Teaser Trailer for RID Season 2 and Season 4 Announcement

They might be skipping a season, but my guess is it's a typo

More RID, Im happy.

Chances are that season 4 refers to the upcoming rescue bots season or it's a mistype.



I doubt this is confirmation especially with prior news about rid ending after two seasons and a movie.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I doubt this is confirmation especially with prior news about rid ending after two seasons and a movie.

Link to said news? Having trouble finding it.

While I am all for this I am sticking to my guns and calling this a typo.

Any business professional would know better than to announce something like this on Twitter.

See this:

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=573CFD69

This screenshot from the latest trailer shown from the latest season 2 trailer shows that Grimock is fighting with a brand new Decepticon called Ransack. He is not to be confused with Ransack the Minicon. This is Ransack the Insecticon! He is in his robot mode. Please let me know if you found a picture of his alt-mode. Does he have a vehicle mode like Kickback, or does he turn into an insect for sure? I do believe that he will have a toy one day, as he had already been a toy numerous times from multiple generations since G1.

RevTibe wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I doubt this is confirmation especially with prior news about rid ending after two seasons and a movie.

Link to said news? Having trouble finding it.

There was no confirmation. It was TFW jumping the gun on declaring the end of "the kiddie garbage show that they everyone hates".

Sabrblade wrote:

RevTibe wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I doubt this is confirmation especially with prior news about rid ending after two seasons and a movie.

Link to said news? Having trouble finding it.

There was no confirmation. It was TFW jumping the gun on declaring the end of "the kiddie garbage show that they everyone hates".

Classic Transformers fandom.

In the comments below the Tweet, when asked what he meant by "season 4", Wormer seems to be very coy about clarifying on that. If it were a typo, he'd probably just come out and say so. But since he isn't, maybe "season 4" means something to him that's different from what it means to us. Perhaps, he meant the fourth season of production rather than broadcast. In this case, maybe the first season of production was the first half of the first televised season, with the second season of production being the second half of the first TV season, the third production season being all of the TV season 2 (since it's shorter), thus making the third TV season being the fourth production season.

To give an example of something like this, Beast Wars had something similar going on behind the scenes back in the day, in which Doug Parker (Terrorsaur) once mentioned online that he was then-currently doing voice work for "season 3" of the show when season 2 hadn't even started yet. What Parker meant by this was actually season 2 because, on the production side of things, one season is 13 episodes and season 1 of Beast Wars had 26 episodes, so it was more like two seasons from the production side despite all 26 episodes airing on TV as a single season.

Hasbro Studios confirmed the RID series length at 45 x 22mins. Season 2 will be 16 episodes long and end with a movie that equals three episodes. It was originally supposed to be 78 x 22 mins. but that has now changed. Here's a link confirming this:

http://www.asiatvforum.com/en/Exhibitor ... n-Disguise

And here's an image from Hasbro Studios confirming this as well:



So, while it is possible that a Season 3 will still happen, it is highly unlikely considering the change in the total number of episodes and the fact that a movie will end Season 2 just like Predacons Rising ended Season 3 of Prime.

I recall reading somewhere about that being the "current" episode count rather than the "final" count.

at least in the teaser we got to see those spheroid minicons! although no sign of more Overload yet!

Oh joy, the possibility of two more years of this stuff clouting shelves at my Walmart.

Fingers crossed it's a type for 2 or 3

Meh, I tried getting into this series and couldn't. I'm ready for some fresh material.

At this point, I really do hope for a season 3. I do enjoy the show and I want more of it. It did click with me. And take a grain of salt when referring to TFW "news" on occasion

saving so much money on this toyline its crazy. i just buy the warrior class figs. they are so few and far between though.

Just end this show already.

Smokescreen85 wrote:Hasbro Studios confirmed the RID series length at 45 x 22mins. Season 2 will be 16 episodes long and end with a movie that equals three episodes. It was originally supposed to be 78 x 22 mins. but that has now changed. Here's a link confirming this:

Cool, thanks for the data! I suppose that would line up with Hasbro's desire to the keep the focus on live-action during the relevant years - reminds me of this oddity we saw in 2014.Wonder whatever happened to those odd little badges - although I suppose 2015's would've been perfect for Steeljaw's gang... (and the prototype Predacon badge was likely a placeholder?)

In terms of toys, I get the distinct impression that the current Mini-cons are pretty popular!

omega666 wrote:Just end this show already.

no

Sabrblade wrote:There was no confirmation. It was TFW jumping the gun on declaring the end of "the kiddie garbage show that they everyone hates".

http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/11/17/hasb ... vie-305486

http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/01/04/tran ... nfo-307413


Looks like confirmation to me.


At the very least RID is ending with a movie.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:At the very least RID is ending with a movie.

as long as Michael Bay isn't allowed anywhere near it!

omega666 wrote:Just end this show already.

Oh sure we Hasbro studios is going to end a show before it starts because you wanted to.


See this is how all business works we listen to everything any fan says certainly no bad can come from that right?



Do I even need to write /s at the end?

Stuartmaximus wrote:
as long as Michael Bay isn't allowed anywhere near it!

They mean a movie like Predacons rising.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:
as long as Michael Bay isn't allowed anywhere near it!

They mean a movie like Predacons rising.

YES i know! i was only being sarcastic!

Stuartmaximus wrote:
YES i know! i was only being sarcastic!

That's what I thought but I was making sure.

Madeus Prime wrote:Oh joy, the possibility of two more years of this stuff clouting shelves at my Walmart.

Fingers crossed it's a type for 2 or 3

You do realize when they do end it they're just going to replace it with something similar, right? Hasbro's current model is to have three different lines going simultaneously with distinct, albeit overlapping, demographics. And then there's the movies in between that replaces all of the simplified cartoon toys with simplified movie toys. These things are never going away and will always be on the shelves as part of one line or another.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:Oh joy, the possibility of two more years of this stuff clouting shelves at my Walmart.

Fingers crossed it's a type for 2 or 3

You do realize when they do end it they're just going to replace it with something similar, right? Hasbro's current model is to have three different lines going simultaneously with distinct, albeit overlapping, demographics. And then there's the movies in between that replaces all of the simplified cartoon toys with simplified movie toys. These things are never going away and will always be on the shelves as part of one line or another.

Emerje

Yup, what Emerge said, plus Hasbro has made it pretty clear ever since G2 when the line practically died that the only way they get to ascertain that the brand remains in the public eye is to constantly have a media project backing it up for their core audience, which is 5-9 year olds. You cant get returning fans without getting some new fans in the first place.

Deadput wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:There was no confirmation. It was TFW jumping the gun on declaring the end of "the kiddie garbage show that they everyone hates".

http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/11/17/hasb ... vie-305486

http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/01/04/tran ... nfo-307413


Looks like confirmation to me.


At the very least RID is ending with a movie.

The only confirmation in that news they cited is that "Season 2 will be 16 episodes long with a movie to finish it." There is nothing in the news they link to that says "Season 2 is the final season and will end the RID cartoon for good."

Comparing this "shorter season plus a movie" format to Prime season 3 an Predacons Rising is poor form since Prime season 3 was already done and over with by the time Predacons Rising was even conceived. Preds Rising was not in any of the plans for season 3. It came along after the fact. This new movie, however, is slated to be the conclusion of RID season 2 before that season has even begun airing, meaning that this movie was planned much farther ahead of schedule when compared to how Preds Rising was created as an afterthought.

And I repeat, there has been NO official word of RID ending with season 2. All we know for sure is that season 2 is shorter and has a movie coming at the end of the season. Know what other Hasbro Studios cartoon did that and is still ongoing? My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Its usual season length is 26 episodes, but its third season was only 13 episodes and had the first Equestria Girls movie come after it before the 26-episode fourth season, which in turn was followed by the second Equastria Girls movie, and then the 26-episode fifth season (with the third Equestria Girls movie coming during season 5 instead of after). Therefore, a movie coming after a show's season does not automatically mean that the whole show is ending for good.

Besides, Wormer very clearly Tweeted the following in a comment below his original Tweet:

just starting up and it's looking to be a realllllllly fun season!

He has to be working on a new season since all of the storyboarding for season 2 and its movie would be long since done by now.

Sabrblade wrote: The only confirmation in that news they cited is that "Season 2 will be 16 episodes long with a movie to finish it." There is nothing in the news they link to that says "Season 2 is the final season and will end the RID cartoon for good."

Comparing this "shorter season plus a movie" format to Prime season 3 an Predacons Rising is poor form since Prime season 3 was already done and over with by the time Predacons Rising was even conceived. Preds Rising was not in any of the plans for season 3. It came along after the fact. This new movie, however, is slated to be the conclusion of RID season 2 before that season has even begun airing, meaning that this movie was planned much farther ahead of schedule when compared to how Preds Rising was created as an afterthought.

And I repeat, there has been NO official word of RID ending with season 2. All we know for sure is that season 2 is shorter and has a movie coming at the end of the season. Know what other Hasbro Studios cartoon did that and is still ongoing? My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Its usual season length is 26 episodes, but its third season was only 13 episodes and had the first Equestria Girls movie come after it before the 26-episode fourth season, which in turn was followed by the second Equastria Girls movie, and then the 26-episode fifth season (with the third Equestria Girls movie coming during season 5 instead of after). Therefore, a movie coming after a show's season does not automatically mean that the whole show is ending for good.

Besides, Wormer very clearly Tweeted the following in a comment below his original Tweet:

just starting up and it's looking to be a realllllllly fun season!

He has to be working on a new season since all of the storyboarding for season 2 and its movie would be long since done by now.

Regardless even if there is a third season I'm still going to take this with a grain of salt I don't think RID is going to have as good sales as Prime but that's just me.

Deadput wrote:Regardless even if there is a third season I'm still going to take this with a grain of salt I don't think RID is going to have as good sales as Prime but that's just me.

What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Regardless even if there is a third season I'm still going to take this with a grain of salt I don't think RID is going to have as good sales as Prime but that's just me.

What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

or the DVD's?

or maybe he's meaning the sales of the series to the networks?

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Regardless even if there is a third season I'm still going to take this with a grain of salt I don't think RID is going to have as good sales as Prime but that's just me.

What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

or maybe the DVD's?

DVDs are sold after the facts though so I dont think they can be real determinants. The only determenant for TV is viewer rate (neilsen rating).

william-james88 wrote:
What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

Yeah toys and merchandise in general I'm in no way saying that there are bad sales but I see a lot more rid on shelves then I ever saw Prime on shelves.


I'm just saying that sales are not possibly as good as Prime or a movie year.

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

Yeah toys and merchandise in general I'm in no way saying that there are bad sales but I see a lot more rid on shelves then I ever saw Prime on shelves.


I'm just saying that sales are not possibly as good as Prime or a movie year.

We cant base it on that this time. Waves in RID repeat older toys. The latest wave has more steeljaws. So if you see a bunch of steeljaws, it doesnt mean for sure that its the same from last year but it could be that your store got the latest wave and the newer figures sold out because collector found them.

Popularity for these toys is thus impossible to judge this time since no one can guarantee that those are the very same toys they see each time and not new stock.

I know this is just my own old man/jaded opinion, but it seems, ever since 2011, CN has dedicated themselves to providing only comedy based series. Any series that presented a sense of action and/or drama was canceled, many in a very undignified, and unsubstantiated fashion. Also, my jaded opinion is that pretty much all of these comedies suck. Thus when news of RiD15 being on CN was first announced, my perception was that it would not last long. The fact that it made it through its first season (26) episodes pretty much unhindered is nothing short of a miracle. Though If I understand correctly it has the typical worst time slot possible (I watch it online, so I really cant say, but its what I've heard). What boggles my mind though, is the logic that an action cartoon has to make a ton of money in toy sales to justify its existence. I mean I don't exactly see tons of Uncle Grandpa, Adventure Time, Teen Titans Go!, World of Gumball etc.. toys or merchandise being sold.

I have 2 kids. They love action series, are they an exception to the norm?. I mean... has there truly been a shift in the dynamic of kids today, that they only want stupid comedies, and that action cartoons are not in demand, or is that what CN just wants people to think?

IN any case, despite the seeming lack of evidence at this time, based on the recent history of CN, I do strongly believe the 2nd season of RiD15 will be its last. I have said this many times, but I am never to proud to happily admit if I am wrong, but CN recent history has killed so many great action series. Unless something changes within the senior management of CN, or perhaps the series goes over to Discovery Family, where it should have been in the first place (neither scenario I really see happening) I see very little prospects of RiD15 to go beyond season 2. And trust me... as someone who likes consistency, this saddens me. It is my ongoing torture being tied to the Transformers brand. Wanting an animated series with a long life, and never getting it because of the industries formula of rebranding the series every few years.

Fellow Seibertronians, hot on the heels of the season 2 announcement, and courtesy of our very own ScottyP, we now know that the Transformers RID season 1 is to be released onto dvd from Shout! Factory. Transformers: Robots In Disguise Season 1, which can be pre-oredred here for $25, is slated to be released on May 10, 2016, have 4 discs, a run-time of 9.5 hours, and have a list price of $30. The dvd cover has been mirrored and can be seen below along with the synopsis for the dvd.

Are you excited for this news? Are you going to pre-order it now, let us know in the comments below.

Synopsis

When a Cybertronian prison ship filled with Decepticons crash lands on Earth and unleashes its prisoners, Bumblebee returns to the planet he once called home and with his team — Strongarm, Sideswipe, Fixit and Grimlock — tracks the escapees down in order to bring them to justice. Along with their new human allies, Denny and Russell, this unlikely team of robots in disguise must protect the Earth while preparing for an ominous threat suited only for a Prime.

Includes All 26 Episodes Of Season One!

Yes definitely excited. especially since after 2 single disc DVD releases, I thought they might just keep cranking these out ala Rescue Bots with no season sets. The only thing that prevents me from pre-ordering is waiting to see if they have a Blu Ray release planned. If no news is released in the coming weeks, then I'll definitely settle for the DVD set.

o.supreme wrote:Yes definitely excited. especially since after 2 single disc DVD releases, I thought they might just keep cranking these out ala Rescue Bots with no season sets. The only thing that prevents me from pre-ordering is waiting to see if they have a Blu Ray release planned. If no news is released in the coming weeks, then I'll definitely settle for the DVD set.

Have there been blu-ray releases for previous titles from Shout! before?

Yes All 3 seasons of Transformers Prime & the film Predacons Rising are all on Blu Ray, they look beautiful!

Additionally G.I. Joe Renegades and I *think* some of the MLP films are on Blu Ray also.

o.supreme wrote:Yes All 3 seasons of Transformers Prime & the film Predacons Rising are all on Blu Ray, they look beautiful!

Then I'd say wait, or buy it when it's on sale the first week at target and return it if the blu-ray announcement comes through;

On an unrelated note, wonder if the BW show would look nice on blu-ray

Hellscream9999 wrote:On an unrelated note, wonder if the BW show would look nice on blu-ray

Note sure... Not many TV shows prior to the HD era are being released on Blu Ray (The various Star Trek series are some that come to mind), but they usually require some extensive digital reworking and preservation. Although what Mainframe was producing in the mid-90's to early 2000's was ground breaking, I'm not sure how well it would look in HD (would it look better, or only highlight the flaws in the early CG that we may not notice now??)

I also guess it depends on the quality of the master prints that S!F has. I know they have released Beast Wars a couple of times on DVD. I still have the original Rhino releases, so I don't cant say if the S!F ones are any better, or pretty much the same, just repackaged.

o.supreme wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:On an unrelated note, wonder if the BW show would look nice on blu-ray

Note sure... Not many TV shows prior to the HD era are being released on Blu Ray (The various Star Trek series are some that come to mind), but they usually require some extensive digital reworking and preservation. Although what Mainframe was producing in the mid-90's to early 2000's was ground breaking, I'm not sure how well it would look in HD (would it look better, or only highlight the flaws in the early CG that we may not notice now??)

I also guess it depends on the quality of the master prints that S!F has. I know they have released Beast Wars a couple of times on DVD. I still have the original Rhino releases, so I don't cant say if the S!F ones are any better, or pretty much the same, just repackaged.

Not sure, I have both, but never compared. Doesn't matter I s'pose; Think I might grab this set, not sure though, for as great as the new 's are, there's alotta dumb fluff in the show, that's not even counting the irritating new human and his dumb cosplay gimmick; might re-watch it first

They're probably waiting to see how the DVD does before considering Blu-Ray for this one. Prime's audience not only skewed a bit older, but the show really benefits from HD as well. That made a Blu-Ray release kind of a no brainer.

Kids won't care about 480p vs 1080p, so it makes sense to keep the cost down on this series by just going the DVD route for now.

On another note, I'm very glad they announced this before the episode 6-10 single disc released. Saves a little bit of dough on that one.

ScottyP wrote:They're probably waiting to see how the DVD does before considering Blu-Ray for this one. Prime's audience not only skewed a bit older, but the show really benefits from HD as well. That made a Blu-Ray release kind of a no brainer.

Agreed. And although for example- MLP has a huge adult cult following, it may not be quite enough to justify Blu Ray sets of the regular TV show, as opposed to the telefilms. I agree that RiD15 would probably not benefit nearly as much from Blu Ray as Prime does, but the only reason I am holding out is if they are doing both at the same time (or roughly within the same time frame), I will obviously go with the Blu Ray. If not, then the DVD is just fine. I have managed in *most* cases to stick to my guns and not frivolously double-dip for Blu Rays that I already have DVD's of.

I am so stoked about this!!!! was about too order the 2nd RID but now I am gonna wait to get S1!!!!!!!!! Now all SHOUT! FACTORY needs to release is the RESCUE BOTS Season sets, RID 2001, BW2 & BW Neo. and for kicks TF GO Shinobi & Samurai! and everything else we missed!!

Wow, that it some generically-boring-looking DVD artwork. Just the same stock photo of Bee we saw when the show was first announced.

Sabrblade wrote:Wow, that it some generically-boring-looking DVD artwork. Just the same stock photo of Bee we saw when the show was first announced.

Shout Factory doesn't really put alot of energy into packaging design.

JoeMabbon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Wow, that it some generically-boring-looking DVD artwork. Just the same stock photo of Bee we saw when the show was first announced.

Shout Factory doesn't really put alot of energy into packaging design.

Their G1 and Beast Wars DVD set artworks looked pretty good, with the G1 sets having all new art while the Beast Wars art was creatively arranged Mainframe art. And their Beast Machines DVD art looked stunningly gorgeous.

Sabrblade wrote:

JoeMabbon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Wow, that it some generically-boring-looking DVD artwork. Just the same stock photo of Bee we saw when the show was first announced.

Shout Factory doesn't really put alot of energy into packaging design.

Their G1 and Beast Wars DVD set artworks looked pretty good, with the G1 sets having all new art while the Beast Wars art was creatively arranged Mainframe art. And their Beast Machines DVD art looked stunningly gorgeous.

I have the beast wars DVDs and the inside art is pretty cool.

o.supreme wrote:What boggles my mind though, is the logic that an action cartoon has to make a ton of money in toy sales to justify its existence. I mean I don't exactly see tons of Uncle Grandpa, Adventure Time, Teen Titans Go!, World of Gumball etc.. toys or merchandise being sold.

Those shows are produced directly by Cartoon Network so they're making money off of advertising and licensing and whatnot. If the show fails they don't take a huge loss. On the other hand the action shows are typically produced by toy companies that have to produce the animation and buy the air time all with the goal to sell toys. If the toys don't sell then there's no need for the cartoon anymore so they cancel it and cut their losses. Unfortunately this means even good, promising shows like the updated Thundercats can be canceled out of the blue if the toy company (in this case Bandai) isn't selling toys.

Sabrblade wrote:

JoeMabbon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Wow, that it some generically-boring-looking DVD artwork. Just the same stock photo of Bee we saw when the show was first announced.

Shout Factory doesn't really put alot of energy into packaging design.

Their G1 and Beast Wars DVD set artworks looked pretty good, with the G1 sets having all new art while the Beast Wars art was creatively arranged Mainframe art. And their Beast Machines DVD art looked stunningly gorgeous.

Those DVDs are made to appeal to nostalgic adults that will want them to look cool on a shelf. The RID discs are made bright and flashy to get kids' attention.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Those DVDs are made to appeal to nostalgic adults that will want them to look cool on a shelf. The RID discs are made bright and flashy to get kids' attention.

What about the Armada and Energon DVDs looking just as bland while Cybertron gets a neat-looking DVD set?