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Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia

Transformers News: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia

Thursday, May 28th, 2015 11:11AM CDT

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From the Facebook group Talk Transformers, and translator and user Kelvin Chan/Goktimus Prime, we have confirmation that the Takara Tomy Unite Warriors Superion box set, including all five Aerialbots in the Takara deco (and white hands and feet), will also be released at Australian retail, with English box and instruction sheets! Check out the images of the translations and the original Japanese, plus further details below.

I can now reveal that Hasbro will be releasing TakaraTOMY's Unite Warriors Superion set here. I don't know what the price will be, but I've been told that this will be out at Toys R Us in July. This is another set of instructions which I've translated for Hasbro


Transformers News: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia

Transformers News: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia


Contents page. The name of Silverbolt's shield is based on a name nominated and voted on by Australian Transformers fans.


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The Japanese version shows the function and name of each Aerialbot in Japanese, with just their name written in English in smaller subtitles below the line. For Hasbro's version, I've translated the functions and names to English, and included their mottos in English, Latin and Japanese.
Credit(s): Kelvin Chan

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691581)
Posted by Hero Alpha on May 28th, 2015 @ 11:27am CDT
Thats good news for Australians. Sure that will make a lot of people really happy. Plus the box and instructions will be in English.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691588)
Posted by shajaki on May 28th, 2015 @ 11:39am CDT
Moonshot wrote:Thats good news for Australians. Sure that will make a lot of people really happy. Plus the box and instructions will be in English.
Mmmmm... maybe not. Shelf prices are pretty high in Australia :(
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691589)
Posted by Rated X on May 28th, 2015 @ 11:39am CDT
Now burn can sleep happy knowing he no longer needs alpha bravo. :lol:

Its interesting Australia sells takara products in retail stores side by side with hasbro products. That kind of flushes the whole "for the Japanese market" excuse down the toilet. :-?
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691601)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 28th, 2015 @ 12:16pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Its interesting Australia sells takara products in retail stores side by side with hasbro products. That kind of flushes the whole "for the Japanese market" excuse down the toilet. :-?


They've been doing that for years, you know? :lol:

Australia has done a few special, normally TakaraTomy-only, releases, like Masterpiece MP-2 Ultra Magnus, Jetwing Optimus Prime, Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus, Masterpiece MP-24 Star Saber (with the bio of the IDW character) and now Unite Warriors Superion. Consider them "off the record", or in other words "don't apply to official statements".
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691604)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2015 @ 12:19pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Now burn can sleep happy knowing he no longer needs alpha bravo. :lol:

Its interesting Australia sells takara products in retail stores side by side with hasbro products. That kind of flushes the whole "for the Japanese market" excuse down the toilet. :-?


I feel the talk of exclusivity is pointless if we ignore price. In this day and age with the internet nothing is truly exclusive depending on one's definition but the golden rule remains the same: exclusivity means there is one direct source/outlet for the lowest price.

Which is why that cheap Defensor/Guardian mystifies me beyond belief.

You would think that all the mysteries would be solved once Takara released pictures of their Guardian but instead I have even more questions.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691630)
Posted by Autobot N on May 28th, 2015 @ 1:23pm CDT
And I thought I would never see the day when Rated X isn't complaining about something.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691657)
Posted by shockblast2 on May 28th, 2015 @ 2:39pm CDT
This is the lame one with the dead robot. Who wants a robo-zombie for an arm?


And how many TF fans are there really in AU? Like ten?
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691665)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 28th, 2015 @ 2:49pm CDT
shockblast2 wrote:This is the lame one with the dead robot. Who wants a robo-zombie for an arm?


Maybe fans who mainly know the franchise from the G1 cartoon and/or toy line? Who don't see Slingshot as dead? Yes, I acknowledge he died in the comics. Comics I don't read. To me, Slingshot is still alive.

I get the Arialbots I want. You get the Arialbots you want. Some people get all the Arialbots and get to go, "Woo hoo! More toys for me! Yay!" Why is this even still an issue, aside from people who want to intentionally troll the issue...

Oh, wait. Never mind. Guess I just answered my own question.

shockblast2 wrote:And how many TF fans are there really in AU? Like ten?


Wow... Condescend much?
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691668)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:01pm CDT
shockblast2 wrote:This is the lame one with the dead robot. Who wants a robo-zombie for an arm?


Or a leg? I wouldn't mind having one. My father has had polio so his leg's in a brace, plus he works for an airline company. :)

And how many TF fans are there really in AU? Like ten?


More than enough to warrant this release, and the ones before. :lol:
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691669)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:09pm CDT
shockblast2 wrote:This is the lame one with the dead robot. Who wants a robo-zombie for an arm?


And how many TF fans are there really in AU? Like ten?


What if I just want to recreate a scene from G1, you know, when Slingshot was alive? I wonder what Rated X would have to say about seeing G1 as dead and that there is no need for a Slingshot combiner Wars figure. :-?


I wish I could say it was nice to have you back Shockblast 2, but that would be a lie.

I guess our vacation is over people. >:oP
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691670)
Posted by Burn on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:17pm CDT
For those who haven't kept up on the news (you know ... every time Gok translates and announces the next TT figure to be released in Australia, TakaraTomy's products only see release via TRU. The translated instructions started this year.

When I was at TRU the other day they already had Star Sabre in stock, but in the past I've seen Wheeljack, Bumblebee, and Ultra Magnus. It's still cheaper to import from HLJ directly.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691671)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:17pm CDT
Unite Warriors isn't the same continuity as IDW's comics. So Slingshot's not dead in Unite Warriors.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691680)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:35pm CDT
Burn wrote:For those who haven't kept up on the news (you know ... every time Gok translates and announces the next TT figure to be released in Australia, TakaraTomy's products only see release via TRU. The translated instructions started this year.

When I was at TRU the other day they already had Star Sabre in stock, but in the past I've seen Wheeljack, Bumblebee, and Ultra Magnus. It's still cheaper to import from HLJ directly.
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WOW you guys still have some Beast Hunters figures including what appears to be the target exclusive Abominus... at toysrus.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691688)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:44pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Unite Warriors isn't the same continuity as IDW's comics. So Slingshot's not dead in Unite Warriors.


But Sabr, that makes sense. How are you going to win an argument with facts and rational thought?
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691691)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:46pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Unite Warriors isn't the same continuity as IDW's comics. So Slingshot's not dead in Unite Warriors.


But Sabr, that makes sense. How are you going to win an argument with facts and rational thought?


:lol: I always liked Wolfman Jake, this guy is going places.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691699)
Posted by Burn on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:54pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Unite Warriors isn't the same continuity as IDW's comics. So Slingshot's not dead in Unite Warriors.


But Sabr, that makes sense. How are you going to win an argument with facts and rational thought?


:lol: I always liked Wolfman Jake, this guy is going places.


He'll have your job soon if you don't lift your game. :wink:
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691700)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:57pm CDT
Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Unite Warriors isn't the same continuity as IDW's comics. So Slingshot's not dead in Unite Warriors.


But Sabr, that makes sense. How are you going to win an argument with facts and rational thought?


:lol: I always liked Wolfman Jake, this guy is going places.


He'll have your job soon if you don't lift your game. :wink:


I was gonna use the Darth Vader NOOOOOO clip but I realize I used it at least 2 times before so that might look like spamming and that would be just as bad. Oh no, what do to, please let me keep my job. I will put Stalker in an upcoming list.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691702)
Posted by prjkt on May 28th, 2015 @ 3:59pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Burn wrote:For those who haven't kept up on the news (you know ... every time Gok translates and announces the next TT figure to be released in Australia, TakaraTomy's products only see release via TRU. The translated instructions started this year.

When I was at TRU the other day they already had Star Sabre in stock, but in the past I've seen Wheeljack, Bumblebee, and Ultra Magnus. It's still cheaper to import from HLJ directly.
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WOW you guys still have some Beast Hunters figures including what appears to be the target exclusive Abominus... at toysrus.

Most "excusive" releases like that end up at Toys R Us or Myer, rather than big box retailers. Remember Over here, Toys R Us, Target, even Hasbro are completely different entities than over in NA, as any agreements over there have nothing whatsoever to do with us here. I believe Hasbro AU is a division of Hasbro Asia, so anything Hasbro sells in Asia, like the Takara releases, can end up on shelves here. Just too bad the nearest TRU is 45min away...
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691704)
Posted by Burn on May 28th, 2015 @ 4:02pm CDT
prjkt wrote:Just too bad the nearest TRU is 45min away...

60 mins here ... on the highway.

What's too bad is TRU's prices!
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691707)
Posted by prjkt on May 28th, 2015 @ 4:10pm CDT
Burn wrote:
prjkt wrote:Just too bad the nearest TRU is 45min away...

60 mins here ... on the highway.

What's too bad is TRU's prices!

Can't be worse than Myer, $299 for YOTG OP
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691716)
Posted by Burn on May 28th, 2015 @ 4:31pm CDT
prjkt wrote:Can't be worse than Myer, $299 for YOTG OP

Yeah but who really shops at Myer?

Last time I stepped in there was to look for CW given that there had been sightings of them in every other Myer around the country. They barely had half a dozen TF's.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691736)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 28th, 2015 @ 5:06pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Now burn can sleep happy knowing he no longer needs alpha bravo. :lol:

Its interesting Australia sells takara products in retail stores side by side with hasbro products. That kind of flushes the whole "for the Japanese market" excuse down the toilet. :-?



No it doesn't.

Different markets. And as Burn and the other Aussies stated, waaaaaaaaaay more expensive than importing. Read JZGRs post about the other REAL WORLD factors that comes packaged in a CAPITALIST economic system.

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691748)
Posted by King Kuuga on May 28th, 2015 @ 5:28pm CDT
shockblast2 wrote:This is the lame one with the dead robot. Who wants a robo-zombie for an arm?


And how many TF fans are there really in AU? Like ten?

Am I the only one who read this comment as extremely sarcastic? Really?
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691753)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 28th, 2015 @ 5:39pm CDT
That Bot wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:This is the lame one with the dead robot. Who wants a robo-zombie for an arm?


And how many TF fans are there really in AU? Like ten?

Am I the only one who read this comment as extremely sarcastic? Really?


I read the first part as extremely insensitive, myself. But I took it in stride, as you may have seen :)
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691759)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 28th, 2015 @ 5:51pm CDT
That Bot wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:This is the lame one with the dead robot. Who wants a robo-zombie for an arm?


And how many TF fans are there really in AU? Like ten?

Am I the only one who read this comment as extremely sarcastic? Really?


Sarcasm? No. Misattribution coupled with hyperbole? Most likely. I suspect more familiarity with shockblast2's unique views on Transformers fandom will make this distinction a lot more clear for you.

I find this news rather interesting, especially because this set is NOT just a case of Australia directly importing Takara's goods, but a specially modified release complete with English packaging and instructions. Honestly, I would not be surprised if this set eventually turn ups in some other outlets around the globe. Gift sets like these are popular gifts for parents who don't want to track down each individual figure for their child's wish list.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691762)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 28th, 2015 @ 5:57pm CDT
Can we get the guy who translates the instructions to translate Takara's statement about Groove?
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691766)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 28th, 2015 @ 6:19pm CDT
Another interesting note on this English packaging released by Takara: Slingshot is translated as "Quickslinger." That's Hasbro's latest name that's trademarkable (Slingshot is not), but it's also not Takara's name for the same character, "Sling." That's some interesting new synergy between Takara and Hasbro, though I guess recent reveals like Sharpnel vs. Shrapnel in the Transformers Adventure line is a very similar case. Or maybe the person laying out the English instructions just pulled the first English name he could find for the figure without giving it much thought. Still, it's interesting.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691768)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2015 @ 6:22pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Another interesting note on this English packaging released by Takara: Slingshot is translated as "Quickslinger." That's Hasbro's latest name that's trademarkable (Slingshot is not), but it's also not Takara's name for the same character, "Sling." That's some interesting new synergy between Takara and Hasbro, though I guess recent reveals like Sharpnel vs. Shrapnel in the Transformers Adventure line is a very similar case. Or maybe the person laying out the English instructions just pulled the first English name he could find for the figure without giving it much thought. Still, it's interesting.


Yeah, I am thinking its the translator's intention to use the hasbro name since that would be what english buyers would be familiar with and looking for. But more because they are seeking uniformity and not because they are necessarily lazy. It is quite interesting,
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691771)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 28th, 2015 @ 6:29pm CDT
Well, I wasn't trying to imply laziness on the translator's work so much as posit that it could be a very non-exciting coincidence.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691772)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2015 @ 6:31pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, I wasn't trying to imply laziness on the translator's work so much as posit that it could be a very non-exciting coincidence.


Oh I see, sorry I didnt mean to put words in your mouth.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691773)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 28th, 2015 @ 6:35pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, I wasn't trying to imply laziness on the translator's work so much as posit that it could be a very non-exciting coincidence.


Oh I see, sorry I didnt mean to put words in your mouth.


No offense taken. :)
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691783)
Posted by Burn on May 28th, 2015 @ 7:09pm CDT
via Ozformers, GoktimusPrime wrote:They didn't tell me one way or the other, but I try to use the same trademarks as Hasbro just to play it on the safe side.

Original link
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1691786)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 28th, 2015 @ 7:13pm CDT
Burn wrote:
via Ozformers, GoktimusPrime wrote:They didn't tell me one way or the other, but I try to use the same trademarks as Hasbro just to play it on the safe side.

Original link


Mystery solved! Good work, Mike Tyson Mystery Team!
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693833)
Posted by Cyberpath on June 3rd, 2015 @ 6:26am CDT
From Yuki:

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693836)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on June 3rd, 2015 @ 6:32am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:From Yuki:

(new pics)


Can't wait to see that Groove in color!

I like that, unless it is just a trick of the light, Slingshot's eyes are actually a slightly different shade of orange.

Overall, a slightly odd selection of pics, though... If not for the inclusion of Drag Strip, I'd think they were just pics of, "Here are the guys Hasbro left out!" But Drag Strip kind of throws that theme out of the window...
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693857)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 8:29am CDT
Cyberpath has sent our way some pictures from TF Yuki's twitter featuring Unite Warriors Dragstrip, Slingshot, Wildrider and Groove (who is still unfinished). Enjoy !

Cyberpath wrote:From Yuki:

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693863)
Posted by RhA on June 3rd, 2015 @ 8:55am CDT
Groove looks Groovy. The rest is okay.
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Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 8:56am CDT
RhA wrote:Groove looks Groovy. The rest is okay.


Even Dragstrip? Groove has more paint apps than him.
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Posted by RhA on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:05am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
RhA wrote:Groove looks Groovy. The rest is okay.


Even Dragstrip? Groove has more paint apps than him.

:lol: Dragstrip! You lose!
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693880)
Posted by shajaki on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:27am CDT
Wow.. Dragstrip sure is.. yellow. Which is hard to complain about since its accurate. But damn..

Groove however makes me happy in ways I'd rather not describe.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693883)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:31am CDT
shajaki wrote:Wow.. Dragstrip sure is.. yellow. Which is hard to complain about since its accurate. But damn..

Groove however makes me happy in ways I'd rather not describe.


And for those same reasons, his heavier price tag makes me sad :(

Also, while the headsculpt is awesome, I am surprised Takara didnt go screen accurate with his eyes:

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693886)
Posted by Rated X on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:36am CDT
I love drag strip. Weather your a G1 cartoon or vintage toy guy, he never had all that purple on him. Good ridance to it. I love all these more cartoon accurate takara versions. I plan to display these takara versions as teams with Renderforms awesome guns. The hasbro versions will be combined with perfect effect add ons. I already have a shoe box for all the goofy toe knuckle fists and corny tailpipe clubs I wont be using. And I already know at some point groove will be made available individually for Hasbro sets, be it an exclusive or a KO, ill buy it.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693897)
Posted by megatronus on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:51am CDT
I wasn't sure about Dragstrip before, but I do think he looks good. A couple smaller details or washes wouldn't have hurt, but as it is, I'm happy.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693903)
Posted by Evil Eye on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:12am CDT
Yeesh, that Drag Strip is eye-searing. I'm keeping my Hasbro Drag Strip thank you very much.

Groove looks good but I prefer Rook in his place with Groove as a chestplate. I'd totally be down for the mold as Afterburner though.

Wildrider and Slingshot I don't care about. I don't mind the use of retools at all but I don't really want to have 2 of the same mold in a combiner. I hope the inevitable Alpha Bravo into Vortex retool has some serious bodywork done to make him less obviously a grey Alpha Bravo.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693904)
Posted by Shockwave7 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:16am CDT
I totally understand G1 'purism'. But to me, it never has, and still doesn't make sense to have a motorcycle that seems to be as massive as a car or a truck. I know most people just say 'mass-forming', but that's the lazy way out - akin to Xena saying 'a wizard did it'.

'But what about the...'
'Wizard!'
'But in this scene it very clearly...'
'WIZARD!!!'

Even in the Prime series, they had to make Arcee mass form a LOT to make her even close to the size of the other Autobots. If her robot mode remained true to the mass and size she had as a motorcycle, she'd have only been maybe seven or eight feet tall and a few hundred pounds, not the near-twenty feet and 2-3 tons they had her clomping around in on the show.

Groove would suffer similarly. Even the biggest, beefiest motorcycles on the roads today don't come anywhere near to being as massive as an Ambulance or a sports car. Sure, you can MAKE one that big, but a person riding around in such a king-sized motorcycle would look ridiculous, just as a grown man would look ridiculous trying to ride on a children's tricycle.

So I have no problem replacing Rook as Defensor's left leg with a vehicle that's more 'in scale'. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept a 2-wheeler vehicle designed to carry only 1-2 persons having enough mass and weight to compare with the others.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693909)
Posted by Hero Alpha on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:22am CDT
These look good but I greatly prefer my Hasbro Wildrider and Slingshot. The extra red on Wildrider helps set him apart from Deadend. I love how the Hasbro Stunticons look together combined and seperate. Like someone mentioned though those Renderfrom guns look pretty tight. The blue eye visor looks better on Slingshot, even if its not G1 cartoon accurate, and the gold on his knees. Slingshot is the only aerialbot I own or plan to buy as he is my fav and I have to think that mould was made for him first.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693912)
Posted by Hero Alpha on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:26am CDT
Shockwave7 wrote:I totally understand G1 'purism'. But to me, it never has, and still doesn't make sense to have a motorcycle that seems to be as massive as a car or a truck. I know most people just say 'mass-forming', but that's the lazy way out - akin to Xena saying 'a wizard did it'.

'But what about the...'
'Wizard!'
'But in this scene it very clearly...'
'WIZARD!!!'

Even in the Prime series, they had to make Arcee mass form a LOT to make her even close to the size of the other Autobots. If her robot mode remained true to the mass and size she had as a motorcycle, she'd have only been maybe seven or eight feet tall and a few hundred pounds, not the near-twenty feet and 2-3 tons they had her clomping around in on the show.

Groove would suffer similarly. Even the biggest, beefiest motorcycles on the roads today don't come anywhere near to being as massive as an Ambulance or a sports car. Sure, you can MAKE one that big, but a person riding around in such a king-sized motorcycle would look ridiculous, just as a grown man would look ridiculous trying to ride on a children's tricycle.

So I have no problem replacing Rook as Defensor's left leg with a vehicle that's more 'in scale'. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept a 2-wheeler vehicle designed to carry only 1-2 persons having enough mass and weight to compare with the others.


I have to agree I like Groove as legends size better. I am pretty much a G1 purist having been 6 and obsessed with Transformers in 84' and I like my minibots legends size and Groove will fit right in. Deluxe Groove does look great and I can justify him being that big of a bike in alt mode as like the junkions where another bot can ride him.
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693913)
Posted by Cyberpath on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:29am CDT
It's fantasy.

It's fun.

But if anyone still wants deluxe Groove for the "G1" accuracy but has issues with the scale of the vehicular-mode, they could use him as a Transformer's motorbike like the Junkions in TFTM. Could make for some cool poses of the other bots riding the motorcycle.

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693914)
Posted by guarayakha on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:29am CDT
Is it me, or does Groove looks like he's stomping in on Hasbro's HQ to get that guy who thought replacing him with Rook was a great idea? :lol:
Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Superion Box Set to be Released in Australia (1693915)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:31am CDT
Shockwave7 wrote:
So I have no problem replacing Rook as Defensor's left leg with a vehicle that's more 'in scale'. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept a 2-wheeler vehicle designed to carry only 1-2 persons having enough mass and weight to compare with the others.


I like your positivity with hasbro's approach. But Groove wouldn't be the only thing not in scale. A Helicopter is bigger than an ambulance which is bigger than a sports car, no?

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