Robots in Disguise App Updates reveal New Characters and Toys Like Menasor and Galvatronus
Wednesday, February 15th, 2017 9:09AM CST
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Ultra Bee, Menasor and (hold onto your buts) Galvatronus!
There are also new Combiners/Activators: Soundwave & Torpedo Laserbeak (which we have already seen in toy form) and Optimus Prime & High Test.
We also finally see Dragbreak (which looks pretty much as you would expect), as well as Lunar Force Primestrong and Shocknado, which both appear to be redecos.
Let us know what you think of the designs. Remember that the combiners have been found to be at the 30$-35$ price point so that may explain why they look like simplified transforming toys with no individual robot modes, more along the power rangers zord concept.
Hopefulyl we will get a better look at these this coming saturday at the 2017 New York Toy Fair.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:19am CST
Though, look closely at Galvatronus's arms. Don't they look kinda like blue-colored Vehicons?
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:21am CST
Sabrblade wrote:So, Galvatronus could be Cyclonus's endgame, using his mind control powers to not only manipulate the Council, but to also make himself a combiner. My theory, at least.
Though, look closely at Galvatronus's arms. Don't they look kinda like blue-colored Vehicons?
Wouldnt be the first time they reuse that character model in this show.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:22am CST
Sabrblade wrote:So, Galvatronus could be Cyclonus's endgame, using his mind control powers to not only manipulate the Council, but to also make himself a combiner. My theory, at least.
Though, look closely at Galvatronus's arms. Don't they look kinda like blue-colored Vehicons?
They are! jet vehicons tbh
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:28am CST
Maybe mildly disappointed that they are not more in line with Warrior toys, but I was also pleasantly satisfied with Primestrong. The gimmick reminds me of the old days.
Hope they show these this weekend.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:29am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:32am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:35am CST
Cobotron wrote:This news certainly has me wondering how these toys will work. The torsos on the bigger Combiners, and the fact that they have crash in their name, lead me to believe they will be closer to the two bot Combiners we've already seen with a similar gimmick. But I'm wondering how those arms will work. Any speculation?
Plenty. I smell Powr Core Combienrs all over. So it would be a car and when you plug it, it turns into an arm. Or you hae to do a simple transformation into an arm, like power ranger zords.
I am sure kids will love this.
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:41am CST
Posted by RAR on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:43am CST
So it seem the Activator Combiner Optimus is very like the 3-step just like is the case with Bumblebee too where the 3-step and Activator combiner are also very similar.
I'd wish they'd done a few more new moulds before starting on the crash combiner repaints though. I'd not minded a Decepticon repaint at all but just a random colour change - I hope will at least reference something in the story to have an excuse to exist.
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:44am CST
Cobotron wrote:Oh! PCC. I could see that. Maybe that style of combining would offer up a little more articulation.
If there is automorphing, then you usually get less articulation. The PCC toys had no articulation (and neither do Power Ranger zords)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:45am CST
Some zords and megazords of the past have had some kind of articulation.william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Oh! PCC. I could see that. Maybe that style of combining would offer up a little more articulation.
If there is automorphing, then you usually get less articulation. The PCC toys had no articulation (and neither do Power Ranger zords)
Posted by kurthy on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:46am CST
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:47am CST
True, true. I was thinking of shoulder articulation mostly. These could be really good or really not. Only time can tell.william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Oh! PCC. I could see that. Maybe that style of combining would offer up a little more articulation.
If there is automorphing, then you usually get less articulation. The PCC toys had no articulation (and neither do Power Ranger zords)
I agree too though that, "The kids will love'em". Oh the kids.
EDIT:
Ya. Come to think of it, I have a few older ones with elbows.Sabrblade wrote:]Some zords and megazords of the past have had some kind of articulation.
Posted by Kurona on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:53am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:55am CST
Kurona wrote:Galvatronus I can't say I was expecting... peeps are gonna hate me for this, but I'm kind of expecting Victorion now.
Aye but was that not a fan selected or fan created one though
Posted by RAR on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:55am CST
I would be shocked if the $35.00 Combiners are that well jointed. I'm sure they will be an interesting talking point though.
Posted by Kurona on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:57am CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:Kurona wrote:Galvatronus I can't say I was expecting... peeps are gonna hate me for this, but I'm kind of expecting Victorion now.
Aye but was that not a fan selected or fan created one though
I say so because of the fan-created part - of the many things fans chose for Victorion (like her gender, faction, component vehicles etc.) was what her rival should be. And - while this has unfortunately barely shown up in fiction at all yet - the fans chose Galvatronus to be her rival.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:59am CST
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:00am CST
Ya. They did have knees, and the ports as articulation worked pretty well. I know PCC was not well loved, but I think they are pretty neat toys. Toys being the key word.RAR wrote:The mechanims in the PCC drones did inhibit motion and so cause a lack of functional elbows but they had fully mobile shoulders and some had opening hands. you can certainly pose them a lot they have waists, usually pretty mobile heads, knees, decent enough hips and so on.
I would be shocked if the $35.00 Combiners are that well jointed. I'm sure they will be an interesting talking point though.
I'm doubting these RID Combos will have knees.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:04am CST
If it's just the two....then it'll prob be all PCC like
Posted by RAR on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:16am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:18am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:27am CST
I see Grimlock's beast mode head, neck, torso, and arms. Looks like his tail disappears where the combiner feet are.william-james88 wrote:What worries me is how that Grimlock component looks to be just the legs, where's the rest of him?!
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:46am CST
it can't & it won't! but wouldn't it be funny if the legion Cyclonus could form one of the limbs of Galvatronus
Posted by MrBlack on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:49am CST
More importantly, take a look at the highlighted images on the left for Shocknado and Galvatronus. Shocknado looks much more like G1 Galvatron, while Galvatronus looks more like G1 Cyclonus, or at least an amalgam of Cyclonus and Galvatron.
Posted by Kurona on February 15th, 2017 @ 11:02am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 12:11pm CST
Pretty sure the left side ones are from the toys' packaging art.MrBlack wrote:The in-game models don't seem to look much like the images on the left side of each picture (which look more like in-show models). The Soundwave on the left, for instance, has a face much more reminiscent of his G1 look than the more Prime-esque look on the in-game model.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:02pm CST
Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.
Dragbreak... Guess I was wrong, it is a single pack, with Drag Strip/Dragstar and Wildbreak. What are the odds of seeing the other two?
Hi-Test is partnered with Combiner Optimus Prime, guess that comes close to a "Hi-Q" reference.
We already know about Activator Combiner Soundwave, but why is Laserbeak classified as a Torpedo and not as an Activator?
Galvatronus should indeed be Cyclonus... but what intrigues me is that he seems to have 5 members instead of the predicted 4 for the rest. Also, each limb has a different accent color. The arms are indeed Air/Jet Vehicons, so the legs must be another type.
I wonder how the legs work on Menasor. And "Ultrabee"... *groans* Bumblebee's inability to come up with something cool strikes again
Posted by Bronzewolf on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:24pm CST
Sigma Magnus wrote:While this is neat, and I'm excited to see the toys...those character models for the larger combiners look absolutely awful.
Thank you! They do look terrible. Those legs are like toothpicks.
Kurona wrote:Also, how have we not said anything about this yet?
I approve. Shocknado is an awesome name. Be interesting to see who he/she is.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:48pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lunar Force Combiner? Sounds like an exclusive line of redecos. Target maybe? Or perhaps Walmart finally gets a shot
Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.
Dragbreak... Guess I was wrong, it is a single pack, with Drag Strip/Dragstar and Wildbreak. What are the odds of seeing the other two?
Hi-Test is partnered with Combiner Optimus Prime, guess that comes close to a "Hi-Q" reference.
We already know about Activator Combiner Soundwave, but why is Laserbeak classified as a Torpedo and not as an Activator?
Galvatronus should indeed be Cyclonus... but what intrigues me is that he seems to have 5 members instead of the predicted 4 for the rest. Also, each limb has a different accent color. The arms are indeed Air/Jet Vehicons, so the legs must be another type.
I wonder how the legs work on Menasor. And "Ultrabee"... *groans* Bumblebee's inability to come up with something cool strikes again
Eh the legs are vehicons(unless it's two halves of a vehicon) that's why they have wheels
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on February 15th, 2017 @ 6:48pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:52pm CST
RAR wrote:rockman_fan wrote:good lord that sideswipe looks bad. his torso is literally a flat panel screwed onto a frame. and not even screwed on right, his legs are misaligned.
It's nice to see some rotation in a One-step you don't often get that.
It looks like the knees up are on a hinge system so the chest is the nose of the car and I like the elbows he has - it seems he spins at the knees.
But I really would prefer some more Decepticons - heck they could do a much better job with Thunderhoof - or at least repaint him a bit.
They never made a Megatronus One step so that would be worth doing as would Starscream.
I think that Shark one would work really well as a one-step too.
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P.S.
This is now 5 One-step RID Bumblebee (2 Scissor,2 butterfly, and an unfold type).
4 Sideswipe (2 butterfly, one sort of Scissor and a rotate and chest pop type)
3 Optimus Prime (Flipchanger ish one, one which is mainly just moving his hands and standing it up, and an unfold like one) I would have expected one be made in white but they've not done that yet surprisingly.
2 Drift (One scissor and one butterfly)
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So I'll say what I usually do - make more Decepticons and make Jazz.
Also why not make Rescue Bots onesteps in with the RID line ?
Which Sideswipe featured the rotation? Also Blurr and the newer Sideswipe are part of the Combiner Force Wave 2 One-Step Changers. Bee, Drift, and Prime are wave one.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:12pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Which Sideswipe featured the rotation? Also Blurr and the newer Sideswipe are part of the Combiner Force Wave 2 One-Step Changers. Bee, Drift, and Prime are wave one.
The first is the switchblade type, the second is the car jack type, and it's the third that has the rotation. Twist the back spoiler and the whole body from the knees up twists along.
Posted by RAR on February 16th, 2017 @ 2:00am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on February 16th, 2017 @ 9:53am CST
Argh. Being a combiner fan who doesn't like CW sucks. I just want good CHUG scaled combiners, damnit!
Posted by Emerje on February 16th, 2017 @ 4:50pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.
Unlikely that Hasbro would name a new character something as generic and hard to copyright as "tornado". Probably be something else that ends in "-nado" like Terrornado or Speednado.
Emerje
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 16th, 2017 @ 4:57pm CST
Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.
Unlikely that Hasbro would name a new character something as generic and hard to copyright as "tornado". Probably be something else that ends in "-nado" like Terrornado or Speednado.
Emerje
FunPub got away with it in 2014, as "Pirate Tornado":
Posted by RAR on February 16th, 2017 @ 11:38pm CST
http://www.tfu.info/1993/Decepticon/Win ... drazor.htm
He's also a Rival team Decepticon murdered by Impactor.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Tornado
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Windrazor_(G2)
Anyway the reason I mention all this is I thought the "Sky Tornado" Autobot jet version looked kind of like the newest RID "Stormshot" jet to me (a bit).
Posted by Va'al on February 17th, 2017 @ 3:01am CST
Posted by Emerje on February 17th, 2017 @ 3:42am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.
Unlikely that Hasbro would name a new character something as generic and hard to copyright as "tornado". Probably be something else that ends in "-nado" like Terrornado or Speednado.
Emerje
FunPub got away with it in 2014, as "Pirate Tornado":
Sure, but they had to use "pirate" in order to trademark it. Hasbro doesn't like to do that so they'll certainly just make something up that's easy to own.
RAR wrote:Though it doesn't mention it here here guy is called Tornado in Europe :
http://www.tfu.info/1993/Decepticon/Win ... drazor.htm
He's also a Rival team Decepticon murdered by Impactor.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Tornado
Copyright and trademark rules are different in the US, hence them changing his name in the first place and not using it on any other figures. Comic books don't need to copyright the names as long as it isn't being used to sell a product directly which is why the IDW comics don't have to change the names of every character that Hasbro has to rename on the figures.
Emerje
Posted by Kurona on February 17th, 2017 @ 3:44am CST
Posted by RAR on February 17th, 2017 @ 4:44am CST
But then I kinda like characters having multiple names even if it's seen as an error of sorts some time it kind of adds an extra layer to the characters if they sometimes change their names (Like Trailcutter/Trailbreaker, Outback/Fallback or Galvatron/Megatron).
I'm not so keen when names get re-used in the same continuity though such as with Tracer or Sky High.
I don't think Windrazor Tornado works ideally though name wise as a single name Tornado-Razor perhaps ?.
But then the name use issue is also an issue with RID a it does cause some headaches about Grimlock and Sideswipe (for example) in that line.
Posted by Deathsanras on February 17th, 2017 @ 6:31am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 17th, 2017 @ 9:10am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 17th, 2017 @ 9:18am CST
Posted by wolverinetodd on February 17th, 2017 @ 9:22am CST
Deathsanras wrote:Who's the dude? He's hot.
Agreed! Werewolf furry is especially hot!
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 17th, 2017 @ 9:36am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 17th, 2017 @ 12:27pm CST
william-james88 wrote:RID Combiner Force Bruticus revealed, looks like he is made up of 5 bots like his usual self:
Looks like they are gonna be PCC after all....coz the keyword is CORE in there, on the pic
Posted by Va'al on February 17th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:william-james88 wrote:RID Combiner Force Bruticus revealed, looks like he is made up of 5 bots like his usual self:
Looks like they are gonna be PCC after all....coz the keyword is CORE in there, on the pic
Core Kids is the target demographic, one of three.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 17th, 2017 @ 4:07pm CST
william-james88 wrote:And Ultra Bee is revealed! He appears to be a non transforming (especially grimlock) gimmick toy.
Call me whatever you like, but I love Ultrabee. I will own that toy