not my doing. I just found the comic.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1828571)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 26th, 2016 @ 8:41am CDT
I'm sure i read somewhere that someone has merged all of them together :-? so that it plays as just one episode, it's prob on Youtube by now....or something
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 8 FINALE REVIEW (1829544)
Posted by YRQRM0 on September 29th, 2016 @ 6:20pm CDT
Just finished this. It felt like something I would've made up and acted out playing with my figures as a kid, so I really did enjoy it from that standpoint. Far from a serious venture though.

Also, I agree a lot of the voice acting was not great. Windblade and Starscream were definitely nice though, and I thought Megatron was kind of cool, not just because of the acting, but the overall demeanor of the character felt a little bit different than what I'm used to in general.

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