Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview
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There has been a lot of misinformation regarding the future of the Transformers film franchise and while people are quick to claim it is due to the film producer, director or "Hasbro" going back and forth, the real culprit seems to be misleading headlines in articles. Sometimes, in the hope of garnering views, an entertainment news site will opt for a very eye catching title but the problem is that many will simply look at the title and not read the article, which can quickly spread misinformation. This is happening a lot recently with Transformers movie news, like the time sites claimed "Hasbro" confirmed the Bumblebee film was a reboot. Sadly, anyone reading the articles would see that there was no quote from any Hasbro representative using the word "reboot" when describing Bumblebee. The sites didn't even care to name any specific individual credited to have said anything on the matter. It was just assumptions and people's interpretations that kept being passed on. Nothing concrete, unlike what any headline announced.
I mention all that because the community and news sites are at it again. Recently, Lorenzo di Bonaventura stated that there is currently a script being done for the next film in the Transformers live action franchise, one that would come after Transformers: The Last Knight. This prompted many sites to state that The last Knight was getting a sequel. While I can see the logic of that interpretation, all di Bonaventura said was that there would be another film, not that the specific storyline established in a previous film would be continued.
Basically, the next big Transformers film would come after The last Knight just like Age of Extinction came after Dark of the Moon. Set in the present, in the established live action universe, but with no real connection to past stories (which is par for the course in Transformers live action films when you think about it).
That is why when we are presented with the short interview below, where di Bonaventura answers "no" when asked by Slash Film if the next script picks up where The Last Knight left off, it fits perfectly well with all that was said. Not just by him, but by Brian Goldner, over a year ago at the 2018 Toy fair, when we were told that past stories would be dropped going forward and that a new team at Paramount was to oversee the future films.
So while we would love to be reporting you actual news, saying that the next big Transformers film will not be picking up elements from where the Last Knight left off is something we were told a long time ago.
We do have some other news though, in the same interview, di Bonaventura stated that Michael Bay would not be returning as director for upcoming Transformers films. However, this would also be par for the course as we have been told time and time again that Michael Bay was done with the franchise and yet he would still come back. Right now, all we know is that any upcoming Transformers film (either taking place in the past or present) is still at the scripting phase and there is no director attached.
Here is the latest quick interview:
I mention all that because the community and news sites are at it again. Recently, Lorenzo di Bonaventura stated that there is currently a script being done for the next film in the Transformers live action franchise, one that would come after Transformers: The Last Knight. This prompted many sites to state that The last Knight was getting a sequel. While I can see the logic of that interpretation, all di Bonaventura said was that there would be another film, not that the specific storyline established in a previous film would be continued.
Basically, the next big Transformers film would come after The last Knight just like Age of Extinction came after Dark of the Moon. Set in the present, in the established live action universe, but with no real connection to past stories (which is par for the course in Transformers live action films when you think about it).
That is why when we are presented with the short interview below, where di Bonaventura answers "no" when asked by Slash Film if the next script picks up where The Last Knight left off, it fits perfectly well with all that was said. Not just by him, but by Brian Goldner, over a year ago at the 2018 Toy fair, when we were told that past stories would be dropped going forward and that a new team at Paramount was to oversee the future films.
So while we would love to be reporting you actual news, saying that the next big Transformers film will not be picking up elements from where the Last Knight left off is something we were told a long time ago.
We do have some other news though, in the same interview, di Bonaventura stated that Michael Bay would not be returning as director for upcoming Transformers films. However, this would also be par for the course as we have been told time and time again that Michael Bay was done with the franchise and yet he would still come back. Right now, all we know is that any upcoming Transformers film (either taking place in the past or present) is still at the scripting phase and there is no director attached.
Here is the latest quick interview:
For the next Transformers are you looking for new directors or hoping you can still make Michael Bay an offer?
I think Bay has made it really clear that he loved what he did and he’s not doing anymore. So I think the answer is we’re writing a script. At that point, once we get script we have a strong belief in, then we’ll begin to debate that. Michael’s made it really clear that he didn’t want to do it. I don’t blame him. He spent a hell of a lot, a decade of his life, shooting them.
Are you developing a script that picks up where The Last Knight left off?
No.
Credit(s): slash film
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Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2018312)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 7th, 2019 @ 11:46pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 7th, 2019 @ 11:46pm CDT
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2018314)
Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2019 @ 11:48pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2019 @ 11:48pm CDT
Thanks Sabr!
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2018440)
Posted by Lucky Logician on April 8th, 2019 @ 10:36pm CDT
Posted by Lucky Logician on April 8th, 2019 @ 10:36pm CDT
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2018697)
Posted by noctorro on April 11th, 2019 @ 12:57am CDT
Posted by noctorro on April 11th, 2019 @ 12:57am CDT
Clapping so much, much much.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050744)
Posted by william-james88 on January 27th, 2020 @ 8:44pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 27th, 2020 @ 8:44pm CST
We had a whole fanfare of upcoming movie news for a while until everyone was burnt out of the unreliable nature of the news (even though it was coming from the producer) to the point that most movie news sites chose to just stop reporting anything unless there was something truly concrete. Well, we actually have some concrete news now. We learn through Variety that two script writers are currently writing two different scripts that are meant to become the next Transformers films in the franchise. Variety states that these two films are in active development. One of the scripts is written by Joby Harold who wrote the Guy Ritchie King Arthur film, and who also wrote the script for the DCEU Flash film Warner Bros has yet to deliver. The other script is written by James Vanderbilt whose most recent films are the Adam Sandler Netflix movie Murder Mystery, The Meg and Independence Day Resurgence.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050748)
Posted by TulioDude on January 27th, 2020 @ 8:53pm CST
Posted by TulioDude on January 27th, 2020 @ 8:53pm CST
I was wondering if any of the crew of Bumblebee would return.
Hopefully these new guys to the Franchise deliver a nice story.
Day 27 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Hopefully these new guys to the Franchise deliver a nice story.
Day 27 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050751)
Posted by Quantum Surge on January 27th, 2020 @ 9:01pm CST
Posted by Quantum Surge on January 27th, 2020 @ 9:01pm CST
I wish that the image was used officially. Looks very nice, what with the two eras in the Movie continuity being presented.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050760)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on January 27th, 2020 @ 10:51pm CST
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on January 27th, 2020 @ 10:51pm CST
From what I know of the DC movies so far, and of Independance day resurgance and the meg, those are not writing credits that make me feel good. But I didn't watch those movies either, and I'm just going by hear-say to tell me they were bad, so I want to be wrong.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050761)
Posted by Stargrave on January 27th, 2020 @ 10:57pm CST
Posted by Stargrave on January 27th, 2020 @ 10:57pm CST
I think Travis Knight has only directed Kubo and the Two Strings before you never know sometimes you hit it out of the park. At least they have some credits. Just tryin’ to see the positives here. Bumblebee II ASAP please. Can’t wait!
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050775)
Posted by TFIta369 on January 28th, 2020 @ 3:23am CST
Hehe, why 27? I'm all in for Armada MPs too.
Posted by TFIta369 on January 28th, 2020 @ 3:23am CST
TulioDude wrote: Day 27 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Hehe, why 27? I'm all in for Armada MPs too.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050784)
Posted by william-james88 on January 28th, 2020 @ 9:22am CST
Please keep that for the general MP thread.
Posted by william-james88 on January 28th, 2020 @ 9:22am CST
TulioDude wrote:Day 27 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Please keep that for the general MP thread.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050790)
Posted by TulioDude on January 28th, 2020 @ 10:22am CST
Posted by TulioDude on January 28th, 2020 @ 10:22am CST
I haven't seen James Vanderbilt work yet,but I believe Joby Harold has it in him,to create a great Transformers script.Look at this scene in King Arthur: Legend of The Sword:
Jude Law's perfomance is great,but you have to give credit to the writing,it's not hard to see a Decepticon leader giving this speech.
Jude Law's perfomance is great,but you have to give credit to the writing,it's not hard to see a Decepticon leader giving this speech.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050803)
Posted by Ig89ninja on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:34pm CST
Ok, that speech is chilling and totally perfect for a tyrant like Megatron or Starscream.
Posted by Ig89ninja on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:34pm CST
TulioDude wrote:I haven't seen James Vanderbilt work yet,but I believe Joby Harold has it in him,to create a great Transformers script.Look at this scene in King Arthur: Legend of The Sword:
Jude Law's perfomance is great,but you have to give credit to the writing,it's not hard to see a Decepticon leader giving this speech.
Ok, that speech is chilling and totally perfect for a tyrant like Megatron or Starscream.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050813)
Posted by Munkky on January 28th, 2020 @ 2:49pm CST
Posted by Munkky on January 28th, 2020 @ 2:49pm CST
The only James Vanderbilt films I've seen are The Amazing Spider-Man (which I didn't think very much of) and The Meg (which was decent enough, nothing fantastic but not bad either). If he truly is writing a Beast Wars film I'd be down for that, though I'm not expecting a masterpiece. I haven't seen King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, but haven't heard great things about it, so I'm not sure what to think about the writer tackling a Bumblebee sequel.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050814)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 28th, 2020 @ 2:58pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 28th, 2020 @ 2:58pm CST
Other sites are saying that this is a true reboot and that no one is coming back from any movie cast wise 
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050909)
Posted by megamanfan on January 29th, 2020 @ 7:56pm CST
Posted by megamanfan on January 29th, 2020 @ 7:56pm CST
oh man, if they go with a beast wars movie like i've heard, i can only speculate on what they'd do with it.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050922)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 29th, 2020 @ 10:11pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 29th, 2020 @ 10:11pm CST
I've said this before and I'll say it again: What made Beast Wars so good in the first place would likely never be recaptured by Hollywood.
With our luck, we'd end up with Optimus Primal throwing his feces at the camera while Megatron (voiced by a misdirected Sylvester Stallone) roars all of his dialogue (because he's a dinosaur, geddit?), while Cheetor (voiced by Owen Wilson) is the personal ride/pet/aide/sidekick/etc. of the movie's lead role who, for some reason, is an obnoxious human character played by a white male actor with a macho physique and a 'Murica! attitude.
With our luck, we'd end up with Optimus Primal throwing his feces at the camera while Megatron (voiced by a misdirected Sylvester Stallone) roars all of his dialogue (because he's a dinosaur, geddit?), while Cheetor (voiced by Owen Wilson) is the personal ride/pet/aide/sidekick/etc. of the movie's lead role who, for some reason, is an obnoxious human character played by a white male actor with a macho physique and a 'Murica! attitude.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050930)
Posted by noctorro on January 30th, 2020 @ 1:29am CST
Posted by noctorro on January 30th, 2020 @ 1:29am CST
Oh f**k no!
Omg, haven't they learned anything? The King Arthur writer? That film has practically no writing. That's the new guy?
And the other a freaking Adam Sandler movie? The Meg are you kidding me? Independence Day Resurgence, I do have that on blu ray but it's just a mindless conveluted (probably misspelled that, what I meant stacked on sh*t) mess of a movie with oh well f*ck it writing .
I had hopes for the new Transformers film, I saw somewhere (youtube so probably lies) that Bumblebee 2 will have Megatron in it and will be a full reboot scrapping the terrible Nascar dudebro, same plot every movie films. They'll probably also add a terrible soulless director who made a Justin Bieber movie or directed the Smurfs before this.
I'm sorry for being so grumpy but I'm starting to feel that Bumblebee was just a fluke in their idea of Transformers films and that they are course correcting back to embarassing nonsense.
You know there are good writers and director's out there. I heard (again youtube) that Christopher Nolan is going to I think direct the new Green Lantern movie. Now Nolan is too good for Transformers, I can see that. But please get half a decent writer and director to do this. The special effects are always A-Team, but man every thing else, what the hell.
Omg, haven't they learned anything? The King Arthur writer? That film has practically no writing. That's the new guy?
And the other a freaking Adam Sandler movie? The Meg are you kidding me? Independence Day Resurgence, I do have that on blu ray but it's just a mindless conveluted (probably misspelled that, what I meant stacked on sh*t) mess of a movie with oh well f*ck it writing .
I had hopes for the new Transformers film, I saw somewhere (youtube so probably lies) that Bumblebee 2 will have Megatron in it and will be a full reboot scrapping the terrible Nascar dudebro, same plot every movie films. They'll probably also add a terrible soulless director who made a Justin Bieber movie or directed the Smurfs before this.
I'm sorry for being so grumpy but I'm starting to feel that Bumblebee was just a fluke in their idea of Transformers films and that they are course correcting back to embarassing nonsense.
You know there are good writers and director's out there. I heard (again youtube) that Christopher Nolan is going to I think direct the new Green Lantern movie. Now Nolan is too good for Transformers, I can see that. But please get half a decent writer and director to do this. The special effects are always A-Team, but man every thing else, what the hell.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050931)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 30th, 2020 @ 3:52am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 30th, 2020 @ 3:52am CST
Let's not judge the writers too harshly till we see something tangible (okay I'm not thrilled at the idea of a Nolan Green Lantern but at the same time, I'll reserve judgement till I at least see a trailer, and find out which Green Lantern they'll be doing). Afterall nothing could come of these scripts in the end (and that's nothing to say what will remain of the original scripts once rewrites are done.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050983)
Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on January 30th, 2020 @ 8:47pm CST
Rewrites, directorial editing, studio exe editing, test screenings, further rewrites, reshoots, and edits before it hits theaters. ALL the THINGS that can ruin a movie; I mean look at what happened to the Dark Phoenix movie, and probably the New Mutants movie, it was heavily rewritten and had outside pressure of a studio sale.
A script's writer can't be discounted, but neither can it be counted upon, and the same with the director. All we as fans can hope for is that the people sitting in the writer/director/editor's chair actually care about the project and franchise behind it. That is what helped Bumblebee be(e?) great, and what helped make the Marvel movies great (Kevin Feige). IMO, we could almost dump di Bonaventura, and get a Feige like person to take command.
Anyway, this rant brought to you by the crap show that is the Last Knight being the only thing *worth* watching on TV right now...
Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on January 30th, 2020 @ 8:47pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Afterall nothing could come of these scripts in the end (and that's nothing to say what will remain of the original scripts once rewrites are done.
Rewrites, directorial editing, studio exe editing, test screenings, further rewrites, reshoots, and edits before it hits theaters. ALL the THINGS that can ruin a movie; I mean look at what happened to the Dark Phoenix movie, and probably the New Mutants movie, it was heavily rewritten and had outside pressure of a studio sale.
A script's writer can't be discounted, but neither can it be counted upon, and the same with the director. All we as fans can hope for is that the people sitting in the writer/director/editor's chair actually care about the project and franchise behind it. That is what helped Bumblebee be(e?) great, and what helped make the Marvel movies great (Kevin Feige). IMO, we could almost dump di Bonaventura, and get a Feige like person to take command.
Anyway, this rant brought to you by the crap show that is the Last Knight being the only thing *worth* watching on TV right now...
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2050988)
Posted by noctorro on January 31st, 2020 @ 12:41am CST
Aaah yess, I agree.
I've been watching Midnight's Edge a lot lately. My god what happens behind the scenes at the making of movies today, it's a massacre.
Posted by noctorro on January 31st, 2020 @ 12:41am CST
GeekyGamer Gal wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Afterall nothing could come of these scripts in the end (and that's nothing to say what will remain of the original scripts once rewrites are done.
Rewrites, directorial editing, studio exe editing, test screenings, further rewrites, reshoots, and edits before it hits theaters. ALL the THINGS that can ruin a movie; I mean look at what happened to the Dark Phoenix movie, and probably the New Mutants movie, it was heavily rewritten and had outside pressure of a studio sale.
A script's writer can't be discounted, but neither can it be counted upon, and the same with the director. All we as fans can hope for is that the people sitting in the writer/director/editor's chair actually care about the project and franchise behind it. That is what helped Bumblebee be(e?) great, and what helped make the Marvel movies great (Kevin Feige). IMO, we could almost dump di Bonaventura, and get a Feige like person to take command.
Anyway, this rant brought to you by the crap show that is the Last Knight being the only thing *worth* watching on TV right now...
Aaah yess, I agree.
I've been watching Midnight's Edge a lot lately. My god what happens behind the scenes at the making of movies today, it's a massacre.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2051011)
Posted by TulioDude on January 31st, 2020 @ 2:35pm CST
But didnt Bonaventura also produced Bumblebee?
Posted by TulioDude on January 31st, 2020 @ 2:35pm CST
IMO, we could almost dump di Bonaventura, and get a Feige like person to take command.
Anyway, this rant brought to you by the crap show that is the Last Knight being the only thing *worth* watching on TV right now...
But didnt Bonaventura also produced Bumblebee?
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2051013)
Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on January 31st, 2020 @ 2:55pm CST
*Looks it up real quick*
Bonaventura did, but has also produced the entire run of the live action movies and all of their 
plot holes and inconsistencies. Feige, in his work on/with the MCU, is constantly on sets, interacting with directors and screenwriters, and being present to know what is going on. In behind the scene documentaries or footage for the TF movies Bonaventura is never mentioned or seen, and like the difference between Travis Knight and Michael Bay, people that genuinely care about their product do better than people using it as a paycheck. The only producer I saw that interacted with making one of the TF films was Bay in Bumblebee and only really because that was the filming day where they were working on the quarry explosion scene. Knight has even said that Bay was only really there for action scenes.
Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on January 31st, 2020 @ 2:55pm CST
TulioDude wrote:IMO, we could almost dump di Bonaventura, and get a Feige like person to take command.
Anyway, this rant brought to you by the crap show that is the Last Knight being the only thing *worth* watching on TV right now...
But didnt Bonaventura also produced Bumblebee?
*Looks it up real quick*
Bonaventura did, but has also produced the entire run of the live action movies and all of their plot holes and inconsistencies. Feige, in his work on/with the MCU, is constantly on sets, interacting with directors and screenwriters, and being present to know what is going on. In behind the scene documentaries or footage for the TF movies Bonaventura is never mentioned or seen, and like the difference between Travis Knight and Michael Bay, people that genuinely care about their product do better than people using it as a paycheck. The only producer I saw that interacted with making one of the TF films was Bay in Bumblebee and only really because that was the filming day where they were working on the quarry explosion scene. Knight has even said that Bay was only really there for action scenes.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063163)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 2nd, 2020 @ 4:03pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 2nd, 2020 @ 4:03pm CDT
Thanks to reports coming in new outlets including Deadline, we have news that the next live action Transformers film has finally received a release date.
This information comes to us from Paramount themselves, as reported by Deadline. The next film was given the release date of June 24, 2022, which will place it almost 4 years after the Bumblebee movie in terms of release date, following a similar release date difference to the Dark of the Moon and Age of Extinction break. This also places it back in the Summer release schedule time period, which prior to Bumblebee every live action Transformers had followed.
There are currently 2 films scripts that are up for consideration for this time slot, which includes the Beast Wars based film written by James Vanderbilt of Murder Mystery fame, and another movie set in the prior live-action universe written by Joby Harold of Army of the Dead Fame. Which movie will get this slot is yet to be determined, and whether or not both films get made is also still up for debate.
This is also separate from the Animated Transformers film.
Check out the excerpt from the Deadline article below, and let us know what you think of this news in the comments section below!
This information comes to us from Paramount themselves, as reported by Deadline. The next film was given the release date of June 24, 2022, which will place it almost 4 years after the Bumblebee movie in terms of release date, following a similar release date difference to the Dark of the Moon and Age of Extinction break. This also places it back in the Summer release schedule time period, which prior to Bumblebee every live action Transformers had followed.
There are currently 2 films scripts that are up for consideration for this time slot, which includes the Beast Wars based film written by James Vanderbilt of Murder Mystery fame, and another movie set in the prior live-action universe written by Joby Harold of Army of the Dead Fame. Which movie will get this slot is yet to be determined, and whether or not both films get made is also still up for debate.
This is also separate from the Animated Transformers film.
Check out the excerpt from the Deadline article below, and let us know what you think of this news in the comments section below!
Paramount has given a date for a new live-action Transformers movie of June 24, 2022.
The studio is in development on two different projects: one by Murder Mystery scribe James Vanderbilt and the other by John Wick Chapter 3 EP and Army of the Dead scribe Joby Harold. The Vanderbilt project, from what we’ve heard, is based on Transformers spinoff Beast Wars which are robots that transform into robotic animals like Cheetor (Cheetah), Optimus Primal (Gorilla), Rhinox (Rhinoceros) and more. The other is reportedly in the Bumblebee universe. It’s not definite yet which one will make it to production.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063168)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 2nd, 2020 @ 4:23pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 2nd, 2020 @ 4:23pm CDT
I would be suprised if it wasn't the Bumblebee follow up myself. That seems more a sure fire bet
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063170)
Posted by TulioDude on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:06pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:06pm CDT
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063171)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:21pm CDT
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:21pm CDT
As much as I REALLY want a Live Action Beast Wars, I feel like Hasbro is going to go with the animated movie. It just seems easier to market, and of course Hasbro wants to sell more Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, etc toys rather than toys of "new" characters that many people wont recognize (speaking of the majority of filmgoers who's main/only exposure to Transformers has been Bayverse).
Hasbro has been moving away from the original creative spark that drove the franchise in the early 2000s for the 5ish years or so, choosing to rehash G1 over and over. I honestly miss the old days when they would be creative and try a whole new version of the franchise, which is how we got Beast Wars in the first place.
So given all that, I think it's a safe bet we'll be seeing this animated "prequel", full of characters who we've been seeing/buying for nearly a decade now.
But I could be completely wrong, and I really hope so. Let Transformers be different again!
Hasbro has been moving away from the original creative spark that drove the franchise in the early 2000s for the 5ish years or so, choosing to rehash G1 over and over. I honestly miss the old days when they would be creative and try a whole new version of the franchise, which is how we got Beast Wars in the first place.
So given all that, I think it's a safe bet we'll be seeing this animated "prequel", full of characters who we've been seeing/buying for nearly a decade now.
But I could be completely wrong, and I really hope so. Let Transformers be different again!
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063172)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:23pm CDT
I'm not sure you read the article correctly, this news for a live action film, the animated movie from a few days ago is entirely separate from this movie date announcement
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:23pm CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:As much as I REALLY want a Live Action Beast Wars, I feel like Hasbro is going to go with the animated movie. It just seems easier to market, and of course Hasbro wants to sell more Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, etc toys rather than toys of "new" characters that many people wont recognize.
Hasbro has been moving away from the original creative spark that drove the franchise in the early 2000s for the 5ish years or so, choosing to rehash G1 over and over. I honestly miss the old days when they would be creative and try a whole new version of the franchise, which is how we got Beast Wars in the first place.
So given all that, I think it's a safe bet we'll be seeing this animated "prequel", full of characters who we've been seeing/buying for nearly a decade now.
But I could be completely wrong, and I really hope so. Let Transformers be different again!
I'm not sure you read the article correctly, this news for a live action film, the animated movie from a few days ago is entirely separate from this movie date announcement
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063173)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:26pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:26pm CDT
Indeed we're getting the animated movie and either the Bumblebee sequel or Beast Wars
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Posted by Stormshot_Prime on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:30pm CDT
I did not, thanks for pointing that out! In that case, I believe it'll be a potential Bumblebee follow-up, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all. But I still stand by my take on the LA Beast Wars, the most we can do at this point is hope.
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:30pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Stormshot_Prime wrote:As much as I REALLY want a Live Action Beast Wars, I feel like Hasbro is going to go with the animated movie. It just seems easier to market, and of course Hasbro wants to sell more Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, etc toys rather than toys of "new" characters that many people wont recognize.
Hasbro has been moving away from the original creative spark that drove the franchise in the early 2000s for the 5ish years or so, choosing to rehash G1 over and over. I honestly miss the old days when they would be creative and try a whole new version of the franchise, which is how we got Beast Wars in the first place.
So given all that, I think it's a safe bet we'll be seeing this animated "prequel", full of characters who we've been seeing/buying for nearly a decade now.
But I could be completely wrong, and I really hope so. Let Transformers be different again!
I'm not sure you read the article correctly, this news for a live action film, the animated movie from a few days ago is entirely separate from this movie date announcement
I did not, thanks for pointing that out! In that case, I believe it'll be a potential Bumblebee follow-up, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all. But I still stand by my take on the LA Beast Wars, the most we can do at this point is hope.
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063175)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:36pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 2nd, 2020 @ 5:36pm CDT
Me personally, I want this to be a Beast Wars movie. I want this to be them
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063181)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 2nd, 2020 @ 6:11pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 2nd, 2020 @ 6:11pm CDT
If it was a beast wars movie, would they get the original voice cast to return (or just Primal)? They made a big deal of getting Cullen for prime in the normal movies, I just wonder if they would extend thd same courtesy to Gary
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Posted by Skritz on May 2nd, 2020 @ 7:09pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on May 2nd, 2020 @ 7:09pm CDT
I'd imagine most of these characters are given to bigger actors, as they don't quite have the appeal of 'muh GEEWUN' so they can get away with recasting almost everyone. That said: Scott McNeill back as Waspinator would be the one thing I'd want out of this movie, even if everything else is absolute childhood-breaking garbage.
Just because, damn it, its Waspinator.
Just because, damn it, its Waspinator.
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 2nd, 2020 @ 7:22pm CDT
Warden can cover his ears all he wants, but a huge chunk of the bw season 1 cast is in the tf hall of fame, clearly, there's something there.
I think a live action bw movie could look interesting, with all the live action animal-based movies disney has put out, there is a lot of software out there all ready that could make them really animated and expressive (a hallmark of all the bw characters if you ask me)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 2nd, 2020 @ 7:22pm CDT
Skritz wrote:I'd imagine most of these characters are given to bigger actors, as they don't quite have the appeal of 'muh GEEWUN' so they can get away with recasting almost everyone. That said: Scott McNeill back as Waspinator would be the one thing I'd want out of this movie, even if everything else is absolute childhood-breaking garbage.
Just because, damn it, its Waspinator.
Warden can cover his ears all he wants, but a huge chunk of the bw season 1 cast is in the tf hall of fame, clearly, there's something there.
I think a live action bw movie could look interesting, with all the live action animal-based movies disney has put out, there is a lot of software out there all ready that could make them really animated and expressive (a hallmark of all the bw characters if you ask me)
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 2nd, 2020 @ 9:30pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 2nd, 2020 @ 9:30pm CDT
Only if the voice over recording is outsourced to Vancouver, Canada instead of done locally in Los Angeles (as was done for the previous films and understandably so since these films are Hollywood productions).ZeroWolf wrote:If it was a beast wars movie, would they get the original voice cast to return (or just Primal)? They made a big deal of getting Cullen for prime in the normal movies, I just wonder if they would extend thd same courtesy to Gary
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 2nd, 2020 @ 9:42pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 2nd, 2020 @ 9:42pm CDT
I would like to see the Maximals and Predacons on the big screen, but I really hope that with the way TLK ended we get a proper conclusion to that story.
Yes, I know I'm in the small minority of those who want that.
Yes, I know I'm in the small minority of those who want that.
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Posted by TulioDude on May 2nd, 2020 @ 10:54pm CDT
They could do like X-men:Days of Future Past and make the present day storyline cross paths with the past timeline.
Posted by TulioDude on May 2nd, 2020 @ 10:54pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see the Maximals and Predacons on the big screen, but I really hope that with the way TLK ended we get a proper conclusion to that story.
Yes, I know I'm in the small minority of those who want that.
They could do like X-men:Days of Future Past and make the present day storyline cross paths with the past timeline.
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Posted by Deadput on May 3rd, 2020 @ 12:23am CDT
Posted by Deadput on May 3rd, 2020 @ 12:23am CDT
This might be an ok movie in-of-itself but anyone getting their hopes up that it's going to meet any expectations that this movie will be like the Beast Wars show is going to be disappointing.
Even if they have the Transformer designs just like the show the movie story and such itself will be new, it will be the Bayformers of Beast Wars even if it's a good movie, this is a reimagining not an adaptation.
They can't fit more then 5 or so episodes of story into one movie so the scope will be limited and so will the characters.
I'm not saying this movie will be bad, I'm saying it will not live up to expectations.
Even if they have the Transformer designs just like the show the movie story and such itself will be new, it will be the Bayformers of Beast Wars even if it's a good movie, this is a reimagining not an adaptation.
They can't fit more then 5 or so episodes of story into one movie so the scope will be limited and so will the characters.
I'm not saying this movie will be bad, I'm saying it will not live up to expectations.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 3rd, 2020 @ 4:51am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 3rd, 2020 @ 4:51am CDT
As much of a fan of Beast Wars as I am, I really hope this film never comes to be. Make a Bumblebee sequel, sure. It had more going for it than the previous few Live Action films, but not Beast Wars.
The part they don't get is Beast Wars isn't "a spin off" (I rolled my eyes when I read that), it is a Legacy series. Is there enough legacy to the Bayformers series to portray their future descendants? Absolutely not. They barely set foot off of Earth. Hardly a civil war across the galaxy that would influence the future.
Just throwing out a brand name, as a cash grab, will always lure a certain set of people. But a gross misunderstanding of what that property even is, dooms the film before it even starts. As far as explaining BW to a general audience, I'd expect it to be equally as superficial...
Studio: "That Optimus Prime turns into an ape"
General Audience: "Why?"
Studio: "Because Beast Wars. Geddit?"
The part they don't get is Beast Wars isn't "a spin off" (I rolled my eyes when I read that), it is a Legacy series. Is there enough legacy to the Bayformers series to portray their future descendants? Absolutely not. They barely set foot off of Earth. Hardly a civil war across the galaxy that would influence the future.
Just throwing out a brand name, as a cash grab, will always lure a certain set of people. But a gross misunderstanding of what that property even is, dooms the film before it even starts. As far as explaining BW to a general audience, I'd expect it to be equally as superficial...
Studio: "That Optimus Prime turns into an ape"
General Audience: "Why?"
Studio: "Because Beast Wars. Geddit?"
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063237)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 3rd, 2020 @ 10:08am CDT
I'm actually with you, I would like to see a conclusion to TLK
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 3rd, 2020 @ 10:08am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see the Maximals and Predacons on the big screen, but I really hope that with the way TLK ended we get a proper conclusion to that story.
Yes, I know I'm in the small minority of those who want that.
I'm actually with you, I would like to see a conclusion to TLK
Re: Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interview (2063238)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 3rd, 2020 @ 10:17am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 3rd, 2020 @ 10:17am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see the Maximals and Predacons on the big screen, but I really hope that with the way TLK ended we get a proper conclusion to that story.
Yes, I know I'm in the small minority of those who want that.
I'm actually with you, I would like to see a conclusion to TLK
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Posted by Deadput on May 3rd, 2020 @ 1:19pm CDT
There isn't much to really go off of for an ending anyways using only TLK and it's ending.
Quintessa is...alive? She certainly doesn't seem like she once was and besides scheming has little to no power, Megatron got literally disarmed and then got his butt kicked out of a ship (strange to me how it was Nitro Zeus that was the last man standing even if so brief so good for him) and for all we know he died on impact although unlikely which leaves him the biggest loose end, Barricade either escaped to live another day or was killed at Stonehenge.
As for Unicron? Well here is an easy answer, he sleeps and never wakes up which might lead to his death via whatever Quintessa's plan was going to be.
The Autobots go home to Cybertron and maybe get it out of Earth's orbit, the humans have their happy ever afters, consider the Bayverse ended.
Posted by Deadput on May 3rd, 2020 @ 1:19pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see the Maximals and Predacons on the big screen, but I really hope that with the way TLK ended we get a proper conclusion to that story.
Yes, I know I'm in the small minority of those who want that.
I'm actually with you, I would like to see a conclusion to TLK
There isn't much to really go off of for an ending anyways using only TLK and it's ending.
Quintessa is...alive? She certainly doesn't seem like she once was and besides scheming has little to no power, Megatron got literally disarmed and then got his butt kicked out of a ship (strange to me how it was Nitro Zeus that was the last man standing even if so brief so good for him) and for all we know he died on impact although unlikely which leaves him the biggest loose end, Barricade either escaped to live another day or was killed at Stonehenge.
As for Unicron? Well here is an easy answer, he sleeps and never wakes up which might lead to his death via whatever Quintessa's plan was going to be.
The Autobots go home to Cybertron and maybe get it out of Earth's orbit, the humans have their happy ever afters, consider the Bayverse ended.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 3rd, 2020 @ 1:38pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 3rd, 2020 @ 1:38pm CDT
The problem is, that satisfys no one but those who don't like the movies. There is several ways they could take things, and Quintessas plan probably involves doing more then just keeping unicron asleep. Being asleep is not the same as being dead afterall, there's always a chance to wake up (ask Cthuthulu about that). One way to solve the issue is that Unicron's essence is transferred into a host (willing or not) to take the fight to our heroes.
Remember, there's very few bad ideas, just terrible execution. The Bumblebee sequel could turn out just like Revenge of the Fallen depending on writers etc.
I should clarify though that I see a last knight sequel about as likely as G1 Wheelie getting a spin off movie where him and Live Action Wheelie end up in a comedy buddy trip movie. My point is that there's always places to take things of you've got writers willing to do the work, and there's people who want to see more of what happens (just they're in the same boat as those who want Amazing Spider Man 3)
Remember, there's very few bad ideas, just terrible execution. The Bumblebee sequel could turn out just like Revenge of the Fallen depending on writers etc.
I should clarify though that I see a last knight sequel about as likely as G1 Wheelie getting a spin off movie where him and Live Action Wheelie end up in a comedy buddy trip movie. My point is that there's always places to take things of you've got writers willing to do the work, and there's people who want to see more of what happens (just they're in the same boat as those who want Amazing Spider Man 3)
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 3rd, 2020 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 3rd, 2020 @ 4:31pm CDT
His lasting the longest was likely leftover from an earlier script in which he would have been decapitated and had his body taken over by Cogman, Headmaster-style, based on how the Nitro Zeus toy is Titan Master-compatible for seemingly no in-story reason when going off the final version of the movie.Deadput wrote:(strange to me how it was Nitro Zeus that was the last man standing even if so brief so good for him)
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Posted by TulioDude on May 3rd, 2020 @ 6:12pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on May 3rd, 2020 @ 6:12pm CDT
I believe that Barricade is alive.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 3rd, 2020 @ 7:23pm CDT
He's the con that cannot die
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 3rd, 2020 @ 7:23pm CDT
TulioDude wrote:I believe that Barricade is alive.
He's the con that cannot die
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Posted by Deadput on May 4th, 2020 @ 4:19am CDT
He might be but the Tfwiki (yes I know it's fan made and thus not official word or anything) considers him to be dead so I was listing him off as dead as a possibility even though he's probably alive and I don't consider anyone dead where possible in these movies, I'm an advocate of the "Dino is alive" camp.
This is true but you want to know what also wasn't satisfying to Bay fans?
The Last Knight, which is a shame because I went to that 25 minute movie preview thing where they had the early Hot Rod voice and such, and I liked what we saw there but then again very rarely does a preview pick the worst pieces from a film to show.
Still worth it for that poster and usb thing.
Obviously things were not properly planned but if it were up to me The Last Knight should of been a 2 part film, one dealing with the junk yard situation and a more down to Earth (literally) film with the Autobots dealing with Megatron's gang while part 2 would of been the whole Cybertron and Evil Prime stuff.
While true of course, what was intended for the film and ultimately what is in the film are different things, regardless Nitro Zeus is the best thing from the film to me and my fave Decepticon in the franchise as ridiculous as that sounds, he's got plenty of potential in another part of the franchise as a Decepticon who talks and acts like a dumb grunt but is a surprisingly competent hunter for Shockwave, yes toy/website bios aren't exactly "canon" but it's a part of why I like the character.
Posted by Deadput on May 4th, 2020 @ 4:19am CDT
TulioDude wrote:I believe that Barricade is alive.
He might be but the Tfwiki (yes I know it's fan made and thus not official word or anything) considers him to be dead so I was listing him off as dead as a possibility even though he's probably alive and I don't consider anyone dead where possible in these movies, I'm an advocate of the "Dino is alive" camp.
ZeroWolf wrote:The problem is, that satisfys no one but those who don't like the movies.
This is true but you want to know what also wasn't satisfying to Bay fans?
The Last Knight, which is a shame because I went to that 25 minute movie preview thing where they had the early Hot Rod voice and such, and I liked what we saw there but then again very rarely does a preview pick the worst pieces from a film to show.
Still worth it for that poster and usb thing.
Obviously things were not properly planned but if it were up to me The Last Knight should of been a 2 part film, one dealing with the junk yard situation and a more down to Earth (literally) film with the Autobots dealing with Megatron's gang while part 2 would of been the whole Cybertron and Evil Prime stuff.
Sabrblade wrote:His lasting the longest was likely leftover from an earlier script in which he would have been decapitated and had his body taken over by Cogman, Headmaster-style, based on how the Nitro Zeus toy is Titan Master-compatible for seemingly no in-story reason when going off the final version of the movie.
While true of course, what was intended for the film and ultimately what is in the film are different things, regardless Nitro Zeus is the best thing from the film to me and my fave Decepticon in the franchise as ridiculous as that sounds, he's got plenty of potential in another part of the franchise as a Decepticon who talks and acts like a dumb grunt but is a surprisingly competent hunter for Shockwave, yes toy/website bios aren't exactly "canon" but it's a part of why I like the character.
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Posted by TulioDude on May 4th, 2020 @ 10:55am CDT
Don't feel bad for that,there so many character that only had characterization because of those bios.
Posted by TulioDude on May 4th, 2020 @ 10:55am CDT
Deadput wrote:regardless Nitro Zeus is the best thing from the film to me and my fave Decepticon in the franchise as ridiculous as that sounds, he's got plenty of potential in another part of the franchise as a Decepticon who talks and acts like a dumb grunt but is a surprisingly competent hunter for Shockwave, yes toy/website bios aren't exactly "canon" but it's a part of why I like the character.
Don't feel bad for that,there so many character that only had characterization because of those bios.
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Posted by Deadput on May 4th, 2020 @ 2:15pm CDT
This is true, the creative imagination from fans and creators is a big part of why Transformers is the way it is today.
Posted by Deadput on May 4th, 2020 @ 2:15pm CDT
TulioDude wrote:
Don't feel bad for that,there so many character that only had characterization because of those bios.
This is true, the creative imagination from fans and creators is a big part of why Transformers is the way it is today.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2021 @ 4:38pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2021 @ 4:38pm CDT
The Hollywood Reporter reports that yet another Transformers film is in the works, one separate from
- the Bumblebee sequel written by Joby Harold and directed by Steven Caple, Jr.,
- the Beast Wars project written by James Vanderbilt,
- and the much older, still-in-the-works animated prequel film written by Andrew Barrer and Gabriel Ferrari and directed by Josh Cooley.
