Takara Masterpiece Display at ACG Hong Kong 2018 with Prowl, Shockwave, Shadow Panther, Cordon #ACGHK2018

Shadow Pahnter feels like he came form an unaired episode of Beast Wars.I could see they doing a episode of a Predacon Cheetor.

Shockwave looks so good in these colors!

Small error in the transcript that should look like this:

Ryan (interviewer) – Speaking of Masterpiece, Entertainment Earth is releasing Beast Wars Megatron – is that coming from you guys or not?

Pretty sure we all know it's coming from Takara Tomy, that wasn't the question.

Emerje

The Shockwave we’ve always wanted, I’m so looking forward to seeing his box! His upside down stand is making me lol out loud right now though must have been displayed by a Hasbro employee

MP-10A pricing, can anyone give me an idea what these are actually worth? The prices online are a bit nuts.

pastagician wrote:MP-10A pricing, can anyone give me an idea what these are actually worth? The prices online are a bit nuts.

The lowest they ever went on the secondary market (which was the main way to get it outside the initial market) was around the 500$ mark. Its only gone up since

pastagician wrote:MP-10A pricing, can anyone give me an idea what these are actually worth? The prices online are a bit nuts.

Mandarake sells opened ones with slight box damage like yours occasionally for 80,000 JPY, about $721, but for a seller outside of Japan you might be able to ask $800. Definitely wont sell one for $4,000+ like people are asking on eBay.

Emerje

As an aside, I received an invoice today. Due for release August 24th, MP 34S Shadow Panther came in at a very reasonable £68. At less than half the price of Dinobot and a fraction of the cost of Megatron, it was quite refreshing

shajaki wrote:

Not I. I've already pre-Ordered BW Megs, the biggest and likely most expensive of that line. Other than MP Galvatron, I have no interest in the MP Collection outside of Beast Wars.

That said, If HasTak seemingly want to price the majority G1 Collectors out of the market, on their heads be it.

By "line" do you mean MP BW? Cause 44 is already the new reigning champ of costly (non-exclusive) MP's.

If MP-44's "Stupidly overengineered design, dumbed-down looks" becomes a trend this line can die.

I'm out. I cancelled my BW Megs pre order, and I've passed on the new Prime pre orders. Putting Dinobot on eBay this weekend.

I'm not happy about it, but Takara is just being greedy. That's their right, of course, but it's lost them a customer, and probably gained the KO market a new one.


I'm waiting to see the price on Hound. If it's the same as Sunstreaker, I'll pay it, but if it's more, than he is a pass as well.

I am out for G1 molds (already was) but will keep supporting BW MPs. And Ironhidensh, if the KO sunstreaker is anything to go by, the KO altrernative might be very poor. So it would be an all or nothing (as in we experience the real thing or we dont experience the mold at all).

william-james88 wrote:I am out for G1 molds (already was) but will keep supporting BW MPs. And Ironhidensh, if the KO sunstreaker is anything to go by, the KO altrernative might be very poor. So it would be an all or nothing (as in we experience the real thing or we dont experience the mold at all).

Yeah, KO's can be hit or miss. The MPM Prime KO was vastly superiour to the official, but the MPM Barricade (which I bought by accident) was good, but not as good. I've heard nothing but praise for the Megatron 36 KO's, but I honestly never paid any attention to the Sunstreaker one. I know the Datsun KO is of equal quality, but the Sideswipe/redalert was lacking.

All I know is that anything over 250, really 230 bucks is simply a ripoff, no matter how good looking or desired, or official a mold is. The pricing for BW Megtatron and Prime 44 makes me want to never buy a Takara product again. If it wasn't for my kids liking Transformers, Hasbro would have priced me out of the main line purchases a couple of years ago. As it is, I try and wait for sales and discounts.

Unless they finally do Trailbreaker or Brainstorm or another Targetmaster repaint (hopefully Stepper soon) I am out minus the MPMs. MP BW Megatron will be the last of the Beast MPs for me, and I have my Sideswipe, Shattered Prime, Targetmaster Hot Rodimus (still sad about that one), and Sideswipe. So I have most of the guys I care for.

For anyone's interested --



BBTS Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet (DEFECTIVE SHOULDERS) for $40 (marked down from $180.)

Product Description

This listing is for the version that was manufactured improperly and has incorrectly installed parts that prevent proper transformation. This item is sold AS IS and is not eligible to be returned. All sales are final.

Shoulder fix tutorial by The Chosen Prime:





Looks like a good deal, but I've got a feeling Takara will redo Starscream & the jets, so..

Cyberpath wrote:For anyone's interested --
BBTS Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet (DEFECTIVE SHOULDERS) for $40 (marked down from $180.)

Product Description
This listing is for the version that was manufactured improperly and has incorrectly installed parts that prevent proper transformation. This item is sold AS IS and is not eligible to be returned. All sales are final.

Shoulder fix tutorial by The Chosen Prime:

Looks like a good deal, but I've got a feeling Takara will redo Starscream & the jets, so..

Why, Cyberpath?! Why you post the deal so now I can't buy it with Christmas money in a week as it will probably be sold out?! WHY CYBERPATH?!

Shit, that is pretty damn tempting.

Ironhidensh wrote:****, that is pretty damn tempting.

See, Cyberpath?! Now 'densh is gonna get one!! Which is ok, he's a good dude.

Well fudge CP, I just talked myself out of broke ass MP Ramjet yesterday. Well I guess this is a good problem to have

itscramtastic wrote:Why, Cyberpath?! Why you post the deal so now I can't buy it with Christmas money in a week as it will probably be sold out?! WHY CYBERPATH?!

Better to have known and lost than never to have known at all..?

The price is tempting, and the defect doesn't bother me.. buuut the figure looks clunky. Especially with that nosecone between his legs.



Itscramtastic, just wait for Takara to redo the jets with less kibble and more articulation (and more money )

Ironhidensh wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I am out for G1 molds (already was) but will keep supporting BW MPs. And Ironhidensh, if the KO sunstreaker is anything to go by, the KO altrernative might be very poor. So it would be an all or nothing (as in we experience the real thing or we dont experience the mold at all).

Yeah, KO's can be hit or miss. The MPM Prime KO was vastly superiour to the official, but the MPM Barricade (which I bought by accident) was good, but not as good. I've heard nothing but praise for the Megatron 36 KO's, but I honestly never paid any attention to the Sunstreaker one. I know the Datsun KO is of equal quality, but the Sideswipe/redalert was lacking.

Yes they are. My MP Sideswipe is a pretty good KO, but the panels don't line up very well in alt-mode, but outside of that he's damn good and compares very well to the real deal. Oh his legs came assembled on the wrong side, but was an easy fix. Cobo got a pretty bad copy of his Sideswipe though and I've seen stories all over the place when it comes to QC. Same with Sunstreaker. I also have a "KO MP Tracks" that cannot be distinguished from the real deal, oddly suspiciously so. Do your research first.

I just got the a MP Ultra Magnus KO and overall it's very good. It's by Toy House Factory which also does the reportedly good Megatrons. UM does have a few sloppy paint apps here and there, but he also has improvements from the original.

So basically YMMV and do your research.

Cyberpath wrote:tempting, and the defect doesn't bother me.. buuut the figure looks clunky. Especially with that nosecone between his legs.

No one expects a double conehead.

Itscramtastic, just wait for Takara to redo the jets with less kibble and more articulation (and more money )

I don't even want to begin to speculate on the price of a new seeker mold

Cyberpath wrote:Better to have known and lost than never to have known at all..?

No. That's the worst. [quote="Cyberpath"]itscramtastic, just wait for Takara to redo the jets with less kibble and more articulation (and more money ) I really don't neeeeeeeeed them, I'd be happy with Ramjet and Thrust as I have the G1's and Ramjet was hangin' with Starscream and Astrotrain (and Thrust) before Galvatron vaporized him.

carytheone wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:tempting, and the defect doesn't bother me.. buuut the figure looks clunky. Especially with that nosecone between his legs.

No one expects a double conehead.

Yeah, very sloppy looking. Almost as if they wanted to get the most use out of the jets mold before they retired it and made a new one..

carytheone wrote:

Itscramtastic, just wait for Takara to redo the jets with less kibble and more articulation (and more money )

I don't even want to begin to speculate on the price of a new seeker mold

Start saving now.

Cyberpath wrote:Start saving now.

Oh I will... for the inevitable KOs

I kid, I kid - well sorta. I've been priced out of the MP game, but that's OK.

carytheone wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Start saving now.

Oh I will... for the inevitable KOs

I kid, I kid - well sorta. I've been priced out of the MP game, but that's OK.

I have to say I'm pleased that they slowed down the pace again. My top 5 figures for 2016 were all Masterpieces(!) -- and 4/5 for 2017. That's kind of crazy, glad 2018 had none. (Waiting for August 2019 for the next one though.. )

Cyberpath wrote:I have to say I'm pleased that they slowed down the pace again. My top 5 figures for 2016 were all Masterpieces(!) -- and 4/5 for 2017. That's kind of crazy, glad 2018 had none. (Waiting for August 2019 for the next one though.. )

I'm with you on that, I could definitely go for less things to want.

If only that defect had happened to Dirge, then I would totally jump no question

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:If only that defect had happened to Dirge, then I would totally jump no question

I bought Dirge on the Black Friday sale for $99.


I still feel like I overpaid.....

Who here would like to see them do Masterpiece Unicron Trilogy figures?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Who here would like to see them do Masterpiece Unicron Trilogy figures?

Only for those whose original toys don't cut the muster. Like, almost every Armada figure besides Unicron, Tidal Wave, etc.

Or all of the early wave Autobot toys from Energon.

But most of the Cybertron toys are good enough to still be satisfactory, and were already pretty darn show-accurate from the get go due to their CG models being so toy-accurate.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Who here would like to see them do Masterpiece Unicron Trilogy figures?

Only for those whose original toys don't cut the muster. Like, almost every Armada figure besides Unicron, Tidal Wave, etc.

Or all of the early wave Autobot toys from Energon.

But most of the Cybertron toys are good enough to still be satisfactory, and were already pretty darn show-accurate from the get go due to their CG models being so toy-accurate.

Hey, I think even the Armada toys are still good as playthings despite their faults.

As for the Cybertron toys.. Yeah, most of them are still satisfactory (although shortcomings on some of them stick out more today than thy did before). But some of them got it it in the shorts (Leobreaker and Starscream come to mind).
Aside from that there's a difference between being satisfactory and chasing - to a reasonable degree - perfection.

In any case, Unicron Trilogy MPs - especially Cybertron ones - would be spared the overengineering of MP-44 and the Beast Wars MPs.

Yeah, I'd rather see Armada toys all redone in Generations style more than anything with their Mini-cons like Hot Shot or the jets (sure would like them all done again as Voyagers).

Emerje

For the price, I considered getting a second Rammy. But honestly he's my least favorite of the MP Coneheads. If it were either of the other two though

MP Unicron Trilogy? I'm down. I don't think there's much I wouldn't be down for in the MP line though

And sorry folks, I posed that "in or out" question a week ago and didn't weigh in myself
I'm still in. Part of me feels like I'm in too deep, I was feeling kinda meh or burnt out while I went all hardcore gamer in recent months. But now that I've taken a break from my Switch, I started picking my toys back up (slowly, but I feel I'm still interested). I opened my Plus Shockwave the other day, and I melted. It's insane what feels it gave me just over the simple pallet swap of Lavenderwave. Then I got my shipping notice for Plus Megatron and I got tingles. So I guess I'm saying that my heart is still in it.

As for the price hike, it's hard. While everything is on the rise, not every figure is going to be 44. And if they limit the 44 type to one a year (or less frequent than that) then I should still be able to manage.

I don't feel like I've necessarily been priced out. I've become so picky choosy with MPs lately, and found my peace in playing the waiting game for toy accurate releases, that even with a price hike, I could still fit one or two MPs in my yearly toy budget. I have no intentions of acquiring 44, so it's really a non-issue for me.

@ Jak -
1. did you order your 36+ direct from Japan? I'm chomping at the bit to get that evil bastard in my hands, but chose the domestic route.
2. Isn't the rejuvenating power of taking a break from bots awesome? Take a mental step away for a minute, and it all seems fresh again.
It's like taking a soak in a Goron hot spring, emaright?

Cobotron wrote:1. did you order your 36+ direct from Japan? I'm chomping at the bit to get that evil bastard in my hands, but chose the domestic route.

I ordered through A3U.ca after a chat. They said they wouldn't arrive plugged, and they themselves weren't plugging. So mine should arrive without any unsightly orangeness

Cobotron wrote:2. Isn't the rejuvenating power of taking a break from bots awesome? Take a mental step away for a minute, and it all seems fresh again.

It was. It was a strange journey too. It wasn't anything I set out to do... I wasn't planning to take a toy break, or even buy a Switch (because I basically got it for free). But I wound up with one, fell in love and dove hard ignoring everything around me. I'm not sure if it was just a really good distraction, or if I was in the midst of toy fatigue, but the break did me some good it seems. I guess it helps having more than one interest

Cobotron wrote:It's like taking a soak in a Goron hot spring, emaright?

Cyberpath wrote:BBTS Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet (DEFECTIVE SHOULDERS) for $40 (marked down from $180.)

Product Description

This listing is for the version that was manufactured improperly and has incorrectly installed parts that prevent proper transformation. This item is sold AS IS and is not eligible to be returned. All sales are final.

Sold out. ⠀Anyone got one?

I did, which pin punching tool would people recomend?

Came across this MP-27 Ironhide custom, and reliased Takara still hasn't reused the mold since MP-30 Ratchet. Just a random observation.




Will, ask the guy from the tutorial what he used in the video.

That's a nice looking Shattered Glass Ironhide.

My first thought was Diaclone, that seems like easy and logical redecos. The initial realease would be MP-27D then the more expensive toy accurate MP-27D+ missing the head.

carytheone wrote:My first thought was Diaclone,

Correct. That is the black Diaclone deco, but which SG applied to its own Ironhide, making it double for both concepts.

I would love it if the next MP was a comic accurate G2 Megatron (with Cobra Commander), or a show accurate Fire Convoy. Will Takara ever make a MP gestalt?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Personally, I would love it if the next MP was a comic accurate G2 Megatron...

Comic accurate would be cool, especially if they went all GI Joe v TFs on the decos. People would loose their shit. But seriously, that would be cool.

Will Tamara ever attempt a MP gestalt?

Sure, but they will come with their own escrow accounts.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Will Takara ever make a MP gestalt?

UW Devastator was based on a MP concept for the guy, and is practically as close to one that we can get for now.

Didn't Takara explicitly state that they won't be making MP combiners?

shajaki wrote:Didn't Takara explicitly state that they won't be making MP combiners?

I am remembering this. There are no combiners in the MP future at this time

Okay, I was just wondering. I do have Devy and he's a very good figure. It would be great to get some of the other gestalts that are in scale.

A decade ago, I got the TrU exclusive MP Grimlock as a Christmas present. He came in T-Rex mode, and I transformed him and placed him on my Grimlock shelf. Other than dusting it and changing his pose, I didn't touch it since. Today I transformed him back into T-Rex mode for the first time. Surprisingly, all the joints are still tight, the transformation is easier than I remembered, and his lights still work. And now PoTP Grimlock can hold his gun and sword.

http://news.tfw2005.com/2019/01/12/rumor-movie-masterpiece-mpm-08-megatron-and-mpm-09-jazz-to-be-revealed-in-china-380765?fbclid=IwAR0b-0TOmSaJXpl_XmEvgCCvG4DXYDTRXeUmrYtglj8a7nC-zYnLBFeppR0

Masterpiece 2007 Movie Megatron? HECK TO THE YES THIS BETTER BE TRUE!! (do take it with a grain of salt first, we need to wait for official reports to confirm this ya)