Shia LaBeouf Interview: "Megan Fox’s absence changed ‘Transformers’ vibe"
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“Megan developed this Spice Girl strength, this woman-empowerment [stuff] that made her feel awkward about her involvement with Michael, who some people think is a very lascivious filmmaker, the way he films women,” LaBeouf said. “Mike films women in a way that appeals to a 16-year-old sexuality. It’s summer. It’s Michael’s style. And I think [Fox] never got comfortable with it.
“Rosie comes with this Victoria’s Secret background, and she’s comfortable with it, so she can get down with Mike’s way of working and it makes the whole set vibe very different,” LaBeouf said.
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Posted by dinogeist on June 3rd, 2011 @ 9:54am CDT
IT'S ALL ODD,because in 2 of megan fox's other movies. she played a call girl in JONAX HEX in a overly revealing call girl outfit. then she played a over sex crazed zombie with overly revealing clothes in another movie called "Jennifers body". she even had a lesbian make out scene in "jennifers body" & wore panties & a bra.
To make things ODDER,Megan fox was playing a sex simple role in a syndicated TV show. a similar role to what Christina appelgate played in the "married with childred" TV show.
Posted by Blackstreak on June 3rd, 2011 @ 10:02am CDT
Posted by SoooTrypticon on June 3rd, 2011 @ 10:06am CDT
It's all about tone too. Actors have to trust their directors, especially when they play sex objects like Megan does. If you're going to play roles like that, you hope to work with a director who will treat you with respect and grace, on and OFF camera.
I suspect Bay knows how to do neither.
Also telling is Lebouf's comment that "Now that we have some girl who's used to being nothing but an object of desire for 16 year old boys, (read: "knows her place"), us men can rest easy around the set."
Yes, yes, these films are truly a work of lasting art that deserve money and praise. We should all be proud in supporting them.
Posted by RiddlerJ on June 3rd, 2011 @ 10:06am CDT
Isn't that Megan Fox's entire persona?
Actually, I think this is just the publicity machine trying to say "You thought the girls in the first two movies looked slutty, wait til you see what we do with the girls in this one!"
Posted by juxtapose519 on June 3rd, 2011 @ 10:16am CDT
Posted by Sodan-1 on June 3rd, 2011 @ 10:58am CDT
deathy wrote:ODD how megan Fox didn't want to wear any sexy revealing clothes in the TF 2007 & ROTF movie. Also odd how megan didn't want any close up sexy shots. Also odd megan didn't want to play/act as a sex symbol.
IT'S ALL ODD,because in 2 of megan fox's other movies. she played a call girl in JONAX HEX in a overly revealing call girl outfit. then she played a over sex crazed zombie with overly revealing clothes in another movie called "Jennifers body". she even had a lesbian make out scene in "jennifers body" & wore panties & a bra.
To make things ODDER,Megan fox was playing a sex simple role in a syndicated TV show. a similar role to what Christina appelgate played in the "married with childred" TV show.
If you look at those two movies, her character is meant to be sexy/slutty/whatever. It's part of who her character is. I doubt Jake Gyllenhaal goes around kissing blokes all day, but he did it for Broke Back Mountain because that was part of the character. In Transformers, Fox was playing the industry mandatory love interest, but it quickly degraded into nothing more than on-screen totty with no real purpose.
And yes, there is a difference between love interest and sex object.
Posted by Capt.Failure on June 3rd, 2011 @ 11:09am CDT
Blackstreak wrote:So, Fox is comfortable doing sex scenes in western movies but doesn't like sexy clothes in sci-fi? Ah well, Fox or not I'm still looking forward to this next TF installment.
I never doubted the fact that Megan Fox is a damned hypocrite.
SoooTrypticon wrote:It's all about tone too. Actors have to trust their directors, especially when they play sex objects like Megan does. If you're going to play roles like that, you hope to work with a director who will treat you with respect and grace, on and OFF camera.
I suspect Bay knows how to do neither.
Also telling is Lebouf's comment that "Now that we have some girl who's used to being nothing but an object of desire for 16 year old boys, (read: "knows her place"), us men can rest easy around the set.
I failed to find sexism, especially with Fox's noted hypocracy on the matter. Fox didn't like Bay because of the fact he's a very demanding director during his action scenes and she's a precious little princess who doesn't know how to think of anyone but herself. Lebouf's comments seem to say that Rosie's better at following the director's orders, something any actor must know how to do especially during filming of a movie this complex and dangerous to shoot.
SoooTrypticon wrote:Yes, yes, these films are truly a work of lasting art that deserve money and praise. We should all be proud in supporting them
Posted by crystalwidow on June 3rd, 2011 @ 11:09am CDT
other than that I can't wait for the next installment of the Transformers
Posted by CrimsonPrime on June 3rd, 2011 @ 11:30am CDT
Still cant wait for TF 3 nonetheless !
Posted by SoooTrypticon on June 3rd, 2011 @ 12:00pm CDT
I failed to find sexism
precious little princess
Wait a minute, I just found it.
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 3rd, 2011 @ 12:10pm CDT
Posted by bthree78 on June 3rd, 2011 @ 12:19pm CDT
Posted by krenger99 on June 3rd, 2011 @ 12:48pm CDT
CrimsonPrime wrote:Huh let's just hope that the character "Carly" isnt slutty.
You'll be happy to know that in the G1 cartoon, Carly was a genius type girl. There was nothing slutty about her and she went on to be Spike's (Sam) wife and mother of his son, Daniel. When the first movie came out, I initially thought the brainy blonde that broke the code was meant to be her.
Posted by Dagon on June 3rd, 2011 @ 12:57pm CDT
SoooTrypticon wrote:Also telling is Lebouf's comment that "Now that we have some girl who's used to being nothing but an object of desire for 16 year old boys, (read: "knows her place"), us men can rest easy around the set."
I find that an unsettling comment as well. I'm not trying to claim some great male mysogonist conspiracy here, but I think the Megan Fox bashing has gone on just a bit too long, and it's crossing over into that Uncomfortable territory.
SoooTrypticon wrote:I failed to find sexismprecious little princess
Wait a minute, I just found it.
In total fairness to Capt. Failure, whos rank of captain I have already questioned today , I understand what the Captain meant, and also acknowledge that SoooTrypticon has removed these lines from their original context.
That being said, it's a terrific example of the 'sexist' nature of the Lebouf interview. Like, it's fine for Shai to say this stuff about Fox, but we're all supposed to ignore and chide people who found the Twins to be on the racist side. The Twins may have implied the folly of racism, but Shai implied sexism. Someone will tell me it's a different thing though, or that I'm white knighting, and that's cool, because people used a similar style of thought to deny/support the Twins. So, as long as we're consistant, I'm good with both sides.
Posted by Dagon on June 3rd, 2011 @ 1:01pm CDT
krenger99 wrote:CrimsonPrime wrote:Huh let's just hope that the character "Carly" isnt slutty.
You'll be happy to know that in the G1 cartoon, Carly was a genius type girl. There was nothing slutty about her and she went on to be Spike's (Sam) wife and mother of his son, Daniel. When the first movie came out, I initially thought the brainy blonde that broke the code was meant to be her.
The video in you sig is hysterical. I just wanted you to know that.
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 3rd, 2011 @ 1:02pm CDT
krenger99 wrote:CrimsonPrime wrote:Huh let's just hope that the character "Carly" isnt slutty.
You'll be happy to know that in the G1 cartoon, Carly was a genius type girl. There was nothing slutty about her and she went on to be Spike's (Sam) wife and mother of his son, Daniel. When the first movie came out, I initially thought the brainy blonde that broke the code was meant to be her.
Oh, damn!!! I just thought of this! What if the new TF movie series is a sequel to this series and features Daniel, who is Sam's son!? Ok, now I'm kind of excited that DOTM will be the last of the series, now that I know there is a possibility of it being a continuation rather than a reboot. IDK why I didn't think of this before.
Posted by 5150 Cruiser on June 3rd, 2011 @ 1:54pm CDT
Sodan-1 wrote: If you look at those two movies, her character is meant to be sexy/slutty/whatever. It's part of who her character is. I doubt Jake Gyllenhaal goes around kissing blokes all day, but he did it for Broke Back Mountain because that was part of the character. In Transformers, Fox was playing the industry mandatory love interest, but it quickly degraded into nothing more than on-screen totty with no real purpose.
And yes, there is a difference between love interest and sex object.
Very true. All good points.
crystalwidow wrote:I think that if (Fox) is willing to play the roles she played in Jonah Hex and Jennifers body she cant complain about the type of character she plays in TF, b/c the other roles are far less approprate and if this role bothered her she should have said something earlier.
The difference is she knew what the role was going to involve going in. And being that, there ussualy is a different pay scale associated with it.
Posted by Capt.Failure on June 3rd, 2011 @ 2:14pm CDT
SoooTrypticon wrote:I failed to find sexismprecious little princess
Wait a minute, I just found it.
Nothing to do with sexism, that's just her personality. If she wasn't that way I'd have no reason to say it.
Don't try to confuse sexism with someone's personality to justify your arguement.
Dagon wrote:In total fairness to Capt. Failure, whos rank of captain I have already questioned today , I understand what the Captain meant, and also acknowledge that SoooTrypticon has removed these lines from their original context.
Hey, somebody has to captain the Failboat.
And yeah, love it when people try to spindoctor what I say.
Posted by RiddlerJ on June 3rd, 2011 @ 2:38pm CDT
what the hell is Spice Girl Strength?
Posted by Capt.Failure on June 3rd, 2011 @ 3:29pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:On an unrelated note,
what the hell is Spice Girl Strength?
What Hollywood thinks makes a strong, independant woman instead of what a strong, independant woman is like in reality?
Posted by craggy on June 3rd, 2011 @ 3:55pm CDT
Posted by craggy on June 3rd, 2011 @ 3:57pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:On an unrelated note,
what the hell is Spice Girl Strength?
an equally un-pc term as Retard Strength, that means the same thing, only wearing a Union Jack dress?
Posted by SoooTrypticon on June 3rd, 2011 @ 4:19pm CDT
Don't try to confuse sexism with someone's personality to justify your arguement.
When you refer to a difficult woman as a "princess" you're being demeaning and sexist. Otherwise you wouldn't use a feminine type to strike an insult.
You could just call her a "jerk."
Nuff said.
Posted by Capt.Failure on June 3rd, 2011 @ 5:12pm CDT
SoooTrypticon wrote:Don't try to confuse sexism with someone's personality to justify your arguement.
When you refer to a difficult woman as a "princess" you're being demeaning and sexist. Otherwise you wouldn't use a feminine type to strike an insult.
You could just call her a "jerk."
Nuff said.
And I've used the same term to describe men before. Now what?
Posted by SoooTrypticon on June 3rd, 2011 @ 5:40pm CDT
Now what?
Then you dig the hole a little deeper.
Posted by Capt.Failure on June 3rd, 2011 @ 5:58pm CDT
Posted by SoooTrypticon on June 3rd, 2011 @ 6:15pm CDT
Posted by craggy on June 3rd, 2011 @ 7:02pm CDT
Posted by dinogeist on June 3rd, 2011 @ 7:05pm CDT
but when both women got fired. they both spoke badly about them afterwards. all in a desperate attemp to look like great COMPANY employed men & to win over their fellow workers still employed on the show/movie.
Posted by Capt.Failure on June 3rd, 2011 @ 7:18pm CDT
deathy wrote:Shia le bouf REMINDS me of dylan from that 90210 show. In regards that both shia & dylan were the biggest supporters/friends of megan fox/brenda.
but when both women got fired. they both spoke badly about them afterwards. all in a desperate attemp to look like great COMPANY employed men & to win over their fellow workers still employed on the show/movie.
In review of the quoted lines on the first page I tend to agree. Assuming I'm reading what you said right, that didn't seem like sexism on Bay's part (the female leads of his other films that I've seen trend against the "16 year old" thing Lebouf said) and more on Lebouf's part.
Posted by craggy on June 3rd, 2011 @ 7:21pm CDT
Posted by courtdevil on June 3rd, 2011 @ 8:22pm CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 3rd, 2011 @ 8:29pm CDT
courtdevil wrote:Shia is just being nice on both parties, one becoming too arrogant with the fame gained and the other one trying to show who her boss is.
Lol, "boss".
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on June 3rd, 2011 @ 8:53pm CDT
Posted by NamelessOne on June 4th, 2011 @ 4:13am CDT
Capt.Failure wrote:deathy wrote:Shia le bouf REMINDS me of dylan from that 90210 show. In regards that both shia & dylan were the biggest supporters/friends of megan fox/brenda.
but when both women got fired. they both spoke badly about them afterwards. all in a desperate attemp to look like great COMPANY employed men & to win over their fellow workers still employed on the show/movie.
In review of the quoted lines on the first page I tend to agree. Assuming I'm reading what you said right, that didn't seem like sexism on Bay's part (the female leads of his other films that I've seen trend against the "16 year old" thing Lebouf said) and more on Lebouf's part.
I've found his comments here to be extremely offensive to women in particular, and to the rest of the human race - whilst also displaying that 'teacher's pet' behaviour gets you places!
Yup, Mr LaBeouf is well schooled in schmoozing the right people (directors and producers) - whilst I found him entertaining in Disturbia, he has managed to get very far in the movie business using the same tired shtick.
Having watched both of the movies again recently, he was as, if not more annoying than, all the other humans that feature prominently in the movies - in that he has more screen time to whine, whinge, and act the smartass.
Lest not forget that (for older fans) he managed to completely sink the Indiana Jones franchise with his presence in Indy 4 (another example of sucking up to Steven Spielberg), and, talking to people who watched it, he did the same again in Wall Street 2 (sucking up to Oliver Stone).
Chances are, if Shia LeBoeuf is on board for a sequel to a much-loved film, he's gonna make it 'jump the shark' by performing his 2005 era SoCal spoiled teen routine (even though he's what age now, mid twenties?) even if it's set in a different era entirely. Get a new act, man!
Posted by RhA on June 4th, 2011 @ 4:52am CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:On an unrelated note,
what the hell is Spice Girl Strength?
Forgive me the typo.
Posted by Cyber Bishop on June 4th, 2011 @ 11:09am CDT
SoooTrypticon wrote:That topic would be the rampant sexism in the Bayformers trilogy- and the community that supports it.
No need for this.
Posted by dinogeist on June 4th, 2011 @ 11:51am CDT
NaM3L3sS wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:deathy wrote:Shia le bouf REMINDS me of dylan from that 90210 show. In regards that both shia & dylan were the biggest supporters/friends of megan fox/brenda.
but when both women got fired. they both spoke badly about them afterwards. all in a desperate attemp to look like great COMPANY employed men & to win over their fellow workers still employed on the show/movie.
In review of the quoted lines on the first page I tend to agree. Assuming I'm reading what you said right, that didn't seem like sexism on Bay's part (the female leads of his other films that I've seen trend against the "16 year old" thing Lebouf said) and more on Lebouf's part.
I've found his comments here to be extremely offensive to women in particular, and to the rest of the human race - whilst also displaying that 'teacher's pet' behaviour gets you places!
Yup, Mr LaBeouf is well schooled in schmoozing the right people (directors and producers) - whilst I found him entertaining in Disturbia, he has managed to get very far in the movie business using the same tired shtick.
Having watched both of the movies again recently, he was as, if not more annoying than, all the other humans that feature prominently in the movies - in that he has more screen time to whine, whinge, and act the smartass.
Lest not forget that (for older fans) he managed to completely sink the Indiana Jones franchise with his presence in Indy 4 (another example of sucking up to Steven Spielberg), and, talking to people who watched it, he did the same again in Wall Street 2 (sucking up to Oliver Stone).
Chances are, if Shia LeBoeuf is on board for a sequel to a much-loved film, he's gonna make it 'jump the shark' by performing his 2005 era SoCal spoiled teen routine (even though he's what age now, mid twenties?) even if it's set in a different era entirely. Get a new act, man!
any reboot will have entirely different persona's for the robots & humans. at best it'll exist in another Transformers alternate universe.
If micheal bay isn't on board after TF3/DOTM. I don't think micheal bay would want anyone else messing with his established stories & characters in a TF4 movie. That's why it's rumored that the DOTM Movie will have a definate ending with epic final last stand battles.
Posted by featofstrength on June 4th, 2011 @ 1:49pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:I'm just glad she's gone. She was the wort thing about both movies.
Nope. I might agree with that if i could be assured that Sam's parents (especially Mom) and Agent Simmons' underwear will also be absent from DOTM.
I'd still take Megan over Rosie for looks anyday...Rosie's face...
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on June 5th, 2011 @ 2:50am CDT
Personally, I'm indifferent to her as an actress in both TF movies. She served her purpose as the protag's love interest and general eye candy, no more no less.
If she feels such roles in TF aren't good enough for her, that's okay. But she really didn't have to make a fuss about it, calling Bay Hitler and stating in an E! interview that she didn't get a chance to show off her acting chops in ROTF. Honestly, what kind of Oscar-winning performance can you possible pull off as a supporting actress in a CG-driven action movie for kids?
Posted by shamone on June 5th, 2011 @ 10:34am CDT
I really am !
Posted by crystalwidow on June 6th, 2011 @ 10:20am CDT
Posted by Sailor Destron on June 6th, 2011 @ 11:41am CDT
Bay and Bay had his hands all over her.
You guys are being awfuly harsh to Megan Fox, arn't you? I mean, just a few years ago, you were all talking about how hot she is, and now she's slutty? Maybe you're just mad she's leaving? You know I never liked her, but I think she kinda grows on you...
By the way- I really hate Carly in the movie. I loved the G1 Carly-she reminded me of myself (blonde, cute, smart, loved transformers)but the movie Carly... well I won't say it.
Posted by Spleenzorio on June 6th, 2011 @ 1:54pm CDT
Sailor Destron wrote:You guys are being awfuly harsh to Megan Fox, arn't you? I mean, just a few years ago, you were all talking about how hot she is, and now she's slutty? Maybe you're just mad she's leaving? You know I never liked her, but I think she kinda grows on you...
Exactly, how hot she is. Not her acting, but her appearance. You know how many guys who aren't even into the franchise watched the movies just for her? Not to take anything away from Megan Fox, I'm sure she's done well in her other movies (none of which I have seen) but her acting in these movies weren't all that great. And even if she wasn't given a 'chance to show her acting abilities', based on her first two outings her abilities better have been leaps and bounds over what she did before.