Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse
Sunday, December 15th, 2019 2:58PM CST
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The new deluxe Cyberverse toys are by far the toy which fans are most curious about. We all know more or less what to expect from more toys from the Studio Series or War for Cybertron Trilogy line but this is completely new.
I will start by saying this, while these deluxes are the same price point as a Studio Series and WFC deluxe they are as different from either of those as a Studio Series toy is from a WFC toy. It's a different feel and aesthetic. This review is for Shockwave. Now, right off the bat my first impression was that he was far less interesting than the other two, but there is a good reason for that: he already had a decent toy. Megatron and Optimus are both infinitely better than whatever else you can get in that scale in that line, but Shockwave had several good toys, in whatever scale you wanted. Unlike all other warrior class toys, his warrior figure did actually feel worthwhile. The fact that the spider tank needs him to have crucial articulation like knees and elbows made him leagues better than any other warrior figure.
So now we have this deluxe which costs a third more and the big question for me was, is he a third better? The short answer is objectively yes. As you will see in the images below, he is gorgeously painted on all sides, which really helps in the tank mode. He has way more articulation like ankles, head, waist and a wrist. He has lots of accessories, like a nicely painted gun (a way cooler gun than any other weapon to come with any deluxe this year), two clear effect parts that can combine and a removable clear plastic tube attached to a gun hand that you can insert above his hand. Meaning that unlike many other Shockwaves we got recently, you can give him either two hands or have one be a gun hand. So yeah, he has a lot more to offer. Oh yeah, he also comes with a leg to build Maccadam, but that's a bonus I will write about in another article.
In terms of complexity, objectively he has a lot of steps. He has more steps than the new Studio Series deluxe Soundwave (is also bigger, more articulated, and has more accessories) for instance, if anyone cares about value comparisons between two new toys that cost the same. But the conversion is nothing special. Not only because it's a very straightforward transformation due to how obvious the limb placement is, but also because it's the same transformation we got for the warrior Shockwave. It's more refined, of course, like now you completely replace robot hands with spider tank feet (adding 4 steps to the transformation per arm), but it's still the same brush strokes arriving at a similar alt mode.
Speaking of the alt mode, while the deco is way better than the previous toys we got for this designs (and I do like the front spider feet), I think the warrior looks better. The big cannon is more central while it's too far back on this deluxe. It makes the tank look more on the long side rather than being a more symmetrical X shape. Even though they go more out of their way to make the alt mode different than the robot mode, even so much as adding extra antenna for the tank face to differentiate it from the robot mode chest, the fact that the cannon is smaller makes it look more like the robot on all fours.
Speaking of the cannon, which also fits over the hand, the clear tube connected to it is rather rigid. So it isn't easy to pose. It will revert to whichever pose has it in a relaxed position. This really hurts poseability in robot mode since the gun arm will not keep a bent elbow due to the wire being rigid. Speaking of accessories, his effect parts are compatible with 3mm and 5 mm ports so you can use them for Siege figures too.
You can remove the tube and gun arm for robot mode and it still looks great. The deco helps a lot of course, and he has all the articulation you'd want, but my favourite part is the backpack. Not only can it serve as a place to post his cool gun when hes not using it, but the G1 callback is great. Especially the sculpted circle at the base of it.
In the end, he looks great, feels great and has some really nice accessories. Not a fan of the alt mode, but that is par for the course with Shockwave toys and I knew what I signed up for. He's worth a Siege deluxe price point, more so than I feel the Siege leader is worth his price point, so take that as you will. And now I will leave you with some size comparisons to other deluxe toys.
I will start by saying this, while these deluxes are the same price point as a Studio Series and WFC deluxe they are as different from either of those as a Studio Series toy is from a WFC toy. It's a different feel and aesthetic. This review is for Shockwave. Now, right off the bat my first impression was that he was far less interesting than the other two, but there is a good reason for that: he already had a decent toy. Megatron and Optimus are both infinitely better than whatever else you can get in that scale in that line, but Shockwave had several good toys, in whatever scale you wanted. Unlike all other warrior class toys, his warrior figure did actually feel worthwhile. The fact that the spider tank needs him to have crucial articulation like knees and elbows made him leagues better than any other warrior figure.
So now we have this deluxe which costs a third more and the big question for me was, is he a third better? The short answer is objectively yes. As you will see in the images below, he is gorgeously painted on all sides, which really helps in the tank mode. He has way more articulation like ankles, head, waist and a wrist. He has lots of accessories, like a nicely painted gun (a way cooler gun than any other weapon to come with any deluxe this year), two clear effect parts that can combine and a removable clear plastic tube attached to a gun hand that you can insert above his hand. Meaning that unlike many other Shockwaves we got recently, you can give him either two hands or have one be a gun hand. So yeah, he has a lot more to offer. Oh yeah, he also comes with a leg to build Maccadam, but that's a bonus I will write about in another article.
In terms of complexity, objectively he has a lot of steps. He has more steps than the new Studio Series deluxe Soundwave (is also bigger, more articulated, and has more accessories) for instance, if anyone cares about value comparisons between two new toys that cost the same. But the conversion is nothing special. Not only because it's a very straightforward transformation due to how obvious the limb placement is, but also because it's the same transformation we got for the warrior Shockwave. It's more refined, of course, like now you completely replace robot hands with spider tank feet (adding 4 steps to the transformation per arm), but it's still the same brush strokes arriving at a similar alt mode.
Speaking of the alt mode, while the deco is way better than the previous toys we got for this designs (and I do like the front spider feet), I think the warrior looks better. The big cannon is more central while it's too far back on this deluxe. It makes the tank look more on the long side rather than being a more symmetrical X shape. Even though they go more out of their way to make the alt mode different than the robot mode, even so much as adding extra antenna for the tank face to differentiate it from the robot mode chest, the fact that the cannon is smaller makes it look more like the robot on all fours.
Speaking of the cannon, which also fits over the hand, the clear tube connected to it is rather rigid. So it isn't easy to pose. It will revert to whichever pose has it in a relaxed position. This really hurts poseability in robot mode since the gun arm will not keep a bent elbow due to the wire being rigid. Speaking of accessories, his effect parts are compatible with 3mm and 5 mm ports so you can use them for Siege figures too.
You can remove the tube and gun arm for robot mode and it still looks great. The deco helps a lot of course, and he has all the articulation you'd want, but my favourite part is the backpack. Not only can it serve as a place to post his cool gun when hes not using it, but the G1 callback is great. Especially the sculpted circle at the base of it.
In the end, he looks great, feels great and has some really nice accessories. Not a fan of the alt mode, but that is par for the course with Shockwave toys and I knew what I signed up for. He's worth a Siege deluxe price point, more so than I feel the Siege leader is worth his price point, so take that as you will. And now I will leave you with some size comparisons to other deluxe toys.
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Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047037)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 15th, 2019 @ 7:49pm CST
Call me the post office because I'm gonna deliver
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 15th, 2019 @ 7:49pm CST
william-james88 wrote:bacem wrote:First off, thank you william, for the review so far. Looking at the review, i actually looking forward more to the video review, particularly megatron. As someone who values transformation so much it could become a deal maker/breaker, the way you describes megatron's transformation makes me really curious how it actually goes.
Thanks, working on shockwave now. Usually, we don't news a review once we have our own but since a video review would indeed offer fans something worthwhile, we'll news it when one comes up. I do look forward to you seeing the transformation, it definitely stumped me, especially how the arms are supposed to be positioned. Usually with tank-formers, they go the easy way with either a H Tank with obvious limb placement or the type we've gotten with megs so far where the legs to at the bottom and the arms go on top (Siege Impactor is the latest to do that one). But this guy gives us something really new. Also, I found it pretty genius how they use the tank panels to cover up what would look like hollowness in the legs (something Impactor did not do).
Shockwave should be up soon.
Call me the post office because I'm gonna deliver
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047039)
Posted by STngAR on December 15th, 2019 @ 7:55pm CST
Posted by STngAR on December 15th, 2019 @ 7:55pm CST
Im not collecting the Cyberverse line but I like the blast effects that are coming with them. Wish they would sell just a blast effects set.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047041)
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 15th, 2019 @ 8:03pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 15th, 2019 @ 8:03pm CST
i hope this is a thing they will do with all the cyberverse characters, you know make them fully transformable and articulated less gimmicky
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047060)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 15th, 2019 @ 9:27pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 15th, 2019 @ 9:27pm CST
Dang those deluxes look good. Nice reviews Will!
Also, shame Clobber is basically a 3-step. I might still get her though
Also, shame Clobber is basically a 3-step. I might still get her though
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047126)
Posted by bacem on December 16th, 2019 @ 7:16pm CST
Posted by bacem on December 16th, 2019 @ 7:16pm CST
Just watched chuck's review on separate thread
(https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/chuck-s-reviews-transformers-cyberverse-deluxe-class-megatron-p2047118.php#p2047118)
I now do want this figure. The transformation, while simple, is interesting enough and looks fun to do. I like how the panels folded up, and i like how the effect can attack on his back like a thruster. The balljoint issue is not a problem, nail polish can fix that easily. Will definitely getting this guy.
(https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/chuck-s-reviews-transformers-cyberverse-deluxe-class-megatron-p2047118.php#p2047118)
I now do want this figure. The transformation, while simple, is interesting enough and looks fun to do. I like how the panels folded up, and i like how the effect can attack on his back like a thruster. The balljoint issue is not a problem, nail polish can fix that easily. Will definitely getting this guy.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047129)
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2019 @ 8:12pm CST
Yeah man, that transformation is why I wanted to share as much as I could of this toy with you. While not overly complex (I mean, it's a deluxe) it was still something very new that I had not experienced before.
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2019 @ 8:12pm CST
bacem wrote:Just watched chuck's review on separate thread
(https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/chuck-s-reviews-transformers-cyberverse-deluxe-class-megatron-p2047118.php#p2047118)
I now do want this figure. The transformation, while simple, is interesting enough and looks fun to do. I like how the panels folded up, and i like how the effect can attack on his back like a thruster. The balljoint issue is not a problem, nail polish can fix that easily. Will definitely getting this guy.
Yeah man, that transformation is why I wanted to share as much as I could of this toy with you. While not overly complex (I mean, it's a deluxe) it was still something very new that I had not experienced before.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047131)
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2019 @ 8:18pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2019 @ 8:18pm CST
As I wrote in the site's pictorial review, the big selling factor for the new deluxe Megatron from Cyberverse was the transformation. However, pictures can only go so far, so fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999 has a video review for us where you can now see the transformation I was talking about. Chuck believes this to be the best deluxe Megatron we have ever gotten, and I look forward to more fans getting these to debate whether that's true or not. You'll let us know what you think based on what you have seen so far.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Megatron is a part of the new for 2020 Transformers Cyberverse Deluxe Class line. As many collectors have said, these are the Cyberverse figures they've been waiting for. Megatron features an involved, intuitive transformation that becomes second nature after a few go-rounds. This is by far the best Deluxe Class Megatron figure I've ever handled and highly, highly recommend it.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047132)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 16th, 2019 @ 8:21pm CST
The backpack is what really made me go whoa. Three different points to secure it in place.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 16th, 2019 @ 8:21pm CST
bacem wrote:Just watched chuck's review on separate thread
(https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/chuck-s-reviews-transformers-cyberverse-deluxe-class-megatron-p2047118.php#p2047118)
I now do want this figure. The transformation, while simple, is interesting enough and looks fun to do. I like how the panels folded up, and i like how the effect can attack on his back like a thruster. The balljoint issue is not a problem, nail polish can fix that easily. Will definitely getting this guy.
The backpack is what really made me go whoa. Three different points to secure it in place.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047161)
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 12:04pm CST
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 12:04pm CST
megatron, optimus and shockwave are being sold through google shopping by hasbro toy shop for 19.99 with 20% off
megatron
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 6631263938
shockwave
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 171,prmr:3
optimus
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 9522416837
megatron
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 6631263938
shockwave
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 171,prmr:3
optimus
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 9522416837
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047163)
Posted by william-james88 on December 17th, 2019 @ 12:51pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 17th, 2019 @ 12:51pm CST
hey autobot00, it says product can not be found
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047178)
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 3:14pm CST
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 3:14pm CST
odd, i just clicked all 3 links and they worked. I even copied them to another web browser.
this one displays optimus and megatron
https://www.google.com/search?output=se ... 6617066153
alternatively if you go to google.com/shopping and search "Transformers Toys Cyberverse Deluxe Class" it should take you to megatron and optimus
this one displays optimus and megatron
https://www.google.com/search?output=se ... 6617066153
alternatively if you go to google.com/shopping and search "Transformers Toys Cyberverse Deluxe Class" it should take you to megatron and optimus
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047179)
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 3:16pm CST
heres a screenshot
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 3:16pm CST
autobot00 wrote:odd, i just clicked all 3 links and they worked. I even copied them to another web browser.
this one displays optimus and megatron
https://www.google.com/search?output=se ... 6617066153
alternatively if you go to google.com/shopping and search "Transformers Toys Cyberverse Deluxe Class" it should take you to megatron and optimus
heres a screenshot
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047183)
Posted by no-one on December 17th, 2019 @ 3:30pm CST
What I couldn't figure out or didn't see was the 20% off part. Does that require a coupon code or is that specific to you? I ask because Google Shopping has offered "just me" discount promos before.
Posted by no-one on December 17th, 2019 @ 3:30pm CST
The links worked just fine for me. Might be a different country issue. I know I've clicked retail links intended for other countries and received "not available" messages before getting redirected to the US URL.autobot00 wrote:odd, i just clicked all 3 links and they worked. I even copied them to another web browser.
this one displays optimus and megatron
https://www.google.com/search?output=se ... 6617066153
alternatively if you go to google.com/shopping and search "Transformers Toys Cyberverse Deluxe Class" it should take you to megatron and optimus
What I couldn't figure out or didn't see was the 20% off part. Does that require a coupon code or is that specific to you? I ask because Google Shopping has offered "just me" discount promos before.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047187)
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 3:59pm CST
code: HOLIDAY19 got me the 20% off, check out my screenshot
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 3:59pm CST
carytheone wrote:The links worked just fine for me. Might be a different country issue. I know I've clicked retail links intended for other countries and gotten "not available" messages before getting redirected to the US URL.autobot00 wrote:odd, i just clicked all 3 links and they worked. I even copied them to another web browser.
this one displays optimus and megatron
https://www.google.com/search?output=se ... 6617066153
alternatively if you go to google.com/shopping and search "Transformers Toys Cyberverse Deluxe Class" it should take you to megatron and optimus
What I couldn't figure out or didn't see was the 20% off part. Does that require a coupon code or is that specific to you? I ask because Google Shopping has offered "just me" discount promos before.
code: HOLIDAY19 got me the 20% off, check out my screenshot
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047189)
Posted by no-one on December 17th, 2019 @ 4:18pm CST
Posted by no-one on December 17th, 2019 @ 4:18pm CST
Cool, thanks. I'm going see what kind of trouble I can get intoautobot00 wrote:code: HOLIDAY19 got me the 20% off, check out my screenshotcarytheone wrote:The links worked just fine for me. Might be a different country issue. I know I've clicked retail links intended for other countries and gotten "not available" messages before getting redirected to the US URL.autobot00 wrote:odd, i just clicked all 3 links and they worked. I even copied them to another web browser.
this one displays optimus and megatron
https://www.google.com/search?output=se ... 6617066153
alternatively if you go to google.com/shopping and search "Transformers Toys Cyberverse Deluxe Class" it should take you to megatron and optimus
What I couldn't figure out or didn't see was the 20% off part. Does that require a coupon code or is that specific to you? I ask because Google Shopping has offered "just me" discount promos before.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047204)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 17th, 2019 @ 6:50pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 17th, 2019 @ 6:50pm CST
Thanks to a heads up from Seibertronian autobot00, we have news that the new Transformers Cyberverse deluxe class figures are available through Google shopping. The deluxe class figures are available for the retail price of $19.99 right now, and they are provided for by Hasbro Toy Shop. The figures come complete with free shipping, and there is even a coupon for 20% off the order. The code for this coupon is Holiday19.
All 4 of the deluxes, which consist of Bumblebee, Megatron, Shockwave, and Optimus Prime, are available.
Head on over to the links below, and pick up your Cyberverse deluxes now! And once you have, let us know that you have and then let us know what you think of them once they arrive!
Megatron
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 6631263938
Shockwave
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 171,prmr:3
Optimus
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 9522416837
Bumblebee
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... IQmsYDCJ8B
All 4 of the deluxes, which consist of Bumblebee, Megatron, Shockwave, and Optimus Prime, are available.
Head on over to the links below, and pick up your Cyberverse deluxes now! And once you have, let us know that you have and then let us know what you think of them once they arrive!
Megatron
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 6631263938
Shockwave
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 171,prmr:3
Optimus
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... 9522416837
Bumblebee
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... IQmsYDCJ8B
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047216)
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 7:37pm CST
Posted by autobot00 on December 17th, 2019 @ 7:37pm CST
Bumble bee is on there too. I didnt order him but I did come across him. If u search transformers cyberverse deluxe it should come up.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047218)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 17th, 2019 @ 7:50pm CST
Really? I looked and could not find him, got a link?
And I just ordered the other 3 too
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 17th, 2019 @ 7:50pm CST
autobot00 wrote:Bumble bee is on there too. I didnt order him but I did come across him. If u search transformers cyberverse deluxe it should come up.
Really? I looked and could not find him, got a link?
And I just ordered the other 3 too
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047222)
Posted by SiegeFan on December 17th, 2019 @ 7:53pm CST
Posted by SiegeFan on December 17th, 2019 @ 7:53pm CST
I'm so confused now when I thought I was certain... Just to check, in the UK at least we have 'ultra class' and these deluxes look to be a very similar size. Is that what these are?
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047224)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 17th, 2019 @ 7:59pm CST
No, these Deluxes are standard Siege-level deluxes.
also found Bumblebee and ordered him
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 17th, 2019 @ 7:59pm CST
SiegeFan wrote:I'm so confused now when I thought I was certain... Just to check, in the UK at least we have 'ultra class' and these deluxes look to be a very similar size. Is that what these are?
No, these Deluxes are standard Siege-level deluxes.
also found Bumblebee and ordered him
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047227)
Posted by SiegeFan on December 17th, 2019 @ 8:40pm CST
Thanks, size comparison is what made me question it. Some folks have been using the wrong terms when talking about them and I got all turned around!
I'll consider them but maybe in a sale. And I'd like my own look at the blast effects to see if I want them for WFC figs.
Posted by SiegeFan on December 17th, 2019 @ 8:40pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:SiegeFan wrote:I'm so confused now when I thought I was certain... Just to check, in the UK at least we have 'ultra class' and these deluxes look to be a very similar size. Is that what these are?
No, these Deluxes are standard Siege-level deluxes.
also found Bumblebee and ordered him
Thanks, size comparison is what made me question it. Some folks have been using the wrong terms when talking about them and I got all turned around!
I'll consider them but maybe in a sale. And I'd like my own look at the blast effects to see if I want them for WFC figs.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047229)
Posted by william-james88 on December 17th, 2019 @ 9:41pm CST
We have reviews with size comparisons that should help
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... rse/44314/
And yes Cary, it was a country thing.
Posted by william-james88 on December 17th, 2019 @ 9:41pm CST
SiegeFan wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:SiegeFan wrote:I'm so confused now when I thought I was certain... Just to check, in the UK at least we have 'ultra class' and these deluxes look to be a very similar size. Is that what these are?
No, these Deluxes are standard Siege-level deluxes.
also found Bumblebee and ordered him
Thanks, size comparison is what made me question it. Some folks have been using the wrong terms when talking about them and I got all turned around!
I'll consider them but maybe in a sale. And I'd like my own look at the blast effects to see if I want them for WFC figs.
We have reviews with size comparisons that should help
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... rse/44314/
And yes Cary, it was a country thing.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047231)
Posted by Samsonator on December 17th, 2019 @ 9:58pm CST
Posted by Samsonator on December 17th, 2019 @ 9:58pm CST
I just picked up Deluxe Class Megs and Shocky at retail. Pretty stoked to see these on shelves
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047238)
Posted by bacem on December 17th, 2019 @ 11:38pm CST
Posted by bacem on December 17th, 2019 @ 11:38pm CST
another thanks on chuck for his review:
https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/chuck-s-reviews-transformers-cyberverse-deluxe-class-bumblebee-p2047207.php#p2047207
this one is interesting as well. albeit a bit less complex than what i expected, this is still an interesting transformation, particularly with how the backpack folded up, it really utilize the hollow parts. from what i see so far, bee and megs seems to be the winner on this line, so those two are the one that i will be picking up.
https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/chuck-s-reviews-transformers-cyberverse-deluxe-class-bumblebee-p2047207.php#p2047207
this one is interesting as well. albeit a bit less complex than what i expected, this is still an interesting transformation, particularly with how the backpack folded up, it really utilize the hollow parts. from what i see so far, bee and megs seems to be the winner on this line, so those two are the one that i will be picking up.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047244)
Posted by Munkky on December 18th, 2019 @ 3:33am CST
Posted by Munkky on December 18th, 2019 @ 3:33am CST
These Deluxes haven't been appearing for pre-order on any UK websites I often use, the only Cyberverse products In Demand Toys stock right now are Spark Armour Cheetor and Warrior Slipstream, and Kapow Toys only have Slipstream (is that figure seriously THAT popular?). Optimus and Megatron are on UK Amazon for £20.99 each, so I may just get them from there.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047246)
Posted by SiegeFan on December 18th, 2019 @ 4:59am CST
Thanks!
Grrr, I dunno, they look great but they're laughably expensive in the UK and a little smaller than ultra class.
Posted by SiegeFan on December 18th, 2019 @ 4:59am CST
william-james88 wrote:SiegeFan wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:SiegeFan wrote:I'm so confused now when I thought I was certain... Just to check, in the UK at least we have 'ultra class' and these deluxes look to be a very similar size. Is that what these are?
No, these Deluxes are standard Siege-level deluxes.
also found Bumblebee and ordered him
Thanks, size comparison is what made me question it. Some folks have been using the wrong terms when talking about them and I got all turned around!
I'll consider them but maybe in a sale. And I'd like my own look at the blast effects to see if I want them for WFC figs.
We have reviews with size comparisons that should help
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... rse/44314/
And yes Cary, it was a country thing.
Thanks!
Grrr, I dunno, they look great but they're laughably expensive in the UK and a little smaller than ultra class.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047255)
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 10:49am CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 10:49am CST
Christmas is a week away!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since I do sell part of my collection on the side, I have been bombarded by people buying from me for last minute Christmas presents, especially since the shelves only have a small subset of all the characters the brand has to offer. However, most requests and questions have been parents and since all I have to sell is more collector oriented pieces, I don't have anything for 4-5 year olds.
Parents seem to ask for the same thing, a big durable toy that can transform, look good and yet not be too difficult and not too expensive. So basically, a toy from the Cybertron era back when there was no divide between collectors and kids, but of course a toy that can still be found on the shelves right now. And I recommend the same toy each time, so much so that I thought of writing this quick editorial to help any parent who is still looking for a nice big Transformer toy for their kids.
My pick is Cyberverse Ultimate Class Grimlock. I have written a whole review about him and how awesome it is for a kid's toy.
No other toy aimed at kids even comes close to being as awesome as him. He is very imposing and really commands the space he takes. While he is light, the plastic feels strong and durable. The transformation is not too difficult but interesting and there are even surprises in it for people who know the typical Grimlock conversion inside and out. He has decent poseability and fine gimmicks that don't get in the way. Plus, he is the size of a leader class toy, almost 9 inches tall and only costs $30 USD ($40 CAD).
And he transforms into a Dinosaur, something still awesome for kids to discover. So, if you are a parent with a kid who loves Dinosaurs and Robots and you want to introduce Transformers to them and also want to wow them with a big toy while not breaking the bank, this is the one for you.
Here are some links, where you can still get him in time for Christmas, followed by more images of the toy.
Amazon US https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-E48 ... 174&sr=8-1?tag=seibertron07-20&
Walmart US https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /996149196?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
Amazon Canada https://www.amazon.ca/Hasbro-Transforme ... 169&sr=1-5?tag=seibertron0b-20&
If you want to see a review, here is one below from Emgo who shares these same thoughts.
Parents seem to ask for the same thing, a big durable toy that can transform, look good and yet not be too difficult and not too expensive. So basically, a toy from the Cybertron era back when there was no divide between collectors and kids, but of course a toy that can still be found on the shelves right now. And I recommend the same toy each time, so much so that I thought of writing this quick editorial to help any parent who is still looking for a nice big Transformer toy for their kids.
My pick is Cyberverse Ultimate Class Grimlock. I have written a whole review about him and how awesome it is for a kid's toy.
No other toy aimed at kids even comes close to being as awesome as him. He is very imposing and really commands the space he takes. While he is light, the plastic feels strong and durable. The transformation is not too difficult but interesting and there are even surprises in it for people who know the typical Grimlock conversion inside and out. He has decent poseability and fine gimmicks that don't get in the way. Plus, he is the size of a leader class toy, almost 9 inches tall and only costs $30 USD ($40 CAD).
And he transforms into a Dinosaur, something still awesome for kids to discover. So, if you are a parent with a kid who loves Dinosaurs and Robots and you want to introduce Transformers to them and also want to wow them with a big toy while not breaking the bank, this is the one for you.
Here are some links, where you can still get him in time for Christmas, followed by more images of the toy.
Amazon US https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-E48 ... 174&sr=8-1?tag=seibertron07-20&
Walmart US https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /996149196?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
Amazon Canada https://www.amazon.ca/Hasbro-Transforme ... 169&sr=1-5?tag=seibertron0b-20&
If you want to see a review, here is one below from Emgo who shares these same thoughts.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047256)
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 10:57am CST
Most online stores for collectors have been ignoring Cyberverse so when these new collector friendly toys came out, it was in their blind spot. Only hasbro (through Google) is offering these toys for order online in the US. So general retail stores, like Amazon UK, will really be your best bet.
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 10:57am CST
Munkky wrote:These Deluxes haven't been appearing for pre-order on any UK websites I often use, the only Cyberverse products In Demand Toys stock right now are Spark Armour Cheetor and Warrior Slipstream, and Kapow Toys only have Slipstream (is that figure seriously THAT popular?). Optimus and Megatron are on UK Amazon for £20.99 each, so I may just get them from there.
Most online stores for collectors have been ignoring Cyberverse so when these new collector friendly toys came out, it was in their blind spot. Only hasbro (through Google) is offering these toys for order online in the US. So general retail stores, like Amazon UK, will really be your best bet.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047257)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:01am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:01am CST
That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.
These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047258)
Posted by no-one on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:07am CST
Anyway, cool concept! I like it
Posted by no-one on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:07am CST
I really like the idea of a holiday buying guide and wouldn't mind seeing it expanded with more recommendations and/or other age groups. That could be a cool article/thread with Seibertron staff recommendations. Maybe pair it with the year in review article?william-james88 wrote:"Holiday buyiers guide"
Anyway, cool concept! I like it
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047260)
Posted by X3ROhour on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:22am CST
Posted by X3ROhour on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:22am CST
Agreed!
I have one
and it is fun, simple and accurate to a very high standard.
I have given 2 already
and have recommended it to several friends and to just ordinary people shopping.
Cool.
I have one
and it is fun, simple and accurate to a very high standard.
I have given 2 already
and have recommended it to several friends and to just ordinary people shopping.
Cool.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047261)
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:24am CST
Ah dammit, sorry siegedude! Well i can still salvage this. Ultra class would be as big as jetfire in the pic above and these new deluxes would be as big as windblade.
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:24am CST
Sabrblade wrote:That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.
These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.
Ah dammit, sorry siegedude! Well i can still salvage this. Ultra class would be as big as jetfire in the pic above and these new deluxes would be as big as windblade.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047262)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:29am CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:29am CST
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047263)
Posted by SGMLordMirage on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:49am CST
Posted by SGMLordMirage on December 18th, 2019 @ 11:49am CST
Definitely concur with this as an idea to give to a young transformer fan or like it was mentioned, if someone likes Dinosaurs.
The minute I saw Grimlock in the store, I was impressed and love him. Unfortunately, while I do not collect this line, this one definitely makes it temping has I continue to see him on the shelves in stores.
The minute I saw Grimlock in the store, I was impressed and love him. Unfortunately, while I do not collect this line, this one definitely makes it temping has I continue to see him on the shelves in stores.
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Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 12:50pm CST
You could do like what I did and just purchase him without needing to purchase others in the line. And he's G1 enough that he can fit in other collections or just look good on a shelf. And since he's plenty enough on the shelves and online, he's easier to get at a sale price (like 20% off at target). That makes it really good value for less than $25. he feels like a kid's toy but a good kid's toy, like the Cybertron toys of yore (I really miss that line).
That's very kind of you Cary, I don't know if parents read this site much but in the off chance they do I wanted to help. I also want them to avoid buying other kid friendly TF toys that I know are not as good as this one. I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).
About your idea of the concept, I could expand on it next year. Like pick for toy of the year from staff for age groups. I hate the alternative you get in the lobbied Toy of the Year lists at toysrus or Walmart where its basically just what is the big toy to spend most of your money on this year.
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 12:50pm CST
SGMLordMirage wrote:Definitely concur with this as an idea to give to a young transformer fan or like it was mentioned, if someone likes Dinosaurs.
The minute I saw Grimlock in the store, I was impressed and love him. Unfortunately, while I do not collect this line, this one definitely makes it temping has I continue to see him on the shelves in stores.
You could do like what I did and just purchase him without needing to purchase others in the line. And he's G1 enough that he can fit in other collections or just look good on a shelf. And since he's plenty enough on the shelves and online, he's easier to get at a sale price (like 20% off at target). That makes it really good value for less than $25. he feels like a kid's toy but a good kid's toy, like the Cybertron toys of yore (I really miss that line).
carytheone wrote:I really like the idea of a holiday buying guide and wouldn't mind seeing it expanded with more recommendations and/or other age groups. That could be a cool article/thread with Seibertron staff recommendations. Maybe pair it with the year in review article?william-james88 wrote:"Holiday buyiers guide"
Anyway, cool concept! I like it
That's very kind of you Cary, I don't know if parents read this site much but in the off chance they do I wanted to help. I also want them to avoid buying other kid friendly TF toys that I know are not as good as this one. I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).
About your idea of the concept, I could expand on it next year. Like pick for toy of the year from staff for age groups. I hate the alternative you get in the lobbied Toy of the Year lists at toysrus or Walmart where its basically just what is the big toy to spend most of your money on this year.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047265)
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 1:00pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 1:00pm CST
Another thanks on chuck for his review of Transformers Cyberverse Deluxe Bumblebee.
These toys have yet to be found at US retail, so if you find them, let us know!
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Following up on Megatron is Bumblebee, while not as good as Megatron, it's probably the best deluxe class Bumblebee I've handled. My one complaint with the figure is that the wings can bump into the shoulder pads and limit arm articulation, small potatoes honestly as you can adjust things to your liking. Overall, this is a very, very solid figure and worth the purchase.
These toys have yet to be found at US retail, so if you find them, let us know!
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047267)
Posted by no-one on December 18th, 2019 @ 1:25pm CST
Realistically I don't know how the site's google analytics work or how effective it is at getting non TF fans to visit. But I will say as a fairly informed TF fan that doesn't have kids (but has a nephew), it is a good source of info to get a quick recommendation for the younger audience. I'd have no idea what to recommend to a parent.
I enjoy reading the holiday buyers guides a lot of the video game sites put out. Sometimes you'll find a hidden gem you didn't even know existed.
Posted by no-one on December 18th, 2019 @ 1:25pm CST
I think a lot of the people here are parentswilliam-james88 wrote:That's very kind of you Cary, I don't know if parents read this site much but in the off chance they do I wanted to help. I also want them to avoid buying other kid friendly TF toys that I know are not as good as this one. I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).carytheone wrote:I really like the idea of a holiday buying guide and wouldn't mind seeing it expanded with more recommendations and/or other age groups. That could be a cool article/thread with Seibertron staff recommendations. Maybe pair it with the year in review article?william-james88 wrote:"Holiday buyiers guide"
Anyway, cool concept! I like it
About your idea of the concept, I could expand on it next year. Like pick for toy of the year from staff for age groups. I hate the alternative you get in the lobbied Toy of the Year lists at toysrus or Walmart where its basically just what is the big toy to spend most of your money on this year.
Realistically I don't know how the site's google analytics work or how effective it is at getting non TF fans to visit. But I will say as a fairly informed TF fan that doesn't have kids (but has a nephew), it is a good source of info to get a quick recommendation for the younger audience. I'd have no idea what to recommend to a parent.I enjoy reading the holiday buyers guides a lot of the video game sites put out. Sometimes you'll find a hidden gem you didn't even know existed.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047269)
Posted by Rysquad on December 18th, 2019 @ 1:32pm CST
Posted by Rysquad on December 18th, 2019 @ 1:32pm CST
I've also found the Cyber Series/Cyber Battalion line (US: Walgreens), great for kids 3 to 5.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047272)
Posted by aronjlove on December 18th, 2019 @ 2:12pm CST
This is why I love Transformers. The toys themselves encourage problem solving. Even if your method of solving the problem is finding a video on Youtube and follow along. As a computer guy, a lot of my job is find stuff on google and repeating lol.
Posted by aronjlove on December 18th, 2019 @ 2:12pm CST
william-james88 wrote:I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).
This is why I love Transformers. The toys themselves encourage problem solving. Even if your method of solving the problem is finding a video on Youtube and follow along. As a computer guy, a lot of my job is find stuff on google and repeating lol.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047296)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 18th, 2019 @ 6:02pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 18th, 2019 @ 6:02pm CST
My deluxes are supposed to arrive tomorrow, I am ready to see them!
I also agree about the Ultimate Grimlock. That toy is fantastic, I love it. It is worth getting as the lone Cyberverse toy you ever get.
I also agree about the Ultimate Grimlock. That toy is fantastic, I love it. It is worth getting as the lone Cyberverse toy you ever get.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047301)
Posted by SiegeFan on December 18th, 2019 @ 6:18pm CST
Absolutely confirms it for me, thank you!
Unfortunately it means they're insanely priced here in the UK at least.
Posted by SiegeFan on December 18th, 2019 @ 6:18pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.
These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.
Ah dammit, sorry siegedude! Well i can still salvage this. Ultra class would be as big as jetfire in the pic above and these new deluxes would be as big as windblade.
Absolutely confirms it for me, thank you!
Unfortunately it means they're insanely priced here in the UK at least.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047303)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 18th, 2019 @ 6:27pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 18th, 2019 @ 6:27pm CST
Aren't they priced the same as Siege Deluxes though? Some of them are being sold in excess of £20 so that price for deluxe Cyberverse is right in line with the other lines. I mean if shops like Symths get them in, they'll likely go on sakeyat some point.
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Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 6:58pm CST
Isnt it the same price as Siege deluxes and studio series deluxes?
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2019 @ 6:58pm CST
SiegeFan wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.
These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.
Ah dammit, sorry siegedude! Well i can still salvage this. Ultra class would be as big as jetfire in the pic above and these new deluxes would be as big as windblade.
Absolutely confirms it for me, thank you!
Unfortunately it means they're insanely priced here in the UK at least.
Isnt it the same price as Siege deluxes and studio series deluxes?
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047309)
Posted by SiegeFan on December 18th, 2019 @ 7:17pm CST
Most of my deluxes have been around £17 online from multiple stores, that's where I've bought almost all my deluxes. Even Smyths sell newer ones like Refraktor and Crosshairs for £17 (if you can find them), with voyagers hitting around £24 or under depending on age and availability.
Posted by SiegeFan on December 18th, 2019 @ 7:17pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Aren't they priced the same as Siege Deluxes though? Some of them are being sold in excess of £20 so that price for deluxe Cyberverse is right in line with the other lines. I mean if shops like Symths get them in, they'll likely go on sakeyat some point.
Most of my deluxes have been around £17 online from multiple stores, that's where I've bought almost all my deluxes. Even Smyths sell newer ones like Refraktor and Crosshairs for £17 (if you can find them), with voyagers hitting around £24 or under depending on age and availability.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047310)
Posted by SiegeFan on December 18th, 2019 @ 7:27pm CST
IME...
Cyberverse Ultra Class = £20 RRP short of a sale
Siege Deluxes = £17 or thereabouts both online and in Smyths and the like
The Amazon £21 price isn't far from £23/24 Siege Voyagers, unfortunately. And that's only with the recent price increases across the whole IP. That's crazy for something that small, IMO.
And even Earthrise Voyagers have stayed around £22-24 pre-orders online and in stores.
Posted by SiegeFan on December 18th, 2019 @ 7:27pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Isnt it the same price as Siege deluxes and studio series deluxes?
IME...
Cyberverse Ultra Class = £20 RRP short of a sale
Siege Deluxes = £17 or thereabouts both online and in Smyths and the like
The Amazon £21 price isn't far from £23/24 Siege Voyagers, unfortunately. And that's only with the recent price increases across the whole IP. That's crazy for something that small, IMO.
And even Earthrise Voyagers have stayed around £22-24 pre-orders online and in stores.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047324)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 19th, 2019 @ 3:59am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 19th, 2019 @ 3:59am CST
I think you need to look at them more then just the size. Remember deluxe has a meaning beyond size. I think they're priced right. In a funny sense this is similar to the argument over Siege Astrotrain being voyager sized but sold at leader Class price point.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047326)
Posted by SiegeFan on December 19th, 2019 @ 6:58am CST
It's the whole shebang in my terms. Size and/or price together I'm not really fussed about, like I'll happily buy ER Cliffy, for instance.
But when I'm buying an entire line in all likelihood at £21 each and they're not as good as a more detailed (in every way) £17 Siege figure... It's incredibly tough to justify.
In this instance it comes down to sheer value and I just don't think these have it. At least the insane £20 for Ultra class figs gave you shelf presence even if construction was dire.
Posted by SiegeFan on December 19th, 2019 @ 6:58am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I think you need to look at them more then just the size. Remember deluxe has a meaning beyond size. I think they're priced right. In a funny sense this is similar to the argument over Siege Astrotrain being voyager sized but sold at leader Class price point.
It's the whole shebang in my terms. Size and/or price together I'm not really fussed about, like I'll happily buy ER Cliffy, for instance.
But when I'm buying an entire line in all likelihood at £21 each and they're not as good as a more detailed (in every way) £17 Siege figure... It's incredibly tough to justify.
In this instance it comes down to sheer value and I just don't think these have it. At least the insane £20 for Ultra class figs gave you shelf presence even if construction was dire.
Re: Pictorial Review for Deluxe Shockwave from Transformers Cyberverse (2047329)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 19th, 2019 @ 7:33am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 19th, 2019 @ 7:33am CST
Don't forget though that some of the plastic in the price goes to the build a figure parts as well, giving us the only figure of Maccadams we're going to get. Of course that's more of feature for fans of Cyberverse who know who macadam is of course 
Another factor is that Siege figures are actually underpriced from what the rrp is. Though I remember the days when we complained when the rrp was just £15. Ah economics you're a harsh mistress.
Another factor is that Siege figures are actually underpriced from what the rrp is. Though I remember the days when we complained when the rrp was just £15. Ah economics you're a harsh mistress.
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Posted by SiegeFan on December 19th, 2019 @ 7:59am CST
I loved the first season of the show, thought S2 was nowhere near as focused (effectively another issue with the toys!), and really couldn't care about the bartender even as a completest lol
The price is whatever people are willing to pay. A Siege Deluxe just doesn't look impressive in a small box in a massive store, and I honestly don't rate the hype about plastic being expensive when they can include chunky painted BAF parts for free and are producing the most obscure characters in Marvel Legends, for instance. Who'll do nothing but warm pegs.
That's the reason the boxes are enormous for this new line relative to the figure. And my local Tesco can't even shift a Prime/Starscream Cyberverse 2 pack at £10 to the likes of an addict like me lol
Posted by SiegeFan on December 19th, 2019 @ 7:59am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Don't forget though that some of the plastic in the price goes to the build a figure parts as well, giving us the only figure of Maccadams we're going to get. Of course that's more of feature for fans of Cyberverse who know who macadam is of course
Another factor is that Siege figures are actually underpriced from what the rrp is. Though I remember the days when we complained when the rrp was just £15. Ah economics you're a harsh mistress.
I loved the first season of the show, thought S2 was nowhere near as focused (effectively another issue with the toys!), and really couldn't care about the bartender even as a completest lol
The price is whatever people are willing to pay. A Siege Deluxe just doesn't look impressive in a small box in a massive store, and I honestly don't rate the hype about plastic being expensive when they can include chunky painted BAF parts for free and are producing the most obscure characters in Marvel Legends, for instance. Who'll do nothing but warm pegs.
That's the reason the boxes are enormous for this new line relative to the figure. And my local Tesco can't even shift a Prime/Starscream Cyberverse 2 pack at £10 to the likes of an addict like me lol
