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New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises

Transformers News: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises

Thursday, April 27th, 2023 8:37AM CDT

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Well, looks like the Rise of the Beasts film is leaving no surprises for the film, putting Unicron right at the centre of this new trailer as the main antagonist, rather than Scourge. We also finally have a look at Nightbird in action and the army of Scorponoks. There is a severe lack of Maximals in robot mode though. We also have a new poster to share with you of the whole team of good guys except for Wheeljack (who does have fins in the film).



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Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160163)
Posted by griftimus prime on April 27th, 2023 @ 8:41am CDT
unicron is coming. thats it. no turning back . worst continuity in film of all time.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160164)
Posted by Ig89ninja on April 27th, 2023 @ 8:41am CDT
I’m gonna just leave this here.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160165)
Posted by Nexus Knight on April 27th, 2023 @ 8:49am CDT
So... Unicron is coming to Earth... but he is also Earth... and this isn't a reboot... ow my head.

Sidebar: This looks epic... other than likely continuity slipsadoodle (seriously, the Bay films were moneymakers and the my first exposure to Transformers, but let them go, pleeeeease), I'm hoping for big things.
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Posted by Ig89ninja on April 27th, 2023 @ 8:52am CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:So... Unicron is coming to Earth... but he is also Earth... and this isn't a reboot... ow my head.

Sidebar: This looks epic... other than likely continuity slipsadoodle (seriously, the Bay films were moneymakers and the my first exposure to Transformers, but let them go, pleeeeease), I'm hoping for big things.

That's just :michaelbay: continuity for ya.
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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 9:23am CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:So... Unicron is coming to Earth... but he is also Earth... and this isn't a reboot... ow my head.

Sidebar: This looks epic... other than likely continuity slipsadoodle (seriously, the Bay films were moneymakers and the my first exposure to Transformers, but let them go, pleeeeease), I'm hoping for big things.


Could pull a TF:Prime where his essence was pulled into the earth or alternatively Unicron came from the future, potentially the same one that the rumored Scourge being Bayverse/2007-TLK Optimus leak which might or might not be true but considering leak after leak after leak has turned out to be true it's quite possible.


The most jarring question is how the hell can Earth face Unicron here and then pretend Transformers never showed up until 2007, a Planet-sized dude is kinda hard to cover up even for Sector 7.

This is of course unless Rise of the Beasts pulls an X-Men Days of Future Past to reset the timeline in a new direction effectively retconning 2007-TLK or at least branching out into a new timeline.


I think Paramount's going for a literal reboot sequel, aka they want their Energon cake and eat it too.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160169)
Posted by DeathReviews on April 27th, 2023 @ 9:27am CDT
I stopped following the Bayverse films some time ago. So much potential, so much squandered so they could pander to the lowest common denominator. Every time their team tries to inject 'personality' into a Transformer character, it winds up as pure, concentrated cringe.
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Posted by o.supreme on April 27th, 2023 @ 9:30am CDT
Spoiler: the end of the movie has Unicron getting sucked into the Earth. The sucking unfortunately takes all the Beast TFs with it and has an unexpected time warp in that he got sucked back to when earth was Pangaea.Also the sucking has an amnesiatic side effect on all humans and Transformers on earth. This why in TLK, Prime had no idea Earth was Unicron.

There all fixed 8-}
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160172)
Posted by Munkky on April 27th, 2023 @ 9:41am CDT
Unicron being in this movie makes me think they're doing a sort of "half-way" reboot-prequel that only acknowledges one or two past movies as canon and ignores everything else. Slasher movie franchises do this a lot, Halloween is notorious for it, being like a Choose Your Own Adventure book with the various timelines at this point, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre does it too. It seems like Rise of the Beasts is at the very least ignoring The Last Knight, and possibly Age of Extinction too, which I don't mind too much.
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Posted by SpaceEagle on April 27th, 2023 @ 9:45am CDT
Trailer looked pretty cool, seems like it'll at least have some good action scenes. Kinda surprised they jumped to the biggest bad of them all with Unicron, though. I just hope it's executed decently enough. I'm very much okay with TLK being ignored, and hopefully AoE as well. :lol:
I'm not the biggest continuity nut anyway...

Also huh, I didn't notice Wheeljack does indeed get some head fins, seems like they're trying to marry the Cybertron scene with the later DotM Que look.
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Posted by Immortal Starscream on April 27th, 2023 @ 9:46am CDT
I don't know why people are that surprised. The phrase "Transformers Continuity" has almost always been an oxymoron.
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Posted by SpaceEagle on April 27th, 2023 @ 9:50am CDT
Immortal Starscream wrote:I don't know why people are that surprised. The phrase "Transformers Continuity" has almost always been an oxymoron.

I'd have thought the hydra that is the Japanese G1 "Continuity" would've made more people realise this, heh.
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Posted by o.supreme on April 27th, 2023 @ 10:10am CDT
Everyone has their own view. But for me, until Car Robots/Rid there were basically only 2 continuities. The Marvel Comic, and Marvel/Sunbow animated series.

UK, & G2 comics were part of Marvel comics continuity.

All the Japanese series, Manga, as well as BW and BM could be tied to the original Sunbow series. It wasn't *perfect* but it made a heck of a lot more sense than the live action films.

Sure in the 21st century we have literally dozens of TF continuities now, but nobody is saying they Are all in the same universe. We acknowledge they are all different.

It's just certain producers at Paramount trying to say all the live action films take place in the same continuity when that clearly isn't possible.
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Posted by griftimus prime on April 27th, 2023 @ 10:40am CDT
how can you do unicron twice? does he get absorbed into the planet at the end or something? mirage said hes is bigger than the planet.
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Posted by Immortal Starscream on April 27th, 2023 @ 10:47am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Everyone has their own view. But for me, until Car Robots/Rid there were basically only 2 continuities. The Marvel Comic, and Marvel/Sunbow animated series.

UK, & G2 comics were part of Marvel comics continuity.

All the Japanese series, Manga, as well as BW and BM could be tied to the original Sunbow series. It wasn't *perfect* but it made a heck of a lot more sense than the live action films.

Sure in the 21st century we have literally dozens of TF continuities now, but nobody is saying they Are all in the same universe. We acknowledge they are all different.

It's just certain producers at Paramount trying to say all the live action films take place in the same continuity when that clearly isn't possible.


one thing I've been saying for a while, and still think is true, is that this movie is going to borrow from the netflix kingdom show. Beastwars has been heavily tied to time travel shenanigan's since it's beginning after all. In other words, this unicron is likely the unicron from the future, or a possible future where he got up and dusted the Earth off of him.

as for the movie continuity as a whole, it has been broken since RotF, and broken more with each movie's retcon of the retcons. (insert obligatory Autobots vs Retcons joke here). So I never expect anything else.

Wheeljacks full model does look much better inho, even if they are still doing the Urkel "Nerds must look like sterotype nerds" motif.

At the end of the day, I'm not expecting high cinema. Would a high cinema art piece be awesome? sure.
But for me, it is more important that it is a fun, entertaining and enjoyable romp, without being so braindead as to be insulting. Because imho, that's what made Transformers great from the beginning.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 27th, 2023 @ 10:49am CDT
william-james88 wrote:You should read the article you posted, they didn't call it a reboot, that's just fan interpretation of generic corporate speak which was never even made official.



I did. Some people might be stupid enough to post without reading, but not me. It's articles like that one that have all contributed to this being plastered across the internet:

Google: Is Bumblebee a prequel or reboot?

Answer: Overall Bumblebee was developed as a prequel to Bayverse but later on decision was made to make it a reboot of the franchise so they changed some scenes at the beginning of the movie and at the end of the movie.


Which if ultimately true, by default does fix the Unicron plot hole.
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Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on April 27th, 2023 @ 11:01am CDT
Trailer was pretty cool! Looks like it’ll be fun. Some very neat shots of Bumblebee in there!
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 27th, 2023 @ 11:02am CDT
I thought it was ok. Clearly answers the question why Scorponok is cited without the other main Predacons too.
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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 11:16am CDT
Read on one of the other fan sites that the round ball things in the bit where Bee's "skydiving" appear to be similar to Armada Dead End, a "character" that was associated with Unicron.

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If so that's a bit cool way to potentially get Unicron a bit more active in a battle than just hovering over the planet while letting his Heralds do all the heavy lifting.


Well at the least this trailer shows that the action should at least be pretty decent, didn't look super shaky like some of the previous films have been where I can at least tell what's going on relatively despite the scale of the fight, as much as I liked Bumblebee's fights just fine as one on one fights I'm somewhat glad to get an epic war fight that might be good, at the least even if the film isn't great in the story department it should hopefully be entertaining in a popcorn flick sort of way, only movie I've watched in theaters in the last 4 or so years was Top Gun Maverick and Mario so eh a big theater experience will be nice.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2023 @ 11:24am CDT
If any previous movie is getting retconned by all this, it could just be TLK alone, since it was the only one of the movies that bombed.
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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 11:29am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:If any previous movie is getting retconned by all this, it could just be TLK alone, since it was the only one of the movies that bombed.


What would the point of that be when all it would do is just make Age of Extinction a cliffhanger if they don't follow up on the ending when it already had a sequel movie as unsatisfying as it was at actually following up on the plot threads there especially when Unicron was never mentioned to be a thing until TLK?

This film doesn't seem to be doing anything with Creators or whatever so that idea just seems jarring.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2023 @ 11:50am CDT
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:If any previous movie is getting retconned by all this, it could just be TLK alone, since it was the only one of the movies that bombed.


What would the point of that be when all it would do is just make Age of Extinction a cliffhanger if they don't follow up on the ending when it already had a sequel movie as unsatisfying as it was at actually following up on the plot threads there especially when Unicron was never mentioned to be a thing until TLK?

This film doesn't seem to be doing anything with Creators or whatever so that idea just seems jarring.
Simple. Wipe clean the terrible post-AOE slate we have now, to make room for a future movie to pick up the pieces and try making better AOE follow-up.
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Posted by william-james88 on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:00pm CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:Trailer looked pretty cool, seems like it'll at least have some good action scenes. Kinda surprised they jumped to the biggest bad of them all with Unicron, though.


I'm surprised too. So far, in all the merch and interviews, the main villains were always said to be the terrorcons. And now, this trailer makes them an afterthought or just an appetizer to the main course.

The lack of Unicron in the test screenings does make me worry that most of what we see of him is in the trailer, which I think will piss a lot of people off. Reminds me of how The Last Knight centered all its marketing on Evil Optimus and his big face off with Bumblebee when that was a minor bit in the film and Bumblebee was never really in danger due to his new reassembly powers.

Also, really crazy how we go from Unicron in TLK and then they dial it down to a much smaller level in Bumblebee, and then with that slight success and good faith, they bring it right back to Unicron. Though I do always support going for broke. Aquaman did that, the Fast and Furious films do that, it can work.

o.supreme wrote:It's just certain producers at Paramount trying to say all the live action films take place in the same continuity when that clearly isn't possible.


It's not just the producer, it's the official stance from Paramount in any printed form (magazine articles, newspapers, ect) when describing a link to the previous movies in the franchise. Here's another example from total film where they make it clear where it fits with the Shia Leboef movies: https://twitter.com/AlfonsoNation/statu ... 90/photo/3

And I agree, it's all nonsense. But I preffer that than calling this a reboot because that just cheapens the word. Let's say this very same film was instead said to be a reboot by Paramount, it would have no benefits of a reboot. It's the same vision and visual style, and has callbacks to Bay elements. When fans ask for a reboot, do they just mean it doesn't have to connect to every story established in previous movies (which is what this is) or do they want a new vision? Like having a Bumblebee who has a different face and talks, doing a film from the point of view of the robots, ect.

Munkky wrote:Unicron being in this movie makes me think they're doing a sort of "half-way" reboot-prequel that only acknowledges one or two past movies as canon and ignores everything else. Slasher movie franchises do this a lot, Halloween is notorious for it, being like a Choose Your Own Adventure book with the various timelines at this point, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre does it too. It seems like Rise of the Beasts is at the very least ignoring The Last Knight, and possibly Age of Extinction too, which I don't mind too much.


Yes, they are doing exactly that, but I feel they've been doing that since the second film, honestly, when they started retconning stuff. Your slasher film example is good and I would add that this reminds me of the Batman films in the 90s and the Bond films before Craig. All examples of films that are meant to be enjoyed as single entities but also connected within a singular film franchise.

Anyways, I would HIGHLY recommend that no one waste any time or braincells trying to make sense of this. Hasbro/Paramount give it 0 thought, so why should you? Let's just enjoy what we can of it.
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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:04pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:If any previous movie is getting retconned by all this, it could just be TLK alone, since it was the only one of the movies that bombed.


What would the point of that be when all it would do is just make Age of Extinction a cliffhanger if they don't follow up on the ending when it already had a sequel movie as unsatisfying as it was at actually following up on the plot threads there especially when Unicron was never mentioned to be a thing until TLK?

This film doesn't seem to be doing anything with Creators or whatever so that idea just seems jarring.
Simple. Wipe clean the terrible post-AOE slate we have now, to make room for a future movie to pick up the pieces and try making better AOE follow-up.


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Just make new movies with a clean slate, we got comics and other mediums to give us a follow up on TLK and such that can answer the AOE plot threads, imo it would be more ideal for the movies to actually go into new directions not try to salvage a continuity that isn't much of a coherent one.

Major reason AOE didn't bomb was because of China boosting it's numbers, it was still dwindling overall and was still critically viewed as a "not good" film.

That's like asking for the Star Wars Prequel or/and Sequel trilogies to get do-overs because a selection of people didn't like them, Transformers doesn't have the room for a bunch of films like Star Wars or Marvel, we get 1 movie every few years besides Bumblebee being short after TLK or how the animated Cybertron film is intended to be out in a year or so after ROTB.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:05pm CDT
Unicron is risky though. He's usually been the final act of a Transformers story. Alternatively, the whole idea is to keep him dormant to mitigate those stakes.
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Posted by noctorro on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:09pm CDT
Just saw the trailer, been checking youtube for that thing multiple times a day for 2,5 weeks (not much fun going on in my life at the moment).

Thoughts +:
It looks like fun, it looks filled with action, with Transformers talking and having some identity. Adding Unicron is epic, I don't care for the Bayverse continuity because Mr. Bay doesn't so.
Arcee looks fun, Rhinox, there are a lot of Transformers in this movie guys! And it looks like they have their own stories in it. Showing Unicron is a big spoiler which they should've kept for the movie itself in my opinion, but there is still some mystery left in the trailer.

Thoughts -:
The cg looks bad guys, it might be Youtube doesn't fully show the crispness, but it just looks like Transformers 4 Lockdown transforming from car to robot for the first time. This can be a Marvel thing (rushing the digital artists to death) or budget restraints. Hopefully it looks better onscreen. If it doesn't I still wouldn't hold it against them, they shove in a lot of cg battles and bots.

I'm hyped for the movie guys!
Here's hoping they make a Unicron toy, guys a Titan Unicron!
Or just remold Armada Unicron a bit for more detail and a more accurate paintjob.
Heck just repaint Armada Unicron if it's the only way to give us a movie Unicron, they did it with Cybertron Primus in I think The Last Knight which I have.
Wh' why? Oh Cybertron was in the movie, I forgot.

In my pinion, it doesn't need to be The Dark Knight, Infinity War or Dune level sci fi movie making. Just be a decent, fun action movie with nostalgia stuff and I'm satisfied.
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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:09pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Unicron is risky though. He's usually been the final act of a Transformers story. Alternatively, the whole idea is to keep him dormant to mitigate those stakes.


Unicron is boring because he's barely a character and more like a Transforming Death Star most of the time, I kinda hope he's not just killed off here and is instead more of a multi-film villain who can actually be his own character.


Then again it would be nice to actually get Megatron back and make him the main villain for once since uh 2007 and even then he was in ice for most of that film.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:09pm CDT
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:If any previous movie is getting retconned by all this, it could just be TLK alone, since it was the only one of the movies that bombed.


What would the point of that be when all it would do is just make Age of Extinction a cliffhanger if they don't follow up on the ending when it already had a sequel movie as unsatisfying as it was at actually following up on the plot threads there especially when Unicron was never mentioned to be a thing until TLK?

This film doesn't seem to be doing anything with Creators or whatever so that idea just seems jarring.
Simple. Wipe clean the terrible post-AOE slate we have now, to make room for a future movie to pick up the pieces and try making better AOE follow-up.


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Just make new movies with a clean slate, we got comics and other mediums to give us a follow up on TLK and such that can answer the AOE plot threads, imo it would be more ideal for the movies to actually go into new directions not try to salvage a continuity that isn't much of a coherent one.

Major reason AOE didn't bomb was because of China boosting it's numbers, it was still dwindling overall and was still critically viewed as a "not good" film.
Every time they make tie-in comics for the movies to try and explain things that the movies didn't, a later movie comes along and makes those comics null and void.

The first three films had comics that helped piece everything together in a nice neat way that those three films never even bothered to try doing. And then AOE came along just threw all of those comics out the window, with TLK further burying them in the ground. Then some new comics came along to try and smooth things over between TLK and the then-upcoming Bumblebee movie, but the final version of the Bee movie ended up chucking those comics into the trash.
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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:14pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Every time they make tie-in comics for the movies to try and explain things that the movies didn't, a later movie comes along and makes those comics null and void.

The first three films had comics that helped piece everything together in a nice neat way that those three films never even bothered to try doing. And then AOE came along just threw all of those comics out the window, with TLK further burying them in the ground. Then some new comics came along to try and smooth things over between TLK and the then-upcoming Bumblebee movie, but the final version of the Bee movie ended up chucking those comics into the trash.

Very true but if they actually decided not make another film in that timeline, it could for once be the actual canon events instead of having that de-canoned fate the other tie-in media suffered from.

The people clamoring for a do-over on AOE or/and TLK are a very niche group of people even ignoring that Rise of Unicron fan film, there is no logical reason to do something like this when the casual audience couldn't care one way or another.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:16pm CDT
noctorro wrote:Thoughts -:
The cg looks bad guys, it might be Youtube doesn't fully show the crispness, but it just looks like Transformers 4 Lockdown transforming from car to robot for the first time. This can be a Marvel thing (rushing the digital artists to death) or budget restraints. Hopefully it looks better onscreen. If it doesn't I still wouldn't hold it against them, they shove in a lot of cg battles and bots.


I'm told IL&M are not behind this film. Which I think is quite evident from the trailer.


Deadput wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Unicron is risky though. He's usually been the final act of a Transformers story. Alternatively, the whole idea is to keep him dormant to mitigate those stakes.


Unicron is boring because he's barely a character and more like a Transforming Death Star most of the time, I kinda hope he's not just killed off here and is instead more of a multi-film villain who can actually be his own character.


That's just it. Ever since '86, he's been a plot device. Even the Marvel Run, which gave the G1 iteration additional storylines. Didn't really make his characterisation that deep. I don't see this film veering too far from his classic depictions, to be honest.
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Posted by noctorro on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:18pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Unicron is risky though. He's usually been the final act of a Transformers story. Alternatively, the whole idea is to keep him dormant to mitigate those stakes.


I feelz this way to. You cannot go grander than Unicron.
You skip city bots who are insanely big and they haven't done a decent normal combiner (I don't count brainless gorilla Devastator who's defeated by 2 minibots and a manmade gun a combiner and that shapeless black vomit demon dude... no)

It's like modern writers are either dumb as a brick, or the studios hold their spouse at gunpoint.
Doctor Strange 2's threat was Wanda inslaving the entire MULTIVERSE, that means not just earth, not just all the planets and known intelligent species that could exist including freaking Celestials. But that times infinity because 1 box from russia who's just a mutant I think has that insane amount of power. Makes you think why she didn't just turn Thanos inside out the moment she saw him.

As a writer you create tension, setups and payoffs. And with sequel movies you gradually raise the stakes, some heroes die, greater villains arrise untill you come to the conclusion of that story/universe with the biggest bad and after that you stop making the damn movies.

It could be (though I doubt it) that this movie is written very competently and intelligent and that it completely fits that Unicron is already shown. Maybe he doesn't reach earth yet, maybe there's something behind Unicron that's an even bigger threat. Maybe earth is f*cked and the good guys lose and somehow they have te rebuild lateron (please.. .. please don't timetravel to negate the epic win of the badguys).

Anyway I'm not going for a fresh, intelligent sci fi story, I'm going for Transformers, fun characters and cool stylish battles. And then buy the mainline toys and fill the cast with studio series if need be.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:20pm CDT
noctorro wrote:maybe there's something behind Unicron that's an even bigger threat.



:???:
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Posted by noctorro on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:24pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
I'm told IL&M are not behind this film. Which I think is quite evident from the trailer.


Unicron is boring because he's barely a character and more like a Transforming Death Star most of the time, I kinda hope he's not just killed off here and is instead more of a multi-film villain who can actually be his own character.


That's just it. Ever since '86, he's been a plot device. Even the Marvel Run, which gave the G1 iteration additional storylines. Didn't really make his characterisation that deep. I don't see this film veering too far from his classic depictions, to be honest.[/quote]

First part: Ahaa, I didn't know that about switching studios. Lets keep our fingers crossed for the film.

Second part: Yes I agree, he's cool only because he's planet sized and looks cool. He hasn't been a character from what I can tell. He just eats planets and dies.

They could do so much with Unicron, I love Armada's iteration of Unicron the best (there aren't many). From what I member that Unicron got so powerfull because of species being at war with each other constantly in horrific ways. And he lost part of his power/went dormant as soon as the Autobots and Decepticions had a seize fire. And Unicron created the Minicons as cute innocent creatures just to powerup the warmongering Transformers and abuse them so more hate/destruction=food for that Unicron.

I think you can do pretty deep stuff with Unicron in short.
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Posted by King Kuuga on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:26pm CDT
Lorenzo and Paramount can call it whatever they wants. This is a rebooted continuity unless they bend over backwards to try to connect Unicron to the end of TLK. And I'm fine with that. It's not like this franchise is famous for strict continuity adherence between entries. It looks like a big loud action-packed Transformers movie. As long as there's none of the awful stuff from AOE or TLK then I'm here for it.
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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:28pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
noctorro wrote:maybe there's something behind Unicron that's an even bigger threat.



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Um...Liege Maximo

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Er how about Tornedron and Primacron?


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Unicron's really the limit which is again why he should hopefully not be dealt with in 1 film, or technically 2 if he's the same as TLK Unicron.
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Posted by noctorro on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:28pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
noctorro wrote:maybe there's something behind Unicron that's an even bigger threat.



:???:


According to Geewun, the cartoon. There was this skinny robot scientist who created Unicron out of boredom and after that some glow in the dark dragon.
Which means Unicron has a bot-made origin. Now if you give that dude insane powers or intelect that could be an interesting villain.
With a smaller scale destruction but more emotional? Maybe his second plan is to create that red glowing everybody hates and kills each other virus from one of the g1 episodes.
I think a bigger threat then a planet eater feelz wise could be that all the known characters good & bad get infected and helplessly start killing each other and humans around them. Threat just as intense but on a different level.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160203)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:34pm CDT
There's really only one thing in Transformers lore that's worse than Unicron, but its something rather obscure and is even less of a character than Unicron, basically just a mindless animal: the Beast of Time known as The Hytherion.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:40pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:There's really only one thing in Transformers lore that's worse than Unicron, but its something rather obscure and is even less of a character than Unicron, basically just a mindless animal: the Beast of Time known as The Hytherion.



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Had a quick read. That seems far too high concept for these films...
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160206)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:45pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:There's really only one thing in Transformers lore that's worse than Unicron, but its something rather obscure and is even less of a character than Unicron, basically just a mindless animal: the Beast of Time known as The Hytherion.



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Had a quick read. That seems far too high concept for these films...
Yeah, it's more of an abstract entity closer to something Lovecraftian than the much more basic concept of Robot Satan that Unicron has going for him.
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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 12:45pm CDT
We're more likely to get a one-up on The Last Knight's Transformers History stuff by involving the actual God and Satan from the Bible than we'll ever get anything like that.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160208)
Posted by william-james88 on April 27th, 2023 @ 1:42pm CDT
To follow up on the big reveals from today's trailer, we now know that Unicron will be played by Colman Domingo. Colman Domingo is a well known stage actor and is excited to play the character. Here is one of the sources for this news: https://www.facebook.com/transformersmo ... swdQ0&_rdr

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Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 1:55pm CDT
He sounds like a


Coolman


for the role.

:michaelbay:
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160211)
Posted by Brokebot on April 27th, 2023 @ 1:59pm CDT
Like I've said before, Transformers movies are now relegated to the same status as Star Wars, Star Trek, Disney, and the MCU - I just don't care anymore. They're just not worth getting excited about, either for or against.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 27th, 2023 @ 2:11pm CDT
william-james88 wrote: Colman Domingo

So, are you familiar with this actor? Are you excited about Unicron being in the film?


I had a look and remember him from Candyman (2021). Unfortunately that was a really boring remake. So not a great measure of his ability, I'm sure. As long as he makes the role his own and doesn't try to imitate Orson Welles, that will be good enough.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160214)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2023 @ 2:13pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote: Colman Domingo

So, are you familiar with this actor? Are you excited about Unicron being in the film?


I had a look and remember him from Candyman (2021). Unfortunately that was a really boring remake. So not a great measure of his ability, I'm sure. As long as he makes the role his own and doesn't try to imitate Orson Welles, that will be good enough.
Not like Orson Welles's Unicron ever really sounded like Orson Welles to begin with.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160215)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 27th, 2023 @ 2:16pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote: Colman Domingo

So, are you familiar with this actor? Are you excited about Unicron being in the film?


I had a look and remember him from Candyman (2021). Unfortunately that was a really boring remake. So not a great measure of his ability, I'm sure. As long as he makes the role his own and doesn't try to imitate Orson Welles, that will be good enough.
Not like Orson Welles's Unicron ever really sounded like Orson Welles to begin with.


True enough but, you know. How many Starscreams have we had over the years that have tried to be Chris Latta? etc, etc

BW (UT, by extension) and Animated have been the only times we've been given unique Optimus and Megatron, for example.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2023 @ 2:27pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote: Colman Domingo

So, are you familiar with this actor? Are you excited about Unicron being in the film?


I had a look and remember him from Candyman (2021). Unfortunately that was a really boring remake. So not a great measure of his ability, I'm sure. As long as he makes the role his own and doesn't try to imitate Orson Welles, that will be good enough.
Not like Orson Welles's Unicron ever really sounded like Orson Welles to begin with.


True enough but, you know. How many Starscreams have we had over the years that have tried to be Chris Latta? etc, etc
Two:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:BW and Animated
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160217)
Posted by Deadput on April 27th, 2023 @ 2:38pm CDT
I would say the WFC/FOC games at the least also attempted that type of voice for Starscream.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160218)
Posted by bluecatcinema on April 27th, 2023 @ 2:42pm CDT
Well, this was a big surprise. Unicron is coming, and his design is awesome.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160221)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on April 27th, 2023 @ 3:39pm CDT
Hey, he has the ears! You're all happy now, right? :D

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Honestly though, this trailer looks amazing, I love the robot action, I actually like Mirage, and I'm surprised it's not just Optimus Primal doing the talking but the fact that we still see no robot modes for the other Maximals feels weird.

Overall, I'm kinda partially disappointed because I was hoping they would, you know, try with the story. I still might be surprised, but after hearing that the producers confirmed that this is a direct prequel to the movie series that ended with the revelation that Unicron IS Earth and has been Earth for billions of years, only for this movie to say that Unicron hasn't even been to Earth yet, doesn't give me good feels.

I want it to be good, I hope I'm just being pissy. However I'll wait until there's a dvd release.
Re: New Rise of the Beasts Trailer Featuring More Characters and Other Surprises (2160222)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 27th, 2023 @ 3:42pm CDT
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Maybe we are missing context for this shot. But I think, given the WW2 BB stuff is impossible since the BB movie. It's likely you can forget anything "canon" to TLK at least.

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