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Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

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Takara is going all out with their Transformers Masterpiece MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki. They have a whole section on their site for him with lots of new pics and even a video on youtube showing the different features. Those include opening up the front of the train mode to have a minifugure drive. We also see a shot of Shouki with other MP figures and he is indeed MP scaled, which should make for a giant combiner. Speaking of which, we have a silouette of Raiden as well.

Also, there is some misinformation of the price online so please read this carefully. The MSRP of this toy is 18000 yen. Any price mentioned that is higher adds Japanese tax which only concerns Japanese citizens. Also, there will be an inevitable discount on Amazon that is routine with non exclusive figures since the prices sold at retail in Japan are always lower than MSRP. So, the price on Amazon Japan could go down to about $120 USD for Shouki in a week or two. Of course, you will have to add shipping and customs fees if that is applicable to your country (USA is not charged customs fees, lucky).

Here is the place to preorder this toy and be eligible for any price drop which is routine on such listings: https://www.amazon.co.jp/o/ASIN/B09HQPF ... rtron00-22
It will also tell you the time limit you have to cancel your toy if the price drop is not significant enough for you or if you change your mind.



Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

Transformers News: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara

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Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117833)
Posted by TulioDude on October 6th, 2021 @ 10:20pm CDT
Looks pretty nice,even with no attachment to the character,he seens a very solid toy.
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Is this scale accurate to the show?

Day 646 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117841)
Posted by o.supreme on October 6th, 2021 @ 11:57pm CDT
Man this is going to be tough. Still, I prefer to wait and see if Pulse offers this as opposed to gambling with fluctuating exchange rates and possible Amazon price changes. I'll still keep my eyes open and all options including Amazon if it does work out for the best.

Raiden will look really nice next to PotP Predaking though, although he will likely be 3 times as heavy and 4-5 times as expensive (:| (:|.

These will be my first MP's since I bought MP1 when it first came out, and then sold it in 2007
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117845)
Posted by frogbat on October 7th, 2021 @ 1:33am CDT
The trainbots form part of that category of Japanese exclusive toys that I wish I had as a kid.. my only connection was the Japanese headmasters cartoon… not enough to make me interested in an map figure.

If it were a generations titan figure, I’d be all over this. It’s final price as an mp will rival unicron’s.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117859)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 7th, 2021 @ 7:24am CDT
frogbat wrote:The trainbots form part of that category of Japanese exclusive toys that I wish I had as a kid.. my only connection was the Japanese headmasters cartoon… not enough to make me interested in an map figure.

If it were a generations titan figure, I’d be all over this. It’s final price as an mp will rival unicron’s.


true, but it is a price that is broken up into smaller installments as opposed to Unicron's full upfront price, which is how a lot of people (not me) justify the third party combiner purchases. Some of which are more pricey then this guy.

that being said, I have no connection to this combiner team, so I was initially like "yay, an mp toy I don't need, finally don't have to keep shelling out me cashola" :DANCE:


but then these pics happened :-(
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117865)
Posted by frogbat on October 7th, 2021 @ 7:42am CDT
You're perfectly right re the price being split up! - Fortunately I'm already pulling myself out of mp collecting.. he does look incredible tho and pretty solid which was my issue with my recent mp purchases
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117875)
Posted by william-james88 on October 7th, 2021 @ 9:56am CDT
TulioDude wrote:Is this scale accurate to the show?


Here's the show, so let me know ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehGdg7_ ... ikuro2pnt0
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117881)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 7th, 2021 @ 11:17am CDT
Immortal Starscream wrote:true, but it is a price that is broken up into smaller installments as opposed to Unicron's full upfront price, which is how a lot of people (not me) justify the third party combiner purchases. Some of which are more pricey then this guy.


Just to reiterate:

On Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:34 pm AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Some time ago, I mentioned a 3P Raiden set was in the works. Then HasTak alluded to an official something Raiden related and all went quiet on both fronts.


Via TF-Source and Moon Studio, we have the entire team of six up for pre-order. Due to arrive December 2021, $109.99 each. There is also currently a multi-purchase option for $659.94.

I'll update as and when more information drops.


MS01 Dark Knight
MS02 Ice Land
MS03 Iron Arm
MS04 Moon Shine
MS05 Green Zone
MS06 Cool Peak

Note: The images attached are only renders at the moment. They combine to form Radiatron.

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On Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:36 pm AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Update on Radiatron:

Each figure stands about 21CM/8.27" tall in robot mode.

Combine all 6 figures, Dark Knight, Ice Land, Iron Arm, Moon Shine, Green Zone and Cool Peak to form Radiatron.


For those interested, we have a completely different distribution method and pricing from Omegalock.co.uk

The six Train Bots are being sold as pairs, priced at £159.99. With a £39.99 deposit option available.

MS-01 Dark Knight & MS-02 Ice Land
MS-03 Iron Arm & MS-04 Moon Shine
MS-05 Green Zone & MS-06 Cool Peak

Which in total comes to £479.97 (or £119.97 via deposit). A cheaper alternative to TFSource, in light of customs, shipping etc.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117916)
Posted by WeatherManNX01 on October 7th, 2021 @ 4:13pm CDT
I'm intrigued, but I'd really like to know if Hasbro Pulse will offer it before I go preordering from elsewhere. :???:
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117930)
Posted by william-james88 on October 7th, 2021 @ 6:56pm CDT
WeatherManNX01 wrote:I'm intrigued, but I'd really like to know if Hasbro Pulse will offer it before I go preordering from elsewhere. :???:


They probably will but will also probably not be the best price
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117937)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 7th, 2021 @ 7:48pm CDT
Wow, Shouki looks really good! THAT style of robot really stands out to me, and the realistic train mode with tracks is fantastic. I love everything about it except the price. I placed a preorder, but I need to watch for cheaper options
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117948)
Posted by triKlops on October 7th, 2021 @ 8:20pm CDT
Got my preorder in at AJP.
I know it will take a price dip at some point but, yeah that was a tough one.
Better now though instead of on the aftermarket.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117952)
Posted by Emerje on October 7th, 2021 @ 9:26pm CDT
Says he only comes with one gun, but they clearly goofed and left a spare stored behind his leg in a few pictures.

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Also I'm pretty sure his torso mode isn't to scale here.

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I think it's enlarged just to show his placement and most likely parts of another figure will cover the obvious train parts to smooth out the sides of Raiden.

Emerje
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117956)
Posted by william-james88 on October 7th, 2021 @ 10:12pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I think it's enlarged just to show his placement and most likely parts of another figure will cover the obvious train parts to smooth out the sides of Raiden.

Emerje


it's definitely enlarged.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117987)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 8th, 2021 @ 4:48am CDT
Almost 200$CAN if I count taxes and shipping for what is basically a deluxe. That will be around a more than 1000$CAN combiner.

Allow me to NOPE out of this one.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117992)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 8th, 2021 @ 8:16am CDT
If it was Devastator, or Superion, or any other of the most popular G1 combiners instead of this obscure nobody, and the price was still the same for each of their components, would the price still be as much of a turnoff?
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117995)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 8th, 2021 @ 8:24am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:If it was Devastator, or Superion, or any other of the most popular G1 combiners instead of this obscure nobody, and the price was still the same for each of their components, would the price still be as much of a turnoff?


Maybe.
Especially because there's a zillion 3P offerings that are overall cheaper.

One thing going for MP Raiden is that only ONE 3P version exist. It's not even out yet and the price is almost the same.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2117999)
Posted by Emerje on October 8th, 2021 @ 9:08am CDT
For many of us 3P isn't even an option, we only buy the real deal so it's this or nothing.

Emerje
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118000)
Posted by o.supreme on October 8th, 2021 @ 9:10am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:If it was Devastator, or Superion, or any other of the most popular G1 combiners instead of this obscure nobody, and the price was still the same for each of their components, would the price still be as much of a turnoff?


I think it's uniqueness makes it more desirable. But I guess I am the opposite of most. Although UW/CW/PotP wasn't perfect, it has given me a solid representation of most combiners that I have added to my collection. I don't need any further updates to any of them, which is why Legacy Stuntacons don't interest me. So as you see in my list in my signature, any of the combiners that haven't been previously released (or even all new ones for that matter), I would prefer over rehashing the same old 3 or 4 most popular ones again.

The price is tough no matter what, but I'm glad it's Raiden, and not one of the more common combiners.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118002)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 8th, 2021 @ 9:19am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:If it was Devastator, or Superion, or any other of the most popular G1 combiners instead of this obscure nobody, and the price was still the same for each of their components, would the price still be as much of a turnoff?


For me, it would make it sooo much easier to say no if it was Devy or Superion. I already have decent versions of them. This looks like it will be the only version of Raiden for quite some time as I can't see Hasbro deciding to do a Legacy version while MP Raiden is still in production (if ever).
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118010)
Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2021 @ 9:51am CDT
The price already dropped on amazon to $135 USD. But that's only a 15% drop. I think it will drop more.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118011)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 8th, 2021 @ 9:54am CDT
william-james88 wrote:The price already dropped on amazon to $135 USD. But that's only a 15% drop. I think it will drop more.


I'm hoping so. I bit the bullet and pre-ordered already. With shipping I'm at $167 USD right now. I'd love to see it go lower.

Edit, I see him at 16592 JPY which was a 15% drop from when I added him to my list. However, that converts to $148 US according to Google. Is there another Listing you are seeing with a lower price?
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118013)
Posted by o.supreme on October 8th, 2021 @ 10:04am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The price already dropped on amazon to $135 USD. But that's only a 15% drop. I think it will drop more.


I'm hoping so. I bit the bullet and pre-ordered already. With shipping I'm at $167 USD right now. I'd love to see it go lower.

Edit, I see him at 16592 JPY which was a 15% drop from when I added him to my list. However, that converts to $148 US according to Google. Is there another Listing you are seeing with a lower price?


I found the same listing (Total $168 USD after shipping) . If there is a lower price listing I'd love to see it.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118020)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 8th, 2021 @ 10:55am CDT
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Transformers Masterpiece MPG-01 Trainbot Shouki Raiden Combiner

Pre-order scheduled to arrive in June/July


InDemand - £169.99

OhMyPrimus - $200.00

The Chosen Prime - $209.99

TFSource - $209.99

10% deposit options available.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118021)
Posted by o.supreme on October 8th, 2021 @ 11:01am CDT
well that certainly narrows the options . I guess its between amazon.jp vs whatever Hasbro Pulse offers.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118022)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 8th, 2021 @ 11:03am CDT
o.supreme wrote:well that certainly narrows the options . I guess its between amazon.jp vs whatever Hasbro Pulse offers.


That was my thinking also. I checked all my regular sources, including Pulse, and those listed were the only ones that currently noted the Train Bot.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118026)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 8th, 2021 @ 11:06am CDT
My guess is that Pulse will put him up for pre-order sometime next week. Right now I'm guessing they are focused on Haslab.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118031)
Posted by Emerje on October 8th, 2021 @ 11:45am CDT
william-james88 wrote:The price already dropped on amazon to $135 USD. But that's only a 15% drop. I think it will drop more.

I didn't notice this until I just read the original article again, but that price of 18,000jpy is already the MSRP without tax. The taxed price, which is what Amazon originally posted and can also be seen on AmiAmi, was 19,800jpy. Like everyone else, I haven't seen it priced at $135, maybe it was for just a few minutes? The current price I'm getting is $142, which I think is a good price.

Emerje
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118033)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 8th, 2021 @ 12:08pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The price already dropped on amazon to $135 USD. But that's only a 15% drop. I think it will drop more.

I didn't notice this until I just read the original article again, but that price of 18,000jpy is already the MSRP without tax. The taxed price, which is what Amazon originally posted and can also be seen on AmiAmi, was 19,800jpy. Like everyone else, I haven't seen it priced at $135, maybe it was for just a few minutes? The current price I'm getting is $142, which I think is a good price.

Emerje


Are you seeing 16592 JPY as the price? That's the price I'm seeing, but that converts to $148 according to google.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118038)
Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2021 @ 1:28pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The price already dropped on amazon to $135 USD. But that's only a 15% drop. I think it will drop more.

I didn't notice this until I just read the original article again, but that price of 18,000jpy is already the MSRP without tax. The taxed price, which is what Amazon originally posted and can also be seen on AmiAmi, was 19,800jpy. Like everyone else, I haven't seen it priced at $135, maybe it was for just a few minutes? The current price I'm getting is $142, which I think is a good price.

Emerje


Are you seeing 16592 JPY as the price? That's the price I'm seeing, but that converts to $148 according to google.


Yeah, that 16592 includes tax.

Here's the price I see when I enter it in my cart:

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So 135 USD baby!
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118039)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 8th, 2021 @ 1:41pm CDT
Okay, so how the hell do I get Amazon.jp to do that for me too? It looks like they are charging me tax.

2021-10-08 13_40_57-Amazon.co.jp Shopping Cart.png
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118047)
Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2021 @ 2:23pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Okay, so how the hell do I get Amazon.jp to do that for me too? It looks like they are charging me tax.

2021-10-08 13_40_57-Amazon.co.jp Shopping Cart.png


I'm sorry to say that I really don't know but that SUUUCKS.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118051)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 8th, 2021 @ 2:50pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Okay, so how the hell do I get Amazon.jp to do that for me too? It looks like they are charging me tax.

2021-10-08 13_40_57-Amazon.co.jp Shopping Cart.png


I'm sorry to say that I really don't know but that SUUUCKS.


Wanna something that suck more? Try ordering from Mexico....
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118057)
Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2021 @ 3:43pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Okay, so how the hell do I get Amazon.jp to do that for me too? It looks like they are charging me tax.

2021-10-08 13_40_57-Amazon.co.jp Shopping Cart.png


I'm sorry to say that I really don't know but that SUUUCKS.


Wanna something that suck more? Try ordering from Mexico....


Yeah, ordering from mexico sucks dick. And so does odering from israel. Only difference is those dicks are circumsized.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118061)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 8th, 2021 @ 4:44pm CDT
Anyway...sort of back on topic...

Does this revelation of the Trainbots and positive response give a higher chance of Hasbro making a possible commander class JRX? Or even a set of 3 leaders that combine?
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118068)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 8th, 2021 @ 6:55pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Anyway...sort of back on topic...

Does this revelation of the Trainbots and positive response give a higher chance of Hasbro making a possible commander class JRX? Or even a set of 3 leaders that combine?

I think with this selling well in japan, and v.saber blown past its original goal, I think this tells hasbro that victory et al is on the table as something we want, there's literally no economic downside to sprinkling in some obscure Japanese figures into the legacy line, they are a after all a big part of the tf legacy, but it might be a little early to see a titan class raiden
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118070)
Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2021 @ 7:02pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:well that certainly narrows the options . I guess its between amazon.jp vs whatever Hasbro Pulse offers.


And once pulse comes around, you'll see that Amazon is all that's really left.pulse is gonna charge you no less than 160 for this plus whatever shipping or tax is applicable.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118072)
Posted by o.supreme on October 8th, 2021 @ 7:48pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:well that certainly narrows the options . I guess its between amazon.jp vs whatever Hasbro Pulse offers.


And once pulse comes around, you'll see that Amazon is all that's really left.pulse is gonna charge you no less than 160 for this plus whatever shipping or tax is applicable.


Shipping is Free on Pulse (for U.S, residents anyway) for all orders over $50. So yeah, I'd say $145 USD (before tax) on Pulse is the *magic* number, any more, then yes Amazon.jp will be the better deal.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118073)
Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2021 @ 8:04pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:well that certainly narrows the options . I guess its between amazon.jp vs whatever Hasbro Pulse offers.


And once pulse comes around, you'll see that Amazon is all that's really left.pulse is gonna charge you no less than 160 for this plus whatever shipping or tax is applicable.


Shipping is Free on Pulse (for U.S, residents anyway) for all orders over $50. So yeah, I'd say $145 USD (before tax) on Pulse is the *magic* number, any more, then yes Amazon.jp will be the better deal.


It wont be 145 before tax. Pulse never charged below MSRP for a Takara MP toy. As I wrote above, it will be no less than 160 before tax. Could be more.

You are best to order on anazon now to lock in the lower price. You can always cancel if you find better elsewhere.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118078)
Posted by Emerje on October 8th, 2021 @ 9:10pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The price already dropped on amazon to $135 USD. But that's only a 15% drop. I think it will drop more.

I didn't notice this until I just read the original article again, but that price of 18,000jpy is already the MSRP without tax. The taxed price, which is what Amazon originally posted and can also be seen on AmiAmi, was 19,800jpy. Like everyone else, I haven't seen it priced at $135, maybe it was for just a few minutes? The current price I'm getting is $142, which I think is a good price.

Emerje


Are you seeing 16592 JPY as the price? That's the price I'm seeing, but that converts to $148 according to google.


Yeah, that 16592 includes tax.

Here's the price I see when I enter it in my cart:

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So 135 USD baby!

That's odd...

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I start from the same 16,592jpy, but that's what I get when I place the order which comes to $142. That's only about 4% tax they're taking off where you're getting the full 10%. Something isn't right there...

Oh, and Kev, you have to start to check out to get the discount, it won't appear in your cart.

Emerje
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118081)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 8th, 2021 @ 9:45pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Anyway...sort of back on topic...

Does this revelation of the Trainbots and positive response give a higher chance of Hasbro making a possible commander class JRX? Or even a set of 3 leaders that combine?

I think with this selling well in japan, and v.saber blown past its original goal, I think this tells hasbro that victory et al is on the table as something we want, there's literally no economic downside to sprinkling in some obscure Japanese figures into the legacy line, they are a after all a big part of the tf legacy, but it might be a little early to see a titan class raiden
Isn't this reveal the 1st step toward that? Or am I misunderstanding how big this train figure is?

Also, I was asking what you guys thought the chances of getting an update of the train bots from Car Robots is after this was revealed.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118083)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 8th, 2021 @ 10:03pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Anyway...sort of back on topic...

Does this revelation of the Trainbots and positive response give a higher chance of Hasbro making a possible commander class JRX? Or even a set of 3 leaders that combine?

I think with this selling well in japan, and v.saber blown past its original goal, I think this tells hasbro that victory et al is on the table as something we want, there's literally no economic downside to sprinkling in some obscure Japanese figures into the legacy line, they are a after all a big part of the tf legacy, but it might be a little early to see a titan class raiden
Isn't this reveal the 1st step toward that? Or am I misunderstanding how big this train figure is?

Also, I was asking what you guys thought the chances of getting an update of the train bots from Car Robots is after this was revealed.


Not as big as you may think. Raiden has some pedigree to him, while JRX/Rail Racer doesn't as much thanks to Car Robots not being that popular. Also, don't forget that TakaraTomy has Shinkansen Henkei Robo Shinkalion, which features contemporary trains like J5/Railspike's 500 Series Nozomi.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118088)
Posted by First-Aid on October 8th, 2021 @ 11:43pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Not as big as you may think. Raiden has some pedigree to him, while JRX/Rail Racer doesn't as much thanks to Car Robots not being that popular. Also, don't forget that TakaraTomy has Shinkansen Henkei Robo Shinkalion, which features contemporary trains like J5/Railspike's 500 Series Nozomi.


I have disagree entirely. I consider myself a fairly educated Transformers collector. I've got over 5,000 figures. Yet the train bots are not nearly as well known to me as the Rail Racer RiD1 figures. Maybe I'm the aberration but RiD was actually ON TV in the US, while the trainbots were NOT. Frankly, I was hoping that we'd be looking at a MP Rail Racer rather than what we are getting. I think we'd be getting more of our money's worth with the Rail Racer team. I feel like this is a HUGE gamble by TakaraTomy.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118089)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 9th, 2021 @ 12:17am CDT
First-Aid wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Not as big as you may think. Raiden has some pedigree to him, while JRX/Rail Racer doesn't as much thanks to Car Robots not being that popular. Also, don't forget that TakaraTomy has Shinkansen Henkei Robo Shinkalion, which features contemporary trains like J5/Railspike's 500 Series Nozomi.


I have disagree entirely. I consider myself a fairly educated Transformers collector. I've got over 5,000 figures. Yet the train bots are not nearly as well known to me as the Rail Racer RiD1 figures. Maybe I'm the aberration but RiD was actually ON TV in the US, while the trainbots were NOT. Frankly, I was hoping that we'd be looking at a MP Rail Racer rather than what we are getting. I think we'd be getting more of our money's worth with the Rail Racer team. I feel like this is a HUGE gamble by TakaraTomy.
JelZe was talking about the perspective of these characters in Japan, not the U.S.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118094)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 9th, 2021 @ 5:51am CDT
I have a feeling that this will pay off nicely for Takara in Japan, the rest of the world isnt much of a worry for them.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118099)
Posted by william-james88 on October 9th, 2021 @ 8:29am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I have a feeling that this will pay off nicely for Takara in Japan, the rest of the world isnt much of a worry for them.


Yup, Takara doesn't think of the market outside Japan for their initiatives. This set is pretty awesome for them since it interests several different hobby audiences at once and the fact that this toy is number 1 on Amazon means it's working.

And Sabrblade, to answer your question, I think people were always going to complain about the price, regardless of the character. We've seen it happen time and time again ever since Dinobot, prices on MPs have gone really high it's more of a surprise when it's lower like Skids. Here we have a licenced train bot MP that has 3 modes and is priced between MP Blackarachnia and Tgatron. The only reason why this complaint is more apparent is because buying this one toy means buying 5 others so the high price stings more than usual. I mean, it should have been obvious from the onset but now people are seeing it officially and realize what it actually means to have an MP combiner.

I knew this would be coming so I was never invested in this news. I swore off the MP line in general aside from the BW MPs, prices have gone very high and I have the same satisfaction from WFC figures when it comes to G1 characters (plus, I have no space for these MP boxes).
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118104)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 9th, 2021 @ 9:54am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I have a feeling that this will pay off nicely for Takara in Japan, the rest of the world isnt much of a worry for them.


Yup, Takara doesn't think of the market outside Japan for their initiatives. This set is pretty awesome for them since it interests several different hobby audiences at once and the fact that this toy is number 1 on Amazon means it's working.

And Sabrblade, to answer your question, I think people were always going to complain about the price, regardless of the character. We've seen it happen time and time again ever since Dinobot, prices on MPs have gone really high it's more of a surprise when it's lower like Skids. Here we have a licenced train bot MP that has 3 modes and is priced between MP Blackarachnia and Tgatron. The only reason why this complaint is more apparent is because buying this one toy means buying 5 others so the high price stings more than usual. I mean, it should have been obvious from the onset but now people are seeing it officially and realize what it actually means to have an MP combiner.

I knew this would be coming so I was never invested in this news. I swore off the MP line in general aside from the BW MPs, prices have gone very high and I have the same satisfaction from WFC figures when it comes to G1 characters (plus, I have no space for these MP boxes).

Precisely, we've seen the pricing on the mps so we shouldn't have been surprised. What probably didn't help was the comments about scale and the talk of Unite Warriors, with people clinging to a misguided belief that the set would be priced similar.

Also trying to gauge what will come next after this is a fools errand, just like people saying that Star Saber will open the doors to JG1 in Generations when realistically, you won't get anything of the sort till after 2023-2024 due to product development times.

On a different note, at least we can relax safe in the knowledge that MP Skyfire will cost more then one MP Trainbot :lol:
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118107)
Posted by Emerje on October 9th, 2021 @ 11:30am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Also trying to gauge what will come next after this is a fools errand, just like people saying that Star Saber will open the doors to JG1 in Generations when realistically, you won't get anything of the sort till after 2023-2024 due to product development times.

That's Hasbro's fault for making people think that when we've had any number of Japanese characters in the line. We already know we have Black Zarak and Minerva coming next year and that has nothing to do with Victory Saber.


Emerje
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118111)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 9th, 2021 @ 12:29pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Also trying to gauge what will come next after this is a fools errand, just like people saying that Star Saber will open the doors to JG1 in Generations when realistically, you won't get anything of the sort till after 2023-2024 due to product development times.

That's Hasbro's fault for making people think that when we've had any number of Japanese characters in the line. We already know we have Black Zarak and Minerva coming next year and that has nothing to do with Victory Saber.


Emerje

Good point, especially getting black Zarak's minion a good few months before. Then there was the other sprinklings we've had over the years (and nods such as how Universe Cyclonus could connect with his target master which was straight from the Headmasters cartoon)
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118112)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 9th, 2021 @ 12:57pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:(and nods such as how Universe Cyclonus could connect with his target master which was straight from the Headmasters cartoon)
Which, ironically, was a completely different Hasbro team from the one that's been giving us all these Japanese characters in the past two trilogies, especially since that older team was from the Archer Era that explicitly lacked that much knowledge of Japanese Transformers fiction (and thus cared little about it).

If anything, I bet that feature was something added specifically by Takashi Kunihiro, since he was one of the three designers who worked on that figure.
Re: Scale and Features of MPG 01 Trainbot Shouki Shown in New Video from Takara (2118158)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 10th, 2021 @ 10:27am CDT
Asking the elephant in the room, what is the general consensus on Masterpiece combiners having separate connector parts for the Gestalt? Should they be part of the design, for the price point??

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