New Colour Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron and Features
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Posted by YRQRM0 on June 22nd, 2018 @ 10:53am CDT
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on June 22nd, 2018 @ 11:00am CDT
Posted by TulioDude on June 22nd, 2018 @ 11:32am CDT
Part of me expected a bit more of silver in his head,like the Botcon toy:
YRQRM0 wrote:I hope we get some Armada MPs some day soon.
I hear you man.Lets hope for it.
Posted by kurthy on June 22nd, 2018 @ 11:35am CDT
Posted by kurthy on June 22nd, 2018 @ 12:18pm CDT
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on June 22nd, 2018 @ 1:09pm CDT
DecepticonFinishline wrote:O--N--L--Y Downside: His elbows bend the stupid way. I get why... But I still don't like it. Hopefully there are enough swivels.
If you look in the second photo at his tail arm you can see that he seems to have two way elbow joints so he doesn't have the ****** curler arms
Posted by Emerje on June 22nd, 2018 @ 2:49pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by kurthy on June 22nd, 2018 @ 2:55pm CDT
Emerje wrote:So it seems he doesn't come with the stand after all, just some adapters for Dinobot's stand. That's great news and hopefully will keep his price a little more manageable.
Emerje
"manageable"
Posted by william-james88 on June 22nd, 2018 @ 3:04pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
This scene also shows why he has removable kibble in robot mode.
Ah that makes sense. At first I thought they were trying to give us the look he had when we see him in the first episode, which obviously doesnt work with that giant T-Rex head. But now I see what the point was. I hope those removeable pieces still latch on well and we dont have another Raideen from SOC scenario.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 22nd, 2018 @ 3:28pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
This scene also shows why he has removable kibble in robot mode.
Ah that makes sense. At first I thought they were trying to give us the look he had when we see him in the first episode, which obviously doesnt work with that giant T-Rex head. But now I see what the point was. I hope those removeable pieces still latch on well and we dont have another Raideen from SOC scenario.
What was the problem with Raideen?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 22nd, 2018 @ 3:49pm CDT
YRQRM0 wrote:I wish I was a bigger Beast Wars fan, cuz this guy looks amazing. I hope we get some Armada MPs some day soon.
Think of it this way, When it comes to MP, HasTak has yet to significantly deviate from release dates. Therefore:
G1 - 1984 to 1990 - They haven't even finished 1984 yet
G2 - 1993 to 1995 - A G2 MP figure does exist, so more are not impossible.
Beast Wars - 1996 to 1999 - They will shortly be Four characters into Season One. 4 of 14. Plus one redeco.
Beast Wars II - 1998 to 1999
Beast Wars Neo - 1999
Beast Machines - 1999 to 2000
Car Robots - 2000 to 2001
Armada - 2002 to 2003
Posted by shajaki on June 22nd, 2018 @ 4:10pm CDT
Two MP G2 figures. Bee and Swipe.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:G2 - 1993 to 1995 - A G2 MP figure does exist, so more are not impossible.
Beast Wars - 1996 to 1999 - They will shortly be Four characters into Season One. 4 of 14. Plus one redeco.
Two BW repaints. Shadow Panther and Supreme Commander Primal.
Posted by william-james88 on June 22nd, 2018 @ 5:00pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
This scene also shows why he has removable kibble in robot mode.
Ah that makes sense. At first I thought they were trying to give us the look he had when we see him in the first episode, which obviously doesnt work with that giant T-Rex head. But now I see what the point was. I hope those removeable pieces still latch on well and we dont have another Raideen from SOC scenario.
What was the problem with Raideen?
He also has a removeable backpack that you need to achieve his alt mode but it does not stay on securely.
Posted by DeadCaL on June 22nd, 2018 @ 5:18pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 22nd, 2018 @ 6:07pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 22nd, 2018 @ 6:09pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
This scene also shows why he has removable kibble in robot mode.
Ah that makes sense. At first I thought they were trying to give us the look he had when we see him in the first episode, which obviously doesnt work with that giant T-Rex head. But now I see what the point was. I hope those removeable pieces still latch on well and we dont have another Raideen from SOC scenario.
What was the problem with Raideen?
He also has a removeable backpack that you need to achieve his alt mode but it does not stay on securely.
Ah I see, hopefully in megs case it attaches securely but it does raise the spectre of future qc issues.
Posted by Blastback on June 22nd, 2018 @ 7:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2018 @ 7:25pm CDT
In Season 2.Blastback wrote:Only one complaint. Where’s the ducky?
Posted by Emerje on June 22nd, 2018 @ 11:15pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Two MP G2 figures. Bee and Swipe.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:G2 - 1993 to 1995 - A G2 MP figure does exist, so more are not impossible.
Beast Wars - 1996 to 1999 - They will shortly be Four characters into Season One. 4 of 14. Plus one redeco.
Two BW repaints. Shadow Panther and Supreme Commander Primal.
And original G1 continuity ended in 1992 with Operation Combination in Japan which gave us Guard City, Battle Gaia, the Micromaster combiners, and re-purposed European Predators and Turbomasters.
Emerje
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 23rd, 2018 @ 12:38am CDT
shajaki wrote:Two MP G2 figures. Bee and Swipe.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:G2 - 1993 to 1995 - A G2 MP figure does exist, so more are not impossible.
Beast Wars - 1996 to 1999 - They will shortly be Four characters into Season One. 4 of 14. Plus one redeco.
Two BW repaints. Shadow Panther and Supreme Commander Primal.
Technically the Primal redeco counts as a BWII entry, as he appears in those colors in the Movie.
Posted by TulioDude on June 23rd, 2018 @ 12:53am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on June 23rd, 2018 @ 1:49am CDT
Oh my pocket is gonna hemorrhage this Christmas!
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 23rd, 2018 @ 7:56am CDT
Emerje wrote:shajaki wrote:Two MP G2 figures. Bee and Swipe.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:G2 - 1993 to 1995 - A G2 MP figure does exist, so more are not impossible.
Beast Wars - 1996 to 1999 - They will shortly be Four characters into Season One. 4 of 14. Plus one redeco.
Two BW repaints. Shadow Panther and Supreme Commander Primal.
And original G1 continuity ended in 1992 with Operation Combination in Japan which gave us Guard City, Battle Gaia, the Micromaster combiners, and re-purposed European Predators and Turbomasters.
Emerje
Okay, let's address both of these at once!
RE: G2 - Puzzler that one Completely blanked on G2 Bee. Sideswipe was the only one that came to mind.
RE: Beast Wars - What I said was entirely correct. I said: "Four characters into Season One. 4 of 14. Plus one redeco". Optimus Primal, Cheetor, Dinobot, Megatron: The four characters of Season One. Shadow Panther is the one redeco that was not a part of the series. I did specify character, not toy. Repaints of those characters would also be inclusive in that descriptive.
RE: "End of G1" - The Masterpiece Collection, is mostly based on toys that accompanied other media. Technically G2 even counts in that by proxy, due to the awfully "rebranded" Sunbow repeats.
So for the purposes of that MP line mandate, I would draw the line for G1 at Zone, the last canonical series.
You'll note I skipped out Machine Wars (1997) from my list earlier for that very reason.
The inclusion of the Movie characters in the MP line (of which I do completely forget even exist) are purely because they are Multi-million making movies. Strike while the iron is hot, and all that.
Posted by Seibertron on June 23rd, 2018 @ 10:51am CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on June 23rd, 2018 @ 10:53am CDT
Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
Out of curiosity, which MP figures are you not a fan of?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 23rd, 2018 @ 10:54am CDT
Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
So far I'd say the Beast Wars MP Collection have been the best figures I've seen from HasTak within this line to date. Even Cheetor, who I didn't really care for at first, has grown on me. Optimus Primal and Megatron alone look practically perfect.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 23rd, 2018 @ 11:00am CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
Out of curiosity, which MP figures are you not a fan of?
If you look back, right around MP Magnus/Hot Rodimus/Shockwave was where the cartoon look really started to set in, and that is when Seibs started getting disappointed. I've watched the figures get more cartoon driven and Seibertron get more and more frustrated with the direction since
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 23rd, 2018 @ 11:04am CDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 23rd, 2018 @ 11:05am CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
Out of curiosity, which MP figures are you not a fan of?
I've been fairly critical of a lot of the recent figures, starting with Ultra Magnus. My primary issues are the figures which have an overly cartoon feel to them with the use of simplistic panels, or other parts, which exclude the "tech" or "mech" detail that Transformers of this size and caliber should have. In addition, I've been critical of figures that are a jumbled overly complicated nonsensical mess of parts to achieve either form. Dinobot is an exception to the latter issue because I don't think there's any other way to accomplish what they were able to do.
To date, Wheeljack and Prowl remain my personal favorites.
Posted by shajaki on June 23rd, 2018 @ 12:14pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on June 23rd, 2018 @ 1:58pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
Out of curiosity, which MP figures are you not a fan of?
I've been fairly critical of a lot of the recent figures, starting with Ultra Magnus. My primary issues are the figures which have an overly cartoon feel to them with the use of simplistic panels, or other parts, which exclude the "tech" or "mech" detail that Transformers of this size and caliber should have. In addition, I've been critical of figures that are a jumbled overly complicated nonsensical mess of parts to achieve either form. Dinobot is an exception to the latter issue because I don't think there's any other way to accomplish what they were able to do.
To date, Wheeljack and Prowl remain my personal favorites.
So do you also have issue with MP-36? Or does he fall in I the same exception as MP-41?
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 23rd, 2018 @ 2:08pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
Out of curiosity, which MP figures are you not a fan of?
I've been fairly critical of a lot of the recent figures, starting with Ultra Magnus. My primary issues are the figures which have an overly cartoon feel to them with the use of simplistic panels, or other parts, which exclude the "tech" or "mech" detail that Transformers of this size and caliber should have. In addition, I've been critical of figures that are a jumbled overly complicated nonsensical mess of parts to achieve either form. Dinobot is an exception to the latter issue because I don't think there's any other way to accomplish what they were able to do.
To date, Wheeljack and Prowl remain my personal favorites.
Not to be off-topic, but how do you feel about artfire? I couldn't stand inferno and grapple's uni-tone color scheme, but the two colors and tampo's on artfire really made up for it on him for me
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 23rd, 2018 @ 2:09pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Seibertron wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
Out of curiosity, which MP figures are you not a fan of?
I've been fairly critical of a lot of the recent figures, starting with Ultra Magnus. My primary issues are the figures which have an overly cartoon feel to them with the use of simplistic panels, or other parts, which exclude the "tech" or "mech" detail that Transformers of this size and caliber should have. In addition, I've been critical of figures that are a jumbled overly complicated nonsensical mess of parts to achieve either form. Dinobot is an exception to the latter issue because I don't think there's any other way to accomplish what they were able to do.
To date, Wheeljack and Prowl remain my personal favorites.
So do you also have issue with MP-36? Or does he fall in I the same exception as MP-41?
I'd be more upset about his capacity to be scratched than anything else
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 23rd, 2018 @ 2:09pm CDT
Cannot wait to get him, hopefully, he should be much less than $200
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 23rd, 2018 @ 2:14pm CDT
figures that are a jumbled overly complicated nonsensical mess of parts to achieve either form
Also let's be frank, this is the only way some of the Transformers are ever going to work within the Masterpiece Line IE Broadside
It will be the future going forward, as the designs become less standard and require more creative thinking to ensure accuracy. The cars, trucks and jets are the easy part after all.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 23rd, 2018 @ 2:17pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
Toy-accurate head: T-Wrecks! For that matter: Dinobot, toy-accurate head for... Grimlock.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 23rd, 2018 @ 2:55pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
Toy-accurate head: T-Wrecks! For that matter: Dinobot, toy-accurate head for... Grimlock.
Which also leads to some retools too, such as Hardhead. Nightprowler too is also a possibility.
Posted by Seibertron on June 23rd, 2018 @ 3:05pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:So do you also have issue with MP-36? Or does he fall in I the same exception as MP-41?
I don't know what to make about MP-36. His "robo vagina" is the first thing I notice every time I look at him. Overall, it's a great toy, but I think that crotch piece is just a visual mess that really bothers me. I'm also not a fan of the upper shoulder/torso area which looks unfinished to me, but I also acknowledge that a lot of Transformers toys have varying degrees of that problem as well. I have some other minor issues with the figure as well. It's a good Megatron, definitely more in-line with MP-41 Dinobot's transformation. I'm also aware that I'm in the minority on this one. I just can't get past the initial feelings and thoughts that I had about him.
Same goes with Hot Rod (various issues with robot mode and has flat car mode), Shockwave (mostly because of his colors and overly complex leg transformation), Ironhide and Ratchet (because of poor design of their backs/torso sides that could have been easily resolved), and I'm really torn on Inferno (the lower leg plain panels really irk me but I absolutely love his transformation). Ultra Magnus is a fantastic Masterpiece figure, he just needed more of the detailing that I think Inferno needed.
I want that feeling I got when I saw Wheeljack and just thought he was perfect, along with a clever transformation. When I see a figure and get that "disappointed" feeling about something that bothers me about the robot mode or car mode, it just sours it for me. I feel like a Debbie Downer about all of this and am frustrated about feeling this way about so many "Masterpiece" figures from the past 5 years or so unfortunately.
Posted by kurthy on June 23rd, 2018 @ 5:49pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:I want that feeling I got when I saw Wheeljack and just thought he was perfect, along with a clever transformation. When I see a figure and get that "disappointed" feeling about something that bothers me about the robot mode or car mode, it just sours it for me. I feel like a Debbie Downer about all of this and am frustrated about feeling this way about so many "Masterpiece" figures from the past 5 years or so unfortunately.
What about Sunny?
Posted by Seibertron on June 23rd, 2018 @ 6:35pm CDT
kurthy wrote:Seibertron wrote:I want that feeling I got when I saw Wheeljack and just thought he was perfect, along with a clever transformation. When I see a figure and get that "disappointed" feeling about something that bothers me about the robot mode or car mode, it just sours it for me. I feel like a Debbie Downer about all of this and am frustrated about feeling this way about so many "Masterpiece" figures from the past 5 years or so unfortunately.
What about Sunny?
I really liked the robot mode despite the fake chest (don't know how else you'd do "cartoon" accurate unless you did this), but I really disliked his very cartoonish head. Had they given him some of the tech/mech details from the G1 toy or previous versions of the character, I would have been very happy. It didn't need to be the G1 toy head like in the upcoming remold/recolor, but just those lines and details from that version is what I'm looking for. The cartoon styled head would have looked fantastic with some more details.
Posted by Ironhidensh on June 24th, 2018 @ 7:44am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Seibertron wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to chime in on this thread, since I've been kind of negative about other Masterpiece figures of late. Beast Wars Megatron looks amazing. I can't wait to own this figure and I can't wait to see the redeco or remold opportunities!
Out of curiosity, which MP figures are you not a fan of?
I've been fairly critical of a lot of the recent figures, starting with Ultra Magnus. My primary issues are the figures which have an overly cartoon feel to them with the use of simplistic panels, or other parts, which exclude the "tech" or "mech" detail that Transformers of this size and caliber should have. In addition, I've been critical of figures that are a jumbled overly complicated nonsensical mess of parts to achieve either form. Dinobot is an exception to the latter issue because I don't think there's any other way to accomplish what they were able to do.
To date, Wheeljack and Prowl remain my personal favorites.
Not to be off-topic, but how do you feel about artfire? I couldn't stand inferno and grapple's uni-tone color scheme, but the two colors and tampo's on artfire really made up for it on him for me
I jump in on this one. I think Artfire is a great example of just a little bit extra making all the difference. I got MMC Backdraft before MP Inferno came out. Then, when Inferno arrived, and so many started to rave about him, I sold Backdraft, and bought Inferno. Huge mistake. Inferno is so very boring and plain. I soon sold him and required Backdraft. Then Grapple came out, and while he is better than Inferno, with just a couple of panel lines added, he is still very much on the plain and boring side. Still, mold variance between the two characters now is what I like in my collection. I chose to ignore the coming of Artfire completely.
A couple of months ago, D-max and Cobotron just wounldn't shut up about Artfire in thier collection threads, so I decided to take a gamble, and bought Artfire. Great decision! Artfire is amazing! The tampos and color differences really make him pop and stand out. Takara really needs to up the level of tampos they do. Just look at the upcoming Megatron repaint. Those added details really make me want to piss my wife off and buy a second 200 buck figure.
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By Odin's beard! Look at that price!!!!!
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It might not be so bad.
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Japanese retail price is listed as equating to $315, so BBTS's price isn't that far higher.Bucky wrote:As disheartening as that price is at first glance, it does say right below it that “price is not final and may decrease.” Plus this is just for BBTS. Ordering through HLJ, Amiami, and Anime-Export are generally the cheaper options. Especially when you preorder through the latter, although you do pay upfront, rather than when the product comes in.
It might not be so bad.
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