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Also on display were their WWII style PCC upgrade limbs. We see them in full color, in both modes, and combined with PCC Commanders Heavytread and Bombshock.
Here we see their Reflector-esque trio DSLR in a black deco and it appears their lens accessory transforms into a weapon of some sort with a light-up feature.
Not wanting to miss out on repaint opportunities we see Ultra Magnus, Thundercracker, and Skywarp Targetroids and a black version of Primars.
Lastly Junkion Blacksmith had their upcoming Headmasters on display.
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Posted by alexison on May 1st, 2011 @ 6:36pm CDT
Reflector looks like crap to me. Easy pass.
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on May 1st, 2011 @ 6:53pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on May 1st, 2011 @ 6:54pm CDT
Please, sir. May I have some more? Bonecrusher and Mixmaster?
Love Doctor Crank, too.
Posted by quickmixed on May 1st, 2011 @ 7:34pm CDT
Posted by GEEWUN on May 1st, 2011 @ 7:36pm CDT
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hercules Hercules Hercules
That is exactly what I thought of!
Hercules, is art! I love Hercules. Perhaps it is because he resembles some other decepticon combiner... Oh well Hercules is my favorite combiner!!!!
Posted by Sodan-1 on May 1st, 2011 @ 7:49pm CDT
Apart from giving us our first idea of what a complete Devastator would look like, aswell as names, they haven't really given us anything new (i.e. RELEASE DATE & PRICE!!!!!)
And I wouldn't be surprised if that all-black colour scheme on the DSLR will put a lot of its supporters off.
Posted by metaphorge on May 1st, 2011 @ 8:45pm CDT
Also no-one seems to have mentioned the Ultra Magnus-style repaint of Opti-aim (or whatever the Convoy-inspired Targetmaster ended up being called); have we seen it before, and what will it come packaged with if they stick to two-pack shakers selling these).
Very impressed overall, especially with Hercules.
Posted by adamassc on May 1st, 2011 @ 9:30pm CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on May 1st, 2011 @ 9:51pm CDT
Hasbro should hang there head in shame. Or at least take some notes on what combiners are supposed to look like when they see what these guys are puttin out.
It's not as hard as Hasbro seems to make it.
Posted by krenger99 on May 2nd, 2011 @ 2:29am CDT
Devastator is going to devastate by bank account. Based off of the sheer size and detail, he'll be going for several hundreds of dollars, if not over a thousand, for the set.
The new camera trio looks very nice but I think it lacks something. Maybe it's a little too modern looking, I'm not sure.
It'd be nice if they gave an approximate price range for these. If for nothing else than to know how much we'll need to save, make, and/or spend to get them.
Posted by bvzxa on May 2nd, 2011 @ 2:34am CDT
amcgrath929 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Dead Metal wrote:amcgrath929 wrote:Kibble wrote:bvzxa wrote:Now the bigger dilemma will come down to whether the Crossfire03 set by FP will be worth the money to buy if you didn't have Energon or Classics Devastator, or just go out and get this set. Though FP's project should be brilliancy, this Deva' is a better representation. I really want it. Please let the quality be on par with FP.
Yes...because it's not going to be for Dev...at least not according to Venksta, who's pretty plugged in with the on goings of FP.
Agreed, it isn't set in stone to be Devy. But I'm not certain anyone has come out and said it wasn't either. Venksta has said things to make it seem it was and wasn't so I don't know what to think.
I believe FP actually said themselves they wouldn't be doing Devastator and that Crossfire 03 had nothing to do with Combiners. One of the reasons for not doing Devastator is that they stated they won't be tackling projects others are already doing since their G3 trailer tanked due to the BTS Classics Prime trailer.
That sucks about the trailer. I still want one but I don't have a way to display it. I didn't like the BTS trailer at all.
I guess I jumped on the bandwagon of thinking Crossfire 03 would be Devastator. That's cool because every time I see this Devastator it makes me glad I sold my Walmart set. I still have the Target Constructicons I got from CP which I am fond of, but if this project comes to light...I will have a true Deva'.
Off topic a bit:
I would love to see some original designs into a combiner. If Cx03 is a new group, aww man I can't wait because I want to recreate Scramble City so bad...my wallet must be fortified!!!
He means the sales tanked, not the trailer. The trailer itself is amazing.
I recall them saying that at Botcon a couple years ago I believe. Then Venksta came out and said they changed their mind and to not be surprised if we saw it first in green. Shortly after he said that, he came out and pretty much retracted the entire statement. So, who knows really. It will be impressive most likely no matter what it is.
My biggest pull for them to do it is scale. The TFC Devastator will most likely be cool, but out of scale with all the other combiners I own.
No I am aware that he was talking about the sales...duh?
I was commenting that "yeah it sucked it didn't sell well" which I probably should have included in my earlier post.
I see there are more pics added. The camera does not look bad to me. I guess closer pics will give me an idea if I want to drop the cash or not. I like the size. P.E. toys don't do it for me. Shadow warrior was way too small and should have been $30 less than what I paid for it.
Looks like it may be TFC's year once all these projects come to fruition.
Posted by metaphorge on May 2nd, 2011 @ 2:45am CDT
krenger99 wrote:Get to Target if you haven't got a Bombshock figure. They have the same mold on clearance. It's called: Steelshot w/ Beacon. It's the exact same mold but as an Autobot Variant.
Already ahead of you; picked up three (one to display in each mode) earlier this evening.
Posted by GEEWUN on May 2nd, 2011 @ 4:57am CDT
Posted by Mykltron on May 2nd, 2011 @ 5:27am CDT
Posted by kookookajew on May 2nd, 2011 @ 5:34am CDT
Please be a reasonable price ... hell even if he isn't, I think I could get em' anyways due to my lack of interest of the next movie line (with the exception of like 3-4 toys)
Posted by Counterpunch on May 2nd, 2011 @ 7:16am CDT
Until then...nothing from me.
Posted by Maldroth on May 2nd, 2011 @ 7:32am CDT
Posted by GuyIncognito on May 2nd, 2011 @ 7:54am CDT
That's all I can say. I want everything shown here, including Chibi-Head OP.
Posted by hinomars19 on May 2nd, 2011 @ 8:59am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:hinomars19 wrote:Kibble wrote:^^ Not to mention if Hasbro did this and charged $500-600 "we" would probably throw a friggin' sissy fit of epic proportions. As T-Mack stated, they're perfectly capable, it's just not necessarily in their best interest...and probably couldn't put out the same figure and still adhere to safety laws.
But it wouldn't need to cost anywhere near $500 if it was official would it?
And this devy isn't gonna break the supreme class size either is it? I thought rough comparison shots put them around deluxe size each? Supreme starscreams arms and legs are biger than deluxes.
Or am I just talking out my ar*e again?
I'm afraid only half out of that rear end.
You see, the cost mainly comes from:
- Length of Development
- Size and Number of pieces on the toys
- Number and size of Production Runs
- Promotion, including commercials, TV shows and comics.
Factors that influence the above include:
- Target Audience and by extension, projected sales.
- Local Toy Safety Laws
All is tied within a budget, and the development of a proper Devastator would take so much resources, it would probably take the budget of a line and a half! Can't really do much with a line consisting of a single figure, can you?
so I was half right then?
That's the kind of answer I was looking for. Cheers. So, I'm guessing the reason it's different today than back in the 80's is due to 2 things: Each constructicon back in the day had virtually no parts due to their simplicity compared to today's standards thus cheaper to produce, AND they were in the cartoon?
That's why Energon combiners only had 2 of the 4 limbs designed, to cut all of these factors in half. And again, they were in the show. Understood.
I wonder how succesful sales of the ROTF Devastator set were? Or the individual transforming 'constructicons' put out for that matter. Be interesting to see if having a blockbuster movie behind them did actually substantiate their belief in their system. Or would any loss made on toys not matter due to the ridiculous money Hasbro would get for rights and stuff?
I want this...'hercules' but I doubt I can pay for it. Ah well. (but ya never know)
Posted by Kibble on May 2nd, 2011 @ 9:59am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 2nd, 2011 @ 10:42am CDT
hinomars19 wrote:That's the kind of answer I was looking for. Cheers. So, I'm guessing the reason it's different today than back in the 80's is due to 2 things: Each constructicon back in the day had virtually no parts due to their simplicity compared to today's standards thus cheaper to produce, AND they were in the cartoon?
That's why Energon combiners only had 2 of the 4 limbs designed, to cut all of these factors in half. And again, they were in the show. Understood.
I wonder how succesful sales of the ROTF Devastator set were? Or the individual transforming 'constructicons' put out for that matter. Be interesting to see if having a blockbuster movie behind them did actually substantiate their belief in their system. Or would any loss made on toys not matter due to the ridiculous money Hasbro would get for rights and stuff?
I want this...'hercules' but I doubt I can pay for it. Ah well. (but ya never know)
Movie Devastator was turned into a Tonka-styled combiner for a number of reasons. The most obvious one is cost, but Hasbro also decided to keep the number of parts low to lessen the complexity, and to decrease the total weight. Especially the last one is vital concerning Toy Safety. You really don't want a hefty Fortress Maximus landing on your head, much less this monstrosity. That may have played a part in Devastator's components not transforming into robots in the movie.
At least we got 4 transforming Constructicons in the main toy line, even if they didn't combine. I'm cool with that.
Posted by Jazz-1982 on May 2nd, 2011 @ 11:10am CDT
Hasbro, Takara Tomy please give us something at least half as awesome as this someday! And no crappy power core combiners or reissues of classics 'Devastator' although that's most likely all we'll get.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on May 2nd, 2011 @ 12:28pm CDT
Seriously though, I need those PCC parts AND not-Devastator, but I fear not-Devastators price, as he looks to be very close or even above the $200 mark.
Posted by Kibble on May 2nd, 2011 @ 12:46pm CDT
Posted by Mkall on May 2nd, 2011 @ 1:15pm CDT
Posted by rpetras on May 2nd, 2011 @ 1:15pm CDT
I'm glad I opted for the other Reflector though. These are cool, but not enough of a homage for me.
I also like the PCC set, and hope they come out with more.
Posted by Burnin12 on May 2nd, 2011 @ 1:41pm CDT
This pic of Not-Devestator next to The PCC combiner makes Not-Devestator look smaller than I thought he would be.
I don't remember, did we get actual confirmation of their (Not-Constructicons) size being Voyager or was that just speculation? If not I would speculate them to be more of a larger Deluxe size by looking at the size of Not-Devestator and their individual alt modes now that we have them pictured with other figures.
Posted by Captziltoid on May 2nd, 2011 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 2nd, 2011 @ 3:46pm CDT
Now someone please tell me regarding the PCC WWII set will they combine with any core TF or just the ones shown? And who is the core TF oposite of Onslaught is it? I think that one looks better at the center. When these where first posted I didn't even know they were combiners. They look pretty sweet on their own. Time to put in some OT at work to make what ALL of this will cost...'nuff said!
Posted by DTR69 on May 2nd, 2011 @ 3:46pm CDT
Captziltoid wrote:ok that damn devastator makes my pants get tighter. I NEED TO SEE IT IN COLOR!!!!
Just a 5min job but some idea.
My main concern is the knee joints. The knee is part of the lower combiner and from the look of the limb transformed that part does have the posability to have a ratchet joint, although it does appear to be molded to the area below it actually pulls away and becomes back kibble in the smaller robot mode, weather it pulls away with a ratchet joint and is kibble for a reason, as it could of easily been part of the smaller robot, sp fingers crossed
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on May 2nd, 2011 @ 9:49pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:Now someone please tell me regarding the PCC WWII set will they combine with any core TF or just the ones shown? And who is the core TF oposite of Onslaught is it? I think that one looks better at the center. When these where first posted I didn't even know they were combiners. They look pretty sweet on their own. Time to put in some OT at work to make what ALL of this will cost...'nuff said!
All the commander PCC figures have the same connecting ports so yeah any of them will work. That is Heavytread who has a tank alt mode next to Bombshock (onslaught looking one).
Posted by Pr1meSuspect on May 3rd, 2011 @ 12:18am CDT