New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive

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The Slagacon website has been updated with new prototype images of their Vector Zeta convention exclusive Powermaster style upgrade set for Classics Optimus Prime. The convention is scheduled for October 15th in Chesterfield, Indiana. Images mirrored below.

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Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297085)
Posted by Godzillabot Primal on October 6th, 2011 @ 12:11pm CDT

Okay, the awful bits are the head (which is bulbous) and the vehicle mode (with is stupid lookin')

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297087)
Posted by Samurai Bludgeon on October 6th, 2011 @ 12:14pm CDT

yea...I already have one of these but the robot mode is much better...and teh trailer mode is actually a trailer...

This is just horrible, and I love 3rd party stuff...

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297089)
Posted by rpetras on October 6th, 2011 @ 12:16pm CDT

If the convention is the 15th they better get past prototype stage pretty fast.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297090)
Posted by Captziltoid on October 6th, 2011 @ 12:17pm CDT

yea i kinda have to agree. its looks cool except for the head. it is a little too big. and i dont mind the vehicle mode cept for the fact that it doesnt connect right for me. it should be up to the back of the trailer. but thats just me. cant wait to see it in color though.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297098)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 6th, 2011 @ 12:50pm CDT

I realize it's unfinished and hasn't been painted yet, but that's several different shades of awful. It really is.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297118)
Posted by Sodan-1 on October 6th, 2011 @ 1:07pm CDT

Looks like a pile of slag 'an all.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297126)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on October 6th, 2011 @ 1:25pm CDT

No...

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297136)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 6th, 2011 @ 1:45pm CDT

So close yet so far. Was it really impossible for it to connect to Prime like City Commander does?

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297155)
Posted by LiKwid on October 6th, 2011 @ 2:28pm CDT

Every time they show a proto of this item, Fansproject points an laughs.... 8-}

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297157)
Posted by JERRYUS PRIME on October 6th, 2011 @ 2:28pm CDT

doesnt it supposed to have two rifles? :-?

when and if the second tralier comes out is it going to connect to the front of this so called trailer if yes then i guess it will be great other than that bot mode looks cool except the big head. trailer mode sad just sad until we get to see more of the second trailer then i can get happy about the trailer and only if it connects to this one. the 15th thats only 11 days away so wheres the finished product?????

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297158)
Posted by alternator77 on October 6th, 2011 @ 2:34pm CDT

so they took fp's design and just remolded the exterior? because honestly the way the arms.legs,chest and head attach i could swear it looks like a kitbash of cc. a bad one at that >:oP

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297164)
Posted by Prime Evil on October 6th, 2011 @ 2:39pm CDT

wait...and this cost more then FansProject City Commander Armor... :HEADHURTS:

This looks like a "downgrade" armor.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297168)
Posted by g2grimmy64 on October 6th, 2011 @ 2:43pm CDT

MEH

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297170)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on October 6th, 2011 @ 2:45pm CDT

yuck

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297171)
Posted by Sodan-1 on October 6th, 2011 @ 2:50pm CDT

JERRYUS PRIME wrote:the 15th thats only 11 days away so wheres the finished product?????

Close. Try 9 days, lol.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297174)
Posted by zodconvoy on October 6th, 2011 @ 2:53pm CDT

The only Optimus Prime I had as a kid was Powermaster and I started really reading the comics on a regular basis around issue 70 so Powermaster Optimus is one of my favorites. I'm willing to buy this from someone attending if they've (understandably) changed their mind but I'm not willing to do the eBay scalping markup. The vehicle mode looks incomplete and I hope they designed the Bomber upgrade to attach to it rather than be a second trailer.

I've waited for years for Fansproject to do one and now that it's all but definite they're never going to, I'm willing to settle! :lol:

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297186)
Posted by synthetik on October 6th, 2011 @ 3:11pm CDT

Ugh. Way too clunky.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297189)
Posted by GuyIncognito on October 6th, 2011 @ 3:12pm CDT

The head looks too big, and the "alt" mode looks like crap. It trails too far behind the cab, and there's no ground clearance. This thing needs to go back to the drawing board.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297198)
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on October 6th, 2011 @ 3:20pm CDT

That has to be one of the hardest to look at Prime heads I've seen in a while. :oops:

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297200)
Posted by donnie_707 on October 6th, 2011 @ 3:22pm CDT

GuyIncognito wrote:The head looks too big, and the "alt" mode looks like crap. It trails too far behind the cab, and there's no ground clearance. This thing needs to go back to the drawing board.

they got 9 days to come up with a new convention.....plenty of time! :lol:

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297209)
Posted by Autobot Scum on October 6th, 2011 @ 3:28pm CDT

Ok... the wheels don't turn, they are molded on. just put on your 'stupid filter' and take a good stare at them. See it?

Also, unless it's alt mode is supposed to look like a junk collector trailer [you know, with all the stuff just dumped in?], they failed.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297210)
Posted by GuyIncognito on October 6th, 2011 @ 3:29pm CDT

donnie_707 wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:The head looks too big, and the "alt" mode looks like crap. It trails too far behind the cab, and there's no ground clearance. This thing needs to go back to the drawing board.

they got 9 days to come up with a new convention.....plenty of time!

Then they should have sought more customer feedback before letting it progress this far.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297220)
Posted by Burnin12 on October 6th, 2011 @ 3:53pm CDT

Really all it needs is a new head mold. Paint apps could possibly save the trailer, considering there will be a second part to it.

You can definitely see the potential.

If it does end up not being awesome at all, I'm sure we'll see at least a few amazing kitbashes from it.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297227)
Posted by Anonymous on October 6th, 2011 @ 4:03pm CDT

donnie_707 wrote:they got 9 days to come up with a new convention.....plenty of time!

FAIL

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297250)
Posted by alexison on October 6th, 2011 @ 5:26pm CDT

Prime Evil wrote:wait...and this cost more then FansProject City Commander Armor...

This looks like a "downgrade" armor.

This.

It looks better than it originally did but I'm still unimpressed. The design is unoriginal and the remolded parts look bad. I'd be more forgiving if this wasn't a convention exclusive.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297274)
Posted by Bed Bugs on October 6th, 2011 @ 6:52pm CDT

Ya know, I bet this is what City Commander would have looked like in trailer mode, had they not given him the BFG that makes up the whole bottom half of the trailer.

Personally, I would rather have a repainted City Commander with a remolded Chest and Head pieces. Then just give him the smoke stacks for his shoulders, rather than the missile launchers.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297309)
Posted by Covenant on October 6th, 2011 @ 8:45pm CDT

That head is still rediculous.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297312)
Posted by Covenant on October 6th, 2011 @ 9:05pm CDT

zodconvoy wrote:The only Optimus Prime I had as a kid was Powermaster and I started really reading the comics on a regular basis around issue 70 so Powermaster Optimus is one of my favorites. I'm willing to buy this from someone attending if they've (understandably) changed their mind but I'm not willing to do the eBay scalping markup. The vehicle mode looks incomplete and I hope they designed the Bomber upgrade to attach to it rather than be a second trailer.

I've waited for years for Fansproject to do one and now that it's all but definite they're never going to, I'm willing to settle!

Powermaster Prime wasn't my first Prime (the original was), but of the few TF toys I managed to get as a child, Powermaster Prime was by far one of my favorites. Since FansProject D.I.A Powered Commander first appeared in prototype images, I've FIENDED for a proper Powermaster upgrade for Classics Prime. If you can settle for 'Zeta' (too cool a name for too crap a product, unless it means its a final attempt EVER), good for you. But it ain't worth it. It's overpriced and under-made. Even if PM Prime armor NEVER gets made (which I cannot believe will occur with all the current third parties out there churning products out faster than wallets can keep up), Vector Zeta will never be a viable purchase for me.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297314)
Posted by No One on October 6th, 2011 @ 9:28pm CDT

Yet everyone praises MP-10 for having it's waist and huge feet showing in truck mode for $250.00, but people complain about this?

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297316)
Posted by Covenant on October 6th, 2011 @ 9:33pm CDT

MR Optimus Prime wrote:Yet everyone praises MP-10 for having it's waist and huge feet showing in truck mode for $250.00, but people complain about this?

Er....yyyeeeeeeasss?

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297322)
Posted by Anonymous on October 6th, 2011 @ 9:55pm CDT

A Heartmaster upgrade for DIA Commander would be great... :twisted:

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297326)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 6th, 2011 @ 10:04pm CDT

MR Optimus Prime wrote:Yet everyone praises MP-10 for having it's waist and huge feet showing in truck mode for $250.00, but people complain about this?

You enjoy this, don't you? Did something crawl up your tailpipe recently? It's getting friggin' annoying.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297335)
Posted by No One on October 6th, 2011 @ 10:31pm CDT

Autobot032 wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:Yet everyone praises MP-10 for having it's waist and huge feet showing in truck mode for $250.00, but people complain about this?

You enjoy this, don't you? Did something crawl up your tailpipe recently? It's getting friggin' annoying.

If YOU don't like a VALID point, don't REPLY to it.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297337)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 6th, 2011 @ 10:49pm CDT

MR Optimus Prime wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:Yet everyone praises MP-10 for having it's waist and huge feet showing in truck mode for $250.00, but people complain about this?

You enjoy this, don't you? Did something crawl up your tailpipe recently? It's getting friggin' annoying.

If YOU don't like a VALID point, don't REPLY to it.

Oh, but I do like a valid point, I even respect them. It's the people behind them I tend to have a problem with, from time to time.

I never said you didn't have a valid point. You're whining about another toy in a thread it has nothing to do with. You posted about his feet in a new thread you started, most, if not all...disagreed with you or didn't care.

So you bring that argument here, to another thread in the hopes of keeping your opinion alive and worth a damn. It is, to you. Not to us and it doesn't belong in this thread.

You have every right to whine about MP-10 in the thread you felt a need to create. We're talking about Vector Zeta. Nothing to do with MP-10. Your point is valid in general, but it's not valid here in this thread and it doesn't matter here in this thread.

There's a difference. You either can't see it or you choose not to. I'm going with choose.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297338)
Posted by No One on October 6th, 2011 @ 10:52pm CDT

Grow up and go waste someone else's time with ALL that prattle.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297342)
Posted by Anonymous on October 6th, 2011 @ 11:00pm CDT

soooo... how bout dem Yankees... >:oP

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297344)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 6th, 2011 @ 11:05pm CDT

MP-10 has a trailer to hide his shame (if that's really such a huge concern; it seems fine to me). This IS the trailer.

But it is kinda derailing the thread ...

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297345)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 6th, 2011 @ 11:07pm CDT

MR Optimus Prime wrote:Grow up

I find that funny coming from a man who posted his complaints in another thread because no one cared to hear him in his original thread.

Plus, the obvious, which needn't be stated.

Are you done yet, or am I going to have to add you to my block list?

As for me, I'm done. Try and do the same.

Back on topic:

I'd very much like to see someone color this in Photoshop, just so we can get an idea. I have neither the tools, nor the talent to do it, so I figured I'd ask one of our more capable members to tackle that.

Maybe the colors could save the robot mode, but nothing will save that trailer mode. That being said, for what it is, it's rather impressive. But only for the fact that it was produced. Most conventions such as Slagacon usually can't afford to have a production run of an item such as this. At least not one they made themselves. Dairycon has to repaint existing figures and make the boxes for them, and all of the other cons have a 3rd party make something special for them. So, with that in mind...Slagacon has respect from me, but that doesn't mean I like the product. I tried. I can't.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297375)
Posted by xyl360 on October 7th, 2011 @ 1:18am CDT

After seeing what this thing is going to look like, I don't feel so left out any more, and I still think DIA Commander makes a much better PM Optimus Prime.

I did a kitbash/custom here in case anyone is interested in what it could have been (sorry, if plugging my own custom thread is not allowed or deemed irrelevant by the mods/admins and if so, then please remove this reference to it).

I'd still like to see FP pull off a PM Optimus using their DIA/City Commander kit, I think with a few simple mods/add-ons it would be spot-on

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297385)
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 7th, 2011 @ 2:58am CDT

The robot's meh... but the vehicle is just crap.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297387)
Posted by Flux Convoy on October 7th, 2011 @ 3:08am CDT

I do not regret passing on this. Not even slightly. Come on FP, do it right, please.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297480)
Posted by jON3.0 on October 7th, 2011 @ 10:45am CDT

I actually really like it! Powermaster Prime was one of my all-time favorite toys. It just needs a little engine guy!

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297544)
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 7th, 2011 @ 2:18pm CDT

Uggghhh. Wow, this thing is quite craptacular. I don't where to begin. And I hate to come across this way because I think it takes alot of courage to stick your neck out on the chopping block and try to design something like this because of the multitude of critical fans and the risk of ridicule. BUT having said that...I gotta be one of those critical fans. The head sculpt is terrible, too blocky (yes even for powermaster prime), the trailer mode looks like a bastard creation (it's got no papa), and what is up with those shoulders!?!? Is he trying out for the Iacon football team here or what. I'm definatley passing... I'm looking forward to the G2 Prime Trailer for RTS Prime thats about to be released. I'll let you other guys fight over this one on ebay (but what a waste of $$$$$). I have a feeling that another company will take a swipe at a PowerMaster Prime upgrade for Universe/Classics Prime so I'll patiently wait to see what else surfaces for this. I think were just seeing the begining of the 3rd party impact on this and other toylines. I agree with one of the comments above... FansProject saw this sculpt and laughed....ALOT.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297550)
Posted by Kibble on October 7th, 2011 @ 2:38pm CDT

I don't think it's THAT bad...until you factor in the cost, that is.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1297623)
Posted by alexison on October 7th, 2011 @ 5:19pm CDT

Kibble wrote:I don't think it's THAT bad...until you factor in the cost, that is.

That's the kicker. It's not a bad custon per say...but unfortunately, it isn't just that. It's a convention exclusive. No way I'd drop that kind of money on this.

(Rant)Btw, just bc you have an opinion & give it whenever you can, does not mean it's a valid point. Ever.(Rant over)

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1298051)
Posted by dinogeist on October 8th, 2011 @ 9:13pm CDT

Wow,I don't even slightly like this thing. personally it's all negatives & no positives.

Why isn't the trailer pushed on top of the legs in the optimus truck cab mode. where's the front wheels of the trailer.

The armor pieces seems to fit on the robot mode kinda cheap & easy looking.

easy pass for me.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1298197)
Posted by Astronopolis on October 9th, 2011 @ 10:16am CDT

its a shame that his artwork didn't translate well into toy form, he really is a skilled and talented artist. check out his deviantart page here http://tgping.deviantart.com/

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1298659)
Posted by Flashwave on October 10th, 2011 @ 2:45pm CDT

BEHOLD! COLOR!

Although this came from the aforementioned dA page, and sounds like it's his painting, not Slagacon's. Still, he color saves the bot mode, just needs some additional highlights.

http://tgping.deviantart.com/gallery/?o ... 4#/d2sjesp

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1298688)
Posted by dinogeist on October 10th, 2011 @ 3:42pm CDT

Flashwave wrote:BEHOLD! COLOR!

Although this came from the aforementioned dA page, and sounds like it's his painting, not Slagacon's. Still, he color saves the bot mode, just needs some additional highlights.

http://tgping.deviantart.com/gallery/?o ... 4#/d2sjesp

IMHO,It still looks worse in it's colored version.

Re: New Prototype Images of Slagacon's Vector Zeta Convention Exclusive (1298690)
Posted by RhA on October 10th, 2011 @ 3:49pm CDT

Well... You tried and that's what's really important.

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