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Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More

Transformers News: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More

Friday, September 9th, 2016 9:05AM CDT

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We have been getting many rumours lately, like MP Megatron and several toys from Titans Return like Octane, Blitzwing and Seaspray.

Well Autobot N has shown us an image from TMizer's Facebook page which is titled "「Rumor」Official products of transformers. upcoming in 2017" and it repeats a lot of toys that we have already seen rumoured, with some new ones. Here is the image:

Transformers News: Rumours of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque

The top are arranged by classes with Beachcomber under the Legends section. This si the first mention of this toy. Also, you will see how Brawn is absent from this list, along with the redeco of either Leader Ultra Magnus or the Powermaster Prime retool. Seaspray is mentioned but in a section below with a lot of new names of toys that are surely in different classes and include: Deathsaurus, Starscream, Abominus, Dinobot, Huffer, Windcharger, Grotusque, Flywheels, Battletrap, Snapdragon, Godbomber, BLOOD, Darkwing, Dreadwind, Blackzarack, Landross and Carnivac.

The recent rumour of Blackshadow showed that Pretenders were joining the Titans Return line so it makes sense to see Blood and Carnivac here who are dead ringers for redecos/retools of Mindwipe and Wolfwire respectively.

The most intriguing though are the mentiones of Abominus and Predaking, which are on every fan's want list. Hopefully all this pans out but until we see any images, take these new rumours with a grain of salt.
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Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823128)
Posted by william-james88 on September 9th, 2016 @ 9:08am CDT
Autobot N wrote:Also, I found this on TFW2005:
Type-R wrote:The Chinese characters say that the figures in the list from Predaking to Cosmos are "basically confirmed" and the Deszaras to Carnivac are "not confirmed".

Thats interesting since Carnivac sems like a much more feasable toy to imagine. Its just a Wolfwire redeco.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823129)
Posted by Big Grim on September 9th, 2016 @ 9:16am CDT
Darkwing and Dreadwind huh? Interested!
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823130)
Posted by steals_your_goats on September 9th, 2016 @ 9:19am CDT
God damnit now I have to update my list :BOOM:
Very interesting list indeed, lots of unexpected characters and I'm loving it. I wouldn't worry about characters not being listed as there's no mention of Topspin, broadside or any of the legends figures recently leaked.

I really hope Deathsaurus is true because I would love a new, real Deathsaurus.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823132)
Posted by Overcracker on September 9th, 2016 @ 9:24am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
FYI Overlords Power Master gimmick wasn't integral to the transformation. All the Powermasters did was pop out some breast guns


Actually, they did a bit more than that.

His powermasters were somewhat integral to the transformation in that they unlocked the tank section to split into the legs, and unlocked the arms in the jet mode. Granted you could totally press the buttons in the slots yourself without the powermasters, but they did have that function.


Hate to ask, are you sure? The video review I saw led me to believe that the bits just came apart


I'm sure. The slots have release mechanisms for both legs and arms. Unless the latches are broken, you need to press the release buttons to have them pop apart.

It was part of the Powermaster gimmick generally. Unlocking the transformation is some way.

Ginrai unlocked Super Ginrai's / Prime's legs for transformation for example.

This review shows the unlocking:

Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823133)
Posted by Autobot N on September 9th, 2016 @ 9:27am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Autobot N wrote:Also, I found this on TFW2005:
Type-R wrote:The Chinese characters say that the figures in the list from Predaking to Cosmos are "basically confirmed" and the Deszaras to Carnivac are "not confirmed".

Thats interesting since Carnivac sems like a much more feasable toy to imagine. Its just a Wolfwire redeco.
I think that it's more meant as a "we aren't completely sure of this toy's existence".


As for my thoughts on the rumors, out of the stuff we haven't heard of before, I'm most excited for Predaking, Battletrap, and Starscream.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823136)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on September 9th, 2016 @ 9:42am CDT
If I have had to wait almost three decades for a proper new Carnivac and it's forced to use that Wolfwire mold pleeeeease can it be retooled? Can we at least have the shoulder spikes? Maybe retool the chest so that it still looks somewhat similar to the chest that's formed by the wolf head lower jaw on the original? Decent claws would be nice too.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823138)
Posted by Kurona on September 9th, 2016 @ 9:43am CDT
With these two pretenders rumoured does anyone else think it'd be cool if they reissued ROTF Bludgeon and put him in a Platinum set with Thunderwing and Carnivac?

I mean sure expensive and I wouldn't get it but it still sounds cool
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823142)
Posted by Bradimus on September 9th, 2016 @ 9:59am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
TK415 wrote:This could happen. It is the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars.
Tell that to Hasbro (again), since the current team doesn't seem to care about that anniversary (only TFTM's 30th anniversary is getting any attention from them, leaving it to only Takara and Fun Pub to care about Beast Wars this year).

To be fair though, their homage to the 30th anniversary of the film is not all that great.


I think there is too much going on to also release new figures for Beast Wars right now. Hopefully that's something in the planning stages for the 25th anniversary.

As for the 30th anniversary of the film, I am also a bit disappointed. I'm happy we're getting amazing representations of the characters, but I'm not happy Hasbro forced all of them into the Titans Return gimmick of the line. As much as I like my TR Galvatron, I really wish he'd just be 30th Anniversary Galvatron. Same with Scourge and Hot Rod and Blurr. I think it would have been neat if they could have found a way to keep the cockpits in the deluxe class figures to interact with the Titan Masters but not actually made them Titan Masters themselves. However, as the figures were adapted to be Target Masters back in the day I don't find myself too annoyed at the change to headmasters.

Thing is, I've only gotten Galvatron so far from the TR line, and that might be my only purchase this year. I'm quite happy with Generations Blurr, though maybe if Hasbro had colored TR Blurr like Takara I would have picked that up. I don't have a Scourge but I don't pick up figures I have to fix. Though I may get Scourge at a later date on a sale of some sort, possibly a clearance, I'm not ruling that out. I'm also happy with Generations Kup so I don't see myself getting TR Kup either. I am very excited about TR Hot Rod as I was never happy with Classics Rodimus' arms (though I love his jet pack).

I thought about getting Astrotrain but I'm leaning against it. I think that's a decision I'll make in person in the store if I ever see one in a store. I have no plans to order one online. If Hardhead came with the Takara head I would get him, and if Highbrow's propellers locked in robot mode I would get him. These are things I can't overlook.

I'm thinking about getting Chromedome, but I want to see good pictures of Getaway first, though if I see Chromedome in a store I may give in. I'm not happy there is no paint on the Titan Master's head, but I do like the Chromedome face. That combined with how well the figure works and that Chromedome is Arcee's 3rd boyfriend may seal it for me.

So this year I may only get two TR figures. I'll see what my total TR count will be, but it won't be high. My CW count is seven (all 6 Aerialbots and Blades). I don't think my TR count will surpass that.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823143)
Posted by Kurona on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:04am CDT
Bradimus wrote:and that Chromedome is Arcee's 3rd boyfriend

Wait, what? 0_o since when?


Also, just figured out a couple of redeco reasons why Windcharger may be getting a new toy despite not being a prominent character in... well, anything.

1. Tailgate. Tailgate's obviously a really big character in MTMTE, and unlike a lot of Thrilling 30 toys meant to represent characters from that series, I recall a lot of people not liking the Tailgate toy.

2. Trypticon's coming, and he needs his entourage.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823144)
Posted by o.supreme on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:06am CDT
Predaking...Abominus... :APPLAUSE: ...hoping as many have speculated...they still use the CW/UW design system...if they do...does anyone think these will continue in Japan as part of the UW line...or will they be part of the Legends line?
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823146)
Posted by Kurona on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:16am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Predaking...Abominus... :APPLAUSE: ...hoping as many have speculated...they still use the CW/UW design system...if they do...does anyone think these will continue in Japan as part of the UW line...or will they be part of the Legends line?

Don't see any reason for them to not use the CW system; it's a solid system that's proved to be extremely effective, designing an entirely new system would take up time and money for what at the end of the day would be really pointless, and Abominus was Scramble City in 1987 and hence it'd make sense for him to use the same system.

I can easily see Takara continuing UW with these guys, yeah.

Still, it's weird to me that they'd be in Titans Return at all; especially with all the other confirmed rumours for the later waves leaving no space for them... maybe these rumours partly leak into the next line which'd be beast combiner based? :-?
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823147)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:20am CDT
If this is true, Titans Return is gonna be a very long line...and I'm very okay with that. GIVE ME MORE! :michaelbay:
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823149)
Posted by steals_your_goats on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:25am CDT
The fact that Predaking and Abominus are listed as such instead of their individual members could mean they're going to be released in box sets as opposed to individual. Or it could mean nothing.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823150)
Posted by RAR on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:29am CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:If this is true, Titans Return is gonna be a very long line...and I'm very okay with that.


Perhaps we need to start calling it "Prime Wars Trilogy" before the 3rd line actually comes out since there is already significant bleed over between CW & Titans Return - especially as they are all essentially just part of the same sub-theme under the generations Banner anyway - which is why they can get away with continuing to shoehorn Wingblade into every available nook & cranny.

Or why having a Combiner Wars "Cartoon" is only slightly bizarre to have as a current marketing tool... that bleed over means there is still likely to be a fair few Rugrats who get CW toys for Crimbo 2016. so Advertising them still isn't completely bizarre, a little Bizarre but not completely so.

King Kuuga wrote: [clip]
And to segue this back into Titans Return while still talking about RID Decepticons, who do we think is going to redeco TR Voyager Prime as RID Scourge first? Whatever replaces the Club or Takara?


It looks suitable for a Tokyo Toyshow exclusive to me, with e-Hobby being a possibility. There is all those other obscure ways Takara gets things out thought too - like Millionaire Publishing Exclusives or the odd outlet exclusive - though they don't seem to do that as much as they did in the previous decade.

Sabrblade wrote:What?

Japan didn't get Beast Machines until 2004, years after they had made Car Robots.


Perhaps a Japanese viewer or an early sub can confirm - but the info may be "Behind the scenes" info from somewhere like Telemanga or similar.

Basically the idea is that Some Time travel event altered the past so when the "Autobots" /Cybertrons (new ones not G1 characters) return to Cybertron from some mission of colony recall they are traditional Transformers greeted with a techno-organic world someone takes a dislike to this (Megatron/Gigatron possibly) and travels to the past to try to undo it some how or other. in the process changing the past.

So they left from the same universe as G1/Beast Wars and Beast Machines (yes even before Beast Wars Returns was made) but in the process of time travelling cemented their status as a "Alternative Universe".. but a daughter Universe not some random parallel dimension like IDW or Armada but an actual off-shoot terminator style.

I hope someone else remembers this so I don't seem quite so loopy as this sounds in retrospect. making a show a sequel to another show that they'd not even had at the time does sound a bit potty.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823154)
Posted by bluecatcinema on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:41am CDT
Aw, yeah. This is gonna be good. Though I have a sneaking suspicion that some of the Predacons and Terrorcons will share moulds...
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823157)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:48am CDT
That... is a lot to take in. I'm really not sure how I feel about that list and how big it is and what characters are on it
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823158)
Posted by o.supreme on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:49am CDT
There really isn't any consistency when it comes to TF toy brand in terms of length. Most of the movie-based ones last only a year. Ones based on a current animated series will go 2-3 years, and the Generations line...while in the beginning each iteration seemed to last about one year, obviously CW & TR seem to be more popular, CW is more of an 18 month line, and I can see TR doing the same, going all the way to end of 2017, though no doubt in mid 2017 we will start to see promotion for what the next "generations" line will offer. The fact that Trypticon (presumably summer 2017) is supposed to also be part of TR and not...the next line is already evidence of this (unless that changes)...the idea of one Titan toy per line kind of goes out the window...
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823160)
Posted by Kurona on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:52am CDT
Bit off-news-topic since this doesn't concern it at all, but I've been thinking for ages that Misfire's gonna be a Triggerhappy retool... so I randomly decided to do a comparison right now, and it's pretty much solidified it as fact for me.

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-TR Triggerhappy (TRiggerhappy?) now has fins on the back of his jet mode. Said back of jet mode with the fins now transforms into his legs. Both of these characteristics were not on his G1 toy, but were very prominent on G1 Misfire's toy.

-The sides of the jet turn into his arms, with the wings folded back. From what I can tell this is the same on G1 Misfire, plus it would allow you to fold the wings forward for an appearance more reminiscent of MTMTE Misfire.

-The cockpit of Triggerhappy's alt mode has now been moved back to a similar location to G1 Misfire's, as opposed to G1 Triggerhappy's cockpit being right at the front of the alt mode.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823163)
Posted by RAR on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:54am CDT
I wasn't expecting Pretenders until Prime Wars part III
Just as I was thinking once RID is executed in 2017 they might shift over from (whatever small transformers are called this week) to making some more Micromasters too.

I was thinking that Replacement for Titan Master 2 pack might be Micromasters (in late 2017 or 2018) - thought 2017 etc.. being multiple movie years is likely going to throw a spanner in the works a bit there.

Perhaps the Pretender characters are not pretenders at all just more Titan Masters - not unlike what they did with Skullgrin already.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823165)
Posted by Bradimus on September 9th, 2016 @ 10:59am CDT
Kurona wrote:
Bradimus wrote:and that Chromedome is Arcee's 3rd boyfriend

Wait, what? 0_o since when?


Transformers: The Headmasters (Japanese G1 cartoon)

G1 Arcee gets around, from Hot Rod to Springer to Chromedome. We had this discussion a while back in another thread. :saint:

But if you stick with Hasbro's The Rebirth instead of ignoring it and moving on to Japan's superior (IMHO, chill people who prefer American continuity) The Headmasters you get Daniel Witwicky instead, and that's... problematic (among other things).
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823166)
Posted by RAR on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:04am CDT
Kurona wrote:Bit off-news-topic since this doesn't concern it at all, but I've been thinking for ages that Misfire's gonna be a Triggerhappy retool... so I randomly decided to do a comparison right now, and it's pretty much solidified it as fact for me.

-TR Triggerhappy (TRiggerhappy?) now has fins on the back of his jet mode. Said back of jet mode with the fins now transforms into his legs. Both of these characteristics were not on his G1 toy, but were very prominent on G1 Misfire's toy.[clip]

-The sides of the jet turn into his arms, with the wings folded back. From what I can tell this is the same on G1 Misfire, plus it would allow you to fold the wings forward for an appearance more reminiscent of [clip]

-The cockpit of Triggerhappy's alt mode has now been moved back to a similar location to G1 Misfire's, as opposed to G1 Triggerhappy's cockpit being right at the front of the alt mode.


Yes I can see what you mean - looking at the robot mode the front end is actually a Blurr style removable piece perhaps ?

So they can tweak the Transformation (or reverse it) to get Missfire.

[side note : ideal fodder some of these are - for Takara Campaign Targetmasters]

The fins do look like Missfires. I hope if they do remould they do a few new pieces and don't just slap a new nose and head on it and say "That will do".

So the next question is - can we see any Slugslinger parts in there too ? and what about Cyclonus ?
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823169)
Posted by Kurona on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:09am CDT
RAR wrote:
Kurona wrote:Bit off-news-topic since this doesn't concern it at all, but I've been thinking for ages that Misfire's gonna be a Triggerhappy retool... so I randomly decided to do a comparison right now, and it's pretty much solidified it as fact for me.

-TR Triggerhappy (TRiggerhappy?) now has fins on the back of his jet mode. Said back of jet mode with the fins now transforms into his legs. Both of these characteristics were not on his G1 toy, but were very prominent on G1 Misfire's toy.[clip]

-The sides of the jet turn into his arms, with the wings folded back. From what I can tell this is the same on G1 Misfire, plus it would allow you to fold the wings forward for an appearance more reminiscent of [clip]

-The cockpit of Triggerhappy's alt mode has now been moved back to a similar location to G1 Misfire's, as opposed to G1 Triggerhappy's cockpit being right at the front of the alt mode.


Yes I can see what you mean - looking at the robot mode the front end is actually a Blurr style removable piece perhaps ?

So they can tweak the Transformation (or reverse it) to get Missfire.

[side note : ideal fodder some of these are - for Takara Campaign Targetmasters]

The fins do look like Missfires. I hope if they do remould they do a few new pieces and don't just slap a new nose and head on it and say "That will do".

So the next question is - can we see any Slugslinger parts in there too ? and what about Cyclonus ?

Only similarity I could possibly draw with Slugslinger is that his legs also form the back of the jet and have fins on them.

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Otherwise there's no real similarities, unless someone with the original toys could point them out to me. I think if we want a Slugslinger it'd either have to be a new mold or highbrow-scourge level retooling/parts-sharing.

Doesn't really look anything like Cyclonus to me (and I really hope they don't make another one unless it's MTMTE-styled)
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823170)
Posted by Bradimus on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:09am CDT
Slugslinger has the same leg transformation and style as Misfire, which TRiggerhappy now has.

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Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823171)
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:10am CDT
I definitely wouldn't mind an updated G1 Predaking toy design myself.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823172)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:11am CDT
If Predaking is true, I surprisingly hope that he is a normal sized CW gestalt that use the hand/foot/gun pieces, since those pieces were originally modeled after G1 Predaking's. Also as you can see from this image, if he was the size of CW Defensor, he would be about the height of G1 Preds as well.

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I can also imagine Razorclaw (torso) being a heavy retool of voyager TR Alpha Trion, Rampage from Wolfwire, and the others probably being either new or other complete retools. Also this would most likely be a box set, so I really hope Divebomb's wings come off and become wings for combined mode like in the G1 toy. ;)^
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823173)
Posted by Bradimus on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:12am CDT
Kurona wrote:Otherwise there's no real similarities, unless someone with the original toys could point them out to me. I think if we want a Slugslinger it'd either have to be a new mold or highbrow-scourge level retooling/parts-sharing.

Doesn't really look anything like Cyclonus to me (and I really hope they don't make another one unless it's MTMTE-styled)


I think they can do all three targetmaster jets with shared engineering. Seems that's what they'll do if they do them. The new seekers of Titans Return?
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823174)
Posted by RodimusRex on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:12am CDT
How do you get Daniel as Arcee's boyfriend?

Heck, even Springer is debatable as I don't remember them dating or flirting. They just spent time together a lot. Kup might as well be her boyfriend by that standard.

By my recall: she was more or less Daniel's babysitter/headmaster partner. Springer spent time with her but just as easily could have been her gay best friend.

There was some tension with Hot Rod but he went straight from being too immature to too busy. Hence, spending time with Springer.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823175)
Posted by leokearon on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:13am CDT
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My Digibash of Carnivac, to wer our appetities. If they are going Pince and Wingspan maybe the could then to Catilla
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823177)
Posted by Kurona on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:21am CDT
I'd hope Predaking would be a normal CW gestalt myself - the more compatibility the better. I'd love to replace Vortex with Divebomb to give Bruticus a sweet set of wings =P~

Only problem is that unlike the scramble city guys and like Monstructor and Devastator... both in toys and in-fiction, the Predacons are consistently depicted as the same size rather than Razorclaw being a bit bigger than the others.

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In addition, unlike Abominus they were never scramble city and used a different system which iirc had some free-forming with which component was which limb (rampage could be the left leg or right arm or whatever), but Divebomb was I think specifically required to be one of the arms.
I'd welcome them being Scramble Citied - again, BRUTICUS WITH WINGS - but it certainly would feel more odd than the other Combiner updates and at least some people would be a bit disappointed by the update and conformity.


Bradimus wrote:
Kurona wrote:Otherwise there's no real similarities, unless someone with the original toys could point them out to me. I think if we want a Slugslinger it'd either have to be a new mold or highbrow-scourge level retooling/parts-sharing.

Doesn't really look anything like Cyclonus to me (and I really hope they don't make another one unless it's MTMTE-styled)


I think they can do all three targetmaster jets with shared engineering. Seems that's what they'll do if they do them. The new seekers of Titans Return?

Honestly, I actually think it'd be pretty cool if they done them all out of the same mold but had major changes. Would feel kinda nice somehow... in any case though, seems like Slugslinger would have to have some very major changes done if he wants to share the mold while still looking like his G1 self in both modes. It's certainly possible though, I think - just not as easy and visible as Triggerhappy > Misfire.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823179)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:22am CDT
RodimusRex wrote:How do you get Daniel as Arcee's boyfriend?

Heck, even Springer is debatable as I don't remember them dating or flirting. They just spent time together a lot. Kup might as well be her boyfriend by that standard.

By my recall: she was more or less Daniel's babysitter/headmaster partner. Springer spent time with her but just as easily could have been her gay best friend.

There was some tension with Hot Rod but he went straight from being too immature to too busy. Hence, spending time with Springer.


Yeah she was more like Daniel's second mother. I dunno where the relationship thing came from.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823181)
Posted by Bradimus on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:23am CDT
RodimusRex wrote:How do you get Daniel as Arcee's boyfriend?


Have you seen The Rebirth?

RodimusRex wrote:Heck, even Springer is debatable as I don't remember them dating or flirting. They just spent time together a lot. Kup might as well be her boyfriend by that standard.

By my recall: she was more or less Daniel's babysitter/headmaster partner. Springer spent time with her but just as easily could have been her gay best friend.

There was some tension with Hot Rod but he went straight from being too immature to too busy. Hence, spending time with Springer.


Arcee was very, very excited about Springer in the movie. She cleary could not make up her mind between the two boys at that time.

Kup is the father figure everybody looks up to. Grimlock loves his stories. And I don't recall Arcee ever getting emotional about Kup, whereas with Springer and Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime there is recorded footage. And Chromedome. And Daniel.

As I have Thrilling 30 Arcee and Springer and Classics Hot Rod, TR Chromedome would complete that quartet.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823182)
Posted by Genericon #378 on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:24am CDT
I need Triggerhappy and Slugslinger in my life.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823183)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:25am CDT
Even though I think it would make more sense for Preds to be a Titan, I much more easily see him being a normal sized gestalt just for scheduling. And plus, it would be great for him to be the same size as the G1 Preds himself. He also would go well with CW Sky Lynx in that scale. =P~
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823184)
Posted by Bradimus on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:33am CDT
SillySpringer wrote:
RodimusRex wrote:How do you get Daniel as Arcee's boyfriend?

Heck, even Springer is debatable as I don't remember them dating or flirting. They just spent time together a lot. Kup might as well be her boyfriend by that standard.

By my recall: she was more or less Daniel's babysitter/headmaster partner. Springer spent time with her but just as easily could have been her gay best friend.

There was some tension with Hot Rod but he went straight from being too immature to too busy. Hence, spending time with Springer.


Yeah she was more like Daniel's second mother. I dunno where the relationship thing came from.


You have to see it in cotext, but here is the quote from TFwiki:

"It's good to be together again. Arcee, I just wanna say...Arcee...I...I..."
"You don't have to, Daniel. I feel the same way, too."
—Daniel and Arcee set some...concepts in motion. Oh god...


And the scene:



But that's all out of context. In the context of the entire story...
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823186)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:34am CDT
Fastlane & Cloudraker = Blur & Brainstorm molds in matching colors?
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823187)
Posted by Munkky on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:36am CDT
A lot of interesting stuff in that leak, though it's a shame there's no mention of a Legends Frenzy, which I hope happens sooner rather than later. I'm guessing Carnivac will probably be a retool of Weirdwolf, which I don't mind too much, but I hope it's retooled to look at least a little bit like Carnivac's awesome Sins of the Wreckers design:
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Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823188)
Posted by Kurona on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:40am CDT
Caelus wrote:Fastlane & Cloudraker = Blur & Brainstorm molds in matching colors?

I see a lot of popularity for this idea, but isn't the whole point of the Autobot Clones that you're not supposed to be able to tell them apart from the front which the Brainstorm wing kibble and different shields would immediately give away?

Not that the originals were that good at hiding it either, but I'd hope for an update they'd make more of an effort.

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Gee I wonder which one is the one that can fly
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823189)
Posted by leokearon on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:41am CDT
Caelus wrote:Fastlane & Cloudraker = Blur & Brainstorm molds in matching colors?


Probably that's the common idea with Digibashers

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Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823190)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:42am CDT
Bradimus wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
RodimusRex wrote:How do you get Daniel as Arcee's boyfriend?

Heck, even Springer is debatable as I don't remember them dating or flirting. They just spent time together a lot. Kup might as well be her boyfriend by that standard.

By my recall: she was more or less Daniel's babysitter/headmaster partner. Springer spent time with her but just as easily could have been her gay best friend.

There was some tension with Hot Rod but he went straight from being too immature to too busy. Hence, spending time with Springer.


Yeah she was more like Daniel's second mother. I dunno where the relationship thing came from.


You have to see it in cotext, but here is the quote from TFwiki:

"It's good to be together again. Arcee, I just wanna say...Arcee...I...I..."
"You don't have to, Daniel. I feel the same way, too."
—Daniel and Arcee set some...concepts in motion. Oh god...


And the scene:



But that's all out of context. In the context of the entire story...


That has not a lick of romance in it. Looks more like Daniel is having bad consequences from the Mexican dinner he had the previous night and Arcee is just agreeing with him.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823191)
Posted by Giant Purple Griffin on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:44am CDT
I hope these rumors are true, especially with regard to Abominus and Predaking. I also hope they get legends class sixth members like the other teams have. One of the Firecons would make a good sixth member/flamethrower weapon for Abominus, and they could maybe do a new character for Predaking.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823192)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:46am CDT
Munkky wrote:A lot of interesting stuff in that leak, though it's a shame there's no mention of a Legends Frenzy, which I hope happens sooner rather than later. I'm guessing Carnivac will probably be a retool of Weirdwolf, which I don't mind too much, but I hope it's retooled to look at least a little bit like Carnivac's awesome Sins of the Wreckers design:
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YESSSSSS.

Oh yeah, and what the heck happened to Stakeout? It's weird that he just kinda said "I ain't lasting longer" and then the rest of the comic ignored him. I hope that means he'll show up in the next Wreckers comic.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823193)
Posted by kirbenvost on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:46am CDT
2016-2017: The years my wallet died.

Confirmed or not, these rumours just add to the fact that Titans Return is one of the best TF lines since... Well, ever. It's the true G1 reboot many of us have been waiting for.

I'm personally glad they got the boring same old characters out of the way in Combiner Wars. It was a good line with a lot of great figures, a return to form for combiners, but I'm really glad it created the possibility for all these amazing other characters we're getting now.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823194)
Posted by Kurona on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:48am CDT
SillySpringer wrote:
Munkky wrote:A lot of interesting stuff in that leak, though it's a shame there's no mention of a Legends Frenzy, which I hope happens sooner rather than later. I'm guessing Carnivac will probably be a retool of Weirdwolf, which I don't mind too much, but I hope it's retooled to look at least a little bit like Carnivac's awesome Sins of the Wreckers design:
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YESSSSSS.

Oh yeah, and what the heck happened to Stakeout? It's weird that he just kinda said "I ain't lasting longer" and then the rest of the comic ignored him. I hope that means he'll show up in the next Wreckers comic.

Tidal Wave chewed him up and he died after talking to Carnivac.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823195)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:48am CDT
Giant Purple Griffin wrote:I hope these rumors are true, especially with regard to Abominus and Predaking. I also hope they get legends class sixth members like the other teams have. One of the Firecons would make a good sixth member/flamethrower weapon for Abominus, and they could maybe do a new character for Predaking.


Repungus could make a good extra character.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823196)
Posted by william-james88 on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:49am CDT
RAR wrote:Perhaps the Pretender characters are not pretenders at all just more Titan Masters - not unlike what they did with Skullgrin already.

I am sure that is what they are. They are under the titans return umbrella so they interact with smaller titan masters. And its no coincidence that the pretenders rumoured like Blood and Carnivac match the alt modes of TR toys we already have. I am 100% certain that if we get those, they wont be pretenders at all.

Autobot N wrote:As for my thoughts on the rumors, out of the stuff we haven't heard of before, I'm most excited for Predaking, Battletrap, and Starscream.

Why Starscream, you dont have enough yet? :lol: Hoping for that voyager finally?

Bradimus wrote:As for the 30th anniversary of the film, I am also a bit disappointed. I'm happy we're getting amazing representations of the characters, but I'm not happy Hasbro forced all of them into the Titans Return gimmick of the line.

I wasn't referring to those, they arent part of the anniversary line. The 30th anniversary of the movie is just the platinum sets like Cyconus' Armada and the Rodimus/Galvatron set.

I am quite pleased with the headmasters and I think you should give them a shot. On an individual basis, I find them to be better toys than the Combiner Wars figures. They can do more on their own and each has a little playability ecosystem.

I don't have a Scourge but I don't pick up figures I have to fix.


Your not obliged to fix him, I havent fixed him and I dont feel the need to. He's a good toy and a really cool homage to the G1 toy. I love the tampographs imitating the stickers and there is some really nice painted detail on the alt mode.

Though I may get Scourge at a later date on a sale of some sort, possibly a clearance, I'm not ruling that out.


Have wave 1 toys ever gone on clearance? I cant remember.

If Hardhead came with the Takara head I would get him


Its a pretty amazing homage to the toy though. And the detailing on the body works better as an homage to the toy than the character model, as do the colours. Do you have a special attachment to that character in Rebirth?
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823197)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on September 9th, 2016 @ 11:51am CDT
Kurona wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Munkky wrote:A lot of interesting stuff in that leak, though it's a shame there's no mention of a Legends Frenzy, which I hope happens sooner rather than later. I'm guessing Carnivac will probably be a retool of Weirdwolf, which I don't mind too much, but I hope it's retooled to look at least a little bit like Carnivac's awesome Sins of the Wreckers design:
Image


YESSSSSS.

Oh yeah, and what the heck happened to Stakeout? It's weird that he just kinda said "I ain't lasting longer" and then the rest of the comic ignored him. I hope that means he'll show up in the next Wreckers comic.

Tidal Wave chewed him up and he died after talking to Carnivac.


I read the thing. Thing is though, nothing afterwards acknowledged his "death". You would think Verity would at least say something about him.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823198)
Posted by Kurona on September 9th, 2016 @ 12:01pm CDT
I'm on a roll here so can anyone see similarities in the G1 Autobot Targetmasters?

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Personally I can kinda see Sureshot and Crosshairs with some extensive reshelling, the reverse-vehicle thing like Hot Spot/Onslaught; and some redesigning like what's been done to Triggerhappy between 1987 and 2016.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823199)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on September 9th, 2016 @ 12:03pm CDT
If Hasbro ends up shotgunning repaints late in the TR line, some of the more exciting names could be quite disappointing. TR Doublecross could be repainted into G1 "Snapdragon", Beast Hunters "Predaking", "Deathsaurus", or Hun-Grr ("Abominus"). TR Alpha Trion could be repainted as G1 Razorclaw ("Predaking").


Also, how many of these are likely to actually just be Titan Masters? Bumblebee's going to be Legends class, and apparently Beachcomber as well, but Brawn was done as a Titanmaster, so for Huffer, Cosmos, Seaspray, and Windcharger I could see it going either way. Grotusque could be a remold of Fangry, and Dinobot a repaint of Clobber.

Edit: I can completely see, however, "Starscream" and "Dinobot" being toys that homage the Pretender Starscream and Pretender Grimlock from back in the day. Either having Titan Masters that look like the old Pretender shells, or having Titan Masters that look like their G1 selves, with bodies stylized to look like transforming versions of their Pretender shells.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823200)
Posted by ScottyP on September 9th, 2016 @ 12:03pm CDT
Munkky wrote: I'm guessing Carnivac will probably be a retool of Weirdwolf, which I don't mind too much, but I hope it's retooled to look at least a little bit like Carnivac's awesome Sins of the Wreckers design:
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I'm using Telemocha Wolfang for this until a better option is out there. I think it works surprisingly well!

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SillySpringer wrote:I read the thing. Thing is though, nothing afterwards acknowledged his "death". You would think Verity would at least say something about him.
Addressed on the last page of the series. Trade's extras note that a good chunk of Verity/Stakeout backstory was cut, so (speculating now) probably why it wasn't dwelled on much at later stages.
Re: Rumour of Upcoming Transformers Titans Return Toys: Predaking, Abominus, Blood, Carnivac, Grotusque and More (1823207)
Posted by o.supreme on September 9th, 2016 @ 12:27pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'd hope Predaking would be a normal CW gestalt myself - the more compatibility the better. I'd love to replace Vortex with Divebomb to give Bruticus a sweet set of wings =P~

Only problem is that unlike the scramble city guys and like Monstructor and Devastator... both in toys and in-fiction, the Predacons are consistently depicted as the same size rather than Razorclaw being a bit bigger than the others.


I hope Predaking is standard as well. But as for the original toy... Divebomb & Rampage could only be arms...Headstrong & Tantrum could only be legs. In the animated series however...All the combiner team members.... no matter who they were...were all about the same size

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