New Round of Possible Figures for Legacy 2024 Leaked

There's some interesting stuff here -

Munkky wrote:More 2024 Legacy leaks have dropped, courtesy of JtPrime17:

Tra Gen Legacy UNI Core Rock 2
Product Number: F8522

Tra Gen Legacy UNI Deluxe Slipstream
Product Number: F8534

Tra Gen Legacy UNI Deluxe RID Sideburn
Product Number: F8538

Tra Gen Legacy UNI Deluxe G1 Quake
Product Number: F8536

Tra Gen Legacy Star Seekers Deluxe Lockdown
Product Number: G0233

Tra Gen Legacy Star Seekers Deluxe Filch
Product Number: G0234

Tra Gen Legacy Star Seekers Leader Thundertron
Product Number: G0236

I think Thundertron is going to be a retool of Tigerhawk, and I will get it if it is.

I'm excited for slipstream and interested in the core rock bot
The rest not so much

I'll potentially be a huge sucker for the star Seekers capsule though. I'll be extremely sad if I don't find thundertron

Outside of the Star Seeker capsule, the only figure in this line-up I'm definitely getting is Side Burn, possibly Slipstream too if she looks decent. I'm surprised by the Metalhawk package refresh, has it been a popular toy? Also, was there ever a credible leak of a Ramjet package refresh, or was that just speculation?

Interesting to think that the selection for Animated was a character that didn't actually make it into the show? There are some really interesting character designs in the Allspark Almanacs that I'd love to see in figure form.
EG

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Interesting to think that the selection for Animated was a character that didn't actually make it into the show?

All because he's an easy head-swap redeco option for the Animated Optimus that's coming before him

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Interesting to think that the selection for Animated was a character that didn't actually make it into the show?

All because he's an easy head-swap redeco option for the Animated Optimus that's coming before him

Oh, I see. Still that would be really cool if the Legacy line did showcase other characters that never made it beyond concept art.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Interesting to think that the selection for Animated was a character that didn't actually make it into the show?

All because he's an easy head-swap redeco option for the Animated Optimus that's coming before him

Oh, I see. Still that would be really cool if the Legacy line did showcase other characters that never made it beyond concept art.

Only if they weren't G1-ified like all Legacy Animated characters are expected to be.

Sabrblade wrote:Only if they weren't G1-ified like all Legacy Animated characters are expected to be.

That's true. I know a lot of people that weren't happy with the Animated figures represented so far. Motormaster does seem more "Animated" than prior ones. That's the problem with stylised aesthetics, I guess. The "easy" option is to base all the figures on a generic template. Motormaster did build my hopes up though. Especially as the Almanacs are So expensive now.

Not sure how I feel about Slipstream at Deluxe, hopefully that Windblade mold ends up being good. Confirmed Filch makes me weirdly happy.

Emerje wrote:

Tra Gen Legacy Star Seekers Deluxe Roadpig
Product Number: G0232

Prowl repaint?

Could also be Crashbar due to the triple headlight chest and so they're not repainting a black bike into another black bike.

Emerje wrote:

Tra Gen Legacy Star Seekers Leader Thundertron
Product Number: G0236

Isn't Thundertron reported to be a new mold? I guess he's a Leo Prime retool now, but as a Leader? Wait and see I guess. Yeah, I know, we had Cosmos and Override, but this guy isn't them. That'll be a big cat unless they decide to scrap the lion mode all together.

Getting a new mold Voyager Thundertron out of nowhere was weird enough, getting that and also a Leader now is downright baffling at this point.

Emerje wrote:I'm guessing the two unnamed Deluxes will be Cannonball (Crankcase repaint?) and Maybe Axer which would be kinda funny since he's shared tools with both Roadpig and Lockdown.

Isn't there only one unnamed Deluxe, and then just the general assortment number?

Metalhawk didn't seem like much of a seller, I see him all the time and got mine during one of the Pulse sales.

Incidentally, Slipstream will definitely be a repaint of the leaked Legacy Cyberverse Windblade similar to what the Takara Tomy Legends line did.

I wonder if Quake will be a heavy retool of Kingdom Warpath, they still haven't reused that mold yet.

sol magnus wrote:I think Thundertron is going to be a retool of Tigerhawk, and I will get it if it is.

Wouldn't it be weird to repaint a blue and white tiger into... a blue and white tiger?

Emerje

Munkky wrote:Also, was there ever a credible leak of a Ramjet package refresh, or was that just speculation?

Ramjet PR was leaked for this year and then seemingly replaced with the Dirge PR we did get.

Emerje wrote:Wouldn't it be weird to repaint a blue and white tiger into... a blue and white tiger?

They could always remove the wings and replace them with those extra bits Thundertron has along his sides. In theory it could work.

Thundertron is a lion.

And his beast head becomes his robot torso. Tigerhawk's beast head becomes his right shoulder.

I'm not existed for Splitstream at all. There's high chance she'll be just a simple repaint or a pretool of something else, and she won't even look like herself or even look like a fembot.
However, if they go the Takara Legends route and make her as a pretool of Windblade, she could be good.

Not seeing anything remotely interesting in that list, personally.


That said, Slipstream does intrigue me just based off her deco. The only downside for me is that it will likely be an Animated Starscream repaint not a the ER figure, but only because I'm not into the animated show. I'd probably by it if it were an ER repaint just to go with my other Decepticon Seekers. However, I do see the point in it resembling the actual media it's sourced from and should represent that look.

Who knows, if/when I actually see it and like the deco maybe I will buy it just because it looks so good. And, since it is a fembot it looking slightly different than the other seekers could make sense

Ugh...Metalhawk is already keeping my local shelves pretty warm, (but not as bad as Jhaxis and Armada Starscream). Or maybe my area just got way too many cases of that wave.

--B-- wrote:Ugh...Metalhawk is already keeping my local shelves pretty warm, (but not as bad as Jhaxis and Armada Starscream). Or maybe my area just got way too many cases of that wave.

The last time I was at a large toy store, there were about four or five Metalhawks all together on the shelf, perhaps a solid case of them, but this was shortly after that wave came out so at the time it was too early to say whether or not it was shelf-warming. I might re-visit that store soon and I'll see how many Metalhawks there still are, but as I mentioned in an earlier post, I am surprised that it's getting a package refresh.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm not existed for Splitstream at all. There's high chance she'll be just a simple repaint or a pretool of something else, and she won't even look like herself or even look like a fembot.
However, if they go the Takara Legends route and make her as a pretool of Windblade, she could be good.

She'll likely be just a retool of the Windblade that's coming out before her.

Did I miss the reveal of Legacy Silverbolt and Tigerhawk?

There was the earlier reveal with Nova Prime and Bludgeon and now there is an announcement for yet another wave... I feel like they skipped one.

Sculyblast wrote:Did I miss the reveal of Legacy Silverbolt and Tigerhawk?

There was the earlier reveal with Nova Prime and Bludgeon and now there is an announcement for yet another wave... I feel like they skipped one.

Bludgeon's wave is supposed to be the last wave of this year. Silverbolt, Tigerhawk, and everything other retail listing leak is for next year's releases (some of which we'll probably see at Pulsecon).

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm not existed for Splitstream at all. There's high chance she'll be just a simple repaint or a pretool of something else, and she won't even look like herself or even look like a fembot.
However, if they go the Takara Legends route and make her as a pretool of Windblade, she could be good.

She'll likely be just a retool of the Windblade that's coming out before her.

It worked the the Legends version so it will be here as well. Let's hope that new Windblade will not be flimsy like the original.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm not existed for Splitstream at all. There's high chance she'll be just a simple repaint or a pretool of something else, and she won't even look like herself or even look like a fembot.
However, if they go the Takara Legends route and make her as a pretool of Windblade, she could be good.

She'll likely be just a retool of the Windblade that's coming out before her.

It worked the the Legends version so it will be here as well. Let's hope that new Windblade will not be flimsy like the original.

It's based on her Cyberverse look so it shouldn't bee that complex and fiddly.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:It's based on her Cyberverse look so it shouldn't bee that complex and fiddly.

Emerje

I just hope that the jet will not be just a girl doing the "superman" with a cape.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:It's based on her Cyberverse look so it shouldn't bee that complex and fiddly.

Emerje

I just hope that the jet will not be just a girl doing the "superman" with a cape.

If Shadow Striker is anything to go by, the figure could just have Cyberverse Slipstream's head and colors, while the body looks nothing like Slipstream's Cyberverse character model, detail-wise.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:It's based on her Cyberverse look so it shouldn't bee that complex and fiddly.

Emerje

I just hope that the jet will not be just a girl doing the "superman" with a cape.

If Shadow Striker is anything to go by, the figure could just have Cyberverse Slipstream's head and colors, while the body looks nothing like Slipstream's Cyberverse character model, detail-wise.

The listing doesn't have a universe attached to it, it doesn't necessarily have to be the Cyberverse version.

Emerje

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Interesting to think that the selection for Animated was a character that didn't actually make it into the show?

All because he's an easy head-swap redeco option for the Animated Optimus that's coming before him

Oh, I see. Still that would be really cool if the Legacy line did showcase other characters that never made it beyond concept art.

Motormaster and the Stunticons did make it past concept. They were BotCon exclusives in 2011. Their only (albeit major) flaw was that they didn't combine, all having been redecos of previously released figures.

So far all the Legacy attempts at Animated updates have been failures, yes even Prowl, I'm still looking forward to Motormaster. See if they added a combination function.

I wish in the wake of the Hound mold used for Data Clerk OP that the Powers
would use the mold again and give us Scorch AND another Shattered Glass figure Ravage!!!

Rodimus Prime wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Interesting to think that the selection for Animated was a character that didn't actually make it into the show?

All because he's an easy head-swap redeco option for the Animated Optimus that's coming before him

Oh, I see. Still that would be really cool if the Legacy line did showcase other characters that never made it beyond concept art.

Motormaster and the Stunticons did make it past concept. They were BotCon exclusives in 2011. Their only (albeit major) flaw was that they didn't combine, all having been redecos of previously released figures.

So far all the Legacy attempts at Animated updates have been failures, yes even Prowl, I'm still looking forward to Motormaster. See if they added a combination function.

For a second I thought maybe they would make this a combiner…
But besides just getting Legacy Menasor completed within the last 6 months, there’s almost no way this could be a combiner torso at the voyager class.
That could’ve been really cool, but doesn’t seem realistic.

And let's face it. Many of the complaints about the Animated Stunticons not being a combiner came from people who wanted a new Classics-style Menasor and didn't really care about the Animated universe or its aesthetic. They just wanted a modern G1-ish Menasor and were mad that BotCon 2011 wasn't gonna give them one (as if they would have ever happened in 2011 regardless).

Sabrblade wrote:And let's face it. Many of the complaints about the Animated Stunticons not being a combiner came from people who wanted a new Classics-style Menasor and didn't really care about the Animated universe or its aesthetic. They just wanted a modern G1-ish Menasor and were mad that BotCon 2011 wasn't gonna give them one (as if they would have ever happened in 2011 regardless).

This is what bugs me about Geewunners. They are never, EVER happy. Unless it's exactly the same g1 figures EVERY SINGLE DAMN TIME, they whine, wail, gnash teeth, and cry until the streets are flowing with saliva and tears. Each "new" line (and I have to put new because at this point HasTak has no damned originality and can't create but Geewun redux) the Geewunners complain that it's not, you know, G1 despite it still essentially being g1. You know what current toys have that G1 toys never had? Knees and elbows. Seriously they need to quit their crying and just accept that we aren't in G1 anymore and either move on or sulk and hide in a corner and STFU.


(panting as annoyed rage subsides)

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:And let's face it. Many of the complaints about the Animated Stunticons not being a combiner came from people who wanted a new Classics-style Menasor and didn't really care about the Animated universe or its aesthetic. They just wanted a modern G1-ish Menasor and were mad that BotCon 2011 wasn't gonna give them one (as if they would have ever happened in 2011 regardless).

This is what bugs me about Geewunners. They are never, EVER happy. Unless it's exactly the same g1 figures EVERY SINGLE DAMN TIME, they whine, wail, gnash teeth, and cry until the streets are flowing with saliva and tears. Each "new" line (and I have to put new because at this point HasTak has no damned originality and can't create but Geewun redux) the Geewunners complain that it's not, you know, G1 despite it still essentially being g1. You know what current toys have that G1 toys never had? Knees and elbows. Seriously they need to quit their crying and just accept that we aren't in G1 anymore and either move on or sulk and hide in a corner and STFU.


(panting as annoyed rage subsides)

Somebody needs to try decaf. By the way, shock treatments only sound scary.

I'm still very, VERY happy with Transformers since Studio Series and the Siege line.

We get mini G1 "masterpieces" over and over. We have characters made that never, ever had their proper toys before like so many IDW characters and comics character like Jhiaxus.
Plus, even though the Animated, Prime, and RiD hommages are not perfect, they are still made. Finally, the upcoming bots are very exiting as always.

Seriously, those who still manage to complain are like those fat kids in front of an all-you-can-eat buffet that complain "there's nothing to eat."

Some interesting listings for sure, but I'll wait until we start seeing stuff before thinking and looking into them too much. So far, the stuff in Legacy that I was most excited for have been more letdowns than actual joy. As a result, I have low expectations for any figure from 3 of my 4 favorite shows, with BW being the only one to be consistently good, where as Prime (with the exception of the Skyquake mold), Animated, and Cyberverse are extremely hit and miss.

Nothing really stands out as "must have" for 2024 at this point. If the rock based weaponizers look coo I'll probably get them. At this point however I pretty much have almost everything I want that isn't a combiner. Also, no combiners on the roster for 2024, I know some will be disappointed, but hopefully more of the obscure ones that haven't happened yet will happen in time.

AS a fan of combiners, I'm perfectly ok with Animated Motormaster not combining. Its a different idea for a team, but it still very much works. Not all teams (Dinobots originally , Insecticons etc... have to be combiners).

The deluxe Optimus Prime still baffles me a bit. It seems at this time to exist merely so Hasbro can say they've had an Optimus in the the 5 years at every Price Point (except Titan...)

As per usual with these lists, there's no mention of the CC or Titan. We can all make guesses, but have there been any legit insider rumors yet?

Personally, I'd like to see Tidal Wave as the Titan, but if he was the Commander, I'd love to see Cyberverse Iaconus as the Titan.

o.supreme wrote:As per usual with these lists, there's no mention of the CC or Titan. We can all make guesses, but have there been any legit insider rumors yet?

Back when Hasbro unveiled Armada Megatron, they strongly hinted (without stating outright) at a forthcoming Tidal Wave figure to combine with him, but whether that will be a Commander or a smaller remains to be seen.

I haven't seen anyone say it yet but legacy rock is an obvious Rock Lord (could just be a code name though and might be something like animated laserbeak as he was a rock guitar?)

I'll need to wait on the actual reveals for these figures before I can make a judgement. They ALL sound good as a simple text description, but then when you see what is actually done with them, they can become less appealing.

DeathReviews wrote:I'll need to wait on the actual reveals for these figures before I can make a judgement. They ALL sound good as a simple text description, but then when you see what is actually done with them, they can become less appealing.

*glares at Shadowstriker*

o.supreme wrote:AS a fan of combiners, I'm perfectly ok with Animated Motormaster not combining. Its a different idea for a team, but it still very much works. Not all teams (Dinobots originally , Insecticons etc... have to be combiners).

Although there were unrealised plans for Devastator in Animated. I did like that they subverted the combiners in that series.

o.supreme wrote: It seems at this time to exist merely so Hasbro can say they've had an Optimus in the the 5 years at every Price Point (except Titan...)

Don't tempt them. There are still a couple designs that could be upscaled...


Powermaster Optimus Prime (Not the Ginrai redesign)

TFWiki wrote:The third version, would quite possibly have been the most gimmick loaded Transformer in the history of the line, simultaneously being a Powermaster, Headmaster, and Triple Changer. The Headmaster also would have been a Triple Changer, turning into a sort of armored four-wheeled rover (Roller II?) and robot as well as a rather silly looking Optimus Prime head with four vertically aligned wheels jutting off the sides. It seems that when the extra Headmaster gimmick was scrapped, the super mode head remained separate rather than being reintegrated into the trailer hitch such as on the earliest design. Notably, the body of this design is extremely close to the final design.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

TFWiki wrote:The third version, would quite possibly have been the most gimmick loaded Transformer in the history of the line, simultaneously being a Powermaster, Headmaster, and Triple Changer. The Headmaster also would have been a Triple Changer, turning into a sort of armored four-wheeled rover (Roller II?) and robot as well as a rather silly looking Optimus Prime head with four vertically aligned wheels jutting off the sides. It seems that when the extra Headmaster gimmick was scrapped, the super mode head remained separate rather than being reintegrated into the trailer hitch such as on the earliest design. Notably, the body of this design is extremely close to the final design.

OH F YOU, now I want that abomination!

-Kanrabat- wrote:OH F YOU, now I want that abomination!

I dunno I think it needs more guns (and wheels)

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:OH F YOU, now I want that abomination!

I dunno I think it needs more guns (and wheels)

More guns, for sure.

Armada Prime really is just that good, isn't he?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Armada Prime really is just that good, isn't he?

IMO, he's the best Commander after Sky Lynx.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Armada Prime really is just that good, isn't he?

I'll know when Amazon decides to ship him to me. Delayed until September it seems.

Some thoughts on the recently leaked list:
No surprise about the listing itself, but it's still a relief to see Swoop. Especially being leader class.
My gut tells me this leader Soundwave is not a G1 version.
I know the designs are somewhat different, but with a Steeljaw on the way, I'm assuming we'll see a Core G1 Ravage in '25.
Of the questionable listings, I'm anxious to see what the "...86 Bumblebee" is.
Not sure how the listing for Sunstreaker would be correct rather than a mislabeling for SS86; again, my gut tells me Hastak received (and/or saw) enough feedback that this character needs a post-pandemic release, and is making it happen.
I'm also interested to see what has been done with the design of "Animated" Motormaster, but with the previous Animated releases, my bar of expectations is pretty much on the floor.

Still hoping that G1 Hound happens, and surprised that none of the lesser known Insecticons are being released knowing they'll just be retools/repaints of Shrapnel and Bombshell.

At most it looks like I'd get a dozen figures from this list. More likely, around 7-8.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm also interested to see what has been done with the design of "Animated" Motormaster, but with the previous Animated releases, my bar of expectations is pretty much on the floor.

It's likely just a head retool of the Voyager Animated Optimus that's coming before it, since that's what Animated Motormaster looks like and is what his original toy was.

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:And let's face it. Many of the complaints about the Animated Stunticons not being a combiner came from people who wanted a new Classics-style Menasor and didn't really care about the Animated universe or its aesthetic. They just wanted a modern G1-ish Menasor and were mad that BotCon 2011 wasn't gonna give them one (as if they would have ever happened in 2011 regardless).

This is what bugs me about Geewunners. They are never, EVER happy. Unless it's exactly the same g1 figures EVERY SINGLE DAMN TIME, they whine, wail, gnash teeth, and cry until the streets are flowing with saliva and tears. Each "new" line (and I have to put new because at this point HasTak has no damned originality and can't create but Geewun redux) the Geewunners complain that it's not, you know, G1 despite it still essentially being g1. You know what current toys have that G1 toys never had? Knees and elbows. Seriously they need to quit their crying and just accept that we aren't in G1 anymore and either move on or sulk and hide in a corner and STFU.

OK, just for clarification, was this directed at me (since I mentioned the lack of combining in my post), or were you ranting at Geewunners in general?

First-Aid wrote:This is what bugs me about Geewunners. They are never, EVER happy. Unless it's exactly the same g1 figures EVERY SINGLE DAMN TIME, they whine, wail, gnash teeth, and cry until the streets are flowing with saliva and tears. Each "new" line (and I have to put new because at this point HasTak has no damned originality and can't create but Geewun redux) the Geewunners complain that it's not, you know, G1 despite it still essentially being g1. You know what current toys have that G1 toys never had? Knees and elbows. Seriously they need to quit their crying and just accept that we aren't in G1 anymore and either move on or sulk and hide in a corner and STFU.


(panting as annoyed rage subsides)

Don't mince words. How do you REALLY feel? I find it ironic that you choose to complain about someone crying and whining by . . . crying and whining. Believe it or not, everyone has the right to have, and extoll the virtues of, a preferred aesthetic. Not just you. Some of us have been collecting these things since the mid 80's, when these characters were established and first entered the culture. Seeing these characters redesigned as something that doesn't match their established look and features is a bit like seeing a documentary of the American Revolution with Ru Paul cast as George Washington. "Creative" and "innovative" as it may be, it's not historically accurate and therein lies the issue. Create a new character. Stop recreating existing ones. But maybe that's just me. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

As a devoted Geewunner, G1 toys make up less than half of my current collection. I collected Armada, Energon, Cybertron, RID, Beast Wars, Alternators, Universe, Generations, as well as a good number of other transforming lines that had no connection to the Transformers at all. I do have a few Bayverse and Animated figures, but I have to admit they were gifts by well-meaning family members. If I like it, I'll get it.