Steven DeKnight on Paramount Transformers Universe Writers Room
Wednesday, July 29th, 2015 1:45AM CDT
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Taking a page from how a TV show is run, Paramount assembled a big group of experienced writers to help chart out the future of the Transformers film series, under the guidance of Akiva Goldsman, as the studio looks to build more of an expanded Transformers movie universe. I asked DeKnight what the experience was like taking that TV dynamic and using it in film, and he had an enthusiastic reply.
“It's that wonderful thing where features are now taking a page from television and getting people together to really try and plan things out. It was a wonderful experience. Akiva Goldsman was fantastic and Jeff Pinkner, who's co-writing the fifth [Transformers] movie with him was phenomenal. Zak Penn... It was just a room full of brilliant, funny, amazing people. And we spent two and a half weeks in physically the best writers room I've ever seen in my life. Paramount pulled out all the stops. It was phenomenal! We laughed and joked and told stories and plotted out...”
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Posted by Windsweeper on July 29th, 2015 @ 5:31am CDT
How is his involvement a good thing? Bad enough Bay is still around
Posted by Madeus Prime on July 29th, 2015 @ 3:52pm CDT
Windsweeper wrote:Didn't Akiva Goldsman write Batman Forever and Batman & Robin?
How is his involvement a good thing? Bad enough Bay is still around
Yeah, and Lost in Space. If he's writing TF5, maybe it'll kill the franchise like the two Batman movies did, only to be properly done 8 years later!!
Posted by YRQRM0 on July 29th, 2015 @ 4:13pm CDT
Posted by fighterknight on August 5th, 2015 @ 12:23pm CDT
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Whether it would be a good or bad film, I'd love a Beast Wars adaption regardless of if the characters are slandered
I'd love for a big screen adaptation of Beast Wars. I don't see it happening though. All the movies thus far have been more human centric then focusing on the Transformers themselves.
I could see it getting rebooted sooner rather then later. I think they will finish out the story they started in AoE, but then reboot it due to the writers room and wanting to make a bigger universe.
Posted by Cmdr. Trailblazer on August 8th, 2015 @ 10:16pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on August 8th, 2015 @ 10:34pm CDT
fighterknight wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Whether it would be a good or bad film, I'd love a Beast Wars adaption regardless of if the characters are slandered
I'd love for a big screen adaptation of Beast Wars. I don't see it happening though. All the movies thus far have been more human centric then focusing on the Transformers themselves.
I could see it getting rebooted sooner rather then later. I think they will finish out the story they started in AoE, but then reboot it due to the writers room and wanting to make a bigger universe.
Me too, and I think AOE Scorn would be a perfect figure to remold into Beast Wars Megs! I actually haven't gotten Scorn because I don't really care for the AOE Dinobots, but if they remade it into Megatron then HOLY CRAP I would definitely keep my eye on it!
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 9th, 2015 @ 6:07am CDT
Cmdr. Trailblazer wrote: Also, what about the comics? Will they be tossed out the window?
Maybe they'll go all Star Wars on this! & only stories after a certain point will become Canon! & all others before....are obviously not part of the TCU(Transformers Cinematic Universe)YES! I know the original TF Movie was the exception! as it had comic tie-ins, but for the new & upcoming expanded cinematic universe!......that'll be a whole new ballgame.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 10th, 2015 @ 12:53pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2015 @ 2:07pm CDT
I wouldn't say "nullified" so much as "ignored" or "potentially contradicted" things the comics did. All it would take would be a competent writer like John Barber to patch things up again with some more Movieverse comics, since there's still some room in the greater Movieverse timeline for such patch jobs to be done. The only problem with that solution is that IDW currently doesn't have any plans for further Movieverse comics to be done at this time.That Bot wrote:The movies have never given any regard to the comics before, I doubt they'll start now. Didn't Sabrblade say that Age of Extinction nullified a lot of the stuff the comics did that tried to explain the plot holes in the movies?
Posted by JazZeke on August 10th, 2015 @ 2:49pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The only problem with that solution is that IDW currently doesn't have any plans for further Movieverse comics to be done at this time.
Is that really so unfortunate? Is the movieverse really worth salvaging with comics?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2015 @ 7:02pm CDT
Well, the Movieverse comics are probably the best Movieverse fiction there is, with several (but not all) of them being pretty cool in their own right.JazZeke wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The only problem with that solution is that IDW currently doesn't have any plans for further Movieverse comics to be done at this time.
Is that really so unfortunate? Is the movieverse really worth salvaging with comics?
And that a lot of them were able to fix many of the continuity and overall storytelling problems of the films was a delicious icing on the cake.
Posted by JazZeke on August 10th, 2015 @ 9:27pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Well, the Movieverse comics are probably the best Movieverse fiction there is, with several (but not all) of them being pretty cool in their own right.JazZeke wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The only problem with that solution is that IDW currently doesn't have any plans for further Movieverse comics to be done at this time.
Is that really so unfortunate? Is the movieverse really worth salvaging with comics?
And that a lot of them were able to fix many of the continuity and overall storytelling problems of the films was a delicious icing on the cake.
I enjoyed many of them myself, but when the comics are so busy just trying to patch continuity, story often takes a back seat.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 10th, 2015 @ 9:52pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2015 @ 9:58pm CDT
Yeah, cuz CGI Maximals and Predacons in a live background is that much different that CGI Maximals and Predacons in a CGI background.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Still would be pretty cool to have a live-action beast wars movie...
Don't get me wrong, I love Beast Wars, but it's because I care so much for it that I'd much rather Hollywood leave well enough alone, lest we end up with a film featuring a freakishly hideous Optimus Primal that eat bugs picked from off of his back and throws his own poop at the audience in 3D.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 10th, 2015 @ 11:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, cuz CGI Maximals and Predacons in a live background is that much different that CGI Maximals and Predacons in a CGI background.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Still would be pretty cool to have a live-action beast wars movie...
Don't get me wrong, I love Beast Wars, but it's because I care so much for it that I'd much rather Hollywood leave well enough alone, lest we end up with a film featuring a freakishly hideous Optimus Primal that eat bugs picked from off of his back and throws his own poop at the audience in 3D.
Well, believable realistic looking looks, not necessarily live action. And personally if they got the right people they could make it a hit. I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2015 @ 11:53pm CDT
Beast Wars: Uprising is a good modern spotlight if you ask me.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
And IDW's probably got something going down with that colony world Eukaris.
Posted by Zeedust on August 11th, 2015 @ 4:29am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, cuz CGI Maximals and Predacons in a live background is that much different that CGI Maximals and Predacons in a CGI background.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Still would be pretty cool to have a live-action beast wars movie...
Don't get me wrong, I love Beast Wars, but it's because I care so much for it that I'd much rather Hollywood leave well enough alone, lest we end up with a film featuring a freakishly hideous Optimus Primal that eat bugs picked from off of his back and throws his own poop at the audience in 3D.
Yeah, do we really want a Beast Wars movie where Cheetor can't talk? ...Wait, that's probably a bad example.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 11th, 2015 @ 8:14am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars: Uprising is a good modern spotlight if you ask me.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
And IDW's probably got something going down with that colony world Eukaris.
Having just read the preview, I am excited for Eukaris!
Posted by Indess on August 21st, 2015 @ 1:03am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars: Uprising is a good modern spotlight if you ask me.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
And IDW's probably got something going down with that colony world Eukaris.
Having just read the preview, I am excited for Eukaris!
What was your first experience with Eukaris when you came to know about it first time?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 22nd, 2015 @ 11:23am CDT
Indess wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars: Uprising is a good modern spotlight if you ask me.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
And IDW's probably got something going down with that colony world Eukaris.
Having just read the preview, I am excited for Eukaris!
What was your first experience with Eukaris when you came to know about it first time?
Eukaris was an interesting colony world and a cool take on the classic beast wars. I like that all the guys are split into tribes based on beast mode, almost like functionalism for beasts. I also liked that Tigatron and Airazor were outcasts to be with one another. I look forward to what they will do with the beasts and what kinds of characters will spring up there
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 23rd, 2015 @ 5:44am CDT
I'm sure i've mentioned this in a post before.....I'm certain that Transformers turned up in some of the comics(this is going back years ago) that were done by Marvel. & YES I know Hasbro owns the rights to Transformers! before anyone bleats on about that! & YES I know there could be a possible Transformers/GI Joe movie.
Posted by Burn on August 23rd, 2015 @ 6:29am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:Any chance that we could see The Avengers popping up in any of the Transformers Cinematic Universe related material?(it doesn't just have to be the movies....it could be comic book tie-ins or even any future videogame tie-in)
Oh hell no. Not after the train wreck that was the Avengers/Transformers comic mini-series.
Besides, neither franchises need a cross-over like that. Marvel have plans for their characters for many years to come yet.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 26th, 2015 @ 3:13am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:Any chance that we could see The Avengers popping up in any of the Transformers Cinematic Universe related material?(it doesn't just have to be the movies....it could be comic book tie-ins or even any future videogame tie-in)
I'm sure i've mentioned this in a post before.....I'm certain that Transformers turned up in some of the comics(this is going back years ago) that were done by Marvel. & YES I know Hasbro owns the rights to Transformers! before anyone bleats on about that! & YES I know there could be a possible Transformers/GI Joe movie.
That was back when Marvel Comics had the publishing rights. Now they belong to IDW. Plus, Paramount owns the Transformers films, and Disney owns the Marvel films. Too many deals to be made, money to be split, and if their turn on Power Rangers showed anything, it's that Disney doesn't like to share profits. And as Burn said, the MCU is planned out through 2019, and that's just the projects we know about. It ain't happening.
Posted by JazZeke on August 26th, 2015 @ 5:41pm CDT
That Bot wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:Any chance that we could see The Avengers popping up in any of the Transformers Cinematic Universe related material?(it doesn't just have to be the movies....it could be comic book tie-ins or even any future videogame tie-in)
I'm sure i've mentioned this in a post before.....I'm certain that Transformers turned up in some of the comics(this is going back years ago) that were done by Marvel. & YES I know Hasbro owns the rights to Transformers! before anyone bleats on about that! & YES I know there could be a possible Transformers/GI Joe movie.
That was back when Marvel Comics had the publishing rights. Now they belong to IDW. Plus, Paramount owns the Transformers films, and Disney owns the Marvel films. Too many deals to be made, money to be split, and if their turn on Power Rangers showed anything, it's that Disney doesn't like to share profits. And as Burn said, the MCU is planned out through 2019, and that's just the projects we know about. It ain't happening.
Nope, it was more recent than that, and it was terrible.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 27th, 2015 @ 7:25pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 27th, 2015 @ 9:10pm CDT
That Bot wrote:I stand corrected. Still no chance of a Marvel/Transformers film happening, though.
World breathes sigh of relief
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:25pm CDT
Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:35pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Christ! what are you doing up at this time of the morning? could you not sleep either?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:38pm CDT
Erm, it's 11:38pm at night, here.Stuartmaximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Christ! what are you doing up at this time of the morning? could you not sleep either?
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:49pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Erm, it's 11:38pm at night, here.Stuartmaximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Christ! what are you doing up at this time of the morning? could you not sleep either?
Ah right, sorry, it's this website, it shows your last post there at 3:38am.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 29th, 2015 @ 12:20am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Erm, it's 11:38pm at night, here.Stuartmaximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Christ! what are you doing up at this time of the morning? could you not sleep either?
Ah right, sorry, it's this website, it shows your last post there at 3:38am.
It is a bit difficult to get used to different fans in different times no? Here it's 1:20am
Posted by King Kuuga on August 29th, 2015 @ 11:22am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 29th, 2015 @ 6:05pm CDT
Besides: still think they could pull of a fairly decent beast wars movie with the right crew.
Posted by Zeedust on August 31st, 2015 @ 9:34pm CDT
Cmdr. Trailblazer wrote: to the extent that the movies will go stale
Your mileage may vary as to whether or not this has already happened. AoE made me die a little inside.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 6th, 2015 @ 9:06am CDT
Posted by JazZeke on September 6th, 2015 @ 11:54am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:I know tf 5 isn't out til 2017 & this expanded universe probably won't start til around or after then but.....since the last piece of news that we did hear....it's been all quiet on the western front since then! Granted I don't expect them to dripfeed us info on a daily basis....but you'd at least expect SOMETHING new! rather than this prolonged period of silence.
Meh. I'm in no rush to see my favorite franchise shat upon even more.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 6th, 2015 @ 12:52pm CDT
Bay's next movie hits theaters in October, so when they're doing interviews and stuff for that, TF5 will probably be brought up. I'm guessing they're doing all the prep for it now, and it will start shooting next spring.Stuartmaximus wrote:I know tf 5 isn't out til 2017 & this expanded universe probably won't start til around or after then but.....since the last piece of news that we did hear....it's been all quiet on the western front since then! Granted I don't expect them to dripfeed us info on a daily basis....but you'd at least expect SOMETHING new! rather than this prolonged period of silence.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on September 17th, 2015 @ 2:52pm CDT
Also I think they should put Triplechangers and Headmasters in the movies. I would love to see Blitzwing, Springer, Brainstorm, and Chromedome get featured in the movies.
I'm also kinda hoping someone else will help write, if not direct the next Transformers movies. I want the new characters to not just be background characters, and only in it for two scenes, till they die.
Posted by SlyTF1 on September 17th, 2015 @ 4:35pm CDT
http://deadline.com/2015/09/transformer ... 201531918/
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 17th, 2015 @ 7:40pm CDT
Wonder how well the prequel film will come out.
Posted by JazZeke on September 17th, 2015 @ 8:25pm CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on September 17th, 2015 @ 10:08pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Well at least we know who's writing the fifth tf movie, though the article I read also included the rumour about prime fighting unicorn.
Wonder how well the prequel film will come out.
It'll be perfect. A Transformers movie with absolutely no humans. It's a dream come true. As long as Optimus is still the main character, anyway. I hope so.
Posted by Va'al on September 18th, 2015 @ 1:50am CDT
According to Deadline, Akiva Goldsman has now a project to pitch for both the sequel and the Cybertron-based prequel from the writers' room, seemingly with Mark Wahlberg confirmed in some role, but not confirmation of Michael Bay directing yet. Read more here and a snippet below!
EXCLUSIVE: It’s pencils down for the Transformers Writers Room; the experiment has concluded and the early results are in. Akiva Goldsman has walked away with a concrete blueprint to write a Transformers sequel for Mark Wahlberg to star in for Michael Bay to direct, with production starting in June. Ant-Man scribes Andrew Barrer & Gabriel Ferrari will head off and write an animated feature, an origin story that focuses on Cybertron, the planet from which the good and bad Transformer robots hail.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 18th, 2015 @ 1:55am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 18th, 2015 @ 2:14am CDT
I mean at this point paramount are walking up to bay with a big blank cheque with a sure smile on their faces given the movies past box office takings
I'm going to hesitantly agree with you sly, a lot of people have been asking for a humanless tf movie, let's see if they'll regret it after wards.
Posted by Va'al on September 18th, 2015 @ 2:19am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Well at least we know who's writing the fifth tf movie, though the article I read also included the rumour about prime fighting unicorn.
That one was, for now, debunked. Mark Ryan knew not what he was saying.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 18th, 2015 @ 2:29am CDT
Posted by guarayakha on September 18th, 2015 @ 3:39am CDT
Va'al wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Well at least we know who's writing the fifth tf movie, though the article I read also included the rumour about prime fighting unicorn.
That one was, for now, debunked. Mark Ryan knew not what he was saying.
You know not what you're saying! Prime fighting Unicron is probably 'meh' at best, but Prime fighting a Unicorn? That is going to be awesome beyond words!
Posted by BumbleDouche on September 18th, 2015 @ 4:01am CDT
Then rely on the subsequent negative press and Bay-bashing, which inadvertently promotes for them the very crap they're producing.
I wish they'd just euthanise this poorly-executed junk and start again... But considering the obscene amounts of money they're making, I consider that highly unlikely.