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Posted by BeastProwl on August 29th, 2012 @ 11:46am CDT
Posted by a Cobra Viper on August 29th, 2012 @ 11:55am CDT
BeastProwl wrote:Neat! now if only we could get this domestically.
I believe this is part of the subscription service which will be/is available to everyone.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 29th, 2012 @ 11:57am CDT
Posted by BeastProwl on August 29th, 2012 @ 11:57am CDT
a Cobra Viper wrote:BeastProwl wrote:Neat! now if only we could get this domestically.
I believe this is part of the subscription service which will be/is available to everyone.
Yeah, and it costs an arm and a leg.
Posted by XDMan on August 29th, 2012 @ 12:00pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on August 29th, 2012 @ 12:09pm CDT
Posted by mooncake623 on August 29th, 2012 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by Mkall on August 29th, 2012 @ 12:59pm CDT
Posted by Blurrz on August 29th, 2012 @ 1:32pm CDT
BeastProwl wrote:a Cobra Viper wrote:BeastProwl wrote:Neat! now if only we could get this domestically.
I believe this is part of the subscription service which will be/is available to everyone.
Yeah, and it costs an arm and a leg.
1. TFCC heads are never released at retail.
2. These ones are actually relatively cheap compared to most exclusives.
Posted by Blurrz on August 29th, 2012 @ 1:35pm CDT
BeastProwl wrote:a Cobra Viper wrote:BeastProwl wrote:Neat! now if only we could get this domestically.
I believe this is part of the subscription service which will be/is available to everyone.
Yeah, and it costs an arm and a leg.
1. TFCC heads are never released at retail.
2. These ones are actually relatively cheap compared to most exclusives.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 29th, 2012 @ 2:03pm CDT
Because of this crap, we probably won't ever get an official slipstream any better than this. Hopefully a 3rd party company pulls it off.
Hasbro/Takara should have a fembot toyline where its just a bunch of female robots who still transform. Not only might it help with the female market, but it would round out our collections
Posted by Bounti76 on August 29th, 2012 @ 2:13pm CDT
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 29th, 2012 @ 2:23pm CDT
Bounti76 wrote:Some of you are saying the mold doesn't look "feminine" or she doesn't look like a "fembot". I have to disagree. Since Day 1, the Starscream mold has looked more feminine than Arcee...tall, willowy, slender, curvy around the hips and chest...if that's not feminine, I don't know what is.
The mould has no proper breasty chest. Its hunched over like an old creepy man.
The shoulders are way too high up and the thighs aren't round enough. It just makes the mould look more like a creepy old man, which was made for Starscream. Theres enough subtle looks of the figure that are just too masculine. I think, anyway.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 29th, 2012 @ 2:33pm CDT
All I was referring to was the head.Bounti76 wrote:Some of you are saying the mold doesn't look "feminine" or she doesn't look like a "fembot". I have to disagree. Since Day 1, the Starscream mold has looked more feminine than Arcee...tall, willowy, slender, curvy around the hips and chest...if that's not feminine, I don't know what is.
Posted by Bounti76 on August 29th, 2012 @ 3:00pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:All I was referring to was the head.Bounti76 wrote:Some of you are saying the mold doesn't look "feminine" or she doesn't look like a "fembot". I have to disagree. Since Day 1, the Starscream mold has looked more feminine than Arcee...tall, willowy, slender, curvy around the hips and chest...if that's not feminine, I don't know what is.
Okay, that I can agree with. The head isn't terribly feminine. I was mostly referring to the body of the Starscream mold, which has always looked very feminine to me.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Bounti76 wrote:Some of you are saying the mold doesn't look "feminine" or she doesn't look like a "fembot". I have to disagree. Since Day 1, the Starscream mold has looked more feminine than Arcee...tall, willowy, slender, curvy around the hips and chest...if that's not feminine, I don't know what is.
The mould has no proper breasty chest. Its hunched over like an old creepy man.
The shoulders are way too high up and the thighs aren't round enough. It just makes the mould look more like a creepy old man, which was made for Starscream. Theres enough subtle looks of the figure that are just too masculine. I think, anyway.
I can see your point. To me, anyway, it still does look like a very feminine mold. I don't think fembots need robo-boobs to be fembots, though. Strika? Minerva? Nightracer? Freezon? Movie Arcee, Chromia and Elita-1? Energon Arcee? The original Flamewar? Flareup? Path Finder? Smallfoot? None of them have what you'd call terribly feminine chests, yet they're still easily identifiable as female. Well...all except Strika, Freezon and Nightracer, and the G1 GoBot femmes anyway.
Count me among the few fans who don't care if fembots are terribly feminine. I also don't understand the point of "lipstick" on a ROBOT..
Posted by gothsaurus on August 29th, 2012 @ 3:16pm CDT
Maybe a 3rd party will help with some tiny touch ups to bring it up to perfection.
Posted by zodconvoy on August 29th, 2012 @ 3:21pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on August 29th, 2012 @ 4:01pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:All I was referring to was the head.Bounti76 wrote:Some of you are saying the mold doesn't look "feminine" or she doesn't look like a "fembot". I have to disagree. Since Day 1, the Starscream mold has looked more feminine than Arcee...tall, willowy, slender, curvy around the hips and chest...if that's not feminine, I don't know what is.
As was I. I find Prime Starscream to be just feminine enough in terms of mold, though I agree that it has some very masculine cues, a good head swap would make a perfect Slipstream. This is a FAR cry from a perfect new head for a fembot. It's a real shame, since the head is the one thing they got RIGHT with Airachnid.
Posted by gothsaurus on August 29th, 2012 @ 4:24pm CDT
ie. not just the head, but chest, hips, heels, etc...
Then surprise the wits out of us when they reveal the remold.
Heck, they should do that for ALL the molds!!! Femmebots for each mold! Woooooo!
Posted by Rushie on August 29th, 2012 @ 4:42pm CDT
I don't get the whole issue with a 'feminine' mold. Does it have to have an hourglass busty figure with lipstick and curves all over? Male TFs aren't exactly all chiseled statues of David. It's like those silly cartoon animals whose gf are their clone, but with eyelashes and a skirt, to make sure we understand it's a woman.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 29th, 2012 @ 4:51pm CDT
And just to lighten things up:
Posted by dedcat on August 29th, 2012 @ 4:52pm CDT
Posted by xyl360 on August 29th, 2012 @ 7:09pm CDT
dedcat wrote:I have to agree with the calls for makeup. A little bit of "lipstick" would go a long way to aid with the feminine appearance.
Did you see the new pic they posted? It looks like they did give her dark lips.
I agree with what many others have said here. A woman (robot or not) does NOT require breasts (in fact, what the hell would a ROBOT do with breasts anyway?), does NOT require an hourglass figure (a shape seldom seen in nature, even among human females) and doesn't have to have 'wide childbearing hips' (Cybertronians don't give birth, right? Aren't they all produced by Vector Sigma/Primus?).
All the feminine ques in the Starscream mold are plenty for me, and actually more than necessary, so much so that many complained about just how feminine he looked in Prime.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 29th, 2012 @ 7:25pm CDT
xyl360 wrote:dedcat wrote:I have to agree with the calls for makeup. A little bit of "lipstick" would go a long way to aid with the feminine appearance.
Did you see the new pic they posted? It looks like they did give her dark lips.
I agree with what many others have said here. A woman (robot or not) does NOT require breasts (in fact, what the hell would a ROBOT do with breasts anyway?), does NOT require an hourglass figure (a shape seldom seen in nature, even among human females) and doesn't have to have 'wide childbearing hips' (Cybertronians don't give birth, right? Aren't they all produced by Vector Sigma/Primus?).
All the feminine ques in the Starscream mold are plenty for me, and actually more than necessary, so much so that many complained about just how feminine he looked in Prime.
Wait... what? Nature is suddenly being used as the basis of realism for Transformers? Non-humans in nature as well?
They're aliens. Alien fembots (who according to the lore were experimented with by Jhiaxus as he saw females from other alien species). If we're not going with this, or any theory of what makes a fembot a fembot, what does make it a fembot? Just the title "fem"? Its a ridiculous debate since we all know what sexy is, so why not have sexy fembots. You really want a rosie'o donnel looking fembot?
You even just said that the Starscream mould has female characteristics, so then why is it such a bad thing to want more of the female characteristics for a fembot?
This isn't about realism in robots, because, for starters, its a fantasy from the get go. Second, even if you did go with the lore, and the cartoons, the characters who were fembots often did have female porpotions in some way or form, whether their voice, lips, eyes, or body. Coming back to the figure itself, it has no voice, so it depends on looks to make it a fembot. If the Starscream mould is good enough for you, great. I'm here to ensure a message goes through to the few people who make Transformers that we need a better, more feminine Slipstream. I don't want a fat, or manly Slipstream, JUST coz it isn't necessary for the pseudo rules of Transforming robots.
- An Hourglass figure doesn't mean she has to have "perfect" porpotions, but generally female porpotions. Just wanted to clear that up so people didn't think I was being super critical.
Posted by Kung Fu Man on August 29th, 2012 @ 7:38pm CDT
Still leaves the hips as an issue but it's a start if it works.
Posted by dedcat on August 29th, 2012 @ 9:16pm CDT
xyl360 wrote:
"what the hell would a ROBOT do with breasts anyway?"
THIS!
Posted by xyl360 on August 29th, 2012 @ 9:18pm CDT
dedcat wrote:xyl360 wrote:
"what the hell would a ROBOT do with breasts anyway?"
THIS!
Touche'
Posted by Flashwave on August 29th, 2012 @ 10:24pm CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote:NOT Fembot mould, period.
Because of this crap, we probably won't ever get an official slipstream any better than this. Hopefully a 3rd party company pulls it off.
Hasbro/Takara should have a fembot toyline where its just a bunch of female robots who still transform. Not only might it help with the female market, but it would round out our collections
Without this supposed crap, we wouldn't get it AT ALL. The only reason TFCC gets to run Scourge and Slipstream is because Hasbro has said they won't touch it. This IS the offical release, without this, there wold be none.
Agreed on the second part though.
Posted by kirbenvost on August 29th, 2012 @ 10:41pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 29th, 2012 @ 10:42pm CDT
What new pic? This is the latest one they've Tweeted. Unless you're referring to one from another source, that isn't what we're talking about.xyl360 wrote:Did you see the new pic they posted? It looks like they did give her dark lips.
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on August 29th, 2012 @ 11:32pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Without this supposed crap, we wouldn't get it AT ALL. The only reason TFCC gets to run Scourge and Slipstream is because Hasbro has said they won't touch it. This IS the offical release, without this, there wold be none.
I wouldn't necessarily say that wouldn't get it at all or that this is the official release. It just means that Hasbro has no current plans for the character. There are lots of characters that funpub put out as club or BotCon exclusives that Hasbro years down the line decided to do officially.
There were a lot of people who thought the same thing back in 2007 when Funpub put Thundercracker, Dirge and Ramjet in the Games of Deception set.
Posted by Rated X on August 29th, 2012 @ 11:51pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2012 @ 12:14am CDT
Even though it's meant to be Prime Slipstream.Rated X wrote:I think the mold works great for a classics Slipstream.
Posted by Bounti76 on August 30th, 2012 @ 12:24am CDT
Rated X wrote:I think the mold works great for a classics Slipstream. Feminine to the max. And in many Asian countries, alot of girls have a B cup or smaller so the chest looks fine. The original slipstream (animated) had a cockpit on her mid-section like all seekers, not breasts. This will be my first TF Prime mold and works great for classics.
I agree. It's feminine enough (to me) that putting along side the other, Blockier Deluxe Seekers works.
And maybe I'm the only one but wouldn't an original G2 Ramjet work as a G1 Slipstream? Provided that she ever makes an appearance in G1 storylines/canon. He has teal and purple coloring, so no repainting would be necessary. Except maybe for some robo-lipstick
Posted by Megatronsdemise666 on August 30th, 2012 @ 12:33am CDT
The arms are flat and shoulders to high. The head looks slouchey too
I wonder how the voyager mold would have worked
Posted by Mkall on August 30th, 2012 @ 12:40am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Even though it's meant to be Prime Slipstream.Rated X wrote:I think the mold works great for a classics Slipstream.
Honestly, there's a great deal of similarity between WFC Slipstream (where the asthetics were more in line with Classics than TF: Prime) and this figure. It could probably fit in either line pretty well
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2012 @ 12:50am CDT
Yay! All the better for her ancient era and modern era designs to resemble each other, being the same person and all.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Even though it's meant to be Prime Slipstream.Rated X wrote:I think the mold works great for a classics Slipstream.
Honestly, there's a great deal of similarity between WFC Slipstream (where the asthetics were more in line with Classics than TF: Prime) and this figure.
Posted by Mkall on August 30th, 2012 @ 1:13am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yay! All the better for her ancient era and modern era designs to resemble each other, being the same person and all.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Even though it's meant to be Prime Slipstream.Rated X wrote:I think the mold works great for a classics Slipstream.
Honestly, there's a great deal of similarity between WFC Slipstream (where the asthetics were more in line with Classics than TF: Prime) and this figure.
Careful with statements like that, because then this must be the same character as this, this be the same as this, or (and this is my personal favourite), this is this.
Now before you go all "know-it-all" on me, please be aware that I'm being pedantic for the fun of it. Yes I know that, aside from Arcee (who certainly didn't match TF: Prime's Arcee in any of the show's flashbacks), they're pretty much the same characterization and artistic direction varied wildly between High Moon's games and TF: Prime.
I'm only pointing out that TFSS Slipstream's scheme matched the proposed WFC's character, and that the WFC art style meshed more with Classics than Prime. But then again Slipstream is obviously a Prime mold, and thus could very easily fit in with the TF: Prime line too.
I'm all for saying we're both right. She may be, as you put it "meant for Prime" but I believe she'll work pretty well in Classics too.
Posted by GuyIncognito on August 30th, 2012 @ 8:00am CDT
And, of course, all the male bots should have facial hair and penises.
Posted by Rated X on August 30th, 2012 @ 9:09am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yay! All the better for her ancient era and modern era designs to resemble each other, being the same person and all.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Even though it's meant to be Prime Slipstream.Rated X wrote:I think the mold works great for a classics Slipstream.
Honestly, there's a great deal of similarity between WFC Slipstream (where the asthetics were more in line with Classics than TF: Prime) and this figure.
For me I see it as a classics figure. There is no Slipstream in TF Prime. She is from the Animated continuity. Didnt know she was in WFC/FOC since Im not into video games. I think Funpub is known for repainting molds from other continuities into classics figures.
Examples:
R.I.D. Skybyte from Energon Sharkticon
G1 Circuit from ROTF Lockdown
G1 Spinister from HFTD Tomohawk
Classics Nightbeat from Energon Hot Shot
I dont see anybody sticking these figures on their Energon or Bayverse shelves, they are using them as stand ins for their classic collection. So I just cant see why people insist this figure was meant for the TF Prime line knowing Funpub's general history. Why would someone want a TF Prime Slipstream, when there is no TF Prime Thundercracker, Thrust, Dirge, or Ramjet ? I think Funpub listened to all the rants about how feminine the Prime SS mold looked, so they used it as a female seeker variant instead of giving us the same old classics seeker mold. If we only used "classics" molds for a classics collection, it would have no variety. It would be a shelf of repaints.
Posted by kirbenvost on August 30th, 2012 @ 10:42am CDT
Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yay! All the better for her ancient era and modern era designs to resemble each other, being the same person and all.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Even though it's meant to be Prime Slipstream.Rated X wrote:I think the mold works great for a classics Slipstream.
Honestly, there's a great deal of similarity between WFC Slipstream (where the asthetics were more in line with Classics than TF: Prime) and this figure.
For me I see it as a classics figure. There is no Slipstream in TF Prime. She is from the Animated continuity. Didnt know she was in WFC/FOC since Im not into video games. I think Funpub is known for repainting molds from other continuities into classics figures.
Examples:
R.I.D. Skybyte from Energon Sharkticon
G1 Circuit from ROTF Lockdown
G1 Spinister from HFTD Tomohawk
Classics Nightbeat from Energon Hot Shot
I dont see anybody sticking these figures on their Energon or Bayverse shelves, they are using them as stand ins for their classic collection. So I just cant see why people insist this figure was meant for the TF Prime line knowing Funpub's general history. Why would someone want a TF Prime Slipstream, when there is no TF Prime Thundercracker, Thrust, Dirge, or Ramjet ? I think Funpub listened to all the rants about how feminine the Prime SS mold looked, so they used it as a female seeker variant instead of giving us the same old classics seeker mold. If we only used "classics" molds for a classics collection, it would have no variety. It would be a shelf of repaints.
But until there's some supporting fiction or a bio that fits her into a specific universe, there *could* be a Prime Slipstream, like one of the several non-show characters released so far. I get what you're saying in regards to Funpub's general history, however they have done Animated releases (Cheetor) which are officially part of the Animated Universe. I'm guessing Jackpot will be as well, since the Animated aesthetic doesn't really fit anywhere else.
So there's really no reason Slipstream couldn't be a Prime release, but it does fit fairly well with Classics as well, so it depends on what TFCC decides to release it as, and where you decide to display it. I personally like to put my figures with whatever line they look best with, and that tends to be the line where the mold was first introduced. Hence, if I were to buy TFCC Slipstream, I'd probably display her with my Prime figures, regardless of the official word on where she belongs.
Posted by Flashwave on August 30th, 2012 @ 11:20am CDT
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Flashwave wrote:Without this supposed crap, we wouldn't get it AT ALL. The only reason TFCC gets to run Scourge and Slipstream is because Hasbro has said they won't touch it. This IS the offical release, without this, there wold be none.
I wouldn't necessarily say that wouldn't get it at all or that this is the official release. It just means that Hasbro has no current plans for the character. There are lots of characters that funpub put out as club or BotCon exclusives that Hasbro years down the line decided to do officially.
There were a lot of people who thought the same thing back in 2007 when Funpub put Thundercracker, Dirge and Ramjet in the Games of Deception set.
Point.
I'd forgotten about the Seeker fiasco that erupted on the boards. I was going on something I thought came after from FunPub that they explained how the fugures come about, and Hasbro having to ya or ney the designs based on what they plan to sell.
Though, by then, we may have a better/different mold for slippy, and the goodnews is that she isn't a PRID
Posted by noctorro on August 30th, 2012 @ 2:02pm CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote:NOT Fembot mould, period.
Because of this crap, we probably won't ever get an official slipstream any better than this. Hopefully a 3rd party company pulls it off.
Hasbro/Takara should have a fembot toyline where its just a bunch of female robots who still transform. Not only might it help with the female market, but it would round out our collections
Wow, that's a great idea!
WFC Arcee is a must by the way. I hope that she will be in FOC as DLC soon. Or else I'll die a little inside.
There needs to be a percentage of fembots, only for the more sleek designs and female voices in the series
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 30th, 2012 @ 2:37pm CDT
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 30th, 2012 @ 2:52pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I really don't understand you guys... First Prime Starscream looked feminine because he was slender and had "high heels", yet Slipstream is not feminine enough?
There is a lot of generalizing here. "You guys" might be innacurate since I never called Starscream too feminine. Feminine, sure, but not something I had a problenm with. The same people who have a problem with Slipstream's lack of femininity might not be the same people who complained about Starscreams'. Since I decided to comment again, I'm not complaining about Slipstream just because I think all fembots should be typical girly looking bodies. I'm fine with Strika, Airrazor, and even Override. The first time I saw slipstream was in WFC and she was curvy. She seemed to have first appeared in animated, where she was still fairly girly in her looks. I'm just saying, do the curvy sexy fembot justice. That's all. (If it helps, maybe comparing this to wanting a classics Tracks that actually turns into a corvette-looking vehicle). Anyway, beating a dead horse, so whatever. I'll just hope for a day when we get a better version that isn't just a repaint.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2012 @ 6:19pm CDT
Technically he's Wing Universe G2 Sky-Byte.Rated X wrote:I think Funpub is known for repainting molds from other continuities into classics figures.
Examples:
R.I.D. Skybyte from Energon Sharkticon
Posted by Savage on August 30th, 2012 @ 8:11pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I really don't understand you guys... First Prime Starscream looked feminine because he was slender and had "high heels", yet Slipstream is not feminine enough?
This was my thought exactly upon reading this thread. Granted, the people complaining now that Slipstream is not feminine enough may not be the same people who, a few months back, were belittling the Starscream design for being feminine, but it certainly goes to show the very fickle nature of our beloved fandom. No wonder Hasbro and Funpub have such a difficult time pleasing us.
Hasbro: Here's Starscream!
Fandom: Too feminine!
FunPub: Remember that mold y'all thought was too feminine? Here it is as a fembot!
Fandom: Too manly!
For a very very very very brief miniscule moment, I felt a twinge of sympathy for HasTak and FunPub...
Nevermind, it's gone
Personally, I really liked the idea of this mold as Slipstream from the moment it was revealed at Botcon. It's actually the Subscription Figure about which I'm most excited. Granted, it's not perfect, but no mold is, especially when we're dealing with repaints of mass-release molds. And given FunPub's history, it could have been FAR worse. Besides, can anyone name an existing mold that would have been a better Slipstream? For FunPub, it's a matter of doing what they can with what they've got.