MakeToys Giant Series Excavator and Bulldozer Pictorial Review
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Posted by Nemesis Destron on January 28th, 2012 @ 4:22pm CST
Posted by BeastProwl on January 28th, 2012 @ 4:25pm CST
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Posted by Delicon on January 28th, 2012 @ 4:27pm CST
Posted by El Duque on January 28th, 2012 @ 4:28pm CST
BeastProwl wrote:Id'e still like it (A Little) Better, if it were green.
(Repaint )
The green version is happening.
Posted by El Duque on January 28th, 2012 @ 4:44pm CST
Delicon wrote:Am I the only one who is less than impressed with all this 3rd party Devastator stuff? Even if it was regular retail, not sure I'd be rushing out the door to grab it.
Considering this is the alternative, yes.
Posted by AutobotCliffjumper on January 28th, 2012 @ 4:58pm CST
Posted by stangatron on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:02pm CST
Posted by donnie_707 on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:03pm CST
Posted by Mkall on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:04pm CST
Posted by donnie_707 on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:05pm CST
Posted by El Duque on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:14pm CST
donnie_707 wrote:^ yeesh that thing is hideous el duque. yea...lets keep the 3rd party devys coming eh
Agreed, but let's give Devy a break. Let's move on to the other G1 combiners, can't wait to see what FansProject has in store for us with their Stunticons!
What's really frustrating about these is there's nothing special about them in terms of engineering. I just completed Hercules earlier this week, and while he's an amazing figure all the designs are rather simple. Has/Tak could have pumped these things out no problem at $20.00 a pop, but for some reason they continue to feed us the "modern combiners are too complicated" line. Better come up with a better excuse guys, these prove otherwise.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:21pm CST
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:32pm CST
El Duque wrote:Can't wait to see what FansProject has in store for us with their Stunticons!
Wait, Fansproject Stunticons? when were these announced?!
Posted by El Duque on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:39pm CST
cannonfodder4000 wrote:El Duque wrote:Can't wait to see what FansProject has in store for us with their Stunticons!
Wait, Fansproject Stunticons? when were these announced?!
It hasn't been announced, but it's heavily rumored.
Posted by Scaleface on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:50pm CST
Posted by craggy on January 28th, 2012 @ 5:53pm CST
Bodes well for the green Giant. ho ho ho.
Posted by rpetras on January 28th, 2012 @ 7:26pm CST
Not as bad as I thought it might be, but still pretty bad.
The arm kibble on Scrapper always was a deal breaker for me.
I just find it lazy design.
If Hercules didn't exist, it might be another story, but it does, so ....
Other than that the bot modes are pretty nice.
I actually like the yellow. Not enough to pay $120+ for the pair.
If these were a retail release, I'd buy a yellow set.
I've always said it this set isn't bad, it just pales in comparison IMO to Herc.
Herc was worth the price tag, these are not.
Posted by DTR69 on January 28th, 2012 @ 8:09pm CST
El Duque wrote:Delicon wrote:Am I the only one who is less than impressed with all this 3rd party Devastator stuff? Even if it was regular retail, not sure I'd be rushing out the door to grab it.
Considering this is the alternative, yes.
What I don't get is that people actual;ly bought this, and I know everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but seriously this is where I throw that notion out the window, I don't respect anyone who defends designs like this, it's patronising, and there's not even the G2 aspect of it's so hideous it's kool, i used to collect thos eporrly designed hooker cards in phone box's, I'm a graphic designer and the way they were designed brakes all the rules, and the fcat that the girl in the pic was probaly not the girl who's being advertised was one of those unbeleivable things of it shouldn't work but it does. G2 is patronising becuase of the way they thought bright colours and graphics plastered all over over advertising the toy would fool kids into buying an old toy repoackaged.
It took me a while to appreciate why people liked G2 but understanding that it wa sfo rthe reasons I hate them makes me understand the fondness people have for them. To me shattered glass is todays G2, it's a dumb idea and a forced story to recolour toys, and an over complicate dway of doing it, all it is making the goodies the baddies, but what made me hat eit was one little thing, why does shattered glass optimus prime have physical shattered glass. As I'm a designer and am trained to think conceptualy and sometimes what seems a good idea at the time actually isn't. When I see soemthing like that it makes me doubt the credibility of there designers they have and the whole thought process behind it. Fansproject on the other hand have a really good team, the way they put there own spin on things is really of a high standard, there city commander head sculpt is amazing, it's not G1 accurate but that would of been easy, they have modernised it in there own style, the G1 head sculpt wouldn't of suited the overall design aswell as the one they did, you have to give them props. This is what make sme hate Hasbro so much, that combiner is a true monster and it's up to Fansproject to make ther esuperion and bruticus worth buying.
I'm not against Transformers with designs that break the norm, look at early G1, shockwave with 1 eye and a gun for a hand, but it was done on a mature way and not for a crazy funky effect, look at todays minicons with one eyes, they almost look like pirates or cyborgs from B movies.
Back on topic these 2 yellow devastator figures look really good, and I like the whole figure combined especially the outline, he looks more beefy than the other 3rd part offering, but the green one has some great features, I like the way the forearms are made from the actual figure rather than add ons, and the design is different enough to make both worth having. Why do hasbro think that something like this would be less appealing than what they have given us, and why do they take amazing designs like Unicron and give him see through parts like a flashing gay hand. Alternators prove they can produce complicated figures that hold up well, so larger figures will hold up eve beter, they sell big figures all the time so this would sell. MO prime sold well, so much so they reissued him, so G1 style can make money, and there offkey interpretations are just good for warming shelves.
What makes the situation worse is that a this sort of figure is a no brainer, hasbro should of done this ages ago, in fact a new g1 shockwave and Galvatron are going to make big moiney for who ever gets there first, the same goes with a dinobot range, it's so obvious it can make anyone with any sense go mad. And those people who bought hasbros devastator you are the people that fuekl hasbro's silly way of thinking, and the more you buy these stupid designs the more they will make.
Posted by griftimus prime on January 28th, 2012 @ 8:11pm CST
Posted by Rated X on January 28th, 2012 @ 8:40pm CST
Posted by DTR69 on January 28th, 2012 @ 10:06pm CST
griftimus prime wrote:make a predaking please.
That would be nice, doesn't quite have the following, but would definently be a good choice. I don't know why figures for characters that never had toys made like supe megatron or what ever his name was. [Thats the G1 reborn Megatron from the Japanese Manga comics]
Posted by Oilspill on January 28th, 2012 @ 11:09pm CST
Now if Maketoys had turned their talents to a combiner that hadn't been done yet, like Defensor or Computron or Abominus, I'd be all over these. Leokaiser would be great too, since most people don't own a G1 Leokaiser it would be a great opportunity for many collectors.
Anyway, this gives me confidence in their abilities and I'm looking forward to their next project. I just wish 3rd parties would stop re-treading the same ground as each other.
Posted by tmk9883 on January 29th, 2012 @ 12:20am CST
Posted by AutobotCliffjumper on January 29th, 2012 @ 3:54am CST
EDIT: tfsource announced that a pre-order should be coming soon!
Posted by Mykltron on January 29th, 2012 @ 5:39am CST
The shoulder articulation on the gestalt is still going to be limited unless the sockets are on pivots or these two can be miss-transformed somehow.
Posted by Geekee1 on January 29th, 2012 @ 8:50am CST
Posted by StillPlayswToys on January 29th, 2012 @ 9:42am CST
Posted by First-Aid on January 29th, 2012 @ 11:34am CST
Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.
Posted by AutobotCliffjumper on January 29th, 2012 @ 11:59am CST
First-Aid wrote:SO these figs are coming in two packs? What is the cost on them?
Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.
From what I've heard, it will be about $140 for a two pack and there are 3 sets. So 6 figures are appoximately $420?
Posted by First-Aid on January 29th, 2012 @ 12:16pm CST
AutobotCliffjumper wrote:First-Aid wrote:SO these figs are coming in two packs? What is the cost on them?
Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.
From what I've heard, it will be about $140 for a two pack and there are 3 sets. So 6 figures are appoximately $420?
So, $420 for figures that are roughly half the size of Hercules? That is significantly disappointing.
Posted by craggy on January 29th, 2012 @ 12:24pm CST
AutobotCliffjumper wrote:First-Aid wrote:SO these figs are coming in two packs? What is the cost on them?
Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.
From what I've heard, it will be about $140 for a two pack and there are 3 sets. So 6 figures are appoximately $420?
well, where I usually buy from it's £100 for a Giant 2pack or £70 for a single member of Hercules. Not a difficult decision for me, monetarily speaking. I am holding out for the green Giant gift-set though, so hoping it'll not be any more expensive than the combined price of the 2 packs.
Posted by Sodan-1 on January 29th, 2012 @ 1:07pm CST
First-Aid wrote:So, $420 for figures that are roughly half the size of Hercules? That is significantly disappointing.
While MakeToy's figures are smaller than TFC's, saying they're "roughly half the size" is kind of selling them short. TFC's figures are small voyager sized, while what we've seen so far suggests MakeToy's are medium to small deluxe sized.
I'm very happy with TFC's figures as my Classics Constructicons, but if I'm able to scrape together enough money I'd certainly pick this set up just for the hell of it (a reason that doesn't usually fly with me).
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on January 29th, 2012 @ 1:34pm CST
Oilspill wrote:These look really good, but I don't need them. I already have Hercules (which I still like more).
Now if Maketoys had turned their talents to a combiner that hadn't been done yet, like Defensor or Computron or Abominus, I'd be all over these. Leokaiser would be great too, since most people don't own a G1 Leokaiser it would be a great opportunity for many collectors.
Anyway, this gives me confidence in their abilities and I'm looking forward to their next project. I just wish 3rd parties would stop re-treading the same ground as each other.
This. it's nice... but I'll be completing Hercules this week.
Posted by AutobotCliffjumper on January 29th, 2012 @ 1:36pm CST
First-Aid wrote:AutobotCliffjumper wrote:First-Aid wrote:SO these figs are coming in two packs? What is the cost on them?
Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.
From what I've heard, it will be about $140 for a two pack and there are 3 sets. So 6 figures are appoximately $420?
So, $420 for figures that are roughly half the size of Hercules? That is significantly disappointing.
I think you might be under estimating Giant if you sear for size comparisons for both Hercules and Giant you will see that they are compared with Primus and RTS Laser Prime...here is a picture for reference.
Here is my picture comparison of Primus and RTS Laser Prime:
Primus's head is about the same height as Hercules's head and Giant is a little over 2 RTS Laser Primes tall (counting the top of the shoulders). As you can see, he is clearly not "roughly half the size". I just took the picture while rushing out the door, so Laser Prime is not as close to Primus as I wanted him to be. Anyways, I think I'm going for Giant #1 for the price and #2 because I like the beefy chest and visor.
Posted by kirbenvost on January 29th, 2012 @ 2:35pm CST
Posted by Stormrider on January 29th, 2012 @ 3:47pm CST
Rated X wrote:I think im gonna pass on the figures, but I do want to try that Japanese "Fire" beer !!!
Haha... That's not beer. That's Japanese coffee in a can, and I recommend staying away from it.
I am concerned about Bonecrusher's forearms. They look fragile with plastic only on two sides?
Posted by NTESHFT on January 29th, 2012 @ 8:57pm CST
Posted by MINDVVIPE on January 29th, 2012 @ 9:00pm CST
headsortails wrote:Giant is not "half the size" of Hercules....... in fact it was not nearly that much of a difference in size. From what I have see, Giant is as tall as Bruticus........
You are correct. And I still maintain that Giant looks way better than Herc. Its just that some of the individual figures are a bit less exciting aesthetically. But I mean... the combined form is what matters most here.
Posted by donnie_707 on January 29th, 2012 @ 10:31pm CST
headsortails wrote:Wasn't there a size comparison thread on here not too long ago? If the pic that was on that thread was correct, Giant is not "half the size" of Hercules....... in fact it was not nearly that much of a difference in size. From what I have see, Giant is as tall as Bruticus........
not much of a size difference? dont know if youve seen any comparison pics but herc TOWERS over bruticus......and giant is only the same size as brut? aesthetically i prefer herc over giant.....i just cant get over giants head being buried so deep inside his shoulders and chest. giant is awesome in his own right....but IMO, herc is the superior of the 2
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on January 29th, 2012 @ 11:04pm CST
I don't get why they didn't just make all the eyes red.
Posted by alexison on January 29th, 2012 @ 11:25pm CST
Posted by El Duque on January 30th, 2012 @ 12:26am CST
Posted by MINDVVIPE on January 30th, 2012 @ 12:58am CST
Posted by Kibble on January 30th, 2012 @ 10:13am CST
As for size, it appears Herc is probably about an inch and a half taller head to toe than Giant will be, but going by their highest natural points (not counting optional positioning of the crane or blade on Herc) it looks to be less than an inch...maybe only half an inch. Herc does look to be more 'beefy', but it doesn't look like he'll tower over Giant. In other words, too much seems to be made over the size difference...
Posted by NTESHFT on January 30th, 2012 @ 3:02pm CST
donnie_707 wrote:headsortails wrote:Wasn't there a size comparison thread on here not too long ago? If the pic that was on that thread was correct, Giant is not "half the size" of Hercules....... in fact it was not nearly that much of a difference in size. From what I have see, Giant is as tall as Bruticus........
not much of a size difference? dont know if youve seen any comparison pics but herc TOWERS over bruticus......and giant is only the same size as brut? aesthetically i prefer herc over giant.....i just cant get over giants head being buried so deep inside his shoulders and chest. giant is awesome in his own right....but IMO, herc is the superior of the 2
No.... there isn't that much a size difference. There were pics posted of them together. Herc may be only about an inch and a 1/2 taller. That isn't "towering" over Bruticus.........
Posted by metaphorge on January 30th, 2012 @ 3:17pm CST
Um... the height difference is kind of like the difference between a Voyager and a Deluxe (unless you're wanting to count highest point to highest point; I'm looking at the comparison of eye levels)....headsortails wrote:No.... there isn't that much a size difference. There were pics posted of them together. Herc may be only about an inch and a 1/2 taller. That isn't "towering" over Bruticus.........
Posted by Kibble on January 30th, 2012 @ 3:45pm CST
Posted by metaphorge on January 30th, 2012 @ 3:47pm CST
Yeah, I figure the difference isn't all that great between Giant and Herc, but there is quite a difference between Herc and Bruticus.Kibble wrote:Giant is taller than Bruticus. Giant should come up to about the top of Herc's chest.
Posted by Gurgintius Maximus on January 30th, 2012 @ 4:48pm CST
I hold no ill feelings tward this set and I get preferring them for scale reasons or whatnot but I am sitting here looking a Herc and viewing Giants pics, and there is a huge difference in ...class, for lack of a better term at the moment.
These guys are not more G1 nor do they appear to be of better quality. While a nice set in their own right, Herc is without question the gold standard. To say otherwise is wishfull thinking at best and compensating for not picking the right horse at worst.
They are cheaper for a reason and its not because MT is doing folks a solid.
If you are still on the fence with this get Herc cause I swear, pics simply do not do him justice.
He is 5 kinds of epic
Really not trying to flame MT version here, just case closed as far as I am concerned having final product in hand.
And yes I realize I cant say that about Giant but I really was consitering getting both and have absolutely no desire to anymore. This guy is flawless.
Posted by alternator77 on January 30th, 2012 @ 5:31pm CST
whats getting annoying is all these damn pics and little to no preorders.
if maketoys wants this to work they need to move more than a few units and that will happen when they stop sending one or two sets and get this up for order.
supposedly tf source will be getting these po's up soon at least thats what their fb page says....i wont hold my breath