Mastershooter MS-01M Mega Gun Test Shot Images

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I really would have preferred that they used Classics Megatron, we already have lots of little G1 Megatrons, from that first target masters style Megatron to the Legends class Megatron, and I thought there was another but I can't remember. Still, I'd like a little Classics Megatron, even if it's just his weapon mode, I'd be fine with that.

Lord Onixprime wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I really would have preferred that they used Classics Megatron, we already have lots of little G1 Megatrons, from that first target masters style Megatron to the Legends class Megatron, and I thought there was another but I can't remember. Still, I'd like a little Classics Megatron, even if it's just his weapon mode, I'd be fine with that.

Been done. Some third party a while back released an accessory scaled to clasics Starscream of Clasics Megatron's gun mode.

Mykltron wrote:Nice gun mode. How cute. I may have been interested if it had more ball joints.

waaaaghlord wrote:Seriously considering putting in a pre-order for one of these. As long as we've got the site owner's attention can I ask if you ship internationally, specifically to the UK?

CaSSeTteBOTs45 wrote:Despite all the negativity about it, I think this is a great idea! Even if it isn't the best molded targetmaster, and it doesn't look quite like G1 Megatron in the gun mode, its still in the spirit of the old targetmasters. I would consider getting this if it were a reasonable price... and display it with my G1 Soundwave!!

Sidecutter wrote:

CaSSeTteBOTs45 wrote:Despite all the negativity about it, I think this is a great idea! Even if it isn't the best molded targetmaster, and it doesn't look quite like G1 Megatron in the gun mode, its still in the spirit of the old targetmasters. I would consider getting this if it were a reasonable price... and display it with my G1 Soundwave!!

Hm. Not sure if you already knew, but these have been up for pre-order for some time. Pricing is $18 for one, or $35 for both (and believe me, there's not any huge padding in there, I know what these are costing to be made, nor am I making any large amount on them). Production run is limited to 500 of each figure.

waaaaghlord wrote:

Lord Onixprime wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I really would have preferred that they used Classics Megatron, we already have lots of little G1 Megatrons, from that first target masters style Megatron to the Legends class Megatron, and I thought there was another but I can't remember. Still, I'd like a little Classics Megatron, even if it's just his weapon mode, I'd be fine with that.

Been done. Some third party a while back released an accessory scaled to clasics Starscream of Clasics Megatron's gun mode.

Actually no they didn't. Fan's Project showed prototypes for a mini Megs gun in Classics and Henkei colours a couple of years ago but they never went into production and they have said that they won't be making them for release.

Seriously considering putting in a preorder for one of these. As long as we've got the site owner's attention can I ask if you ship internationally, specifically to the UK?

Rated X wrote:"Brown King" LMAO !!!

He's a turd !!!

These figures are really wack...

El Duque wrote:What I don't understand is why they insist on making existing main characters into Targetmasters instead of just making the original G1 Targetmasters partners. I can kind of understand Megatron, he does after all turn into a gun, but I don't really need a Starscream that turns into a gun.

amcgrath929 wrote:

El Duque wrote:What I don't understand is why they insist on making existing main characters into Targetmasters instead of just making the original G1 Targetmasters partners. I can kind of understand Megatron, he does after all turn into a gun, but I don't really need a Starscream that turns into a gun.

I'm on this train.

Sidecutter wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:

El Duque wrote:What I don't understand is why they insist on making existing main characters into Targetmasters instead of just making the original G1 Targetmasters partners. I can kind of understand Megatron, he does after all turn into a gun, but I don't really need a Starscream that turns into a gun.

I'm on this train.

Honestly, I agree. I'm not a fan of the Targetroids for this reason, since three of the four make no sense to me. Likewise, I'm not big on the Prime and Soundwave headmasters (I'd be more for them if it wasn't clearly Prime and Soundwave turning into their own heads). In this case, I think Megatron is at least a sensible choice. And if this product does well, I suspect a lot of people will see their wishes for Targetmasters to go with Classics toys like Kup, Scourge, etc. fulfilled.

juxtapose519 wrote:It's neat, but I wouldn't call it $18 neat. Then again, it might just be cause I'm cheap and broke.

It's a little big for my preference too. If it was two thirds the size and $10-12, I'd be all over it.

Sidecutter wrote:

juxtapose519 wrote:It's neat, but I wouldn't call it $18 neat. Then again, it might just be cause I'm cheap and broke.

It's a little big for my preference too. If it was two thirds the size and $10-12, I'd be all over it.

Unfortunately, if it was 2/3 the size, it wouldn't be able to have much articulation at all! It also wouldn't fit in perfectly alongside a lineup of original Targetmasters (or the newer Universe 2.0 Nightstick that came with Cyclonus).

rpetras wrote:OK, I threw in for them.

I like target masters, and I like mini-megatrons.

amcgrath929 wrote:Headrobots Hothead figure is 2/3 the size of this and it has better articulation. Granted, they may be working with a bigger budget.

Anyway, I'm going to pass on this little guy. Miniature Megatrons just don't appeal to me.

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I'm in agreement that these are about 1/3 too large... same with the Target-roids. Legends size is too big for a Targetmaster.

The FansProject and Junkion Blacksmith partners have been sized nicely, though.

Still, not saying I won't buy it. I like the double-mounted guns under Starscream... and the head/waist/arm cannon sculpt are nice.

--B-- wrote:

rpetras wrote:OK, I threw in for them.

I like target masters, and I like mini-megatrons.

You have been hanging out with Razorclaw0000 too much.

krenger99 wrote:It's pretty cool and makes for nice reenactment display scenes, but... $18.-? Really? Not a chance. It's getting old really quick, third party vendors charging obscene prices for tiny transformers. I grew up with G1 and I have a huge collection from then till now, but don't take advantage of my addiction, please. It's 2011. You should be able to get more in a product for less.

By the way, I'm staring at you, Perfect Effect.

Sidecutter wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Headrobots Hothead figure is 2/3 the size of this and it has better articulation. Granted, they may be working with a bigger budget.

Anyway, I'm going to pass on this little guy. Miniature Megatrons just don't appeal to me.

Just to clarify, because it seems the size is being misjudged here somehow, these aren't Legends size at all, these are exactly the same size as G1 Targetmasters in robot mode, and match up to some of the longer Targetmasters in gun mode, like the one that came with Crosshairs. You can see some shots I took a little over a week ago, including a Targetmasters group shot, on the Captured Prey Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/capturedprey). You can stand him right next to Universe 2.0 Cyclonus' partner, Nightstick, or right alongside Sidearm, and he'll fit right in.

If this was 2/3 the size, it would be the size of a Mini-Targetmaster from G1, VERY small.

amcgrath929 wrote:Speaking for myself, I can see he'd be the same size as Nightstick. But, in gun mode he looks less proportionate with Starscream than Cyclonus with Nightstick IMO. It works, but could be smaller regardless of the size of "normal" targetmasters. In my earlier post, I was just clarifying that he could be easily be 2/3 the size and still be articulated. Either way though, solid looking Targetmaster. I'm just ready for Targetmasters that aren't miniature versions of existing characters.

Sidecutter wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Speaking for myself, I can see he'd be the same size as Nightstick. But, in gun mode he looks less proportionate with Starscream than Cyclonus with Nightstick IMO. It works, but could be smaller regardless of the size of "normal" targetmasters. In my earlier post, I was just clarifying that he could be easily be 2/3 the size and still be articulated. Either way though, solid looking Targetmaster. I'm just ready for Targetmasters that aren't miniature versions of existing characters.

Fair enough, it was your choice of comparison that threw me off I think. I might be remembering off a bit, but I'm pretty sure a G1 Headmaster is about the same size as this, incluidng HotHead. But, to better respond to your original comment, he COULD have, say, knees even as is. However, one of the considerations of the creator was to have a weapon mode that was solid and stable, where everything fit securely and obviously into the proper position and stayed there well with handling, unlike certain other third-party weapon modes (actually, those make for good counter-illustrations now, but none of them were even announced when the first rapid prototypes of this design were made).

amcgrath929 wrote:I don't have the G1 Hardhead. I'm comparing this to the HeadRobots version. He comes up to Nightsticks elbows. He looks to have nailed the solidity he was looking for though. I just think this mini megs would look better with a voyager figure.

Sidecutter wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:I don't have the G1 Hardhead. I'm comparing this to the HeadRobots version. He comes up to Nightsticks elbows. He looks to have nailed the solidity he was looking for though. I just think this mini megs would look better with a voyager figure.

Well, they're the same size, give or take a bit (any difference is not worth mentioning), so that would be a fair indicator then.

And he does look absolutely perfect with Voyager figures. Several of the pics on the CP facebook page show this, or even larger figures, in fact.

Sidecutter wrote: I don't think it's fair to call it "obscene" when you don't know what the costs are compared to the price being asked. I think you would be surprised how much it actually costs to produce something like this.

El Duque wrote:What I don't understand is why they insist on making existing main characters into Targetmasters instead of just making the original G1 Targetmasters partners. I can kind of understand Megatron, he does after all turn into a gun, but I don't really need a Starscream that turns into a gun.

amcgrath929 wrote:Headrobots Hothead figure is 2/3 the size of this and it has better articulation. Granted, they may be working with a bigger budget.

Anyway, I'm going to pass on this little guy. Miniature Megatrons just don't appeal to me.

Insane Galvatron wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Headrobots Hothead figure is 2/3 the size of this and it has better articulation. Granted, they may be working with a bigger budget.

Anyway, I'm going to pass on this little guy. Miniature Megatrons just don't appeal to me.

I'm not seeing the difference in articulation. Mega-Gun has elbows, but no knees. Hothead has knees, but no elbows. I also don't think Hothead is only 2/3 his size. Plus you have to account for the fact that Hothead just has to have a face on his back and be able to fold into a box. Mega-Gun has to transform a bit more intricately to look like a Megatron's gun mode. Don't get me wrong. I have Hothead and love him. I just don't see him as being an engineering marvel when compared to Mega-Gun. They seem to be pretty on par with each other. As for him being a miniature Megatron... lets just wait and see what bio they come up with.

amcgrath929 wrote:

Insane Galvatron wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Headrobots Hothead figure is 2/3 the size of this and it has better articulation. Granted, they may be working with a bigger budget.

Anyway, I'm going to pass on this little guy. Miniature Megatrons just don't appeal to me.

I'm not seeing the difference in articulation. Mega-Gun has elbows, but no knees. Hothead has knees, but no elbows. I also don't think Hothead is only 2/3 his size. Plus you have to account for the fact that Hothead just has to have a face on his back and be able to fold into a box. Mega-Gun has to transform a bit more intricately to look like a Megatron's gun mode. Don't get me wrong. I have Hothead and love him. I just don't see him as being an engineering marvel when compared to Mega-Gun. They seem to be pretty on par with each other. As for him being a miniature Megatron... lets just wait and see what bio they come up with.

I didn't mean he was an articulation marvel, I was making the point that a figure that small could have the exact same articulation or better. And if this figure is as tall as Nightstick as stated previously, it is roughly 2/3 the size.

amcgrath929 wrote:I'm not bashing the product. If you look at my original post, the point i made was that a figure 2/3 the size could have the same or better articulation.

Insane Galvatron wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:I'm not bashing the product. If you look at my original post, the point i made was that a figure 2/3 the size could have the same or better articulation.

I did look at the original post, and you never said same, just better. I'm not bashing Hothead either, just pointing out that this guy has just as much articulation. Sure, he's bigger, but has the disadvantage of a more complex transformation. A robot that just folds into a box has more design room to give him articulation joints. When the arms and legs have to fold a certain way to look like a certain item, they have limitations on the movement. Taking that into consideration, I can't expect more from it just because it's 1/3 bigger. It's still pretty small.

Insane Galvatron wrote:No, I didn't think you were saying Hardhead is better. I was kinda defending the other post. He would have less articulation if he was smaller. Again, I point to complexity of the transformation. It limits things. If he were smaller, he'd probably loose at least the elbow joints. If he just transformed into a box, he could have more articulation than he does.

Plus, he's smaller than a targetroid. Those guys are Legends size, this guy is targetmaster/micromaster sized.