Paramount CEO Brad Grey on Transformers: Bumblebee Spin-Off

I honestly don't care if the following movies are awful or anything I'll see them just to say I did.


I grew up with Transformers Cybertron and the movies so I kinda have an obligation to see the movies.

Maybe the spin-offs will be different teams and actually be watchable.

I love the movie TFs and can't wait for more of them and the associated toylines. Is the only screen incarnation of TF I've ever really enjoyed.


Hm. If they really want to cut the budget they coooould do it stop-motion with Hasbro toys like folks on youtube have done. Ok probably too low budget but at least then the CGI models and the toys would look identical.

The way I see it is it is Transformers. Is it the best Transformers has to offer? No. Is it better than a bunch of other fictions? Yes, because it is still Transformers. Therefore, be happy to be able to enjoy more Transformers.

Honestly, I can think of a ton of other characters that I would rather see a solo adventure about aside from BB. But I understand Hasbro & Paramount have done a good job of either killing off other characters that would have had good solo adventures, or not introducing others.

I just wonder if he will have his voice back. Sorry... I never bought the line in RoTF (during sam's "going away to college" speech that B was "faking it" for sympathy.)

It was just poor writing, that somehow spilled over to the additional sequels.

I enjoy transformers movie series look forward to moremto come it's only time get to see bots what they realistic look

Questions:
Who's the star of the movie going to be?

Is this going to be a silent film or a G1 Wreck-Gar-like movie?

Will he be in car mode for half the film?

I don't like the movies (Except the first) but it funds Generations so I wish them the best.

Having a bumblebee spin off will be absolutely ridiculous, the last thing I wanna see is bumblebee making funny noises to communicate to who ever.

I love the movievrese... but.. why Bumblebee??? we should go forward and pick cliffjumper, no more yellow cars please...

When has building a movie around a guy who doesn't talk been a good idea, at any time between the death of Charlie Chaplin and now?

I'm excited for some spotlights. And the kids get their Bee movie. Overall, good for me

Nemesis Primal wrote:When has building a movie around a guy who doesn't talk been a good idea, at any time between the death of Charlie Chaplin and now?

Whenever they get around to making the Legend of Zelda movie.

Gee! i hope they dont over do it!

Great idea! That's exactly what they need to move the Transformers franchise forward again!



With store shelved being backed up with random characters, adding more of a character who can't speak is sure to help out!



WHAT'S THIS? A FRANCHISE WITH AN OVERABUNDANCE OF BEES? MY BRIEFCASE FULL OF BEES OUGHT TO PUT A STOP TO THAT!





fu*king idiots.

Bleh. I guess I shouldn't complain. I don't plan on seeing any more bay-style movies anyway. Still, now I have more yellow crap clogging up store shelves to look forward to.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Great idea! That's exactly what they need to move the Transformers franchise forward again!

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With store shelved being backed up with random characters, adding more of a character who can't speak is sure to help out!

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WHAT'S THIS? A FRANCHISE WITH AN OVERABUNDANCE OF BEES? MY BRIEFCASE FULL OF BEES OUGHT TO PUT A STOP TO THAT!

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fu*king idiots.

Bleh. I guess I shouldn't complain. I don't plan on seeing any more bay-style movies anyway. Still, now I have more yellow crap clogging up store shelves to look forward to.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yay for new movies, I've always liked them. But I think a Bumblebee movie is more than we need, especially since he's already the most popular character in the franchise right now.
Unless they can find a way to make a prequel, on Cybertron before he lost his voice... Adapt bumblebee at tiger pax or something. Then we could get a chance to see some established characters who've since been killed again.

Whifflefire wrote:Yay for new movies, I've always liked them. But I think a Bumblebee movie is more than we need, especially since he's already the most popular character in the franchise right now.
Unless they can find a way to make a prequel, on Cybertron before he lost his voice... Adapt bumblebee at tiger pax or something. Then we could get a chance to see some established characters who've since been killed again.

I'm actually anticipating the Bee movie being a prequel and showing him young and rambunctuous, and then the war and him losing his voice, and ultimately him being sent to Earth ahead of the rest

Guys a spinoff doesn't mean it will take place at the same time as Transformers 5.



For all we know it's a prequel

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Great idea! That's exactly what they need to move the Transformers franchise forward again!

2011-07-30 18.23.02.jpg

With store shelved being backed up with random characters, adding more of a character who can't speak is sure to help out!

2012-04-20 17.42.58.jpg

WHAT'S THIS? A FRANCHISE WITH AN OVERABUNDANCE OF BEES? MY BRIEFCASE FULL OF BEES OUGHT TO PUT A STOP TO THAT!

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fu*king idiots.

Bleh. I guess I shouldn't complain. I don't plan on seeing any more bay-style movies anyway. Still, now I have more yellow crap clogging up store shelves to look forward to.

Nic Cage speaks for us all.

Or at least some of us.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:When has building a movie around a guy who doesn't talk been a good idea, at any time between the death of Charlie Chaplin and now?

Whenever they get around to making the Legend of Zelda movie.

You sure they wouldn't just have be able Link talk like they did for the cartoon?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:When has building a movie around a guy who doesn't talk been a good idea, at any time between the death of Charlie Chaplin and now?

Whenever they get around to making the Legend of Zelda movie.

You sure they wouldn't just have be able Link talk like they did for the cartoon?

It would be weird if they didn't. Silent Protagonist is a thing in certain games because it's supposed to make you feel more like the character is you, so you're supplying the character's "voice" on your own rather than the story putting words in your mouth. Movie Bee is not not the same as that.

I just realized something! Optimus Prime is a mystery himself in the movie universe, why not give him a spinoff instead? I mean, Bumblebee is not all that interesting. He went bland once Revenge of the Fallen first revealed him at that lawn attack scene. Not saying he's the only one and Optimus is a great character either, it's just that the origins of Optimus as a great Prime and a leader deserves some attention because he'll have an adventure going from the bottom to the top.

BBB is a kid appealing character, I think that his spin-off is attempt to make Movieverse more kids-oriented.

However, that is what makes him such uninteresting character. In the end it's some kind of Big, mettalic Pikachu. In Comics thay tried to change that, but every movie so far, Michael Bay showed them all his middle finger.

Hasbro's 2016 Jeffries Consumer Conference was held today and the slide show can be seen here. While you will find graphs of record revenues and growing profit margins (I guess those cost reduction tactics are paying off), with Transformers charaters littered throughout, one very interesting slide comes mid way. It is when they are discussing the media angle to their franchises and speak of the Transformers Cinematic Unvierse. The three upcoming films are presented and each have a logo. While the logo for the Last Knight is the finished logo, the other two are similar to the stand in logo Transformers 5 used to sport.

The relevant image is below.

Hope everyone's a fan of Movieverse and Generations, 'cause it looks like we aren't getting anything else...

Noideaforaname wrote:Hope everyone's a fan of Movieverse and Generations, 'cause it looks like we aren't getting anything else...

There will be more RID

^ But will they get toys? I don't see the toyline managing to run three separate sub-lines concurrently; a "collector" line and a "kiddie" line seems to be the maximum. And with a movie coming out every year now, there's not enough time to run a RiD line (much less get anything beyond the main characters yet again).

Noideaforaname wrote:^ But will they get toys? I don't see the toyline managing to run three separate sub-lines concurrently; a "collector" line and a "kiddie" line seems to be the maximum. And with a movie coming out every year now, there's not enough time to run a RiD line (much less get anything beyond the main characters yet again).

Do you think kids really give a crap about anything outside of the movies and possibly generations these days?

Noideaforaname wrote:^ But will they get toys? I don't see the toyline managing to run three separate sub-lines concurrently; a "collector" line and a "kiddie" line seems to be the maximum. And with a movie coming out every year now, there's not enough time to run a RiD line (much less get anything beyond the main characters yet again).

They have been doing this for 9 years. We had Prime, the movies and Generations at the same time, all these toys below are from 2014:







This is just status quo.

Think about it, as far as tv since 2007 there has been Animated, Prime and RID

Within that time we had 4 Films

And also at the same time we had the following lines which made up Classics: Universe, RTS and Generations.

They even had Rescue Bots at the same time of all this catering to an even younger line.

I really do not see why after almost 10 years any of this would change, Hasbro boasts in the same slideshow that they are producing more product than ever and it has increased their revenue and gross margin. No reason they would stop that.

^ That's a touch misleading. Prime the cartoon ended in 2013, it's toyline continued on as filler until AoE came and completely replaced it (apart from the odd straggler).
With a movie coming every year now, there's just not going to be time for anything other than a token appearance by the cartoon's toyline -- Movie toys hit shelves ~May, get active releases until Christmas, and leftover stock sits for a few months more, and soon gets replaced by the next Movie toys. The only chance RiD can get is right after the holidays but before the summer movie season begins, which is just dreadful.

They can run Generations alongside, obviously (likely because it's aimed at a different demographic), but I don't think they can run a third line. Especially since Movie and Cartoon both fit the same "kids" niche.
And since Generations is bent on these line-wide gimmicks and being SUPER G1, there's not much chance of them sneaking in someone from the current cartoon.


And Rescue Bots is a different aisle entirely.

Noideaforaname wrote:With a movie coming every year now, there's just not going to be time for anything other than a token appearance by the cartoon's toyline --

We'll see. I'll be on the optimistic side of things

Pfffff... "Cinematic Universe." If I didn't know any better, I'd say this was a good thing, but in reality I know it's just going to prolong suffering with the Bayverse.

Every studio in Hollywood wants their own "Cinematic Universe," drooling with imagined riches after the successes of Marvel.

I even saw reports of a supposed Men in Black/21 Jump Street crossover film that was being considered.

We'll never have a proper cinematic universe with Bay at the helm.

He ruined the traditional franchise look with horrors like Que, Brains, Ironhide, Frenzy, Hound, Drift and the Twins.

How can the franchise ever be taken seriously with robots sporting hair, buckteeth and samurai
Armour?

The reason franchises like the Avengers, Lord of the Rings, Batman and X Men are successful is respect for the source material.

Bay hasn't shown that since he began. Weak writing and silliness are his legacy.

Windsweeper wrote:Que, Brains, Ironhide, Frenzy, Hound, Drift and the Twins.

Of these, I actually liked most of them. Que was a pretty sweet character with the whole Einstein Genius thing; Ironhide was finally the Ironhide that looked as badass as you would expect from the character and to me is the best representation of him we have got. Hound was was essentially movie Bulkhead which was awesome and he loved his guns, just like some other characters we know from other universes, and Drift was still cool looking.

He has homaged some very basic source material, but left most of it and at times all of it behind, but that is ok. It's a whole new take, and some of the movie looks are still very cool and very awesome and the new personalities alright. Hound really should have been named Bulkhead, but it's something different, and I can appreciate it for what it is

Oh god, the Bay movies will never end. I keep hoping for a reboot...